Mengi vs Manji: Ukweli ni upi?

[Kazi Ndiyo Kipimo Cha Utu]

This Day is not owned by Mengi . Wenye gazeti walianzisha ili kupingana na mafisadi wenzao kuendeleza mtandao wao . Mengi ni carrier kama huamini ngoja usikilize kesi ya madai ya Warioba kama ataona ndani .

Awe carrier au nani lakini ana uhusiano na hilo gazeti!

 

[Manji Supporter]

THISDAY REPORTER
Dar es Salaam

A SUBSIDIARY of the crisis-ridden Quality Group Limited, MyCell, is
seeking a bank guarantee from the local branch of the Bank of Baroda
following refusal by local banks to grant such facilities to the
controversial group owned by Yusuf Manji.

Documentary evidence availed to THISADY indicates that MyCell is one of
the local companies seeking to participate in the construction of a
national optic fibre backbone for the country. The company has a licence
from the Tanzania Communications Regulatory Authority (TCRA).

Sources from the telecommunications sector have revealed that Quality
Group has since hired over 90 Indian and Pakistani information and
communication technology experts whom it brought into the country since
October last year ? all of them now working fulltime for MyCell which has
its headquarters at Quality Plaza in the city.

The sources say Quality Group has approached an Indian company to seek
Bank of Baroda’s guarantee which requires that only Indian companies
qualify for such a facility -- because local banks have refused to give
Quality Group any loans and guarantees to contest in the national optic
fibre backbone project.

’’This is another hoax ? the government should stop MyCell from taking
part in this project because it won’t deliver ? it’s simply another way of
stealing our money and sending it abroad,’’ the sources said. Documentary
evidence availed to THISDAY reveals that most of the Indian and Pakistani
IT experts came here on a six-month business visas but still continue
working without valid permits.
?
The sources said one Mr. Rajiv Bali, an Indian and his associates are
party to the trafficking of IT experts who are currently doing nothing at
Quality Plaza because banks are refusing to give loans or guarantees to
Manji’s numerous companies based in Dar es Salaam, Mwanza and Morogoro.

’’Rajiv Bali keeps going to India every two months to get people on a
visitor’s pass on behalf of a fraud company (MyCell). They first apply for
holiday visas for three months ? then once Quality Group?has paid the
immigration the required fee with all the commissions, they provide these
Indians with a work permit for two years ? but over 90 per cent of these
never complete their contracts ? they leave after merely nine months after
experiencing the fraud that is happening under their noses,’’ our sources
reveal.

Manji is currently coaxing several international companies from Germany,
China, India and Kenya to jointly tender for the national optic-fibre
project.

This is a smear piece by Manji's enemies. Nothing wrong with importing experts from India and Pakistan. Even America imports them to work at Silicon Valley. I see no evidence of foul play as of yet. We need more evidence not unfounded rumours made up to smear Mr. Manji.

 

[KadaMpinzani]

Acha kusingizia watu, tuhuma kama hizi bila kichwa wala mguu kwenye public platform kama hii utaonekana mzushi wa mambo..

Aliyesingizia nani ?? Kipi nilichosingizia ? Ok, mie nimeshasema ninachokijua then wewe sema basi unayoyajua mpaka useme kwamba nasingizia. Inaelekea una info zooote na unajuana nao, right ? ok, tumwagie mtama hapa !!

 

[KadaMpinzani]

Kada Mpinzani ndiyo Mengi ana mapungufu yake Na Kuna ukweli kwamba This Day Ni Gazeti lake lakini hili la UDINI Umempaka matope .Na ni ukweli usiopingika pia kwamba Mengi na Manji picha haziendi Lakini hili vile vile halizui magazeti yake kuandika ukweli kama upo ati kwa kuogopa kuonekana anamfuatafuata manji.Kama yaliyoandikwa na hilo Gazeti hayana ukweli tusianze kutafuta mmiliki wa Gazeti ni nani?Bali tuangalie Habari zilizoandikwa zina ukweli kiasi gani? Kama Habari zilizoandikwa na hilo Gazeti hazina ukweli Basi Manji anawajibu wa kuzitolea maelezo yaliyosahihi na asiishie hapo bali hata kuchukua hatua za kisheria ili kukomesha hilo lisirudie tena na huu ni ushauri wa bure kwa MANJI.

