Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

[The Sunk Cost Fallacy]

Huyu ndo anafaa kuwa rais...hata haiba yake inavutia
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Peleka upumbavu wako huko,tunaangalia matokeo chanya au haiba?

Endelea kusubiria haiba 👇

 

[The Sunk Cost Fallacy]

Hii sasa iwe kweli maana kamba zimesidi 👇

 

[chongchung]

Punguza bangi. Kenya ndio EA logistics hub. Kila mtu analifahamu hilo.

Mnahudumia Malawi? Zambia? Zimbabwe? Mozambique?

Dar inahudumia mpaka Botswana

 

[coodip1]

Naona wanafanya hadi hoarding ya milk

 

[chongchung]

By the way kama unalosema ni kweli basi ni wazi kwamba uchumi wenu mdogo sana. Yaani tayari bandari zenu zinahandle 50% ya mizigo ambayo Mombasa port inahandle. Halafu mbaya zaidi only 45% ndio mizigo yenu? Halafu mnabisha kwamba Kenya ina gdp kubwa kuwashinda? Wakati 35 million tonnes zinapitia Mombasa port kila mwaka, 17 million tonnes ndio zinapitia Dar Slum port pekee. Ni obvious uchumi gani mkubwa kati ya KE na TZ.

Mnachoingiza kwa wingi pamoja na vyakula na misaada mingine

Kikubwa ni edible palm oil (mafuta ya kupikia) by 99%

Kwa Tanzania 70% ya edible oil is sourced locally

Tatizo lenu akili ya kuanalyze mzigo wenu hamna ninyi ili mradi tu number iwe kubwa

 

[coodip1]

SGR ilikua ianzishwe na EAC kwa pamoja na iliplaniwa mkakati ulikuwepo wa nchi za EAC kishirikiana lakini baada ya mzozo wa Tanzania and Rwanda Kenya kama kawaida akataka kuchochoa mgogoro kiaina akaanza za chini chini kulazimisha SGR ianze kujengwa Kenya akawashawishi Rwanda na Uganda wakakubali iTZ ikaachana na ule mpango ikianzishwa CoW.TZ China ya JK ikaamua kuanzisha SGR yake.Hivyo SGR ilikua idea ya pamoja ya EAC kabla kusambaratika kwa mpango kusambaratika.

Ngombe kafa no one is prepared to invest billions of dollars in a useless and outdated technology. Uganda has been cleverly delaying SGR Kenyan connection to assess the end products of both northern and central corridors as far as sgr is concerned but as of now I think jibu wanalo and it is their choice to choose between inefficient outdated sgr and efficient and modern sgr

 

[joto la jiwe]

Nani ameongelea formal employment.., who owns land in Turkana county? Pokot, North Eastern? uliona wazungu ama wanasiasa?.., another propaganda, uko very clueless, una guess tu., Civic education has been done, these groups uphold culture more than reason., nikama tu watu wa dini vile (religion is a scam), reason is thrown out the window, minimal logic and critical thinking.., almost all tribes bordering each other along Ethiopia, Kenya and Uganda borders have the same characteristics.., Kumiliki silaha is part of their culture, they are initiated to be warriors and cattle rustling is their conquest.., Kenya ni nchi huru, hauwezi lazimisha watu.., na pia viongozi wao are engraved in the same culture na wanachochea sana, some are financing such.., so they don't move with the trends., wanabakia nyuma, ni kama nyie mlivyo washamba kwa wingi, old school thinking, u are left out of the prevailing trends economically., alafu ni ardhi inalisha raiya wenu kama tu wanyama pori., usijipige kifua, mko hovyo.., and it is a mindset mzee., ndio maana nyie ni miongoni za taifa fukara duniani licha ya rasilmali.., so peleka huo ujuaji uchwara mbali, jiangalie kisha mjichunguze, sio laana, ni ujinga na kutokujua, get information to transform your life.
In Uganda Museveni pacifiedKaramoja using Military, yule atambui human rights nyef nyef, and he confiscated most guns, kwetu ukianza hivyo vita, siasa inaingia kati, human rights activists wanajitokeza kupinga utumiaji wa nguvu, courts can halt the operation, I believe force must be employed kwa vile most of those groups don't engage reason.

