Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

[kadoda11]

You know these Nairobi slum populations are exaggerated for Ngos to stay in business and keep the funds coming.......they have literally exaggerated all of them 10 times.................I dare any Dar resident to give .....there is an article saying 700k people in Nairobi live in informals.....but this one says 2.5 million.....the truth is that in Nairobi the slums are rarely visible even in aerial views.

kwa hiyo unataka kutuambia issue ya slum nchini kenya ni propanganda tu ya NGOs ili washawishi kutumiwa misaada?.

na kwamba nairobi haina slums?.

 

[mulisaaa]

Hehe hvi wakenya mlikosea wapi????
😀😀😀😀 Hvi binaadamu anawezaje kuishi ndani ya haya mabanda ya nguruwe infact sina uhakika hata kama huyo nguruwe ataweza kuishi

And no one cares about this. Wapo hapa wanatupa porojo za Avic towers

 

[kadoda11]

Manzese imepitia upgrading scheme ambayo pia imefanyika tandale mpaka ubungo-kibangu

Sisi Tanzania hatufanyi kumfurahisha MTU.. Tunafanya kuwasaidia wananchi kuondokana na umasikini na hali duni.

Kilichofanyika Manzase kwanza ilikuwa kuongeza accessibility.. Barabara ndogo nyingi zilikuwa proposed na zimeendelea kujengwa taratibu na serikali..

Pili kuwapimia watu viwanja na kuwamilikisha kisheria.. In return watu wameweza kukopa na kujenga majengo ya kudumu maana wana hakika na uwekezaji wao.

Tatu kumekaribisha huduma nyingi Leo kuna maofisi yako manzese .. Kuna huduma chungu mbovu za kijamii ziko.manzese.. Na nyumba kwa sehemu kubwa zinaendelea kuboreka sana.

Kwa kifupi kuona mabadiliko yake inabidi uangalie kwa ukaribu.. Lakini ni resettlement ya manzese na tandale ndio iliyo zaa sinza. Kama resettlement ya jangwani ilivyozaa mabwepande au kipawa ilivyozaa new kipawa.

Kitu kingine naona kinatuchanganya hasa watu wa battle hii tunaongelea vitu bila context. Mfano Nairobi in approx. 2.5 m people occupying only 6% of Nairobi land.

Dar has close to 70% of its land not surveyed. For lack of better terms all are called informal settlements .. But if you dig deeper ndio unajua how different we are.

The worst slums zinashida ifuatayo.. Watu hawana maeneo ya kutosha kuishi, wanakosa vyoo, hwana access roads, hawana huduma za kijamii kama shule, hospitali, masoko, Usafiri Wa umma, Umeme maji nk.. Majengo yao yamejengwa kwa inferior material..na neighborhood zao shughuli za kiuchumi sio sustainable.

Sasa hebu niambie wapi in dar pako katika hali hiyo niliyoitaja hapo juu. Without missing a single attribute. To save you time bro.. Hakuna.. Watakosa kimoja au viwili and most of times there is a room to change if investment is available..

For slums in Kenya.. 2.5m people in 6% of land means these people just to have enough land to live in.. Nairobi needs at least a quarter of its land to resettle these people. For a starter. And there after ndio waande improvement. Otherwise it will remain over crowded and slum in just better houses.

very educative analysis

 

[High Def]

Hadi wageni wanatuelewa

Abubakar Mgamba should stop licking indian ass. Why respond to stupid questions. Mibongo nayo na inferiority complex. That video shows like 4 highrise towers visible @ 3:39 which is all you have. Tena Mgamba ni tourist guide kitu gani??

 

[mulisaaa]

You know these Nairobi slum populations are exaggerated for Ngos to stay in business and keep the funds coming.......they have literally exaggerated all of them 10 times.................I dare any Dar resident to give .....there is an article saying 700k people in Nairobi live in informals.....but this one says 2.5 million.....the truth is that in Nairobi the slums are rarely visible even in aerial views.

Acha porojo 2.5 million people na hiyo ni Kibera pekeyake. Mko busy mnaimba Uhuru tano tena

 

[mulisaaa]

Abubakar Mgamba should stop licking indian ass. Why respond to stupid questions. Mibongo nayo na inferiority complex. That video shows like 4 highrise towers visible @ 3:39 which is all you have. Tena Mgamba ni tourist guide kitu gani??

Wivu unakusumbua

 

[kiwiko]

Danganya watu wengine brathe
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Sl ukiona bati unaweza ona na nyumba ilivo??,

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[ichoboy01]

Watu wanasherekea blueprint wakat sisi tunatumia pesa kufungua southern circuit
😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

 

[kadoda11]

Watu wanasherekea blueprint wakat sisi tunatumia pesa kufungua southern circuit
😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
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bado wapo kwenye kuimba wimbo wa "tz ni ldc".

wahenga husema "aliyelala usimwamshe".

