Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

[Shebby01]

ila mchina alichowafanyia jirani zetu sijui kama hata harufu ya mbingu ataisikia😂😂 yani mwaka 2021 wanatumia treni za 1910

Zinaitwa modern changaa locomotives 😃😃😃
Na zina WiFi na choo cha shimo mwendo wa kudondosha😃😃😃

 

[Sama boy 255]

Apart from being stuck in traffic, matatus are better than your failed BRT. It`s good you have accepted that your BRT has failed miserably.

Owky, najua BRT zenyew unaishia kuziona kwenye picha tu, BRT bongo ziko na miaka mitano zinapiga kazi, vipi unasema zimefeli.? Unataka kulinganisha matatu yani hizi 👇

hizi Matatu zenu ni hovyo hata tulinganisha na mfumo wa usafiri wa daladala zetu kawaida.. kwanza hizi matatu zenu hazina hata stops za kueleweka, sio safe watu wanapanda hovyo popote pale bila mpangilio.. ukiachana na foleni pia nyingi Kati ya hizo ni mibasi mobovu.. heb jifunze kitu daladala za bongo zinavyokimbiza mifumo yenu ya usafirishaji uko kwenu 😂😂😂 Heb ona hapa 👇 daladala stops. mbezi luiz daladala stop

Simu 2000 daladala stop 👇

Makumbusho daladala stops 👇

na daladala stops kibao, these are everywhere in Dar es Salaam and many cities in Tz 👇

.. kwahiyo kwa kifupi nyinyi hamtuwezi hata robo kwenye masuala ya usafiri.. hii system ya daladala tu DSM ni better kuliko system za hizo matatu zenu ambazo hazina hata bus stops za kupandia, zinagaa hovyo mitaani 😂😂😂, halaf mpumbavu ka wewe uko hapa kutaja BT ambazo unazionaga tu kwenye video..😂😂😂

 

[joto la jiwe]

Today is when you are discovering kwanza and you think it's a Tanzanian thing?? Jeez!!

Ujamaa is a Kenyan thing?

 

[IamLee]

watu wanamaisha magumu hawa kuliko kunguni 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

So now kenyans drive on the right side of the road and super petrol is 630 per litre??🤣🤣 upuzi mko nayo ni mob

 

[joto la jiwe]

Alafu amekwamilia the word "ujamaa" as Tanzania is the only country using that word. I`m sure hata hajui kuwa ujamaa is an Arabic word.

Jinga kabisa wewe, ujamaa ni mfumo wa maisha aliobuni Nyerere (African socialism),

 

[Sama boy 255]

Jinga kabisa wewe, ujamaa ni mfumo wa maisha aliobuni Nyerere (African socialism),

Unafkiri hilo tahira limesoma hata history.?

 

[Sama boy 255]

So now kenyans drive on the right side of the road and super petrol is 630 per litre??🤣🤣 upuzi mko nayo ni mob

Kiingereza kingi, huna ulichoeleza kinachowiana na post iliyowekwa jinga kabisa

 

[Walker255]

Ila kuna nchi za hovyo Africa, imagine trillion 3.6 zinajenga kilometers 55 za reli 😂😂😂😂😂

I think commuter railways ni relatively more expensive kujenga kwasababu ya factors kama land compensations. Elevated railway ambayo iko proposed kujengwa Dar kutoka Tegeta hadi Aga Khan itagharimu almost $1.2 billion. Na ni kilometa 21.7 tu. Na pia itakuwa ni electrified SGR. Hapa hatujaongea gharama za sections nyingine kama underground section kutoka Agha Khan to Gerezani.Kujenga reli ya kisasa Sio cheap!

 

[Don YF]

Watu wanaacha kuku quote kwasababu unaongea upuuzi mzee.. sasa Kati ya kenya na Tz ni nchi ipi iko na laana .? Nyinyi sindio mnaongoza kwa madeni ukanda huu wote.? Spika anaongea maneno hayo ili ku encourage kujitegemea na sio kuwa taifa tegemezi (kutegemea mikopo na misaada) na hiyo spirit iko ndani ya watanzania tuliowengi pamoja na Magufuli, that's why tuko na madeni kidogo kuliko nchi yoyote ukanda huu.. ajabu eti wewe mpuuzi wa Kenya unapiga kelele eti Tz Ina laana kisa kupinga kukopa 😂😂😂😂, sidhani kama Unaakili timamu we jamaa

