Manchester United (Red Devils) | Special Thread

[Chaliifrancisco]

Ila siyo siri , mkikosa huu ushindi wengi wenu mtaugua.
Maana mmeshaanza tambo kabisa.

Hatuwezi kuugua. Huu ushindi mnauhitaji kwa hali na mali.

It's make or break (ila kwa point of view yenu nyie mlioko Nanjilinji mnadhani ndio mawazo ya OGS na wachezaji wake kuwa wapoteze mechi kwa kutaka).

Hata kama mkifungwa ki-sport kuna game ya Burnley na Leicester nazo ni ngumu kwa City. Tunagemea City apoteze points zaidi ya 4 mpaka end of the season.

 

[Konaball]

Duh kwa mara ya kwanza katika history ya EPL Manchester United inafungwa wanaumia ni wapenzi wa Liverpool.

 

[Chief-Mkwawa]

Hatuwezi kuugua. Huu ushindi mnauhitaji kwa hali na mali.

It's make or break (ila kwa point of view yenu nyie mlioko Nanjilinji mnadhani ndio mawazo ya OGS na wachezaji wake kuwa wapoteze mechi kwa kutaka).

Hata kama mkifungwa ki-sport kuna game ya Burnley na Leicester nazo ni ngumu kwa City. Tunagemea City apoteze points zaidi ya 4 mpaka end of the season.

Liver wenyewe tia maji tia maji, when it matter the most anatokea legend anateleza. Tunamsubiria mrithi wa slippy G mechi kadhaa zijazo.

 

[Chaliifrancisco]

Liver wenyewe tia maji tia maji, when it matter the most anatokea legend anateleza. Tunamsubiria mrithi wa slippy G mechi kadhaa zijazo.

Alishateleza Andy Robertson game ya Chelsea, fortunately for us we won. Unfortunately for you who are always saying "Liverpool mechi ijayo wanapigwa" tokea mmeanza hizi ramli sisi tunateleza tu.

Three to go.


Poetry In Motion. Tralalalalaaa
We are Liverpool. The best Football Team in the World. Yes We Are.

 

[D A E M U S H I N]

Jinsi mashabiki wa Liverpool tutakuwa hiyo Jumatano.
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glory glory man utd imejaa unafiki
😄😄😄😄

 

[Detective J]

Leo lawama zote kwa pogba nani asiejua mpaka anaambiwa mazungu na madrid yanaendelea vzuri ! Haya huyo rashford kaongelewa nini ! Walopewa mkataba mpya ni haohao kina young,jones,na smalling na badala ya herrera na de gea utaona hako ka heskey kenye speed ndo katapewa mkataba

Mkuu ni kwamba hujanielewa. Pogba ni mchezaji mzuri lakin attitude mbovu. Similar to diego costa. Mchezaji mzuri yes lakin tabia mbovu.
Hawa wengine uingereza unawaponza.. na mm nilishangaa wanaongezwa mkataba kwa lipi hasa wanalojua. Toka msimu uliopita licha ya mashabiki kupiga kelele kuwa akina jones na smalling young hawafai... lakin upngoz umewapa mkataba.

Na hapa it is down to mtu mmoja mwenye kuleta madudu. Edwoodward. Huyu ndio cancer..

 

[chilubi]

Basi tusichukulie kigezo cha watu kuvaa jezi kama kigezo cha mashabiki, miaka ya nyuma ulikuwa huwezi akakuta na shabiki wa City popote mtaani na mkabishana kwamba wao zaidi au vinginevyo. Sasa hivi humu mpaka wana Uzi wao, kwanini unadhani Udinese ya Italy au Huddersfield na Sunderland ya Uingereza hawana Uzi wao humu JF (mfano wa jukwaa ambalo mashabiki wanaweza kujikusanya)

Kama unakataa evidence ya sponsorship kwa SABABU ZA LABDA mwarabu ka pampu pesa sijui, LABDA nini nini, then sina haja ya kuendelea kujadili

Unashindwa kutofautisha genuibe fans na plastic fans.

Despite Arsenal prfimance kuna watu bado ni arsenal kufa kupona, despite liverpool kukaa 20+ years with no title kuna watu bado ni liverpool, man city hana hii kitu.