Unamjua Mengi wewe au unasema tu kama shabiki wa Mengi ?? Again, elewa Nimesema ninachokijua na simsingizii mtu yeyote, i dont have time kumsingizia mtu yeyote after all i dont benefit from it, why kumsingizia mtu na kuwapaka matope ??

Kama mnaona vp, hii iishie hapa hapa maana naona sasa watoto wa JF tusije tukajengeana chuki humu wenyewe kwa wenyewe ukizingatia woote tupo hapa kujadili masuala kemkem !!

Na sidhani kama maneno yangu yatanisaliti katika hili !!

 

[Wambandwa]

THISDAY REPORTER
Dar es Salaam

A SUBSIDIARY of the crisis-ridden Quality Group Limited, MyCell, is
seeking a bank guarantee from the local branch of the Bank of Baroda
following refusal by local banks to grant such facilities to the
controversial group owned by Yusuf Manji.

Documentary evidence availed to THISADY indicates that MyCell is one of
the local companies seeking to participate in the construction of a
national optic fibre backbone for the country. The company has a licence
from the Tanzania Communications Regulatory Authority (TCRA).

Sources from the telecommunications sector have revealed that Quality
Group has since hired over 90 Indian and Pakistani information and
communication technology experts whom it brought into the country since
October last year ? all of them now working fulltime for MyCell which has
its headquarters at Quality Plaza in the city.

The sources say Quality Group has approached an Indian company to seek
Bank of Baroda’s guarantee which requires that only Indian companies
qualify for such a facility -- because local banks have refused to give
Quality Group any loans and guarantees to contest in the national optic
fibre backbone project.

’’This is another hoax ? the government should stop MyCell from taking
part in this project because it won’t deliver ? it’s simply another way of
stealing our money and sending it abroad,’’ the sources said. Documentary
evidence availed to THISDAY reveals that most of the Indian and Pakistani
IT experts came here on a six-month business visas but still continue
working without valid permits.
?
The sources said one Mr. Rajiv Bali, an Indian and his associates are
party to the trafficking of IT experts who are currently doing nothing at
Quality Plaza because banks are refusing to give loans or guarantees to
Manji’s numerous companies based in Dar es Salaam, Mwanza and Morogoro.

’’Rajiv Bali keeps going to India every two months to get people on a
visitor’s pass on behalf of a fraud company (MyCell). They first apply for
holiday visas for three months ? then once Quality Group?has paid the
immigration the required fee with all the commissions, they provide these
Indians with a work permit for two years ? but over 90 per cent of these
never complete their contracts ? they leave after merely nine months after
experiencing the fraud that is happening under their noses,’’ our sources
reveal.

Manji is currently coaxing several international companies from Germany,
China, India and Kenya to jointly tender for the national optic-fibre
project.

Kwenye manoeuvre ya Quality Group kuiba pesa zetu hili ni moja wapo! NAKUBALIAN MOJA KWA MOJA NA THIS DAY....

Kwanza Quality Plaza si mali yao na wala hawapangi pale kwa nini wasivukle n'gambo wakapange kwenye lile jengo lao jingine na Supreme Furnishers?

Wewe Mani Supporter ebu sema babake Yusufu yuko wapi?

 

[Kazi Ndiyo Kipimo Cha Utu]

Unamjua Mengi wewe au unasema tu kama shabiki wa Mengi ?? Again, elewa Nimesema ninachokijua na simsingizii mtu yeyote, i dont have time kumsingizia mtu yeyote after all i dont benefit from it, why kumsingizia mtu na kuwapaka matope ??

Kama mnaona vp, hii iishie hapa hapa maana naona sasa watoto wa JF tusije tukajengeana chuki humu wenyewe kwa wenyewe ukizingatia woote tupo hapa kujadili masuala kemkem !!