Kilaza wa vijiweni hauna uwelewa wowote wa economics, kukua na madeni sio ufukara dogo, ni strategy, if u know u know, hii issue sio ya level ya fikra zako, ona unavyo anika ujinga, ungebaki kwa street ya mapicha tu😂😂😂😂kabishane na mama👇, nchi ni fukara yeye atakopa miradi isisimame, anasema kama mataifa tajiri yanakopa kujiendeleza mbona na yeye asikope.., wewe kalilie kwa choo., Mtanyooka tu, mimi nitakunyoosha kila uchao😂😂😂😂😂, vumilia bado ni kionjo tu😂😂
Mama Samia anaweka mambo wazi wazi, ujinga wa "kwa pesa za ndani" propaganda nahisi ni dini yake haimuruhusu kukua muongo, ni wazi nchi haijiwezi..., ilhali iko na rasilmali nyingi mno, hii kukosa uwezo itakua ni laana hivi ama ujinga😂😂😂, hongera mama Samia, komboa Tanzania na uwaondolee ujinga👏👏👏👏

PRESIDENT SAMIA ANSWERS NDUGAI
Summary
According to Ndugai, Tanzania would rather raise domestic taxes to fund its own development budget, arguing at Sh70 trillion, the national debt was a huge and dangerous burden.
Dar es Salaam. Tanzania President Samia Suluhu Hassan on Tuesday dismissed critics of government borrowing, affirming her administration's intent to source for more loans for infrastructure development.
The Head of State said concerns about the country’s burgeoning national debt were misplaced.
She was speaking at the signing ceremony of the extension of the SGR construction contract held at the State House in Dar es Salaam.
Reiterating that the Government will continue to borrow to complete the construction of the more than 1000km railway line, Samia noted that critics were losing sight of the ultimate benefits of the critical infrastructure.

The contract signed today is for the construction of the 368 km stretch from Makutupora in ......region to Tabora at a cost of $1.908 billion (Sh4.41 trillion). The contract was between Tanzania Railways (TRC) and Turkish contractors Yapi Merkezi who have also done the Dar-Morogoro section.
“As I said the investment so far is Sh14.7 trillion so if we do not carry on with the construction and complete it, the money we have invested will be worthless. So either way we will have to continue (borrowing)… we will look for simple, effective ways to borrow,” said President Samia.
Her defence came hot in the heels of Speaker of National Assembly Job Ndugai's attack on what he described as insatiable appetite for loans by the government.
The Speaker appeared to criticise continued government borrowing of foreign loans for local development projects.
"We have to question whether this trend is sustainable ....we risk the country being auctioned owing to its indebted," warned Mr Ndugai in his uncharacteristic criticism of the government.
According to Ndugai, Tanzania would rather raise domestic taxes to fund its own development budget, arguing at Sh70 trillion, the national debt was a huge and dangerous burden.
The Speaker made reference to recently introduced mobile tax as an example, arguing that Tanzanians must be ready to shoulder the cost of their own development and not rely on the expensive foreign loans. He spoke at a different event in Dodoma.

But in her indirect response (She did not mention names), President samia noted: "There is no way.. how we can raise this money through mobile money transaction levies or the taxes that we collect internally, we must borrow to complete this project.”
The President said she would not let the projects stall for lack of funding, saying it would be a waste of tax payers money already sunk in the SGR.
"There are efforts to stall us over the debts but I want to assure you that will fail as no project will be abandoned," she said.



According to her, Tanzania's case was not unique as even rich nations continued to borrow to develop.
Ndugai spoke at the second general assembly of Mikalile Ye Wanyusi members held in Dodoma, Ndugai defended Parliament's decision to introduce levies of mobile money transaction fees, rather than continue borrowing.
“Recently the President borrowed 1.3 trillion and there was ululation ..is it better we Tanzanians of 60 years of independence are more and more indebted to the foreigners? Let us build our nation without these huge and incomprehensible debts. When will we do it ourselves and how',”said Speaker Ndugai.
He said it was shameful for Tanzania to continue borrowing happily.
"Now in 2025 you will decide, if that is the way to run the country now our debt is Sh70 trillion. That is not ‘healthy’. One day the country will be auctioned off,” said Ndugai.

