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Wataalamu wanasema realbetis manager ndio potential replacement ya Valverde, walitupiga 4-3 kwao
Ila alichotufanyia Velverde second leg pale Anfield sitasahau
It was very boring football despite the fact that apart from Messi tulikosa key players wakumaliza mchezo that's why wanatu brand tuna over dependency kwa Messi
Mkuu upo right kikubwa ata akija mchezaji gani mwalimu ameprove kiwango cha kufundisha barca....kama mwalimu mbovu ni ngumu kupata best of coutinho au dembele....griezman sio type ya barca kikubwa kupata mwalimu then utaona mabadiliko kwa wachezaji hao....pale kuna msimamizi wa mazoezi tu
 
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Quique Setien: The manager who battered Barcelona and whose Real Betis team you can't miss
A combination of Pep Guardiola's purist philosophy and Maurizio Sarri's journey, having come through the lower leagues, Setien is the man behind some of Spain's most exciting football, writes Miguel Delaney


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Thursday 15 November 2018 07:38

Quique Setien's Real Betis smashed Barcelona 4-3 at Camp Nou

Quique Setien speaks with the vigour of a true believer, as he declares a commonly-made argument “absolutely false”. It’s put to the Real Betis manager that there is a regularly repeated view - particularly around the Premier League - that it’s an inherent risk to try and play expansive football with lesser-resourced clubs. That Pep Guardiola would struggle to impose his style on squads that didn’t have some of the most talented players on the planet.

“That’s not true,” Setien argues. “That is a falsity. Nobody can say you can’t play a particular way.”


Setien and his team are the profoundly entertaining proof of that. Betis so thrillingly beat Barcelona 4-3 last weekend in a landmark away win that has only furthered the talk the 60-year-old will next be at Camp Nou as home manager, and only further proved something else that is now rather commonly said in Spain: that you “should always, always watch Betis”; that there’ll always be an exhibition; that they might just be the best team to watch in Europe right now. That they're unmissable.

It is something a Spanish employee of a Bournemouth hotel actually said in passing to Setien as the Betis boss sat down for this interview back in August, and it's something that prides him more than anything. It is what he is in the job for.


“People have said it even on days we lost, meaning it stays with them. And, wow, that’s the satisfaction of the job.”

That is also quite a leap for a club that had for most of the last two decades been seen internationally as no more than Seville’s middling second club, only really remembered for the extreme waste of the 1997 world-record signing of Denilson.


No more, and that is testament to the progressive work and vision of Setien, as well the impressive structural transformation of a club that made the 60-year-old such an obvious choice as manager.

Maurizio Sarri narrowly avoided his first league defeat as Chelsea boss
Maurizio Sarri's journey from the lower leagues mirrors Setien's rise

There are some clear parallels with Chelsea’s Maurizio Sarri, given Setien’s Guardiola-aligned purist philosophy and impressive success relatively late in his career, having spent so many years in his country's lower leagues. The latter and the purism are inherently connected, as Setien saw himself as a coach in the truest sense of the word, actually improving players and only ever looking to work that way. It is why he stayed at Lugo for six years, taking them up to the second division, and thereby eviscerating that same argument about Guardiola.

Because, say what you like about him being the next Barca manager or the next Sarri, Setien is very much his own man.

“When I arrived at Lugo, the whole world told me you can’t play that football in Segunda B. I said we could, and was there six years. We got promoted, playing the football Betis play now. I have a motto, that I will never change my way of seeing things… sometimes, how I feel about football, it doesn’t matter if a team wins or loses. What attracts me to a match is whether the teams play well, that there are footballers, that it goes beyond the result.

“I’m a romantic, I like the football.

"I’m a spectator, and I don’t buy a ticket to watch a team stay stuck in their half waiting for a 0-0 or a counter-attack.”


He says he “didn’t have much interest in looking at France on television” at the World Cup, and preferred the self-enhancing teamwork of Japan - featuring Betis’ own terrific Takashi Inui.

“When I played, I was like that. I wanted the ball, to pass it, to get it to feet. It was something I always said when I played in teams that were dedicated to long balls and second balls.

ugo nze, [5/15/19 8:45 AM]
“If you play badly and lose, you’re left with nothing. If you lose but play well, you still have something. You have something to build on.”


The key question, though, is how you actually put it in place. Thinking that way and talking about it, after all, represent one side. Properly applying it so it is successful enough to appeal to people is something else.

It is one of the game’s great challenges, and why it has led to this great debate.