Katika watu wajinga humu JF wewe inawezekana ukawa nambari "one", kwahiyo nchi yenu inaruhusu watu kumiliki silaha haramu kiholel.

Samburu, Turkana na Pokot ni jangwa na ukame ndio unatawa, huko ndiko ambako waafrika walitupwa wakajifie, wakati ardhi nzuri maeneo ya bonde la ufa na mlima Kenya na pwani, familia za Kenyatta, politicians na wazungu wanashikilia ardhi kubwa sana

 

[coodip1]

Malizeni kilomita mia mbili kwanza (200km) Ni miaka mingapi tangu ujenzi uanze? ni ndoto mnazo., watch after election how things will pan out as far as SGR is concerned..,

Wakati unasubiria election sisi huku tunasaini mikataba Congo Rwanda na Burundi na hela ya ujenzi imeshapatikana AfDB sasa sijui sgr yenu mtaipeleka wapi maana lazima uganda atumie dar port through lake Victoria and a new route from Keza upande ule utakuwa na mizigo mingi cause of oil and gas activities. Tanzania can import refined petroleum ftom Uganda through sgr.

 

[chongchung]

Mnachoingiza kwa wingi pamoja na vyakula na misaada mingine

Kikubwa ni edible palm oil (mafuta ya kupikia) by 99%

Kwa Tanzania 70% ya edible oil is sourced locally

Tatizo lenu akili ya kuanalyze mzigo wenu hamna ninyi ili mradi tu number iwe kubwa

Tony254 Tanzania doesn't import rice

 

[Tony254]

Hii ni ya wale wajinga wote kwenye huu uzi wanaosema kwamba magari za Kenya ni nzee. Kenya huwezi kuimport gari nzee kushinda 8 years kutokea tarehe iliyoundwa. Uganda nao wametufuata sasa.
Wajinga nyinyi kumbe hata Tanzania lazyland haina age limit restriction kwenye imported cars. Kenya pekee ndio ina age restriction. Sasa Uganda ndio imekuwa nchi ya pili EA kwenye age restriction.
Wajinga wamejaa kwenye huu uzi siku hizi.

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Uganda import rule boosts Kenya car dealers​

Tuesday, April 12, 2022

Imported vehicles at a yard in Mombasa. Kenya is also the only East African country with strict age limits on car imports, making vehicles in the country expensive and lucrative for the black market trade of selling cars meant for export locally.

Photo credit: File | Nation Media Group

By Otiayo Guguyu
Nation Media Group
Uganda has tightened import conditions for vehicles aged over nine years, a move that is expected to disrupt the automobile black market in Kenya.

It will, however, translate to improved fortunes for local dealerships long inconvenienced by smuggled units from the neighbouring country.
In a new directive by the Uganda Revenue Authority (URA), imports of vehicles older than nine years will from July 1, 2022, be cleared under the East Africa Community’s Single Customs Territory (SCT), which allows members of the bloc to jointly collect customs taxes.

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“Pursuant to section 64 (k) of the East African Customs Management Regulations 2010, the Uganda Revenue Authority wishes to inform the general public that effective July 1,2022 motor vehicles of nine years old or more from the date of manufacture shall no longer be cleared under the warehousing regime,” URA said in a notice seen by Smart Business.
“The customs clearance of such motor vehicles shall be facilitated under the Single Customs Territory arrangement where taxes will be paid upon arrival at the port of entry into the East African Community,” the Ugandan taxman added.

Uganda market​

Currently, importers of vehicles destined for the Uganda market are allowed to store their units in holding units approved by tax authorities—commonly referred to as bonded warehouses-- pending payment of customs duties.
This has been popular with many Ugandan importers because it eases liquidity pressure on them and encourages them to import more units some of which are later dumped in the more lucrative Kenyan market by crafty dealers.
Most of the used cars sourced from Uganda, though cheaper, are much older than those in the Kenyan used vehicles market because Kampala had not put an age limit on imported second-hand automobiles.

