Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

Ona sasa unaandika fikra zako finyu..., project kujilipa na Kenya kuilipia ni vitu viwili tofauti.., project inaweza kukosa kujilipa kibiashara lakini mwenye project ako na uwezo wa kuilipia ata kama itabakia kua white elephant coz of meagre returns than expected, mbona wewe kilaza siku zote,? yaani sio mwepesi wa kuelewa mambo ama unajitia hamnazo[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
Sasa lengo la Feasibility study of the project ni lip, huna akili unanipotezea muda wangu, nimekuuliza unajua maana na umuhimu wa Feasibility study of the project?,
 
Kikwete kaona Kenya wame launch SGR to Uganda..., alafu CoW pia was the thorn, yeye akakimbia ku plan ya Tanzania, a reactive government, a recipe' for failure.
Plan ya sgr ipo tangu enzi za mkapa ilikosa fund tu kuanza . Acha dharau za kikenya
 
data please? a one off thing is not daily, unatamani iwe ukweli lakini wapi, licha ya hayo which is mostly caused by logistical issue, tumewazidi ukubali ukatae, u are below Kenya wacha kujiliwaza na issue inayotokea once in awhile na ina last at most for a month then disappears, watu wanasonga mbele na maishja yao kwa starehe zao, ila nyie ni fundamentaly poor licha ya rasilmali zote mlizo nazo, jiangalie ba mzee, mnahurumisha, tukome[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]...,



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Wakati report ya KNBS itatoka mwisho wa huu mwezi kwamba uchumi wa Kenya umekuwa kwa zaidi ya 7% mwaka wa 2021 sijui hawa malazy wanaoichukia Kenya watajificha wapi? 🤡💩
 
Mkuu, kwa maoni yako hizi safari za mama nje ya nchi zimekaaje?
Mi naziona ziko vizuri haswa ukizingatia priority yake ni kurudisha mahusiano yaliyokuwa yamedorora kipindi cha Mtangulizi wake! Kumbuka tuna mega projects ambazo uendelevu wake utategemea viwanda na biashara.

Ila asije akabadilishwa msimamo wa tanzania juu ya vita vya Ukraine! Najua anaenda kubanwa!




 
Weka Data ya Kenya ports authority hapa ku support hizi fikra zako tuone, unapenda propaganda na kuikweza Tanzania ninayo ijua zaidi ya wewe[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]..., last I checked we manufacture more cooking oil than any country in EAC na pia tunaagiza kwa wingi due to the highest consumption in the region., nyie ni wengi lakini mna consumption rate ya 570,000 tonnes Kenya consumes almosdt same ama slightly higher na mko zaidi yetu na karibia watu millioni kumi!, nyie ni watu wa mihogo na maharage kweli[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]., alafu unadanganya eti kwa Tanzania 70% of edible oil is sourced locally, tangu lini?[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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Mnapenda cooked data wakati the truth is hamna mafuta . Chakula mzozo , na maziwa as well . Nimeona hadi rais Kenyatta kumruhusu raisi wa ukraine a.k.a the comedy asihutubie bunge la kenya. Anaogopa kugombana na urusi
 
Hii ni ya wale wajinga wote kwenye huu uzi wanaosema kwamba magari za Kenya ni nzee. Kenya huwezi kuimport gari nzee kushinda 8 years kutokea tarehe iliyoundwa. Uganda nao wametufuata sasa.
Wajinga nyinyi kumbe hata Tanzania lazyland haina age limit restriction kwenye imported cars. Kenya pekee ndio ina age restriction. Sasa Uganda ndio imekuwa nchi ya pili EA kwenye age restriction.
Wajinga wamejaa kwenye huu uzi siku hizi.

Uganda import rule boosts Kenya car dealers​

Tuesday, April 12, 2022
cars

Imported vehicles at a yard in Mombasa. Kenya is also the only East African country with strict age limits on car imports, making vehicles in the country expensive and lucrative for the black market trade of selling cars meant for export locally.

Photo credit: File | Nation Media Group

By Otiayo Guguyu
Nation Media Group
Uganda has tightened import conditions for vehicles aged over nine years, a move that is expected to disrupt the automobile black market in Kenya.

It will, however, translate to improved fortunes for local dealerships long inconvenienced by smuggled units from the neighbouring country.
In a new directive by the Uganda Revenue Authority (URA), imports of vehicles older than nine years will from July 1, 2022, be cleared under the East Africa Community’s Single Customs Territory (SCT), which allows members of the bloc to jointly collect customs taxes.

