Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

[Don YF]

Ile siku utanionesha serikali ya SA ikipokea msaada wa chakula njoo tuongee [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

Umepata darasa, sasa umenyooka kilaza 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

 

[Geza Ulole]

Another biased analysis.., 2007 they stole his election, and Ruto was in the front line fighting for him, we all watched how things played out, besides 2007/2008 PEV got me in Eldoret, I know what Kalenjins did of which Raila was not party to, he did not instruct their actions, I was there, witnessed the heinous acts carried out. I interacted with my Kale friends and learned of the propaganda they were led to believe by some of their elders, it was a dark moment, wacha zako bana, Raila won in 2007 dopchinski, people were angry at what Kibaki regime and mount Kenya mafia did, the violence in most areas was a reaction.
In the previous years and subsequent ones Raila and other like minds were fighting for democracy from the autocratic leadership ya Moi, who didn't tolerate dissent views, hence violence was experienced due to the excessive force Moi's regime used on those agitating for democracy. Moi the one u praise for peace even eliminated Dr. Robert Ouko through his 'hand' Nicolas Kipyator Biwott.
In 1994, and previous years Kenya had a false peace, like it is with Tanzania ya leo, Moi was revered and feared, ukicheza unapotea without a trace. My father worked closely with Nicolas Biwott, the total man dropped my dad home severally, so am talking from what I know. You are merely vilifying Raila without facts just because u don't like him or u didn't support him, maybe it might be u don't like Luos, I never know and I am not a Luo either. Kindly study the political history of Kenya keenly, from Jomo kenyatta's regime, of course with a pinch of salt, coz u wont like what u will discover, instead of peddling rumors na hearsays.

For Raila, my opinion, his undoing and that of his father is in dishonoring authority, the reason presidency eluded them, Odinga senior disrespected Jomo in Kisumu by even stoning him, Kenyatta was furious, he didn't speak well of Jaramogi, then Raila Odinga disorganized a Ford Kenya meeting which was being chaired by his father, Jaramogi alikasirika deadly and here is where people believe Raila's curse came from.

Hope we are going to get real peace, sio ile false ya wakati wa dictator Moi, a peace which was instilled by fear. I believe ni systems zenye we as a country tume establish over time, is what has led us to where we are today not Ruto. Ruto rode on multiparty democracy which with majimbo system was fought for by Raila Odinga as much as u want to vilify him. Give respect where it is due.

Wewe mpumbavu put Tanzania out of ur dirty mouth!

 

[dopchinski]

Another biased analysis.., 2007 they stole his election, and Ruto was in the front line fighting for him, we all watched how things played out, besides 2007/2008 PEV got me in Eldoret, I know what Kalenjins did of which Raila was not party to, he did not instruct their actions, I was there, witnessed the heinous acts carried out. I interacted with my Kale friends and learned of the propaganda they were led to believe by some of their elders, it was a dark moment, wacha zako bana, Raila won in 2007 dopchinski, people were angry at what Kibaki regime and mount Kenya mafia did, the violence in most areas was a reaction.
In the previous years and subsequent ones Raila and other like minds were fighting for democracy from the autocratic leadership ya Moi, who didn't tolerate dissent views, hence violence was experienced due to the excessive force Moi's regime used on those agitating for democracy. Moi the one u praise for peace even eliminated Dr. Robert Ouko through his 'hand' Nicolas Kipyator Biwott.
In 1994, and previous years Kenya had a false peace, like it is with Tanzania ya leo, Moi was revered and feared, ukicheza unapotea without a trace. My father worked closely with Nicolas Biwott, the total man dropped my dad home severally, so am talking from what I know. You are merely vilifying Raila without facts just because u don't like him or u didn't support him, maybe it might be u don't like Luos, I never know and I am not a Luo either. Kindly study the political history of Kenya keenly, from Jomo kenyatta's regime, of course with a pinch of salt, coz u wont like what u will discover, instead of peddling rumors na hearsays.

For Raila, my opinion, his undoing and that of his father is in dishonoring authority, the reason presidency eluded them, Odinga senior disrespected Jomo in Kisumu by even stoning him, Kenyatta was furious, he didn't speak well of Jaramogi, then Raila Odinga disorganized a Ford Kenya meeting which was being chaired by his father, Jaramogi alikasirika deadly and here is where people believe Raila's curse came from.

