Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

babayao255 said:
Hutaki kukubaliana na ukweli kuwa Kenya ina masikini wengi ukanda huu!

The 2019 Tanzania Mainland Poverty Assessment notes that poverty decreased by eight percentage points in 10 years, down from 34.4% in 2007 to 26.4% in 2018.

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Hii chapter tumefunga.

Tukitumia international benchmark ya less than $1.90 a day:
Tanzania poverty - 49%
Kenya poverty - 36%

Unachoongea kuhusu ni TZ government poverty line ya less than $0.8 a day.
Tukishukisha poverty line yetu hadi hapo, Kenya pia umaskini utashuka chini ya 20%.

Kama unaweza elewa kingereza kasome pdf.

http://documents.worldbank.org/curated/en/431111575939381087/pdf/Executive-Summary.pdf

Poverty Incidence in Kenya Declined Significantly, but Unlikely to be Eradicated by 2030
 
Tz_one said:
Niambie ukweli..dont you think those numbers are infalted ...do you think that hospital cost is 60mil USD? What special equipments does it have ..maana majengo ya hospital dont cost much..maybe because its teaching hosp hapo sawa

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$60 million kwa hospitali unaona ni inflated?

Mashine za scan zingine huuzwa mamilioni ya dola.

Hii ni referral hospital. Kumaanisha wagonjwa waliolemewa hospitali zingine wataletwa hapa.
Mashine zitawekwa hapa kwa wingi.

Naweza kwambia $60 million sio final figure. Vile miaka inaendelea mashine zitaongezwa na kupandisha hii namba.
 
kennedy0000 said:
Ujenzi wa barabara hujawahi acha Nairobi.
Ni ile excitement ya kwanza ya Thika road ilipungua na zingine hazipewi publicity kama ya kwanza.

Outering rd
Ngong road
Parkroads
Redhill
Upperhill
Southern bypass
Northern bypass
Greater western bypass
JKIA - Westlands

Zote ziko Nairobi na zote zimejengwa baada ya Kibaki kuondoka. Google utafute picha zake.
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Sema Dar tuna deni la kulipa kuhusu highways.... tukipata at least NNE hivi sio mbaya zitazofanana na Thika au hata ile Southern Bypass
Tumeanza na Kimara-Kibaha sio mbaya ila kwa highways tuna mwendo wa kobe
Yaan inatupasa hizi giants zinazoingia Dar ziwe za maana (at least 8 lanes na kuendelea despite of BRT) af na Kigamboni kule kupo kizembe sana ile barabara ya Ferry-Tuangoma na hii ya upande wa darajani huku zinatakiwa ziwe za maana....
 
Tz_one said:
Nchi zote mbili huwa zna experience some years of trade def..it depends mmetumia data za mwaka gani

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Tangu uhuru, Kenya imekuwa mbele hadi miaka kama mitano hivi. Na hii ni sababu ya policy za Magufuli za kuzuia bidhaa zetu kuingia.
Lakini tumechukua usukani tena.

Ikiachiwa market forces bila ubishi wa serikali, kama EAC ilivyo takiwa iwe, Kenya hatuwezi shikika.
 
kennedy0000 said:
Hii chapter tumefunga.

Tukitumia international benchmark ya less than $1.90 a day:
Tanzania poverty - 49%
Kenya poverty - 36%

Unachoongea kuhusu ni TZ government poverty line ya less than $0.8 a day.
Tukishukisha poverty line yetu hadi hapo, Kenya pia umaskini utashuka chini ya 20%.

Kama unaweza elewa kingereza kasome pdf.

http://documents.worldbank.org/curated/en/431111575939381087/pdf/Executive-Summary.pdf

Poverty Incidence in Kenya Declined Significantly, but Unlikely to be Eradicated by 2030
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Jitahidini mpunguze idadi ya masikini maana mnaongoza ukanda huu,

Andika upupu wote ila mwisho wa siku utarudi hapa hapa

 
kifusi boy said:
Sema Dar tuna deni la kulipa kuhusu highways.... tukipata at least NNE hivi sio mbaya zitazofanana na Thika au hata ile Southern Bypass
Tumeanza na Kimara-Kibaha sio mbaya ila kwa highways tuna mwendo wa kobe
Yaan inatupasa hizi giants zinazoingia Dar ziwe za maana (at least 8 lanes na kuendelea despite of BRT) af na Kigamboni kule kupo kizembe sana ile barabara ya Ferry-Tuangoma na hii ya upande wa darajani huku zinatakiwa ziwe za maana....
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Ni poa mnakimbiza ujenzi sasa.
Lakini pia barabara za mitaa na suburbs ni muhimu. Sio highway tu.