Hivi wewe hujiulizi Puma kuwapa biggest deal a team that cant even fill their 30 thousand seats stadium badala ya Arsenal? Hapo lazima ujue kuwa both city na puma wapo desparate. Deals za man city zimejaa na utata na haswa Etihad deal. Hiz vitu zimevuja na infantino yumo nae. Huu ni mchezo wa city na psg. Both clubs haziwez kufanya usajili walioufanya kihalali

 

[Mc cane]

Unashindwa kutofautisha genuibe fans na plastic fans.

Despite Arsenal prfimance kuna watu bado ni arsenal kufa kupona, despite liverpool kukaa 20+ years with no title kuna watu bado ni liverpool, man city hana hii kitu.

Hivi wewe hujiulizi Puma kuwapa biggest deal a team that cant even fill their 30 thousand seats stadium badala ya Arsenal? Hapo lazima ujue kuwa both city na puma wapo desparate. Deals za man city zimejaa na utata na haswa Etihad deal. Hiz vitu zimevuja na infantino yumo nae. Huu ni mchezo wa city na psg. Both clubs haziwez kufanya usajili walioufanya kihalali

Ni ngumu timu kupoteza mashabiki, lakini inawezekana ...... Wapo mashabiki ambao wanahiari ya kuhama, lakini si wengi sana, ila wapo

Lakini kwa 100% timu ikiwa haifanyi vizuri uwanjani kwa kipindi kirefu, ni ngumu KUVUTIA MASHABIKI WAPYA, na in the long term run kama United akiendelea kumbwela hivi atabaki na mashabiki wale wale aliokuwa nao bila kuongeza na pengine atapoteza wengine kwa timu nyingine ikiwemo Man City

Unataka Arsenal apewe deal kubwa na Puma au Whoever ili akawatangaze huko Europa? City anapewa deal kubwa kama hiyo kwa kuwa Puma anakuwa ana uhakika wa bidhaa yake kutangazwa kwenye biggest stage possible, ambapo kwa muktadha huu ni UCL

Wewe unadhani kwanini adidas ameona kuna haja ya kuweka kipengele cha kuinyima United milioni £75 kwenye mkataba endapo kwa miaka 2 mfulilizo timu haitafuzu kucheza UCL, sababu ni moja tu UCL ni special tournament kwa biashara yoyote kwenye suala la marketing

So Puma wameona fursa kwa City. We unadhani kwanini Everton hawajapewa dili kubwa, au Cardiff .... Sababu ni moja tu, matokeo uwanjani

Man United yenyewe wakati inaanzishwa ilikuwa sawa (possibly imepitwa) na Leeds United, kipindi hicho ni wapinzani haswa. Lakini United kwa sasa wana fan base possibly mara 100 ya Leeds, kwanini ......? Simple, kwa sababu walipata mafanikio uwanjani kwa kipindi kirefu.

 

[chilubi]

Ni ngumu timu kupoteza mashabiki, lakini inawezekana ...... Wapo mashabiki ambao wanahiari ya kuhama, lakini si wengi sana, ila wapo

Lakini kwa 100% timu ikiwa haifanyi vizuri uwanjani kwa kipindi kirefu, ni ngumu KUVUTIA MASHABIKI WAPYA, na in the long term run kama United akiendelea kumbwela hivi atabaki na mashabiki wale wale aliokuwa nao bila kuongeza na pengine atapoteza wengine kwa timu nyingine ikiwemo Man City

Unataka Arsenal apewe deal kubwa na Puma au Whoever ili akawatangaze huko Europa? City anapewa deal kubwa kama hiyo kwa kuwa Puma anakuwa ana uhakika wa bidhaa yake kutangazwa kwenye biggest stage possible, ambapo kwa muktadha huu ni UCL

Wewe unadhani kwanini adidas ameona kuna haja ya kuweka kipengele cha kuinyima United milioni £75 kwenye mkataba endapo kwa miaka 2 mfulilizo timu haitafuzu kucheza UCL, sababu ni moja tu UCL ni special tournament kwa biashara yoyote kwenye suala la marketing

So Puma wameona fursa kwa City. We unadhani kwanini Everton hawajapewa dili kubwa, au Cardiff .... Sababu ni moja tu, matokeo uwanjani

Man United yenyewe wakati inaanzishwa ilikuwa sawa (possibly imepitwa) na Leeds United, kipindi hicho ni wapinzani haswa. Lakini United kwa sasa wana fan base possibly mara 100 ya Leeds, kwanini ......? Simple, kwa sababu walipata mafanikio uwanjani kwa kipindi kirefu.