This implies that one can ship in a much older car through Uganda, declare low custom value and pay much lower taxes compared to direct importation into Kenya where the maximum age limit on used cars has been set at eight years—meaning that the car market in Kenya has newer and pricier vehicles.
Under the SCT system, however, conditions will be tougher for Ugandan importers. In this regional scheme, importers in each of the EAC partner States are required to lodge import declaration forms in their respective home countries and pay relevant taxes upfront to facilitate the export process.

Cross-border movement​

Respective revenue agencies would then issue a road manifest against the import documents submitted electronically by tax officials of the importing country to allow cross-border movement.
This is expected to have an impact on the cash flow of many auto dealers in Uganda, and discourage them from importing large numbers of the cheaper, older, and low-quality vehicles which are popular with buyers in the black market, especially in western Kenya.
In Kenya, only new vehicles are kept in bonded warehouses while second-hand vehicles have to pay duty within 21 days or start attracting extra charges.
Kenya Auto Bazaar (Kaba) secretary-general Charles Munyori, however, said Uganda’s move may not fully impact the black market trade unless the region adopts the same standards.
“It will only work if Uganda and Kenya make explicit limitations and the time limit is at par, otherwise Uganda still allows older vehicles just that you pay more,” he said.

Kenya is also the only East African country with strict age limits on car imports making vehicles in the country expensive and lucrative for the black market trade of selling cars meant for export locally.
EAC member-states have failed to enforce proposals to lower the age limit for imported used cars to five years by 2021.
Uganda’s move is a measure to bring the country’s car age limit closer to the EAC resolution that had recommended the slashing of the age limit for imported cars to five years by 2021.
It was only in 2018 that Uganda passed a law limiting the importation of vehicles manufactured more than 15 years ago.

Eight years​

Kenya has been pushing regional countries towards adopting the EAC recommendation and has already announced plans to limit the age of used vehicles with engine capacity above 1500cc imported to five instead of the current eight years.
Tanzania allows imports of cars as old as 10 years while Burundi, Rwanda, and South Sudan, on the other hand, have no formal age limits for used cars. The different set of age limits within the region has fuelled tax and regulatory arbitrage to ship in cheaper and older cars.
Many Kenyans are reportedly involved in a tax and regulatory arbitrage to ship in cheaper and older cars.
Recent raises in car import duties have made the Kenyan black market attractive for dealers in the region.
Car traders in Kenya are currently caught in a legal fight with the Kenya Revenue Authority (KRA) which had in July 2020, published a new Current Retail Selling Price (CRSP) -- a database of prices of new vehicles in the country that forms the basis of taxing second-hand units after taking into account depreciation.

Car Importers Association of Kenya, which represents 80 dealers of used vehicles, moved to court and got orders suspending implementation of the new catalogue.
The dealers argue that the new CRSP is inflated and has the potential to increase the final prices of some car models by hundreds of thousands of shillings.
The Court of Appeal this month extended a freeze on KRA's move to raise taxes on used motor vehicle imports by adjusting the base on which various levies are computed.
The suit over the higher taxes comes as used car prices in Kenya have jumped by an average of 37 percent over the past six months as demand outstrips supply globally on production cuts.
This has pushed the cost of low-end vehicles such as Nissan Note and Toyota Vitz above the Sh1 million mark.
The prices of used vehicles are dependent on many factors, including dealer margins, the age of the car, and a series of cumulative taxes.
The tax value is calculated based on the CRSP -- which should match showroom prices -- for that specific model, adjusted for depreciation at a rate of 10 percent per year. Insurance and freight charges are added to the adjusted CRSP to arrive at the customs value.
The vehicle then attracts an import duty of 25 percent, excise duty (ranging from 25 percent to 35 percent), and value-added tax of 16 percent, payable cumulatively and in that order.
A higher CRSP quote has the effect of inflating taxes and the ultimate yard prices of second-hand cars. The association obtained showroom prices independently and compared them with the KRA's list to build its case, the court was told

Uganda import rule boosts Kenya car dealers

The nine-year stringent condition expected to disturb local black market, but improve fortunes for genuine dealers.

nation.africa

 

[coodip1]

Hio ni kesi tofauti. Rwanda tayari imo ndani ya EAC na nyie bado mnazozana nao. Tofauti na Somalia ambao bado hawajaingia na kamwe hawataingia.