RELATED​

“Pursuant to section 64 (k) of the East African Customs Management Regulations 2010, the Uganda Revenue Authority wishes to inform the general public that effective July 1,2022 motor vehicles of nine years old or more from the date of manufacture shall no longer be cleared under the warehousing regime,” URA said in a notice seen by Smart Business.
“The customs clearance of such motor vehicles shall be facilitated under the Single Customs Territory arrangement where taxes will be paid upon arrival at the port of entry into the East African Community,” the Ugandan taxman added.

Uganda market​

Currently, importers of vehicles destined for the Uganda market are allowed to store their units in holding units approved by tax authorities—commonly referred to as bonded warehouses-- pending payment of customs duties.
This has been popular with many Ugandan importers because it eases liquidity pressure on them and encourages them to import more units some of which are later dumped in the more lucrative Kenyan market by crafty dealers.
Most of the used cars sourced from Uganda, though cheaper, are much older than those in the Kenyan used vehicles market because Kampala had not put an age limit on imported second-hand automobiles.

This implies that one can ship in a much older car through Uganda, declare low custom value and pay much lower taxes compared to direct importation into Kenya where the maximum age limit on used cars has been set at eight years—meaning that the car market in Kenya has newer and pricier vehicles.
Under the SCT system, however, conditions will be tougher for Ugandan importers. In this regional scheme, importers in each of the EAC partner States are required to lodge import declaration forms in their respective home countries and pay relevant taxes upfront to facilitate the export process.

Cross-border movement​

Respective revenue agencies would then issue a road manifest against the import documents submitted electronically by tax officials of the importing country to allow cross-border movement.
This is expected to have an impact on the cash flow of many auto dealers in Uganda, and discourage them from importing large numbers of the cheaper, older, and low-quality vehicles which are popular with buyers in the black market, especially in western Kenya.
In Kenya, only new vehicles are kept in bonded warehouses while second-hand vehicles have to pay duty within 21 days or start attracting extra charges.
Kenya Auto Bazaar (Kaba) secretary-general Charles Munyori, however, said Uganda’s move may not fully impact the black market trade unless the region adopts the same standards.
“It will only work if Uganda and Kenya make explicit limitations and the time limit is at par, otherwise Uganda still allows older vehicles just that you pay more,” he said.

Kenya is also the only East African country with strict age limits on car imports making vehicles in the country expensive and lucrative for the black market trade of selling cars meant for export locally.
EAC member-states have failed to enforce proposals to lower the age limit for imported used cars to five years by 2021.
Uganda’s move is a measure to bring the country’s car age limit closer to the EAC resolution that had recommended the slashing of the age limit for imported cars to five years by 2021.
It was only in 2018 that Uganda passed a law limiting the importation of vehicles manufactured more than 15 years ago.

Eight years​

Kenya has been pushing regional countries towards adopting the EAC recommendation and has already announced plans to limit the age of used vehicles with engine capacity above 1500cc imported to five instead of the current eight years.
Tanzania allows imports of cars as old as 10 years while Burundi, Rwanda, and South Sudan, on the other hand, have no formal age limits for used cars. The different set of age limits within the region has fuelled tax and regulatory arbitrage to ship in cheaper and older cars.
Many Kenyans are reportedly involved in a tax and regulatory arbitrage to ship in cheaper and older cars.
Recent raises in car import duties have made the Kenyan black market attractive for dealers in the region.
Car traders in Kenya are currently caught in a legal fight with the Kenya Revenue Authority (KRA) which had in July 2020, published a new Current Retail Selling Price (CRSP) -- a database of prices of new vehicles in the country that forms the basis of taxing second-hand units after taking into account depreciation.