Sijakataa kuwa mafanikio yanafaida ya kukuongezea mashabiki, lakini CITY inapoteza hadi mashabiki wake pamoja na mafanikio yote. Kikubwa nlichoona ni kuwa city inapoteza fans, na all these big spendings na izo deals ni to gain attention. Pale uwanjani wanaoenda kukaa jukwaa la city home fans wanaenda manutd fans na wengine kutizama mpira tu. Ata kuna siku city alicheza mtangazaji akauliza mashabiki watatu waliova jez za citeh kila mmoja kumbe ni shabiki wa timu tofauti. Pamoja na mafanikio yao, hata kwenye academy ya citeh kuna players wanataka kuchezea Man utd wakimaliza hapo.

City haijui kujibrand kibusiness, city is used to clean the image of the oil nations pamoja na psg yake. Miaka saba sasa inakwenda bila kuwa na mafanikio uwanjana kwa Man utd, still Utd inapata more deals than City. Hujiulizi why?

Narudia, City wapo desperate na Puma wapo ivo ivo wamekutana, Na usishangae kuwa mwarabu ameongeza hela kwenye hilo deal ili tu ahalalishe big spendings zake.

Kuhusu deal la Man utd na Adidas, wameambiwa washiriki tu UEFA champions league, so that means ata akitoka group stage deal iko pale pale hata kwa miaka minne. Hii should be enough to tell you that jamaa wanataka visibility na sio mafanikio yako tu.

Just because you are winning titles it gives you chance to negotiate. Ofcourse sponsoring the title winner has to be different from runners up.

Mpaka leo woodward anasecure better deals than Man city na tunashindana kwa nafasi ya nne tangu aondoke fergie.

Mafanikio yanakuletea fans lakini city haijapata bahati hio bado

 

[chichariton]

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Basi tusichukulie kigezo cha watu kuvaa jezi kama kigezo cha mashabiki, miaka ya nyuma ulikuwa huwezi akakuta na shabiki wa City popote mtaani na mkabishana kwamba wao zaidi au vinginevyo. Sasa hivi humu mpaka wana Uzi wao, kwanini unadhani Udinese ya Italy au Huddersfield na Sunderland ya Uingereza hawana Uzi wao humu JF (mfano wa jukwaa ambalo mashabiki wanaweza kujikusanya)

Kama unakataa evidence ya sponsorship kwa SABABU ZA LABDA mwarabu ka pampu pesa sijui, LABDA nini nini, then sina haja ya kuendelea kujadili

 

[chichariton]

Basi tusichukulie kigezo cha watu kuvaa jezi kama kigezo cha mashabiki, miaka ya nyuma ulikuwa huwezi akakuta na shabiki wa City popote mtaani na mkabishana kwamba wao zaidi au vinginevyo. Sasa hivi humu mpaka wana Uzi wao, kwanini unadhani Udinese ya Italy au Huddersfield na Sunderland ya Uingereza hawana Uzi wao humu JF (mfano wa jukwaa ambalo mashabiki wanaweza kujikusanya)

Kama unakataa evidence ya sponsorship kwa SABABU ZA LABDA mwarabu ka pampu pesa sijui, LABDA nini nini, then sina haja ya kuendelea kujadili

Leicester City, Special Thread - JamiiForums

Hapa tutakuwa tunazungumza kuhusu timu tishio kwa sasa hivi Uingereza inayocheza ligi kuu ya England Sio nyingine ni Leicester City Una chochote kuhusu timu hii Tafadhali tupia hapa Na ninaomba Moderator @jf robot Paw BAK watusaidie thread hii iwe sticky au special thread Nawasilisha

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[Don Clericuzio]

