Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

[Tony254]

Sahau kuhusu LAPSSET, Ethiopia is out, South Sudan is not capable with any thing apart from civil war for now. You are remaining with Lamu port which is almost white big elephant like Your SGR from Nairobi to Naivasha

Sent from my TECNO-L8 using JamiiForums mobile app

Ethiopia is not out.

 

[Tony254]

Muda wa ujenzi unaanza pale feasibility study inapokua imekamilika na kuruhusu ujenzi uendelee, ndio sababu wameweka hapo uweze kujua muda uliotumika kumaliza huo mradi toka siku feasibility study ilipokamilika.

Sent from my TECNO-L8 using JamiiForums mobile app

Feasibility study ilifanywa 2014. Kwa hivyo ni miaka sita sio tisa kama asemavyo Geza Ulole

 

[Tony254]

But poor finishing as usual!

Poor finishing? Hujui unachosema. I&M bank wana buildings hatari sana. Hii hapa ni ya Nairobi CBD

Nairobi CBD

Hata hilo jengo zuri la glass uliyocomment ni yao, iko parklands. Kwa hivyo wana buildings mbili za glass


Parklands

 

[joto la jiwe]

Feasibility study ilifanywa 2014. Kwa hivyo ni miaka sita sio tisa kama asemavyo Geza Ulole

Feasibility study ilikamilika 2011, point namba moja hapo katika bandiko lako

Sent from my TECNO-L8 using JamiiForums mobile app

 

[joto la jiwe]

Ethiopia is not out.

Ethiopia is very much out. Ethiopia imejenga reli kuunganisha na Djibout, kama ninyi mnalazimisha matumizi ya SGR ili kulipa deni la mchina, vipi mtegemee Ethiopia asitumie bandari ya Djibout badala yake atumie Mombasa, atalipaje deni la mchina?.

Sasa hivi uhusiano kati ya Ethiopia na Eritrea ni mzuri sana, Ethiopia imeanza kutumia bandari ya Asmara ambayo ni karibu sana kwa barabara kuliko Mombasa

Sent from my TECNO-L8 using JamiiForums mobile app

 

[Mr bongo]

Watu wa communer railways dar es salaam hatuko nyuma, the current one serve more than 6m people per year and plan is to build 6(six) more route.


TRC eyes six commuter railway networks in Dar

 

[Tony254]

Feasibility study ilikamilika 2011, point namba moja hapo katika bandiko lako

Sent from my TECNO-L8 using JamiiForums mobile app

Eti unasema ujenzi unaanza kuhesabiwa feasibility unapoisha? Kwa hivyo pipeline project yenu ujenzi ushaanza kwa sababu feasibility ilishakamilika zamani?

 

[joto la jiwe]

Point #9 under Subheading "Milestone", Feasibility study completed in 2011

Sent from my TECNO-L8 using JamiiForums mobile app

 

[Tony254]

Ethiopia is very much out. Ethiopia imejenga reli kuunganisha na Djibout, kama ninyi mnalazimisha matumizi ya SGR ili kulipa deni la mchina, vipi mtegemee Ethiopia asitumie bandari ya Djibout badala yake atumie Mombasa, atalipaje deni la mchina?.

Sasa hivi uhusiano kati ya Ethiopia na Eritrea ni mzuri sana, Ethiopia imeanza kutumia bandari ya Asmara ambayo ni karibu sana kwa barabara kuliko Mombasa

Sent from my TECNO-L8 using JamiiForums mobile app

When did Ethiopia say that they are out? Weka evidence. Hapa JF tunadeal na evidence sio story za vijiweni

 

[TYWIN LANNISTER]

"Commuter rail( itabeba)[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23].
Tusubiri kwanza ikishabeba ndio urudi tuzungumze, kwa sasa hivi Tanzania Commuter rail + BRT zinabeba watu wengi mara 3 zaidi ya wanaobebwa na Commuter train yenu.

Kuhusu Maji, Dar es salaam 99% ya Population yake inapata maji safi na Salama. Kwa nchi nzima: 74% ya rural na 88% ya urban Population inapata maji safi na salama. Hivi ndio vitu tunataka kusikia, sio GDP isiokuwa na usaidizi kwa wananchi

Sent from my TECNO-L8 using JamiiForums mobile app

Pole Sana nilisahau inabeba 😂😂😂
unikumbushe pia electric train yenu ikianza kubeba watu na mizigo
Kwasababu nimegoogle nchi zenye electric rail Africa Tanzania haipo
Leta evidence kuhusu maji 😂😂😂

 

[joto la jiwe]

Eti unasema ujenzi unaanza kuhesabiwa feasibility unapoisha? Kwa hivyo pipeline project yenu ujenzi ushaanza kwa sababu feasibility ilishakamilika zamani?