Wasipoingia huo utakuwa ubaguzi hamna sababu ya kuizuia Somalia kuingia ikikidhi vigezo

 

[chongchung]

Mnachoingiza kwa wingi pamoja na vyakula na misaada mingine

Kikubwa ni edible palm oil (mafuta ya kupikia) by 99%

Kwa Tanzania 70% ya edible oil is sourced locally

Tatizo lenu akili ya kuanalyze mzigo wenu hamna ninyi ili mradi tu number iwe kubwa

Tony254 Tanzania doesn't import fossil fuels for electricity we use local natural gas

 

[Don YF]

Simple fact ni kwamba less than 50% ya mzigo wa Tanzania ports unabaki Tanzania huku zaidi ya 45% unaenda nchi zaidi ya 7 zinazotegemea bandari zetu

Kenya 90% ya mzigo wa Mombasa unabaki Kenya

Umetoa wapi hiyo data? source?..,even though umeandika opinion, inaonyesha uzito wa economy ya kenya, consumption iko juu😀😂😂😂

 

[coodip1]

By the way kama unalosema ni kweli basi ni wazi kwamba uchumi wenu mdogo sana. Yaani tayari bandari zenu zinahandle 50% ya mizigo ambayo Mombasa port inahandle. Halafu mbaya zaidi only 45% ndio mizigo yenu? Halafu mnabisha kwamba Kenya ina gdp kubwa kuwashinda? Wakati 35 million tonnes zinapitia Mombasa port kila mwaka, 17 million tonnes ndio zinapitia Dar Slum port pekee. Ni obvious uchumi gani mkubwa kati ya KE na TZ.

Mbona huwa unashindwa kuchanganua mambo? We consume what we produce and we import what we dont produce but nyie you import almost everything even food items that you could easily produce yourself. Halafu import bill kubwa ni ishara ya weak manufacturing sector.

 

[chongchung]

Umetoa wapi hiyo data? source?..,even though umeandika opinion, inaonyesha uzito wa economy ya kenya, consumption iko juu😀😂😂😂

Tony254 Tanzania doesn't import maize

 

[Tony254]

Hii ni ya wale wajinga wote kwenye huu uzi wanaosema kwamba magari za Kenya ni nzee. Kenya huwezi kuimport gari nzee kushinda 8 years kutokea tarehe iliyoundwa. Uganda nao wametufuata sasa.
Wajinga nyinyi kumbe hata Tanzania lazyland haina age limit restriction kwenye imported cars. Kenya pekee ndio ina age restriction. Sasa Uganda ndio imekuwa nchi ya pili EA kwenye age restriction.
Wajinga wamejaa kwenye huu uzi siku hizi.

​

Uganda import rule boosts Kenya car dealers​

Tuesday, April 12, 2022

Imported vehicles at a yard in Mombasa. Kenya is also the only East African country with strict age limits on car imports, making vehicles in the country expensive and lucrative for the black market trade of selling cars meant for export locally.

Photo credit: File | Nation Media Group

By Otiayo Guguyu
Nation Media Group
Uganda has tightened import conditions for vehicles aged over nine years, a move that is expected to disrupt the automobile black market in Kenya.

It will, however, translate to improved fortunes for local dealerships long inconvenienced by smuggled units from the neighbouring country.
In a new directive by the Uganda Revenue Authority (URA), imports of vehicles older than nine years will from July 1, 2022, be cleared under the East Africa Community’s Single Customs Territory (SCT), which allows members of the bloc to jointly collect customs taxes.

RELATED​

• Why your Vitz, Nissan Note imported unit will cost you over Sh1 million​

  Business Yesterday

• Dealers promise new vehicles at price of second-hand imports​

  Business Yesterday

“Pursuant to section 64 (k) of the East African Customs Management Regulations 2010, the Uganda Revenue Authority wishes to inform the general public that effective July 1,2022 motor vehicles of nine years old or more from the date of manufacture shall no longer be cleared under the warehousing regime,” URA said in a notice seen by Smart Business.
“The customs clearance of such motor vehicles shall be facilitated under the Single Customs Territory arrangement where taxes will be paid upon arrival at the port of entry into the East African Community,” the Ugandan taxman added.