Sijakataa kuwa mafanikio yanafaida ya kukuongezea mashabiki, lakini CITY inapoteza hadi mashabiki wake pamoja na mafanikio yote. Kikubwa nlichoona ni kuwa city inapoteza fans, na all these big spendings na izo deals ni to gain attention. Pale uwanjani wanaoenda kukaa jukwaa la city home fans wanaenda manutd fans na wengine kutizama mpira tu. Ata kuna siku city alicheza mtangazaji akauliza mashabiki watatu waliova jez za citeh kila mmoja kumbe ni shabiki wa timu tofauti. Pamoja na mafanikio yao, hata kwenye academy ya citeh kuna players wanataka kuchezea Man utd wakimaliza hapo.

City haijui kujibrand kibusiness, city is used to clean the image of the oil nations pamoja na psg yake. Miaka saba sasa inakwenda bila kuwa na mafanikio uwanjana kwa Man utd, still Utd inapata more deals than City. Hujiulizi why?

Narudia, City wapo desperate na Puma wapo ivo ivo wamekutana, Na usishangae kuwa mwarabu ameongeza hela kwenye hilo deal ili tu ahalalishe big spendings zake.

Kuhusu deal la Man utd na Adidas, wameambiwa washiriki tu UEFA champions league, so that means ata akitoka group stage deal iko pale pale hata kwa miaka minne. Hii should be enough to tell you that jamaa wanataka visibility na sio mafanikio yako tu.

Just because you are winning titles it gives you chance to negotiate. Ofcourse sponsoring the title winner has to be different from runners up.

Mpaka leo woodward anasecure better deals than Man city na tunashindana kwa nafasi ya nne tangu aondoke fergie.

Mafanikio yanakuletea fans lakini city haijapata bahati hio bado

Sorry for jumping in your arguments, kuna kitu nikieleze pia kuhusu fanbase.

Man Utd amekuwa kwenye kilele cha mafanikio for almost 2.5 decades (almost 25 years), fanbase aliyoitengeneza kwa kipindi hicho huwezi kuifuta ndani ya miaka 10.

City ndo kwanza wameanza kupata washabiki, leo hii mtaani (huku Tanzania) unaweza atleast kuona watu kadhaa wamevaa jezi ya City. Ila unaweza kumaliza wiki hujaiona ya Man Utd.

Na new age wanaoanza kushabikia mpira na kuchagua timu (10 - 20 years of age) wakipewa 2 options kati ya Utd na City under no influence, 80% wataichagua City.

Na hiyo fanbase miaka kadhaa ijayo na wao watakuwa wengi na imagine some thing like other 10 years hawa watakuwa ni purchasers, City will be having a good fanbase by then.

Na kama Guardiola anaendelea kuwepo na hao scouts waliopo, City inatengeneza identity moja ya hatari sana na ya kuvutia.

Imagine, City anacheza mchezo ambao neutrals au hata fans wa timu zingine tunainjoi kuangalia, fanbase inaanza namna hiyo.

Nani anaikumbuka Arsenal ya 2003/04, 2004/05 hata ile ya 2005/06 iliyocheza final UEFA? Timu ilikuwa inavutia kiasi kwamba hata wapinzani tinainjoi kuangalia games zao.

Kuhusu endorsement: viewerships zina-determine sana ukubwa wa deal, na City kwa EPL ni one of the most watched teams, leo hii Man Utd wanakimbia kuangalia game zao.

Miaka michache nyuma ilikuwa Man Utd akicheza hata na timu gani, mabanda ya mpira yalikuwa lazima yaoneshe game ya Utd na wanajaza, leo hii kaangalie uone wanaingia wangapi.

 

[kurlzawa]

Usimfananishe Fundi Pogba na vitu vya Kipumbavu.

Tatizo la Pogba moja tu! Kinidhamu kafanana na Hawa → Balotelli, Diof na Edmundo

Unapamba mavi maua tu pogba hamfikii hata himidi mao mkame ninja

 

[kurlzawa]

Hata lukaku unamlaumu basi huyo rashford mechi kama tano sahv anaboronga tu mna muoverrate huyo angekuwa timu nyengine hata haanzi

Ukiondoa mashuti ya rashford ambayo waga anachomeka mzizi kwenye kiatu cha mguu wa kulia hana tofauti na Ayoze Perez wa Newcastle United.