Hope we are going to get real peace, sio ile false ya wakati wa dictator Moi, a peace which was instilled by fear. I believe ni systems zenye we as a country tume establish over time, is what has led us to where we are today not Ruto. Ruto rode on multiparty democracy which with majimbo system was fought for by Raila Odinga as much as u want to vilify him. Give respect where it is due.

i agree u are realy smart and brilliant 👏🏽

 

[NairobiWalker]

Ukishafika mahakamani tayari kuna kasoro, democracy haipo hapo, uchaguzi umevurugwa hakuna cha kujifunza

Kwa majirani wenzetu hata mahakamani hakufikiki maanake aliye uongozini ashaweka vikwazo njiani.
Alafu huku kwetu aliyeshinda alishinda na gap ndogo Sana. Kama ni mimi pia ningeenda mahakamani maanake a small human error ingekuwa na uwezo was kubadili hiyo gap.

 

[dopchinski]

Another biased analysis.., 2007 they stole his election, and Ruto was in the front line fighting for him, we all watched how things played out, besides 2007/2008 PEV got me in Eldoret, I know what Kalenjins did of which Raila was not party to, he did not instruct their actions, I was there, witnessed the heinous acts carried out. I interacted with my Kale friends and learned of the propaganda they were led to believe by some of their elders, it was a dark moment, wacha zako bana, Raila won in 2007 dopchinski, people were angry at what Kibaki regime and mount Kenya mafia did, the violence in most areas was a reaction.
In the previous years and subsequent ones Raila and other like minds were fighting for democracy from the autocratic leadership ya Moi, who didn't tolerate dissent views, hence violence was experienced due to the excessive force Moi's regime used on those agitating for democracy. Moi the one u praise for peace even eliminated Dr. Robert Ouko through his 'hand' Nicolas Kipyator Biwott.
In 1994, and previous years Kenya had a false peace, like it is with Tanzania ya leo, Moi was revered and feared, ukicheza unapotea without a trace. My father worked closely with Nicolas Biwott, the total man dropped my dad home severally, so am talking from what I know. You are merely vilifying Raila without facts just because u don't like him or u didn't support him, maybe it might be u don't like Luos, I never know and I am not a Luo either. Kindly study the political history of Kenya keenly, from Jomo kenyatta's regime, of course with a pinch of salt, coz u wont like what u will discover, instead of peddling rumors na hearsays.

For Raila, my opinion, his undoing and that of his father is in dishonoring authority, the reason presidency eluded them, Odinga senior disrespected Jomo in Kisumu by even stoning him, Kenyatta was furious, he didn't speak well of Jaramogi, then Raila Odinga disorganized a Ford Kenya meeting which was being chaired by his father, Jaramogi alikasirika deadly and here is where people believe Raila's curse came from.

Hope we are going to get real peace, sio ile false ya wakati wa dictator Moi, a peace which was instilled by fear. I believe ni systems zenye we as a country tume establish over time, is what has led us to where we are today not Ruto. Ruto rode on multiparty democracy which with majimbo system was fought for by Raila Odinga as much as u want to vilify him. Give respect where it is due.

hebu come again.... eti tanganyika wako na 'false peace' ya kufunika tu macho🙈

yani nimecheka yangu yooote! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[NairobiWalker]

Another biased analysis.., 2007 they stole his election, and Ruto was in the front line fighting for him, we all watched how things played out, besides 2007/2008 PEV got me in Eldoret, I know what Kalenjins did of which Raila was not party to, he did not instruct their actions, I was there, witnessed the heinous acts carried out. I interacted with my Kale friends and learned of the propaganda they were led to believe by some of their elders, it was a dark moment, wacha zako bana, Raila won in 2007 dopchinski, people were angry at what Kibaki regime and mount Kenya mafia did, the violence in most areas was a reaction.
In the previous years and subsequent ones Raila and other like minds were fighting for democracy from the autocratic leadership ya Moi, who didn't tolerate dissent views, hence violence was experienced due to the excessive force Moi's regime used on those agitating for democracy. Moi the one u praise for peace even eliminated Dr. Robert Ouko through his 'hand' Nicolas Kipyator Biwott.
In 1994, and previous years Kenya had a false peace, like it is with Tanzania ya leo, Moi was revered and feared, ukicheza unapotea without a trace. My father worked closely with Nicolas Biwott, the total man dropped my dad home severally, so am talking from what I know. You are merely vilifying Raila without facts just because u don't like him or u didn't support him, maybe it might be u don't like Luos, I never know and I am not a Luo either. Kindly study the political history of Kenya keenly, from Jomo kenyatta's regime, of course with a pinch of salt, coz u wont like what u will discover, instead of peddling rumors na hearsays.