Nairobi kuna program ya kutoa matope na vumbi kwenye mitaa yote. Hii haimulikwi sana na media sababu sio barabara moja, mbali ni barabara mingi za kilomita chache chache.
 
kennedy0000 said:
$60 million kwa hospitali unaona ni inflated?

Mashine za scan zingine huuzwa mamilioni ya dola.

Hii ni referral hospital. Kumaanisha wagonjwa waliolemewa hospitali zingine wataletwa hapa.
Mashine zitawekwa hapa kwa wingi.

Naweza kwambia $60 million sio final figure. Vile miaka inaendelea mashine zitaongezwa na kupandisha hii namba.
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Hio ni inflated let me tell you why

Kwanza nlikubaliana na wewe cause i thought 6 bil ksh ina include University (teaching) na equipments

2. A good building for 750 beds tena kwa kakamega sio floor nyng wouldnt cost above 1 bil ksh

3. CT Scan and MRI cost around 1mil to 3mil USD for MRI ..lets asuume mnazo 4hapo myb cT 4 hapo kila dept nimeipa CT scan which sio kitu cha kawaida kwa hospital mri 2 ...total 1bil ksh

4..Dialyisis bla blah theatres machines EtC 2bil ksh

5..Extras ..Kama lecture rooms hostel, uni tools etc ..1bil ksh

Hapo kuna kama 1 bil ksh ? Sijui but i think kuna ka hela kamepigwa hata ksh 500k ... We mwenyewe umeona majengo ya livyo

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Tz_one said:
Hio ni inflated let me tell you why

Kwanza nlikubaliana na wewe cause i thought 6 bil ksh ina include University (teaching) na equipments

2. A good building for 750 beds tena kwa kakamega sio floor nyng wouldnt cost above 1 bil ksh

3. CT Scan and MRI cost around 1mil to 3mil USD for MRI ..lets asuume mnazo 4hapo myb cT 4 hapo kila dept nimeipa CT scan which sio kitu cha kawaida kwa hospital mri 2 ...total 1bil ksh

4..Dialyisis bla blah theatres machines EtC 2bil ksh

5..Extras ..Kama lecture rooms hostel, uni tools etc ..1bil ksh

Hapo kuna kama 1 bil ksh ? Sijui but i think kuna ka hela kamepigwa hata ksh 500k ... We mwenyewe umeona majengo ya livyo

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Hio pesa ni pamoja na equipment, sio jengo tu.
Cost ya vitanda 700 (modern na hospital grade) pekee yaweza ikapita $10 million.

Kitanda moja cha ICU pamoja na mashine zake ni zaidi ya $100,000.

Aga Khan ambayo ni private na inatumia pesa zake, ilifanya expansion ya 170- bed kwa bei ya $92.5 million.

Aga Khan Hospital opens Sh9.3bn facility in Dar

Hii ni hospitali bed capacity kubwa mara tatu, na bei ya kujenga ndogo.
 
kennedy0000 said:
Ni poa mnakimbiza ujenzi sasa.
Lakini pia barabara za mitaa na suburbs ni muhimu. Sio highway tu.

Nairobi kuna program ya kutoa matope na vumbi kwenye mitaa yote. Hii haimulikwi sana na media sababu sio barabara moja, mbali ni barabara mingi za kilomita chache chache.
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Dmdp wamejenga barabarA za mitaa 200km mradi wa 5yrs since 2015 to date...
Tarura sijajua wao wamenyoosha ngap...infact barabara za mitaani Dar ni nyingi sana zenye lami kwa sasa

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