 

[kiwiko]

Manzese imepitia upgrading scheme ambayo pia imefanyika tandale mpaka ubungo-kibangu

Sisi Tanzania hatufanyi kumfurahisha MTU.. Tunafanya kuwasaidia wananchi kuondokana na umasikini na hali duni.

Kilichofanyika Manzase kwanza ilikuwa kuongeza accessibility.. Barabara ndogo nyingi zilikuwa proposed na zimeendelea kujengwa taratibu na serikali..

Pili kuwapimia watu viwanja na kuwamilikisha kisheria.. In return watu wameweza kukopa na kujenga majengo ya kudumu maana wana hakika na uwekezaji wao.

Tatu kumekaribisha huduma nyingi Leo kuna maofisi yako manzese .. Kuna huduma chungu mbovu za kijamii ziko.manzese.. Na nyumba kwa sehemu kubwa zinaendelea kuboreka sana.

Kwa kifupi kuona mabadiliko yake inabidi uangalie kwa ukaribu.. Lakini ni resettlement ya manzese na tandale ndio iliyo zaa sinza. Kama resettlement ya jangwani ilivyozaa mabwepande au kipawa ilivyozaa new kipawa.

Kitu kingine naona kinatuchanganya hasa watu wa battle hii tunaongelea vitu bila context. Mfano Nairobi in approx. 2.5 m people occupying only 6% of Nairobi land.

Dar has close to 70% of its land not surveyed. For lack of better terms all are called informal settlements .. But if you dig deeper ndio unajua how different we are.

The worst slums zinashida ifuatayo.. Watu hawana maeneo ya kutosha kuishi, wanakosa vyoo, hwana access roads, hawana huduma za kijamii kama shule, hospitali, masoko, Usafiri Wa umma, Umeme maji nk.. Majengo yao yamejengwa kwa inferior material..na neighborhood zao shughuli za kiuchumi sio sustainable.

Sasa hebu niambie wapi in dar pako katika hali hiyo niliyoitaja hapo juu. Without missing a single attribute. To save you time bro.. Hakuna.. Watakosa kimoja au viwili and most of times there is a room to change if investment is available..

For slums in Kenya.. 2.5m people in 6% of land means these people just to have enough land to live in.. Nairobi needs at least a quarter of its land to resettle these people. For a starter. And there after ndio waande improvement. Otherwise it will remain over crowded and slum in just better houses.

Yes you have said it all. Large part of our city is not surveyed yet people build good homes in those unsurveyed settlements and get all required social services.

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[El Matador]

Acha porojo 2.5 million people na hiyo ni Kibera pekeyake. Mko busy mnaimba Uhuru tano tena

lol.....2.5 million to console yourselves but in reality it has 200k people......take it or leave it

 

[Junior Clinton Mr.]

s ftom dar and its stunning too i must say, for those who have been to mombasa it kina has the same feeling.impressive.

Waonyeshe wenzako waione Dar ilivyo na hapo ilikua outside CBD.. Mwishoni mwa Video ndo alikua anaanza kuingia CBD

 

[Junior Clinton Mr.]

Abubakar Mgamba should stop licking indian ass. Why respond to stupid questions. Mibongo nayo na inferiority complex. That video shows like 4 highrise towers visible @ 3:39 which is all you have. Tena Mgamba ni tourist guide kitu gani??

watch this

 

[Naton Jr]

We are going far my friends, Zambia & Congo are ours now, we have them

Meanwhile Kenyans

 

[IamLee]

IamLee

That's the JIJI LA DAR ES SALAAM

I know I was commending on the nicer part of dar too and it's similar to mombasa

 

[block q]

Wazee Kibera inatishaa
Hivi kwa nin akina Mzee Kenyatta na Moi waliruhusu uwazi mkubwa kiasi hiki kati ya tajiri na masikini. Kwa kweli ujamaa japo una mapungufu yake lakini umetupa manufaa makubwa sanaa

 

[COLLOH-MZII RELOADED]

Dar ni aibu tupu

this is crap..slums around the airport

 

[kadoda11]

madini yetu yamekamatwa kenya yakitoroshwa nje ya nchi bila kufata taratibu za forodha.

asante polisi wa kenya. ila msije mkakwiba hayo madini na kupoteza ushahidi.

 

[IamLee]

Waonyeshe wenzako waione Dar ilivyo na hapo ilikua outside CBD.. Mwishoni mwa Video ndo alikua anaanza kuingia CBD

Why are you always arrogant man. Naonyesha kuwa yeah kuna sehemu nzuri dar na bado wapiga kelele kama mburukenge, ama hukuelewa nilikuwa namaanisha nini? Sometimes unafaa kuwa rralistic pia kidogo, useme ndio kuna sehemu nzuri za hii jiji sio ati kila saa oo mko chini sijui nini... Wewe hata umeangalia hizo video za nairobi ambazo nilituma?

 

[COLLOH-MZII RELOADED]

Hii video imeonyesha kwa jinsi gani Dar es salaam haina slums. Hii ni Manzese ambayo mmekuwa mkisima ni slum.

kama hio si slums kenya haina slum