For Raila, my opinion, his undoing and that of his father is in dishonoring authority, the reason presidency eluded them, Odinga senior disrespected Jomo in Kisumu by even stoning him, Kenyatta was furious, he didn't speak well of Jaramogi, then Raila Odinga disorganized a Ford Kenya meeting which was being chaired by his father, Jaramogi alikasirika deadly and here is where people believe Raila's curse came from.

Hope we are going to get real peace, sio ile false ya wakati wa dictator Moi, a peace which was instilled by fear. I believe ni systems zenye we as a country tume establish over time, is what has led us to where we are today not Ruto. Ruto rode on multiparty democracy which with majimbo system was fought for by Raila Odinga as much as u want to vilify him. Give respect where it is due.

I agree with you.

 

[Teargas]

If starvation and deaths, slums, unemployment, high inflation rate, crime, terrorism, corruption mean prosperous to you, Congratulation my brother[emoji38][emoji38][emoji38][emoji38]

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There's no difference between your reasoning and that of a warthog.

Don't you have deaths in Tanzania?
Don't you have slums in Tanzania?
Don't you have unemployment in Tanzania?
Don't you have high inflation in Tanzania?
Don't you have crimes in Tanzania?
Don't you have corruption in Tanzania?
Don't you have terrorism in Tanzania?

 

[Shebby01]

Moja ya massive flagship mega project ya uhuru 🤣

Millions of money zimeliwa hapo halafu Watakuambia wana vibrant democracy in Africa tuwaige 🤣

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Mkunya anapenda low quality siku zote

 

[NairobiWalker]

hebu come again.... eti tanganyika wako na 'false peace' ya kufunika tu macho🙈

yani nimecheka yangu yooote! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Kwani ni uongo?🤣🤣
Kumbuka siku za Moi Kenya ilisemekana kuwa top 3 most peaceful in Africa na hata hiyo ndio ilikuwa selling point yake. Wakati ametoka tunaambiwa we are nowhere among the topyet kwa ground it's the opposite.

 

[NairobiWalker]

Sasa unataka kutuambia eti Tanzania yenye haina "njaa" are more developed with a bigger GDP kushinda nchi kama South Africa yenye bado inapambana na njaa kwa hizi akili zako za "Tanzania iko na GDP ya $150B?" ulikosea wapi kilaza? mbona siku zote umebakia kuwa boya? 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
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Nani kakwambia Hanna njaa Tanzania? Kama walivyo na false peace, wana false satisfaction ya Chakula. Tanzania knows how to shut the media's mouths.

 

[dopchinski]

Another biased analysis.., 2007 they stole his election, and Ruto was in the front line fighting for him, we all watched how things played out, besides 2007/2008 PEV got me in Eldoret, I know what Kalenjins did of which Raila was not party to, he did not instruct their actions, I was there, witnessed the heinous acts carried out. I interacted with my Kale friends and learned of the propaganda they were led to believe by some of their elders, it was a dark moment, wacha zako bana, Raila won in 2007 dopchinski, people were angry at what Kibaki regime and mount Kenya mafia did, the violence in most areas was a reaction.
In the previous years and subsequent ones Raila and other like minds were fighting for democracy from the autocratic leadership ya Moi, who didn't tolerate dissent views, hence violence was experienced due to the excessive force Moi's regime used on those agitating for democracy. Moi the one u praise for peace even eliminated Dr. Robert Ouko through his 'hand' Nicolas Kipyator Biwott.
In 1994, and previous years Kenya had a false peace, like it is with Tanzania ya leo, Moi was revered and feared, ukicheza unapotea without a trace. My father worked closely with Nicolas Biwott, the total man dropped my dad home severally, so am talking from what I know. You are merely vilifying Raila without facts just because u don't like him or u didn't support him, maybe it might be u don't like Luos, I never know and I am not a Luo either. Kindly study the political history of Kenya keenly, from Jomo kenyatta's regime, of course with a pinch of salt, coz u wont like what u will discover, instead of peddling rumors na hearsays.