Car Importers Association of Kenya, which represents 80 dealers of used vehicles, moved to court and got orders suspending implementation of the new catalogue.
The dealers argue that the new CRSP is inflated and has the potential to increase the final prices of some car models by hundreds of thousands of shillings.
The Court of Appeal this month extended a freeze on KRA's move to raise taxes on used motor vehicle imports by adjusting the base on which various levies are computed.
The suit over the higher taxes comes as used car prices in Kenya have jumped by an average of 37 percent over the past six months as demand outstrips supply globally on production cuts.
This has pushed the cost of low-end vehicles such as Nissan Note and Toyota Vitz above the Sh1 million mark.
The prices of used vehicles are dependent on many factors, including dealer margins, the age of the car, and a series of cumulative taxes.
The tax value is calculated based on the CRSP -- which should match showroom prices -- for that specific model, adjusted for depreciation at a rate of 10 percent per year. Insurance and freight charges are added to the adjusted CRSP to arrive at the customs value.
The vehicle then attracts an import duty of 25 percent, excise duty (ranging from 25 percent to 35 percent), and value-added tax of 16 percent, payable cumulatively and in that order.
A higher CRSP quote has the effect of inflating taxes and the ultimate yard prices of second-hand cars. The association obtained showroom prices independently and compared them with the KRA's list to build its case, the court was told
I remember back in 2019 the government wanted to change age limit from 8 years to 5 years and it got q lot of backlash from matatu operators, car importers,the general public and KEBS had to shelve that plan..
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I remember back in 2019 the government wanted to change age limit from 8 years to 5 years and it got q lot of backlash from matatu operators, car importers,the general public and KEBS had to shelve that plan..
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Imagine hawa wapuuzi hawana age limit kwenye gari zao na wanatudhalilisha. Hawajui hata sheria za nchi yao. Huko Tanzania hata gari ya 10 years after date of manufacture bado inaruhusiwa kuingia. Uganda sasa ndio naona angalau wameanza kujaribu kurestrict age ya magari yanayoagizwa. Nimeshangaa kusoma kwamba Kenya pekee EA ndio inarestrict age ya magari yanayoagizwa.
 
inflation rate ni ufukara kweli kilaza? ni hali ya uchumi which is temporary, having a low or a higher inflation does not necessarily translate to ufukara..., jua mko hovyo zaidi usijidanganye kilaza🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂..,
Sasa inflation kwa nchi iliojaza mafukara kama kunyaland kwanini isiwe zaidi ya disaster? Hamjitoshelezi kwa chochote kila kitu mnaimport halafu inflation iwe normal? Huna akili ya kujiuliza kwanini Tanzania na Uganda inflation ni ndogo?
 
Imagine hawa wapuuzi hawana age limit kwenye gari zao na wanatudhalilisha. Hawajui hata sheria za nchi yao. Huko Tanzania hata gari ya 10 years after date of manufacture bado inaruhusiwa kuingia. Uganda sasa ndio naona angalau wameanza kujaribu kurestrict age ya magari yanayoagizwa. Nimeshangaa kusoma kwamba Kenya pekee EA ndio inarestrict age ya magari yanayoagizwa.
Alafu wanasema Kenya iko na gari nzee...kitambo nilifikiria hizo magari within Kenya ambazo ziko na foreign plate numbers za TZ,SSD na UG ni ya foreigners until in 2015 when I realized actually ni ya wakenya ambao wanazinunua huko walete huku especially because of hizo age restrictions na maybe import duty per se
 
Hatuongei tu kuhusu hub. Hub ni broad term linaweza pia kuwa na maana ya medical hub au tourism hub. Tunaongea kuhusu logistics hub. Logistics maana yake hii hapa. Maana naona neno logistics linakutatiza sana.

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Sasa unalazimisha kwamba ninyi ni logistics hub wakati sio? Mnakuaje logistics hub wanakati ni Uganda tu mnaihudumia?
 
Nani ameongelea formal employment.., who owns land in Turkana county? Pokot, North Eastern? uliona wazungu ama wanasiasa?.., another propaganda, uko very clueless, una guess tu., Civic education has been done, these groups uphold culture more than reason., nikama tu watu wa dini vile (religion is a scam), reason is thrown out the window, minimal logic and critical thinking.., almost all tribes bordering each other along Ethiopia, Kenya and Uganda borders have the same characteristics.., Kumiliki silaha is part of their culture, they are initiated to be warriors and cattle rustling is their conquest.., Kenya ni nchi huru, hauwezi lazimisha watu.., na pia viongozi wao are engraved in the same culture na wanachochea sana, some are financing such.., so they don't move with the trends., wanabakia nyuma, ni kama nyie mlivyo washamba kwa wingi, old school thinking, u are left out of the prevailing trends economically., alafu ni ardhi inalisha raiya wenu kama tu wanyama pori., usijipige kifua, mko hovyo.., and it is a mindset mzee., ndio maana nyie ni miongoni za taifa fukara duniani licha ya rasilmali.., so peleka huo ujuaji uchwara mbali, jiangalie kisha mjichunguze, sio laana, ni ujinga na kutokujua, get information to transform your life.
In Uganda Museveni pacifiedKaramoja using Military, yule atambui human rights nyef nyef, and he confiscated most guns, kwetu ukianza hivyo vita, siasa inaingia kati, human rights activists wanajitokeza kupinga utumiaji wa nguvu, courts can halt the operation, I believe force must be employed kwa vile most of those groups don't engage reason.
Kwaiyo unamanisha serikali yenu inachia tuu watu wamiliki silaha kiolela? Au ww ndio mpuzi unae jitetea kma mwehu? Wacha kuongea upuzi kwaiyo hao watu wa human right wasababishe kuatarisha maisha ya watu kwa kutetea upuzi?
 