Uganda market​

Currently, importers of vehicles destined for the Uganda market are allowed to store their units in holding units approved by tax authorities—commonly referred to as bonded warehouses-- pending payment of customs duties.
This has been popular with many Ugandan importers because it eases liquidity pressure on them and encourages them to import more units some of which are later dumped in the more lucrative Kenyan market by crafty dealers.
Most of the used cars sourced from Uganda, though cheaper, are much older than those in the Kenyan used vehicles market because Kampala had not put an age limit on imported second-hand automobiles.

This implies that one can ship in a much older car through Uganda, declare low custom value and pay much lower taxes compared to direct importation into Kenya where the maximum age limit on used cars has been set at eight years—meaning that the car market in Kenya has newer and pricier vehicles.
Under the SCT system, however, conditions will be tougher for Ugandan importers. In this regional scheme, importers in each of the EAC partner States are required to lodge import declaration forms in their respective home countries and pay relevant taxes upfront to facilitate the export process.

Cross-border movement​

Respective revenue agencies would then issue a road manifest against the import documents submitted electronically by tax officials of the importing country to allow cross-border movement.
This is expected to have an impact on the cash flow of many auto dealers in Uganda, and discourage them from importing large numbers of the cheaper, older, and low-quality vehicles which are popular with buyers in the black market, especially in western Kenya.
In Kenya, only new vehicles are kept in bonded warehouses while second-hand vehicles have to pay duty within 21 days or start attracting extra charges.
Kenya Auto Bazaar (Kaba) secretary-general Charles Munyori, however, said Uganda’s move may not fully impact the black market trade unless the region adopts the same standards.
“It will only work if Uganda and Kenya make explicit limitations and the time limit is at par, otherwise Uganda still allows older vehicles just that you pay more,” he said.

Kenya is also the only East African country with strict age limits on car imports making vehicles in the country expensive and lucrative for the black market trade of selling cars meant for export locally.
EAC member-states have failed to enforce proposals to lower the age limit for imported used cars to five years by 2021.
Uganda’s move is a measure to bring the country’s car age limit closer to the EAC resolution that had recommended the slashing of the age limit for imported cars to five years by 2021.
It was only in 2018 that Uganda passed a law limiting the importation of vehicles manufactured more than 15 years ago.

Eight years​

Kenya has been pushing regional countries towards adopting the EAC recommendation and has already announced plans to limit the age of used vehicles with engine capacity above 1500cc imported to five instead of the current eight years.
Tanzania allows imports of cars as old as 10 years while Burundi, Rwanda, and South Sudan, on the other hand, have no formal age limits for used cars. The different set of age limits within the region has fuelled tax and regulatory arbitrage to ship in cheaper and older cars.
Many Kenyans are reportedly involved in a tax and regulatory arbitrage to ship in cheaper and older cars.
Recent raises in car import duties have made the Kenyan black market attractive for dealers in the region.
Car traders in Kenya are currently caught in a legal fight with the Kenya Revenue Authority (KRA) which had in July 2020, published a new Current Retail Selling Price (CRSP) -- a database of prices of new vehicles in the country that forms the basis of taxing second-hand units after taking into account depreciation.