 

[Mc cane]

Wameshinda kombe juzi juzi, asante kwa kuongeza ushahidi kuwa mafanikio ndio yanaleta mashabiki

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Hapa tutakuwa tunazungumza kuhusu timu tishio kwa sasa hivi Uingereza inayocheza ligi kuu ya England Sio nyingine ni Leicester City Una chochote kuhusu timu hii Tafadhali tupia hapa Na ninaomba Moderator @jf robot Paw BAK watusaidie thread hii iwe sticky au special thread Nawasilisha

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[Mc cane]

Mkuu umeongea umeongea kitu cha msingi hususani kwenye suala PERFOMANCE YA MUDA MREFU INAVYOWEZA KUONGEZA AMA KUPUNGUZA WASHABIKI

Kuna watu wanakunja shingo kwamba Man Utd haiwezi kupoteza washabiki sababu ya brand...... Mfano mtoto/kijana yupo nanjilinji huko, anaanza kufuatilia mpira wa Ulaya sasa hivi, aipende United sababu ya brand ili iweje

Hawafahamu kipindi cha mwisho mwisho mwa zama za Jose pale OT viti vikianza kuwa kwenye wazi kwenye baadhi ya mechi, wakati United inasifika kujaza watu 75,000 iwe Man anacheza na Barnsley au Liverpool ...... Sasa hii ya uwanja kupwaya wanadhani imesababishwa na nini? POOR PERFOMANCE

Hawa wanaosema brand haitashuka regardless ya performance na matokeo uwanjani hawajui hata baadhi ya mashabiki humu waliacha kuangalia game za United kwenye TV kipindi cha mwishoni zama za Jose?

Hawa watu hawajui kuwa kesho kuna baadhi ya watu humu wataacha kucheki game ya United kwa kuwa wanahisi United hawata perform. Ni vipi, performance ikiwa ni mbovu kwa muda mrefu, say miaka 5 au 10 ijayo, je United hatapoteza mashabiki?

Mwisho labda niseme, kiujumla kwa sasa bado mtaani jezi za United ni nyingi kuliko za City, ila zimepungua na za City zimeanza kuonekana. Je kwa muda mrefu hali hii ikiendekea hatuoni kwamba United power itafifia?

Sorry for jumping in your arguments, kuna kitu nikieleze pia kuhusu fanbase.

Man Utd amekuwa kwenye kilele cha mafanikio for almost 2.5 decades (almost 25 years), fanbase aliyoitengeneza kwa kipindi hicho huwezi kuifuta ndani ya miaka 10.

City ndo kwanza wameanza kupata washabiki, leo hii mtaani (huku Tanzania) unaweza atleast kuona watu kadhaa wamevaa jezi ya City. Ila unaweza kumaliza wiki hujaiona ya Man Utd.

Na new age wanaoanza kushabikia mpira na kuchagua timu (10 - 20 years of age) wakipewa 2 options kati ya Utd na City under no influence, 80% wataichagua City.

Na hiyo fanbase miaka kadhaa ijayo na wao watakuwa wengi na imagine some thing like other 10 years hawa watakuwa ni purchasers, City will be having a good fanbase by then.

Na kama Guardiola anaendelea kuwepo na hao scouts waliopo, City inatengeneza identity moja ya hatari sana na ya kuvutia.

Imagine, City anacheza mchezo ambao neutrals au hata fans wa timu zingine tunainjoi kuangalia, fanbase inaanza namna hiyo.

Nani anaikumbuka Arsenal ya 2003/04, 2004/05 hata ile ya 2005/06 iliyocheza final UEFA? Timu ilikuwa inavutia kiasi kwamba hata wapinzani tinainjoi kuangalia games zao.

Kuhusu endorsement: viewerships zina-determine sana ukubwa wa deal, na City kwa EPL ni one of the most watched teams, leo hii Man Utd wanakimbia kuangalia game zao.

Miaka michache nyuma ilikuwa Man Utd akicheza hata na timu gani, mabanda ya mpira yalikuwa lazima yaoneshe game ya Utd na wanajaza, leo hii kaangalie uone wanaingia wangapi.

