Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

[Naton Jr]

Endless sprawling slums

 

[Geza Ulole]

Mji ambao uko well planned tunaujua kwa kuangalia aerial photograph. Huwezi kulinganisha Washington DC
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Au Konza city ambayo bado inajengwa
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Na huu utopolo wa Dar hapa chini ambapo hata nafasi ya kufanya expansion ya barabara hakuna. Manyumba yamefinyana kama nzige.
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Barabara zenyewe konde utadhani sindano halafu zimepinda kishenzi utadhani nyoka, sio straight. Halafu ukitaka kupanua barabara itabidi ubomoe nyumba za watu.

Wewe bwege nani kakuambia barabara lazma ziwe zimenyooka?

 

[Geza Ulole]

 

[Naton Jr]

I gave up

 

[babayao255]

Shithole Kenya aka walimu wetu wa city planning

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Hiyo picha ya kwanza

Ndio Ile huwa wanapiga picha vipande vipande ili kuficha hiyo slum pembeni!

 

[Naton Jr]

Hiyo picha ya kwanza

Ndio Ile huwa wanapiga picha vipande vipande ili kuficha hiyo slum pembeni!

😅😅😅 Halafu watakwambia ni kibera tu kumbe wana mzinga wa list za slums, hii ni nairobi tu

 

[The best 007]

Hivi vichaa wako kwenye likizo ?

Huyo faoro ni kichaa ni kichaa asiyejitambua kwamba ni kichaa anachoongea wala haeleweki sijui nyinyi kama mnamuelewa but mm huwa simwelewi na huwa naruka comments zake

 

[The best 007]

Ewaaaaah! Yani umegongelea msumari mahala pake huaga unaongea point Sana sema dawa za mental zibadlishwe kufanya kazi Ila basi tu
Ni kweli Sana hata mimi juzi nimeshangaa Sana kuona eti Tanzania wanaendea kujenga BRT wakati hawaitaji na BRT ya Kenya iko Sawa Sana
Hata hiyo stendi haina maana vile ni Bora serikali ya jamhuri ya muungano wa Tanzania Inge consider usafiri wa miguu,baisikeli au kusisitiza ufugaji wa punda kwa ajili ya Transportation from mkoa to mkoahata hizi meli na Geri wana introduce kushindana na Kenya si za kiwango
Najiulizanga kwani ni Tanzania ina leta treni za kisasa electric na vile ya diesel au mkaa iko Sawa
Wakenya tuko na akili Sana sema slums ndo huaga zinaturudisha nyuma

Chizi kama huyo inabidi ajibiwe hv

 

[Naton Jr]

😅😅😅 Halafu watakwambia ni kibera tu kumbe wana mzinga wa list za slums, hii ni nairobi tu

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Kwenye hii list hakuna soweto slums huko kasarani lakini kwa ground ni bigger than mathare and kibera combined

Yaani nairobi huwezi hesabu slums zote ukazimaliza hata upewe mwaka mzima

Kitu cha soweto hicho dadeq

 

[babayao255]

Halafu watakwambia ni kibera tu kumbe wana mzinga wa list za slums, hii ni nairobi tu

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Kibera iko overrated mnoo!
Hiyo mathare ni balaa

 

[The best 007]