Car Importers Association of Kenya, which represents 80 dealers of used vehicles, moved to court and got orders suspending implementation of the new catalogue.
The dealers argue that the new CRSP is inflated and has the potential to increase the final prices of some car models by hundreds of thousands of shillings.
The Court of Appeal this month extended a freeze on KRA's move to raise taxes on used motor vehicle imports by adjusting the base on which various levies are computed.
The suit over the higher taxes comes as used car prices in Kenya have jumped by an average of 37 percent over the past six months as demand outstrips supply globally on production cuts.
This has pushed the cost of low-end vehicles such as Nissan Note and Toyota Vitz above the Sh1 million mark.
The prices of used vehicles are dependent on many factors, including dealer margins, the age of the car, and a series of cumulative taxes.
The tax value is calculated based on the CRSP -- which should match showroom prices -- for that specific model, adjusted for depreciation at a rate of 10 percent per year. Insurance and freight charges are added to the adjusted CRSP to arrive at the customs value.
The vehicle then attracts an import duty of 25 percent, excise duty (ranging from 25 percent to 35 percent), and value-added tax of 16 percent, payable cumulatively and in that order.
A higher CRSP quote has the effect of inflating taxes and the ultimate yard prices of second-hand cars. The association obtained showroom prices independently and compared them with the KRA's list to build its case, the court was told

Uganda import rule boosts Kenya car dealers

The nine-year stringent condition expected to disturb local black market, but improve fortunes for genuine dealers.

nation.africa

Watu wapumbavu wamejaa kwenye huu uzi siku hizi. Yaani watu wamewacha kudebate kutumia facts wanatumia ujinga kudebate. Sasa hii nchi ya Tanzania ambayo bado inaruhusu magari zaidi ya 10 years baada ya year of manufacture ndio tunaambiwa kwamba ina gari mpya nyingi? Kenya ndio nchi pekee EA ambayo imeweka age restriction on imported cars. Uzi huu umeharibiwa na vichaa.

Imebidi niquote hii paragraph hapa chini 👇 👇

Uganda’s move is a measure to bring the country’s car age limit closer to the EAC resolution that had recommended the slashing of the age limit for imported cars to five years by 2021.
It was only in 2018 that Uganda passed a law limiting the importation of vehicles manufactured more than 15 years ago.

Eight years​

Kenya has been pushing regional countries towards adopting the EAC recommendation and has already announced plans to limit the age of used vehicles with engine capacity above 1500cc imported to five instead of the current eight years.
Tanzania allows imports of cars as old as 10 years while Burundi, Rwanda, and South Sudan, on the other hand, have no formal age limits for used cars. The different set of age limits within the region has fuelled tax and regulatory arbitrage to ship in cheaper and older cars.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Umetoa wapi hiyo data? source?..,even though umeandika opinion, inaonyesha uzito wa economy ya kenya, consumption iko juu😀

Kwa mtu yeyote mwenyekujitambua hawezi kufurahia uchumi ambao una "consume" zaidi kuliko wenye kuzalisha, hiyo ni dalili ya wazi kwamba uchumi wa Kenya unasambaratika.

 

[Don YF]

Hii sasa iwe kweli maana kamba zimesidi 👇

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Hizi ma pambio mumeziimba hadi basi.., ngojeni ianze before posting..,
Mlianza 2019....👇👇

Mkaja 2021 mkisema by November...,

Uchumi hafifu lazima mambo yaende kwa speed inayolingana na uwezo wa uchumi, ata kwa kupata mkopo, inawachukua mda!..,

 

[Tony254]

Mbona huwa unashindwa kuchanganua mambo? We consume what we produce and we import what we dont produce but nyie you import almost everything even food items that you could easily produce yourself. Halafu import bill kubwa ni ishara ya weak manufacturing sector.

Sijui kwa nini unagandia imports pekee. Hio statistics niliyokupatia inajumuisha both imports na exports. Yaani imports na exports inayopitia Mombasa port ni 35 million tonnes. Imports na exports zinazopitia Dar Slum port ni 17 million tonnes. Sikuwa nazungumzia imports pekee bali both imports and exports.

 

[Don YF]

Kwa mtu yeyote mwenyekujitambua hawezi kufurahia uchumi ambao una "consume" zaidi kuliko wenye kuzalisha, hiyo ni dalili ya wazi kwamba uchumi wa Kenya unasambaratika.

Tanzania is a consuming economy kama hauna taarifa., alafu pia ujue consumption pia inaweza kutumika kama kigezo cha kuonyesha uwezo wa uchumi wa nchi ama mtu binafsi, ndio maana budget ya fukara kama wewe uwezi linganisha na budget ya tajiri when going for shopping.,😂😂😂