Tanzania secured about $3 billion in loans in the first nine months of President Samia Suluhu Hassan’s leadership, with commentators attributing this to improved relations with development partners.

 

[Don YF]

I think commuter railways ni relatively more expensive kujenga kwasababu ya factors kama land compensations. Elevated railway ambayo iko proposed kujengwa Dar kutoka Tegeta hadi Aga Khan itagharimu almost $1.2 billion. Na ni kilometa 21.7 tu. Na pia itakuwa ni electrified SGR. Hapa hatujaongea gharama za sections nyingine kama underground section kutoka Agha Khan to Gerezani.Kujenga reli ya kisasa Sio cheap!
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A nice explanation, watanzania hapa jf wangekua na reasoning kama hizi na sio tu kukurupuka kiholela the debate and discussions would have been interesting and constructive. But as at now this is more of a fun base, laughter from funny responses inabidi nicheze kwa level zao to keep the fun going😂.,

 

[Arnold mrass cannambo]

Any Kenyan without employment go see this Somali guy

Yaani wa Somali Kenya ndio wenye pesa kuliko wakenya

Daylight prostitution in Nairobi CBD

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Ati Wasomali Kenya Ndio wenye Pesa? Wasomali Kenya Ndio Maskini Wakutupwa. In fact ile Njaa unaskia Ikihangaisha Serekali ya Kenya ni Wasomali wanahangaika. Wakenya ndio hulisha wasomali kenya. Yani umaskini iko na hii jamii ya Wasomali haisemeki lakini ju wako na Kiburi kama watanzania na Matharau ukiwapeleka wachache nairobi waone lami na wakodeshe Nyumba ya Kamau wanathani wamefika . Alafu tena kuzaana kama Mapanya. Ndio hawa wakiongea utathani dubai ni yao . Alafu tena Wachafu Kupindukia mtaa yao ndio inaongoza na kipindupindu Nairobi

 

[NDINDA]

mambo yanenda kasi sana

 

[Arnold mrass cannambo]

Any Kenyan without employment go see this Somali guy

Yaani wa Somali Kenya ndio wenye pesa kuliko wakenya

Daylight prostitution in Nairobi CBD

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Kenya Jamii zinaongoza kwa Pesa ni zile zinazoishi highland regions. Kikuyu ndio wanamiliki Mali mingi Kenya Wasomali sasa ndio uso ya umaskini East Africa wacha Kenya. Zile picha za Watu wakikufa Njaa Africa wazungu hutangaza 90% zimechukuliwa eneo za Wasomali East Africa ju hawa ni watu hata Ukulima hawajui ni kenya na Uganda inawalisha. Alu hata sio waafrika kamili wamechukia Wabantu kabisa. Ni Mbantu mjinga tu ndio anaweza unga mkono hizi panya za kiarabu.

 

[Don YF]

Ajabu kweli, eti mkenya anabeza Tz miradi kuendesha na mkopo ilihali mradi wenu mkubwa kwasasa ni express way ambayo ni mali ya mchina for 39 good years, SGR n.k .. Dar itself iko na miradi mingi ya maendeleo kuliko kenya yote combined.. usichokijua ni kwamba DSM tunavyoongea sasahiv tuko na miradi mikubwa mingi mno .. kuna Flyovers 4 U/C, BRT phase 2 👇View attachment 2060965daraja la sarenda 👇View attachment 2060967upanuzi wa bandari, na miradi ya barabara kila kona .. eti miradi iko stagnant ilihali kila mwezi tunawka updates za miradi ya SGR phase 1 &2 kwa pamoja, ujenzi wa bwawa la umeme kila leo update zinawekwa humu, miradi ya ujenzi wa mji wa serikali juzi kati tu tumeweka taarifa za ujenzi wake .. au mzee kwasababu ya uchizi na Roho mbaya yako ndio vinakufanya ujifanye vyote hivi huvioni.? Basi kutakua na maana gani ya kujibizana na tahira kama wewe.? Hii thread sio mahala pako babu nenda kabishane na walevi wenzako vijiweni uko.. hatuwezi kuwa tunarudia rudia kusema vitu vilevile kila leo .. nenda kaoshe matako wakupake mafuta