For Raila, my opinion, his undoing and that of his father is in dishonoring authority, the reason presidency eluded them, Odinga senior disrespected Jomo in Kisumu by even stoning him, Kenyatta was furious, he didn't speak well of Jaramogi, then Raila Odinga disorganized a Ford Kenya meeting which was being chaired by his father, Jaramogi alikasirika deadly and here is where people believe Raila's curse came from.

Hope we are going to get real peace, sio ile false ya wakati wa dictator Moi, a peace which was instilled by fear. I believe ni systems zenye we as a country tume establish over time, is what has led us to where we are today not Ruto. Ruto rode on multiparty democracy which with majimbo system was fought for by Raila Odinga as much as u want to vilify him. Give respect where it is due.

but do u want to tell me tht kenyan politics will still be the same.
as in, still hotly🔥 contested, full of tension and heated🔥 like when Raila was present.. 🤔
if yes... i think i ll not agree with u

 

[The best 007]

hebu come again.... eti tanganyika wako na 'false peace' ya kufunika tu macho[emoji85]

yani nimecheka yangu yooote! [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

Lete takwimu ya global peace index tuone.

 

[Teargas]

Cut point ni ipi ili isiwe tatizo?, Hiyo cut point imewekwa na nani na lini?. Hivi ulitegemea nchi ambayo hakuna vyama vyenye 'political ideologies" zenye kueleweka Kama Kenya kupata chama kimoja au viwili vyenye wingi wa kura?.

South Afrika, Mandela alipata zaidi ya 80% ya kura zote, unataka kusema Kenya ni "more democratic kuliko South Afrika, au kwa sababu South Afrika Kuna chama kimoja kinachokubalika zaidi kuliko Kenya.

DRC Kuna vyama zaidi ya 100 vya siasa, wakati USA Kuna vyama 2 ti vya siasa vyenye nguvu ambavyo hupata zaidi ya 90% ya kura zote, kwa akili yake ni kwamba DRC ni more democratic than USA, isn't?

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Mandela got 80% of the votes in 1994, we are in 2022 now. Ebu nitajie tu nchi moja where one presidential candidate gets 87% of the votes in this 21st Century ukitoa nchi zisizojielewa kama Tanzania, Uganda, Rwanda etc.

 

[The best 007]

There's no difference between your reasoning and that of a warthog.

Don't you have deaths in Tanzania?
Don't you have slums in Tanzania?
Don't you have unemployment in Tanzania?
Don't you have high inflation in Tanzania?
Don't you have crimes in Tanzania?
Don't you have corruption in Tanzania?
Don't you have terrorism in Tanzania?

All these you mentioned are even there in USA, so is USA a failed state like Kenya?

 

[Teargas]

But these are part of hopeless and useless countries in Africa, am I wrong?

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They are better than Tanzania in everything available except food security. Ebu nitajie tu kitu moja Tanzania inashindia Ethiopia ama Nigeria.

 

[Teargas]

All these you mentioned are even there in USA, so is USA a failed state like Kenya?

We were talking about Tanzania and not USA. Why do you want to hide behind USA while joto la jiwe is the wine who wanted to make Tanzania to be free of those?

 

[The best 007]

Nani kakwambia Hanna njaa Tanzania? Kama walivyo na false peace, wana false satisfaction ya Chakula. Tanzania knows how to shut the media's mouths.

Lini umeona Tz ikipokea msaada wa chakula au lini umeona Watz wakiuwana wenyewe kwa wenyewe tuanzie hapo kwanza [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

 

[The best 007]

We were talking about Tanzania and not USA. Why do you want to hide behind USA while joto la jiwe is the wine who wanted to make Tanzania to be free of those?

You don't have brain that's why it's hard for you to understand simple things like that.

 

[Teargas]

Hizo zote ni failed state kama nyie lkn hakuna siku serikali yao imeletewa msaada wa chakula Ikulu, ni Kenya pekee msaada wa chakula unapelekwa Ikulu.

Kenya
Ethiopia
Nigeria

All those countries mentioned above are better than Tanzania in everything except witchcraft and poverty which you have tied with Nigeria.

 

[Teargas]

You don't have brain that's why it's hard for you to understand simple things like that.

You are the only one here without brain and that's why you are a watchman.