Setien sympathises with Lionel Messi - who he says is one of the purest players ever to live - after the match


Setien’s compelling answer however shows there is a practicality to his purism. A former central midfielder from Santander who was selected for Spain’s 1986 World Cup squad, he is engaging company who can so immerse himself in ideas that he ends up going on tangents on how Leo Messi is one of the purest players who ever lived, before humorously talking about playing chess against Garry Kasparov and then setting up chances that the grandmaster missed in an exhibition match.

Setien is always fascinating, though, and one of those figures who can change your thinking on football.

Las Palmas was where Setien caught Betis' eye.

“Style is not the problem. It’s about doing things well. Because what happens when you defend for 90 minutes and still lose? It seems, with that, you never have to justify anything. Every style can lose. What you have to do is make sure your players understand your idea, and execute it well.”

So how? How do you do this? How do you achieve what Setien has at Lugo, Las Palmas and now Betis?

He actually starts any job with a question, and a statement, the first to his bosses and the second to his squad.


“Before I signed for Betis, I asked them ‘why do you want me? You’ve seen how my teams played, how I play. Are you clear this is what you want? Are you convinced this is what your president, your sporting director, the officials want? You agree with this or not, because be clear that I’m not going to change. If not, you’d better get another manager.’ This is what I understand, this is how I play. My teams are going to come out from the back, involve the goalkeeper, and create.

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“Whatever happens happens, but first you have to know that.

“It’s like if tomorrow you appoint [Jose] Mourinho. You know how he’s going to play, you can’t now pretend he’s going to take the ball out from the back… too many clubs change the manager and style too easily, and it’s impossible to create anything for the future. That’s what happened at Betis, Valencia, so many times. Every time a new manager comes in, new players come in. It’s a tremendous economic waste, and when you impose something you have to give space and time.

“When I arrive at a club, I always look at it like I’m going to stay all my life. I couldn’t work like I do otherwise.”


It’s certainly persuasive, but the crucial next step is then persuading the players. That involves a proclamation rather than a question because it’s about firing that belief.

“First of all, I tell them they’re going to enjoy themselves much, much more. I’ve said it many times. When you went out to play football as a kid, no matter how good or bad you were, what you loved was having the ball, touching the ball.

“That’s the key.

“And when you tell the players your ideas mean they will have the ball for 70 minutes of the 90, their faces change; their outlook changes. Above all the players that have a certain technical quality, as they immediately connect to this idea and start offering more of themselves. If you emphasise this, everything is easier.


“I always say to my players that to win should be the consequence of doing things well. OK, one or two days you’ll lose but what’s very important is that the players understand what you’re trying. They have to understand that what we’re doing is going to give the team much more than it’s going to take away from the team.


(Setien is rumoured as a potential replacement for Valverde at the Camp Nou
 
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asante sana Barca asante sana Messi. Kidogo nimepunguza machungu ya kupigwa na Liverpool, sasa tuwepe awa vijana wa Klopp tuwafundishe mpira.

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Vipi, Nani Alifundishwa Mpira Barça Au Liverpool? Yaani Haya Mambo Ya Kukurupuka Na Mipovu, Mtapata Taabu Sana! #Liverpool, #YNWA, Means Much More!

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Liverpool have a solid defence??? Thanks for the info- i must have watched a different Liverpool.Anyway to gloat is your way cometh the day Barca make a mincemeat of you
Actually, They Did It In The First Leg, But Were Eventually Thrown Out Of The Competition!
 
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Ningekuwa na acces ya kuwashauri ma technical director wa Barca ningewashauri hivi

1. Delight
2.Greizman ache acheze namba ya Suarez maana suarez anacheza kama juma mahadhi au tambwe tu.
3. Donny van de beek achukue nafasi ya rackitic
 
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Kama Rais bado anamng'ang'ania yule kiazi wake msimamizi wa mazoezi hakuna maajabu ya champion league msimu ujao.... Perez atabaki rais mwenye maamuzi magumu
 
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De Light ameonekana kwenye airport ya Barcelona Jana
Stay tuned
Griezman wanasheria wake watakutana na board ya Barcelona ku finalise deal leo
 
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Haka Kagenge Walizani Kumnunua Dembele na Coutinho ndiyo wamenunua Makombe.

Coutinho Flope, Dembele prone injury, Suarez Finished, Messi Jogoo la Shamba haliwiki Anfield, Busquet Kazeeka, Pique kazeeka, Alba uchochoro, Rakitiki Kazeeka, Vidal brainless, Umtiti Finished ....
Sasa munategemea nini?
Jiandaeni kurudi mulipotoka kabla ya 2006.
Nyamaza kenge wewe , Barca chama kubwa
 
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Kama kocha ndio huyu valverde nasema naipenda barca sitaki kujiumiza kabisa kujipa presha nitakuwa natazama mpira kama natazama underdogs leo kama liver kapata suruhu pumbavu kabisa yule
 

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