Hio sio definition ya planning bwana. Unless unataka kujitungia definition yako ya planning. Planning ina maana hii.
1. Kabla ya makaazi kujengwa, kuna ardhi inayotengwa kando ya kujenga, barabara na road reserve pia inastahili kutengwa. Barabara hizi zinastahili kuwa straight na zinaintersect na barabara zingine at 90°. Angalia city of Washington DC utaona ninachomaanisha. View attachment 1710425Unaona jinsi barabara zina-intersect at 90°. Hapa ndio utajua kwamba hio city ilikuwa planned mwanzoni hata kabla ya ujenzi wa majumba kuanza tayari ramani ya barabara ilikuwa imechorwa. Huwa tunastahili kuanza kuchora mahali ambapo barabara itakapopitia hata kabla ya kuanza kujenga majumba.
Tazama Konza city ambayo bado ipo kwenye ujenzi. Tazama jinsi barabara zitakuwa straight na zita-intersect at 90°.
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Hivi ndivyo unavyojua kwamba city fulani ilikuwa planned na city nyingine haikuwa planned.
Halafu jambo la pili ni kuangalia ikiwa public parks, nature parks, stadia, markets, police stations, hospitals ziko well distributed katika eneo hilo au ziko upande mmoja tu. Kwa mfano cities ambazo ziko well planned unapata kwamba police station ziko katika maeneo zote na katika estate zote na hakuna estate ambayo iko mbali sana na police station. Lakini cities ambazo haziko well planned utakuta eneo fulani wana police station tatu na eneo lingine hawana police station hata moja. Hii yote tunaweza kujua kwa kutazama aerial photograph. Ndio maana nakumbia Dar isipokuwa CBD na maeneo mengine machache ya mjini, maeneo mengine ni unplanned settlement, hata hakuna nafasi ya barabara kupitia au expansion kufanywa bila kubomoa nyumba za watu. Tazama huu utopolo wa Dar, hakuna hata nafasi ya upanuzi wa barabara kupitia.
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Na kwa The best 007 unayependa kusema kwamba hio picha sio ya Dar, tazama hapa, source ya picha ni stock photos na kama unajua mambo ya stock photos basi stock photos huwa hawadanganyi kuhusu photo zao. Tazama hapa
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Sikiliza nikwambie bwana Tony, mm sijawahi kukataa kwamba most of places in Dar are not well planned hili ni jambo ambalo linanikera mno, lkn pia nakukumbusha na ww pia hili ni tatizo letu Africa nzima hata kwenu pia ni baadhi tu ya maeneo machache yako planned km unabisha basi utakuwa unajifurahisha tu cz iko wazi kwamba Wakenya wengi karibu 3/4 wanaishi kwenye mabanda ss je hayo mabanda yako planned?

Hiyo Konza city ndiyo kwanza mmeanza kuijenga na haijafika hata 1/3 ya render yake na sisi pia tunajenga Dodoma ili kuwa na miji iliyopangwa.

Btw, hizo picha unazo claim kwamba ni Dar zirudishe ulikozitoa cz Dar haina udongo wa aina hiyo.

 

[Naton Jr]

Kibera iko overrated mnoo!
Hiyo mathare ni balaa

Mathare imemeza slum dwellers kwa latest demographic information wanakimbilia 1 million

Hizi ni statistics za nyuma sana lakini utashangaa kibera inavyoonewa

Mathare ndio powerhouse yaani

 

[The best 007]

Mji ambao uko well planned tunaujua kwa kuangalia aerial photograph. Huwezi kulinganisha Washington DC
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Au Konza city ambayo bado inajengwa
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Na huu utopolo wa Dar hapa chini ambapo hata nafasi ya kufanya expansion ya barabara hakuna. Manyumba yamefinyana kama nzige.
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Barabara zenyewe konde utadhani sindano halafu zimepinda kishenzi utadhani nyoka, sio straight. Halafu ukitaka kupanua barabara itabidi ubomoe nyumba za watu.

Vp hii je ni Nairobi vp iko planned

 

[The best 007]

Sema Tanzania, sio Africa Mashariki.

Nyie ukitoa Konza upi mwingine ambao ni planned?

 

[ichoboy01]

Mji ambao uko well planned tunaujua kwa kuangalia aerial photograph. Huwezi kulinganisha Washington DC
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Au Konza city ambayo bado inajengwa
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Na huu utopolo wa Dar hapa chini ambapo hata nafasi ya kufanya expansion ya barabara hakuna. Manyumba yamefinyana kama nzige.
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Barabara zenyewe konde utadhani sindano halafu zimepinda kishenzi utadhani nyoka, sio straight. Halafu ukitaka kupanua barabara itabidi ubomoe nyumba za watu.

Konza ambayo inajengwa, hapo ilipo ina miaka zaidi ya 10 kinachojengea hakionekani 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 tuleteeni vitu vyenye dira

 

[The best 007]

Shithole nairobi the mother of slums and lowlife

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[The best 007]

Horizons of slums

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[babayao255]

Mathare imemeza slum dwellers kwa latest demographic information wanakimbilia 1 million

Hizi ni statistics za nyuma sana lakini utashangaa kibera inavyoonewa

Mathare ndio powerhouse yaani

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Hapo kwenye "Mathare is the oldest slum in Nairobi"

 

[The best 007]

Endless sprawling slums

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[The best 007]

I gave up

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