😂😂😂😂😂😂 Unalia nini dogo? Nimekutesa kweli, ukinipata naona utaninyonga wewe😂😂😂😂😂😂, wapi SGR tunaingia 2022.., pipeline?., Vimuradi vidogo vidogo visikutie kiwewe wewe mfalme wa ma tahira humu,😂😂😂., Malizeni miradi kisha uje, nchi ni hafifu kiuchumi ndio maana😂😂😂, mama atakopa usilie dogo, hakuna miradi itakayo kwama kutokea sasa😂😂😂😂 na Expressway isn't the biggest project in Kenya, only the fasted executed so far, get the difference., imewauma ila mtanyooka tu.,😂😂😂😂.,

 

[Don YF]

Sasa hapa tunaelewana, deni muhimu 😂😂😂👏👏👏👏👏
Pesa za ndani nyef nyef, nyambaff😂😂😂😂😂., Kopa mjenge taifa, mko na uchumi hafifu, pia tajiri anakopa sembuse nyie fukara😂😂😂😂😂, hadi raha.,
#maendeleo raha

 

[Don YF]

Owky, najua BRT zenyew unaishia kuziona kwenye picha tu, BRT bongo ziko na miaka mitano zinapiga kazi, vipi unasema zimefeli.? Unataka kulinganisha matatu yani hizi 👇View attachment 2061114View attachment 2061115View attachment 2061116View attachment 2061117View attachment 2061118hizi Matatu zenu ni hovyo hata tulinganisha na mfumo wa usafiri wa daladala zetu kawaida.. kwanza hizi matatu zenu hazina hata stops za kueleweka, sio safe watu wanapanda hovyo popote pale bila mpangilio.. ukiachana na foleni pia nyingi Kati ya hizo ni mibasi mobovu.. heb jifunze kitu daladala za bongo zinavyokimbiza mifumo yenu ya usafirishaji uko kwenu 😂😂😂 Heb ona hapa 👇 daladala stops. mbezi luiz daladala stopView attachment 2061122View attachment 2061123Simu 2000 daladala stop 👇View attachment 2061125View attachment 2061130View attachment 2061131View attachment 2061136Makumbusho daladala stops 👇View attachment 2061140View attachment 2061141na daladala stops kibao, these are everywhere in Dar es Salaam and many cities in Tz 👇View attachment 2061142View attachment 2061143.. kwahiyo kwa kifupi nyinyi hamtuwezi hata robo kwenye masuala ya usafiri.. hii system ya daladala tu DSM ni better kuliko system za hizo matatu zenu ambazo hazina hata bus stops za kupandia, zinagaa hovyo mitaani 😂😂😂, halaf mpumbavu ka wewe uko hapa kutaja BT ambazo unazionaga tu kwenye video..😂😂😂

Utajiliwaza hadi lini?😂😂😂😂 Unaandika kwa maumivu na nguvu nyingi sana nikama hatuzijui dala dala zenu na tabia zenu, yaani huwa mnaingilia hadi madirishani, nyambaff 😂😂😂, propaganda wacha pembeni, mko hovyo zaidi ya Kenya on average, yani mko below licha ya maendeleo chache hapa na pale, hii BRT, vigorofa vichache na bridges visikudanganye village boy😂😂😂😂😂😂, ngojeni 25,years kisha uje kama utakua hai😂😂😂.,

 

[Don YF]

So now kenyans drive on the right side of the road and super petrol is 630 per litre??🤣🤣 upuzi mko nayo ni mob

Wanajiliwaza, wangoje 25 years😂😂😂😂

 

[The best 007]

Maumivu ya 37% connectivity rate?

Watu wapo serious we unaleta comedy, endelea na upumbavu wako ukijakustuka utajikuta unaleft jamii forums kwa maumivu.

 

[The best 007]

The guy don`t even know if there is someone by the name Nyerere. He documented all the important people that he met on his way to starting the The Kwanzaa Festival and Nyerere is nowhere to be seen.

Kawalilie hawa hapa tafadhali

 

[chongchung]

Hivi hiyo Estleigh ushaiona bila filter!

Ni Slum moja hata Kibera ikasome ila huwa wanaipaisha mno na kusema ni kama London 😂😂😂😂 cha ajabu leo wanawakashfu wakazi wa 'London' na kusema ni mafukara tu nchini Kenya 😂😂😂

Muongo muongoze 🤣🤣🤣