20 whether u like it or not..,ukinunua gari kwa mkopo, gari ni yako, itamilikiwa na benki wakati unashindwa kulipa, ama vipi? kalilie kwa choo[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
Kuna vitu wala hupaswi kujitoa ufaham kisa ya kudebate, unafananishaj mfumo wa ukopaji wa ndege na gari?
 
Hii ni ya wale wajinga wote kwenye huu uzi wanaosema kwamba magari za Kenya ni nzee. Kenya huwezi kuimport gari nzee kushinda 8 years kutokea tarehe iliyoundwa. Uganda nao wametufuata sasa.
Wajinga nyinyi kumbe hata Tanzania lazyland haina age limit restriction kwenye imported cars. Kenya pekee ndio ina age restriction. Sasa Uganda ndio imekuwa nchi ya pili EA kwenye age restriction.
Wajinga wamejaa kwenye huu uzi siku hizi.

Uganda import rule boosts Kenya car dealers​

Tuesday, April 12, 2022
cars

Imported vehicles at a yard in Mombasa. Kenya is also the only East African country with strict age limits on car imports, making vehicles in the country expensive and lucrative for the black market trade of selling cars meant for export locally.

Photo credit: File | Nation Media Group

By Otiayo Guguyu
Nation Media Group
Uganda has tightened import conditions for vehicles aged over nine years, a move that is expected to disrupt the automobile black market in Kenya.

It will, however, translate to improved fortunes for local dealerships long inconvenienced by smuggled units from the neighbouring country.
In a new directive by the Uganda Revenue Authority (URA), imports of vehicles older than nine years will from July 1, 2022, be cleared under the East Africa Community’s Single Customs Territory (SCT), which allows members of the bloc to jointly collect customs taxes.

RELATED​

“Pursuant to section 64 (k) of the East African Customs Management Regulations 2010, the Uganda Revenue Authority wishes to inform the general public that effective July 1,2022 motor vehicles of nine years old or more from the date of manufacture shall no longer be cleared under the warehousing regime,” URA said in a notice seen by Smart Business.
“The customs clearance of such motor vehicles shall be facilitated under the Single Customs Territory arrangement where taxes will be paid upon arrival at the port of entry into the East African Community,” the Ugandan taxman added.

Uganda market​

Currently, importers of vehicles destined for the Uganda market are allowed to store their units in holding units approved by tax authorities—commonly referred to as bonded warehouses-- pending payment of customs duties.
This has been popular with many Ugandan importers because it eases liquidity pressure on them and encourages them to import more units some of which are later dumped in the more lucrative Kenyan market by crafty dealers.
Most of the used cars sourced from Uganda, though cheaper, are much older than those in the Kenyan used vehicles market because Kampala had not put an age limit on imported second-hand automobiles.

This implies that one can ship in a much older car through Uganda, declare low custom value and pay much lower taxes compared to direct importation into Kenya where the maximum age limit on used cars has been set at eight years—meaning that the car market in Kenya has newer and pricier vehicles.
Under the SCT system, however, conditions will be tougher for Ugandan importers. In this regional scheme, importers in each of the EAC partner States are required to lodge import declaration forms in their respective home countries and pay relevant taxes upfront to facilitate the export process.

Cross-border movement​

Respective revenue agencies would then issue a road manifest against the import documents submitted electronically by tax officials of the importing country to allow cross-border movement.
This is expected to have an impact on the cash flow of many auto dealers in Uganda, and discourage them from importing large numbers of the cheaper, older, and low-quality vehicles which are popular with buyers in the black market, especially in western Kenya.
In Kenya, only new vehicles are kept in bonded warehouses while second-hand vehicles have to pay duty within 21 days or start attracting extra charges.
Kenya Auto Bazaar (Kaba) secretary-general Charles Munyori, however, said Uganda’s move may not fully impact the black market trade unless the region adopts the same standards.
“It will only work if Uganda and Kenya make explicit limitations and the time limit is at par, otherwise Uganda still allows older vehicles just that you pay more,” he said.