Na sidhani kama maneno yangu yatanisaliti katika hili !!

Ndiyo Ninamjua na si shabiki wake bali kumjua kwangu hakufanyi kupotosha ukweli kama upo na Kama hakuna ukweli vile vile nitasema .Ndiyo Maana ktk La Udini pamoja na kusema ndiyo unavyojua hakuna ukweli.Amesaidia watu wa dini mbali mbali mfano wagonjwa anaowalipia kwenda India je amelipia wagonjwa wa dini yake tu au dini moja tu? Jibu HAPANA!Ameshiriki kwenye ujenzi wa nyumba za Ibada pamoja na yeye kuwa Mlutheran Lakini nina ushahidi kwamba amesaidia hata nyumba za ibada za wasiokuwa DINI YAKE au asichokiamini ikiwemo moja ya nyumba ya ibada ninamoabudia mimi.Kuhusu ya kuwa na Bifu na manji vile vile nimelikubali na karibu wote humu tunalielewa na hilo nalo nimelieleza pamoja na kuwa na bifu naye Lakini hakuwezi kumfanya vyombo vyake vya habari viaache kuandika yanayomuhusu manji kama ni ya kweli na wanaushahidi nayo ati kwa kuogopa kuonekana amefanya hivyo kwasababu ya kuwa na bifu na manji.Na nikatanabahisha kwamba kama Manji ataona yaliyoandikwa kwenye vyombo vya mengi hayana ukweli Anahaki ya kukanusha au kuvishitaki vyombo vya habari vya mengi kama alivyokwishawahi kusema kwamba angemshitaki au angevishitaki vyombo hivyo huko nyuma.

 

[tHe NapSTer of Tz]

Hivi ni lini nchi hii wala rushwa watawekwa hadharani hata kama hatuna ushahidi. Kuwataja tu inatosha.

Kama kuwataja tu inatosha bila ushahidi basi mimi nakutaja wewe!!! Sema tukutaje wewe Jafar... Yeye kama wamehongwa alijuaje? au alifatwa yeye akakataa? yeye analazimisha hukumu iwe anavyotaka yeye...wen will we b on da rite side???

 

[Kazi Ndiyo Kipimo Cha Utu]

Kama mnaona vp, hii iishie hapa hapa maana naona sasa watoto wa JF tusije tukajengeana chuki humu wenyewe kwa wenyewe ukizingatia woote tupo hapa kujadili masuala kemkem !!

Na sidhani kama maneno yangu yatanisaliti katika hili !!

Hakuna mtu atakujengea chuki,Unachokijua wewe na ulichokiandika ni MDINI na Ninachokijua mimi na kukiandika si MDINI na nikaandika kwa hilo una mpaka matope,kwani hakuna ukweli na ndiyo maana hii ikaitwa Forum Tunajadiliana na si lazima mawazo yetu ya kawa sawa au vyanzo vya habari vikashahabiana.

 

[tHe NapSTer of Tz]

Mengi anagomanisha waislam..............anawagombanisha akina Baswaleh mbona husemi??? Mengi ni manipulator ana ,media wat do u expect? he uses his media to be powerful and strong and gain supporters like who know about your damn country...wafikiria kusoma magezeti yake ndio kuijua hii nchiii????? jamaa anakesi hadi na Mh. Warioba.......hu is dis guy? mayne he thinks he owns this country???????????? well he is DAMN wrong ,,,, maybe he owns his VILLAGE not us mayne.......cummon guyz we r tanzanians we are two expensive to buy!!!sahani ya pilau isitununue.............

think carefull

 

[Kazi Ndiyo Kipimo Cha Utu]

Mengi anagomanisha waislam..............anawagombanisha akina Baswaleh mbona husemi??? Mengi ni manipulator ana ,media wat do u expect? he uses his media to be powerful and strong and gain supporters like who know about your damn country...wafikiria kusoma magezeti yake ndio kuijua hii nchiii????? jamaa anakesi hadi na Mh. Warioba.......hu is dis guy? mayne he thinks he owns this country???????????? well he is DAMN wrong ,,,, maybe he owns his VILLAGE not us mayne.......cummon guyz we r tanzanians we are two expensive to buy!!!sahani ya pilau isitununue.............