Hata hili pipeline yetu, lazima kipindi cha "project implemantation kinaanzia mara tu "Feasibility study inapokamilika, construction" ni sehemu tu ya mradi mzima, kumbuka kuna " Fund mobilization", tender announcement and awarding", kwenye hicho kipengele cha Construction kuna kipindi cha miezi 6 ya "Construction equipments mobilization, site clearing"......

Sent from my TECNO-L8 using JamiiForums mobile app

 

[Mr bongo]

Pole Sana nilisahau inabeba 😂😂😂
unikumbushe pia electric train yenu ikianza kubeba watu na mizigo
Kwasababu nimegoogle nchi zenye electric rail Africa Tanzania haipo
Leta evidence kuhusu maji 😂😂😂

We kuwa serious iyo nairobi rail ina capacity iyo ila sio inabeba watu 1.5 per single day unanambia populatn ya nairobi 4.5m kati yao 1.5m always wanapanda izo tren so private cars na matatu zinabeba nn?? Afu izo bado ni projection DSM commuter rail inabeba 15k to 20k per single day na project ni kujenda 6more route saivi ziko route 2 za uhakika.TRC eyes six commuter railway networks in Dar

 

[Naton Jr]

Maybe, however as a black people tuko na njia ndefu sana kabla tufike 1st world Country. Mashindano kati yetu sisi waafrika furaha kwa mabeberu.

Ila mwaswast ama kwa hakika tumekunyoosha kama rula, hivi ni wewe yule ama ninaota?

Watanzania tuna kila sababu ya kutembea kifua mbele sababu harakati zetu za kuwafungua macho wakenya zimeanza kuzaa matunda, mwaswast ni mmoja tu aliekiri wazi, wapo wengine wanagugumia rohoni na wengine wamehama kabisa jukwaa

Ama kwa hakika wakenya mambo bado, yajayo yanafurahisha zaidi 😅😅😅

Mwaswast ni wewe uliekua ukihitaji kilometres 1 tu ya SGR? Dunia inaenda kasi sana 😅😅😅

 

[komora096]

Imekuaje hapa washaanza kuichubua? Hiyo line ya juu kwenye strippes tayari rangu ya blue imechubuka!

Chuma cha zamani hicho[emoji23][emoji23]

 

[TYWIN LANNISTER]

kwan dar hakuna commuter rail au umechanganyikiwa wewe

Nionyeshe ikibeba watu na station zake

 

[komora096]

so kila wanachosema wazungu ww unakiamini hata kama anachuki zake binafsi???

Kwhyo katumwa na mabeberu waiumbus tanzania

 

[Tony254]

Hata hili pipeline yetu, lazima kipindi cha "project implemantation kinaanzia mara tu "Feasibility study inapokamilika, construction" ni sehemu tu ya mradi mzima, kumbuka kuna " Fund mobilization", tender announcement and awarding", kwenye hicho kipengele cha Construction kuna kipindi cha miezi 6 ya "Construction equipments mobilization, site clearing"......

Sent from my TECNO-L8 using JamiiForums mobile app

Kwa hivyo ujenzi wa pipeline yenu ilianza zamani? Wewe unadefine ujenzi in very broad terms. Lakini kwa lugha ya yahe wa kawaida ukisema ujenzi umeanza siku fulani, yeye anaelewa kuwa hio ndio siku bulldozer zilianza kupiga kazi. Hio ndio siku earthmover ilianza kuparamia ardhi. Sasa upo sahihi lakini hio definition yako ni general sana. Sasa construction ya pipeline yenu ilianza miaka mitatu iliopita kulingana na definition yako. Construction kwa kawaida tunamaanisha ujenzi wenyewe lakini ninakuelewa unachomaanisha.

 

[TYWIN LANNISTER]

😂😂😂Tz ni Dar na Dar ni Tz including low life residential designs za kishamba, hamna lolote to level kamweeee😂😂., vipicha ndio yenu😂😂😂😂 weka Mwanza 2nd city nicheke kidogo😂😂😂 hapa hamniambii chochote😂😂

Mwanza niliwaambia Hata ruiru itaitoa mapomvu

 

[TYWIN LANNISTER]

Mb
Mbona Kenyatta anapita dunia nzima na bakuli Sie hatusemi?

Wapi Tanzanian beggars wamejaa huku kla kona na sura za uzuni za ujamaa

 

[TYWIN LANNISTER]

Poor finishing? Hujui unachosema. I&M bank wana buildings hatari sana. Hii hapa ni ya Nairobi CBD

Nairobi CBD

View attachment 1613707View attachment 1613708

Hata hilo jengo zuri la glass uliyocomment ni yao, iko parklands. Kwa hivyo wana buildings mbili za glass


Parklands

View attachment 1613719

Im bank tower ilijengwa Kama bado dar fishing village saa hii wanaleta kimbelembele hapa