Kenya is also the only East African country with strict age limits on car imports making vehicles in the country expensive and lucrative for the black market trade of selling cars meant for export locally.
EAC member-states have failed to enforce proposals to lower the age limit for imported used cars to five years by 2021.
Uganda’s move is a measure to bring the country’s car age limit closer to the EAC resolution that had recommended the slashing of the age limit for imported cars to five years by 2021.
It was only in 2018 that Uganda passed a law limiting the importation of vehicles manufactured more than 15 years ago.

Eight years​

Kenya has been pushing regional countries towards adopting the EAC recommendation and has already announced plans to limit the age of used vehicles with engine capacity above 1500cc imported to five instead of the current eight years.
Tanzania allows imports of cars as old as 10 years while Burundi, Rwanda, and South Sudan, on the other hand, have no formal age limits for used cars. The different set of age limits within the region has fuelled tax and regulatory arbitrage to ship in cheaper and older cars.
Many Kenyans are reportedly involved in a tax and regulatory arbitrage to ship in cheaper and older cars.
Recent raises in car import duties have made the Kenyan black market attractive for dealers in the region.
Car traders in Kenya are currently caught in a legal fight with the Kenya Revenue Authority (KRA) which had in July 2020, published a new Current Retail Selling Price (CRSP) -- a database of prices of new vehicles in the country that forms the basis of taxing second-hand units after taking into account depreciation.

Car Importers Association of Kenya, which represents 80 dealers of used vehicles, moved to court and got orders suspending implementation of the new catalogue.
The dealers argue that the new CRSP is inflated and has the potential to increase the final prices of some car models by hundreds of thousands of shillings.
The Court of Appeal this month extended a freeze on KRA's move to raise taxes on used motor vehicle imports by adjusting the base on which various levies are computed.
The suit over the higher taxes comes as used car prices in Kenya have jumped by an average of 37 percent over the past six months as demand outstrips supply globally on production cuts.
This has pushed the cost of low-end vehicles such as Nissan Note and Toyota Vitz above the Sh1 million mark.
The prices of used vehicles are dependent on many factors, including dealer margins, the age of the car, and a series of cumulative taxes.
The tax value is calculated based on the CRSP -- which should match showroom prices -- for that specific model, adjusted for depreciation at a rate of 10 percent per year. Insurance and freight charges are added to the adjusted CRSP to arrive at the customs value.
The vehicle then attracts an import duty of 25 percent, excise duty (ranging from 25 percent to 35 percent), and value-added tax of 16 percent, payable cumulatively and in that order.
A higher CRSP quote has the effect of inflating taxes and the ultimate yard prices of second-hand cars. The association obtained showroom prices independently and compared them with the KRA's list to build its case, the court was told
Wacha kuropoka kma umelew , uliza kwanza Tz gari ya under 2010 wametangaza kuzuiw kuingia nchini
 
Sasa unalazimisha kwamba ninyi ni logistics hub wakati sio? Mnakuaje logistics hub wanakati ni Uganda tu mnaihudumia?
Wacha bangi. Ni data gani umetumia kusema kwamba tunahudumia UG pekee? Umewahi kusoma report ya KPA?
 
Watu wapumbavu wamejaa kwenye huu uzi siku hizi. Yaani watu wamewacha kudebate kutumia facts wanatumia ujinga kudebate. Sasa hii nchi ya Tanzania ambayo bado inaruhusu magari zaidi ya 10 years baada ya year of manufacture ndio tunaambiwa kwamba ina gari mpya nyingi? Kenya ndio nchi pekee EA ambayo imeweka age restriction on imported cars. Uzi huu umeharibiwa na vichaa.

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Uganda’s move is a measure to bring the country’s car age limit closer to the EAC resolution that had recommended the slashing of the age limit for imported cars to five years by 2021.
It was only in 2018 that Uganda passed a law limiting the importation of vehicles manufactured more than 15 years ago.

Eight years​

Kenya has been pushing regional countries towards adopting the EAC recommendation and has already announced plans to limit the age of used vehicles with engine capacity above 1500cc imported to five instead of the current eight years.
Tanzania allows imports of cars as old as 10 years while Burundi, Rwanda, and South Sudan, on the other hand, have no formal age limits for used cars. The different set of age limits within the region has fuelled tax and regulatory arbitrage to ship in cheaper and older cars.
Wacha kubwabwaja...uliza
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