think carefull

waislamu gani hao aliwagonganisha mengi?Hivi mengi huyu huyu si ndiyo aliyetunikiwa tunzo na BAKWATA au mengi mwingine?Sasa hao BAKWATA walimtunikia Tunzo kwa minajili ya kuwagonganisha?
Nimesema huko nyuma anamapungufu yake Lakini hili la Udini si Moja kati ya hayo mapungufu. Tafuteni jingine!

 

[tHe NapSTer of Tz]

waislamu gani hao aliwagonganisha mengi?Hivi mengi huyu huyu si ndiyo aliyetunikiwa tunzo na BAKWATA au mengi mwingine?Sasa hao BAKWATA walimtunikia Tunzo kwa minajili ya kuwagonganisha?
Nimesema huko nyuma anamapungufu yake Lakini hili la Udini si Moja kati ya hayo mapungufu. Tafuteni jingine!

wat is BAKWATA? yaani mukae mumpe mtu zawdi au tuzo, kwanza waislam hatuna kawaida ya kutoa tunzo coz mwenye kulipa ni mungu pekee!!!!!! halafu kama ni tunzo basi Mh. Mkapa deserved more he gave us University!!!!

Ukatae ukuabali mengi nagombanisha waislamu... unaniuliza waisslamu gani? nimukutajia akina Sh.Baswaleh na Khalifa.... Eti nae Khalifa anasimama kumtetea Naswara dhidi ya Muislam!!!!!! kama kweli anasaidia waislam basi angewapatanisha...................

 

[Masatu]

Just kuweka records sawa, Gazeti la ThisDay ni sister newspaper la Kulikoni na YOTE yanamilikiwa na Reginald Mengi. Ndio maana Mahalu, Warioba na Manji walipodai kukashfiwa wameyashtaki magazeti na mmiliki wake ambae ni Bw. Mengi.

Kusema kuwa jina la Mengi limetumika tu wenyewe ni wana Mtandao ni mazingaombwe juzi tu Mengi amenukuliwa na magazeti akilalama kuwa kama atashindwa na Manji atafilisika kwani 200bn Tshs anazotakiwa kulipa kama fidia ni nyingi.

Sidhani kama Bw. atakubali kuubeba msalaba wa wana mtandao kiasi hichi cha kuhatarisha biashara zake.

 

[Kazi Ndiyo Kipimo Cha Utu]

wat is BAKWATA
Ukatae ukuabali mengi nagombanisha waislamu... unaniuliza waisslamu gani? nimukutajia akina Sh.Baswaleh na Khalifa.... Eti nae Khalifa anasimama kumtetea Naswara dhidi ya Muislam!!!!!! kama kweli anasaidia waislam basi angewapatanisha...................

Hao mashekh wamegonganishwa vipi?

 

[William J. Malecela]

No! No! Mzee unayemsakama Mengi, unakuwa unfair I know Mengi na ninawajua watu wengi wa karibu yake na marafiki wake wa kweli, the man is good hearted, na hana kinyongo na mtu, na mtu mwenye heshima sana, na nimemjua kwa ndani zaidi kwenye hiii kesi yake majuzi bungeni, ambapo mbunge Malima (CCM) alimtuhumu kuwa anajitangaza sana kuliko viongozi wakuu wa nchi, sasa you have to understand kuwa hiii ingeweza kuzaa kesi ya treason! against Mengi, lakini....