 

[Bavaria]

Mapato yanamsaidia nini fans kama mimi na wewe other than owners?
Fans kama mimi na wewe Faraja yetu ni timu ishinde na sio mkwanja

Hilo suala lako Ed halitambui.

Ndio maana tunazidi kuzingua kwenye usajili.

 

[Bavaria]

Kwasababu Bado Munaendelea na Mikataba Minono iliyokuepo awali.

Subiri Hao kina Nike wamalize Mikataba ufike muda wa Kurenew halafu hamuchezi CL ndiyo utaona mziki wake.

Man United alikuwa Bingwa wa Kuuza Jezi, lakini unadhani Jezi ya Kina Rice na Sancho itauzwa kama ya Pogba?

Cristiano Ronaldo, Park JiSung, Rio, Vidic, Anderson, Nani walikuja United hawana majina.

United wakawapa majina wakauza jezi na kuvunja rekodi mbalimbali.

Jezi alizozouza Van Persie akiwa United ni zaidi ya mara mbili ya jezi alizouza akiwa Arsenal.

Tatizo sio jina la mchezaji, ila akifanya vizuri kwenye timu kubwa kama United lazima awe gumzo duniani.

Martial alivyokuwa Monaco alikuwa useless kwenye mapato ya timu, alivyokuja United amebaki historia.

Rashford angecheza Southampton angekuwa wa kawaida sana tu. Vardy angecheza United na speed yake ya kutupia angekuwa famous kuliko Lukaku.

Hivi unajua % ngapi ya mashabiki wa mpira wa miguu duniani wanashabikia United?

 

[Bavaria]

Ni sawa na MO aache biashara sasa, ndani ya miaka kadhaa ya mbeleni matajiri wanaochipukia hawawezi kumkuta sababu ya alichoki accumulate, ataendelea kuwa juu

Na United brand yake imejengwa kwa miaka mingi sana, kwa hiyo miaka 6 au 10 haiwezi kuiharibu lakini ngoja tukae miaka 30 bila premier kama ndugu zetu wa Merseyside uone kama tutaendelea kuwa juu kiuchumi

Uchumi wa timu pia unakuwa kutokana na ukubwa wa fan base, kwa sasa United ndio club yenye fan base kuliko club (football club) yoyote ulimwenguni

Matokeo yakiwa mabaya kwa miaka mingi, idadi ya mashabiki itapungua, na timu haitaweza kuvutia mashabiki wapya, idadi ya sponsors nayo itapungua na watapunguza mpunga wa sponsorship na hatimaye tutapotea kwenye nguvu ya kiuchumi

Nasisitiza IN THE LONG TERM RUN,( sio kwa muda mfupi kama miaka 6, 7 au10) tukifanya vibaya uwanjani tutayumba kiuchumi

Hii ni kweli pia kwa timu zinazofanya vizuri uwanjani, wakifanya vizuri kwa muda mrefu na uwezo wao kiuchumi unakua

Hatutafika huko.

Glazer na Ed watakuwa wameshaondoka.

 

[bilu97]

Cristiano Ronaldo, Park JiSung, Rio, Vidic, Anderson, Nani walikuja United hawana majina.

United wakawapa majina wakauza jezi na kuvunja rekodi mbalimbali.

Jezi alizozouza Van Persie akiwa United ni zaidi ya mara mbili ya jezi alizouza akiwa Arsenal.

Tatizo sio jina la mchezaji, ila akifanya vizuri kwenye timu kubwa kama United lazima awe gumzo duniani.

Martial alivyokuwa Monaco alikuwa useless kwenye mapato ya timu, alivyokuja United amebaki historia.

Rashford angecheza Southampton angekuwa wa kawaida sana tu. Vardy angecheza United na speed yake ya kutupia angekuwa famous kuliko Lukaku.

Hivi unajua % ngapi ya mashabiki wa mpira wa miguu duniani wanashabikia United?

Media ya uingereza inawapigia debe sana wachezaji wake inawapa sifa za uwezo ambao hawana baada ya kina lingard na rashford sasa angalia hudson odoi sahv nae ndo walewale wakina rashford