(1). Ushahidi ulipoletwa kwenye mahakama iliyokaa as kamati ya bunge, ukweli ulijionyesha wazi wazi kuwa Mb. Malima hakuwa na kesi kabisaa na hata kumfanya Mb. Sendeka (CCM), kuja juu kuwa ilikuwa ni waste of time and money hata kuisikiliza hiyo kesi, video za matangazo ya habari za tv za Mengi zilipoonyeshwa iligundulika kuwa Mengi hutangazwa dakika moja, na viongozi wakuu wa nchi ni dakika moja na nusu mpaka tatu,

-Now bado kuna suala la kutatanisha kuhusu baadhi ya wabunge wa CCM walioshiriki kwenye hiyo kamati ambao walikuwa wakililia kuwa Mengi ana makosa ingawa ukweli ulikuwa wazi kuwa Mengi hana makosa, hao ndio waliomfanya Spika aamue kuipeleka kesi hiyo kwa PCB, ambako ipo hadi sasa,

(2). Mengi na Manji, wote ni wachangiaji wakubwa wa CCM, lakini Manji ni mtu mwenye miguu yote miwili ndani ya CCM, na anajaribu kutumia kila njia kumuangamiza Mengi, lakini katika uchaguzi uliopita Mengi alitoa hela nyingi sana kwa CCM kuliko Manji, hiyo ni fact sio hadithi, lakini recently Manji amekuwa akitafuta kila njia kumuuumiza Mengi, kwa kuwatumia wabunge fulani anaosadikiwa kuwapa rushwa on wakati tofauti.

-Tatizo la Manji ni pamoja na kwamba sio wabunge wote wa CCM wanaomuuunga mkono na mambo yake yote, na ndio maana kesi yake ikapelekwa PCB, sasa ni wasi wasi alionao kuhusu matokeo ya PCB yanamfanya aahangaike na kujaribu kuendelea kumpaka Mengi,

Now with all that said, kwakweli I have a problem na accusations nyingi ambazo ninaziona zikitupiwa kwake Mengi, jamaa ni mfanya biashara na vitabu vyote vya Mungu duniani vinasema hakuna tajiri mwenye utajiri wa halali, na ninaamini kuwa Mengi sio malaika, lakini at the same time ni lazima ieleweke kuwa Mengi sio waziri au kiongozi wa siasa, sasa naona watu wengi wanajaribu kumu-hold Mengi kwenye same level za viongozi wa siasa, that is wrong, Mengi ana haki ya kuwapenda au kuwachukia waisilamu and it is no body's business ni yeye na Mungu wake!

Kwenye hii forum wakati umefika tuanze kuwa waangalifu na ishu za taifa na za binafsi, unless Mengi is involved na ishu za siasa au serikali, otherwise kuhusu ni dini anaipenda au haipendi, it is none of our business kwa maoni yangu. Kwa wale mnaomu-accuse Mengi so far hamna probable cause, ni hadithi tu za mtaani, kama kuna kesi za kweli zisemeni tuache majungu!

 

[KadaMpinzani]

Jamani acheni ushabiki na muweke facts hapa !!!! ushabiki baadae jamani, mwambieni huyo Mengi wenu kwanza alipe madeni ( tax) anayodaiwa na serikali na madeni mengine na huyo manji pia kama anadaiwa alipe madeni yake haraka sana hatutaki ushabiki hapa!!!! tuondoleeni ushabiki humu.

Na kwa hao ":mamluki" wanaojidai kumjua mengi na marafiki zake wa karibu haya sasa tutajie marafiki zake wa karibu maana sasa naona mnaropoka tu ! usilete kipingamizi chochote nimesema wataje hao marafiki zake, nyie ndio mnaokaa kwenye vijiwe visivyokuwa na mbele wala nyuma mkitoka hapo mnakuja kuandika humu !!

Hapana, still nakataa humjui mengi wewe mzee es !! Yaani wewe kila mtu unamjua wewe, wengine tukisema tunamjua fulani oooh mara mnamu-accuse mara hivi mara vile, acha zako wewe ! namjua mengi "wako" !!!! and thats it !

kama watajwa wote wanadaiwa walipe madeni yao wasije wakaondoka hapa duniani na madeni maana sio vizuri wakati uwezo wa kulipa kidogo kidogo wanao !!

wewe es, fanya yako ili watu wakushabikie na usiendeleze ushabiki sana kwa wengine, huko ni kujipendekeza kusikokuwa na maana !! ( naona umekuwa cheap labor wa watu maarufu bongo )

 

[William J. Malecela]

Kama Mengi anadaiwa, basi ni tatizo la wanaomdai kusema, unless kama tunamdai kwenye hii forum?

Na hivi ni tajiri gani duniani ambaye hadaiwi? Mmoja wa marafiki wa karibu wa Mengi ni Mbunge. Ndesamburo na ndiye aliyemsaidia sana kwenye hii kesi, je inajibu swali lako mzee?

 

[Ole]

Nilikuwa Siifuatilii Hii Thread, Samahani Sana Naomba Tupunguze Jazba. Najaribu Kuipitia Kutoka Mwanzo ili Niweze Kuona Kwamba Members Mnaheshimiana. Please! Tuheshimiane

 

[Dua]

Asema hata yeye kachafuliwa jina

NA MAGRETH KINABO

SPIKA wa Bunge la Jamhuri wa Muungano wa Tanzania, Samuel Sitta, amesema suala ya la kuwapatanisha Mwenyekiti Mtendaji wa kampuni ya IPP, Reginald Mengi na mbunge wa Mkuranga, Adamu Malima, litazungumzwa baadaye bungeni. Akizungumza na Uhuru jana, Spika Sitta, alisema hawezi kulizungumzia suala hilo kwa sasa kama limefikia hatua gani.

"Kama umekuja kuhusiana na suala hili, siwezi kulizungumzia, kwa sasa linaonekana kuwa ni gumu, mimi nimeshachafuliwa jina, nimeshitakiwa hadi kwenye Chama Cha Mapinduzi (CCM). "Mimi naona mtuachie tulizungumzie sisi wenyewe ndani kwa ndani kwa wakati huu, ila kwa sasa siwezi kusema lolote... tutalizungumzia bungeni," alisema Spika Sitta.

Katika kikao cha bunge kilichopita, Spika Sitta alisema angewapatanisha Mengi na Malima kwa kuwaita pembeni wakati wowote. Hatua hiyo ilifikiwa baada ya Malima kudai kuwa ITV inayomilikiwa na Mengi imekuwa ikitumia muda mrefu kurusha hewani habari zake kuliko za kitaifa au viongozi mfano habari za Rais Jakaya Kikwete.

Wakati huohuo, Taasisi ya Kuzuia Rushwa (TAKURU) imesema haiwezi kusema lolote kuhusu uchunguzi unaondelea wa tuhuma za rushwa dhidi ya baadhi ya wabunge. Awali, Mbunge wa Moshi Mjini Philemon Ndesamburo, alidai kuna baadhi ya wabunge wamehongwa ili kupindisha ukweli kuhusu mzozo baina ya Mengi na Malima. Kwa mujibu wa barua ya TAKURU iliyoandikwa na kutolewa jana na Idara ya Elimu kwa Umma, Makao Makuu ilieleza kwamba kwa sasa taasisi hiyo haiwezi kuelezea kazi inayoendelea kwa sababau za kiuchunguzi.
"Uchunguzi utakapokamilika umma utafahamishwa," ilieleza sehemu ya barua hiyo.

Taasisi hiyo ilisema taaluma ya uchunguzi ina miiko yake, ikiwa ni pamoja na kutozungumzia masuala yanayoingilia uhuru wa raia.

Kazi ipo hapo................................

http://www.uhuru.info/kitaifa.htm

 

[KadaMpinzani]

Hawa mbona upuuzi wao wanataka kuuleta bungeni ? hawajui bungeni ni sehemu yenye heshima na hadhi yake ? ugomvi wao kuongelewa bungeni utasaidia vipi taifa na wadanganyika kwa ujumla ??

spika, alichemsha, akachemsha, amechemsha, na ataendelea kuchemsha tu ! uzee huo !!

 

[Icadon]

That was very low of speaker, duh kweli mwenye nazo always atakumbatiwa...