Chelsea FC (The Blues) | Special Thread

[Pep]

That’s ok, as long as we have the talent it doesn’t matter.

Posted by King Kai on Nov 15, 2020 | 7:52 AM

 

[Pep]

Damn

When Lampard fails, it’s because he has no tactics. When Lampard wins, it’s because of the talent of the group.

Posted by zameticulous on Nov 15, 2020 | 8:09 AM

 

[Pep]

Sadly

When someone doesn’t like you or want you they don’t see anything good you do not saying lamp is now a tactician but you can only get better especially since it is his 3rd season as a pro manager and so far so good he’s getting better by the year

Posted by Onlyrascal on Nov 15, 2020 | 9:58 AM

 

[Pep]

Lampard is still learning that's correct but it's because if a number of factors including Lampard's tactical nous that we are progressing

Guess Francois Lamparteta name might have earned him some more praise on tactics.

Posted by Sudip Majumder on Nov 15, 2020 | 12:15 PM

 

[Pep]

This

The criticism lampard has been getting since he became a Chelsea manager is ridiculous.
One good result from the likes of Ole and Arteta makes pundits and writers writing songs about them. There were like 5 articles on brilliance of Arteta when he won away at Manchester United. And they blame their board when results don’t go their way.
We forget that with Frank in charge Chelsea has spent in 2 seasons ~ spent by Manu and Arsenal each in 2 seasons.
Tierney, Pepe, Gabriel, DL for Arsenal
AWB, Maguire, Fernandes, VDB at Manu
Still it’s Frank’s job at risk and not their when we have more points than them and clearly we are better placed to challenge for the title.
English players get over hyped whereas English managers are needlessly over criticised.

Posted by RachitBlue on Nov 15, 2020 | 2:09 PM

 

[Pep]

They never rate British managers

Brendan Rodgers is the other one who doesn’t get the respect he deserves. Neither will Frank. Not until he wins a PL and maybe even then they would find a way to discredit him by crediting it to the excellence of players.

Posted by zameticulous on Nov 15, 2020 | 2:32 PM

 

[Pep]

This kind of take kind of puts you in the position to blame the coach for the failures and fail to credit him for the successes.

Sidenote, it is pretty funny how some of the people(not necessarily here) who claimed that our signings wouldn’t improve us because of Lampard are now saying that they are the only reason for our improvement especially defensively.

Posted by Majorbosslevel on Nov 15, 2020 | 1:25 PM

 

[Pep]

Good point and one might even argue that's how Zidane flourished at Real.

Posted by AsCrazyAsChelsea on Nov 15, 2020 | 10:11 AM

Yep, that's a good comparison

I do believe Zidane too is underrated tactically. Players came ahead explaining Zidane’s attention to detail that helped then defeat Juventus in the CL in 2015 or 16.

Posted by Sudip Majumder on Nov 15, 2020 | 12:17 PM

 

[Pep]

I always get the sense that Arteta is rated as a tactical genius by association.

The importance of tactics and it’s influence on the results of matches is frequently overblown. And it is rather annoying how quickly some people point to tactics as the root cause of every problem. There are so many other factors that can influence the result of a match, it seems rather lazy to put it all down to tactics.

Posted by Majorbosslevel on Nov 15, 2020 | 1:30 PM

 

[Pep]

Had Arteta came in top 4 last season with the same Chelsea squad

He would have been hailed as second coming of Jesus. This is the kind of narrative our own fans have helped make others out, you will hardly see Arsenal fans cribbing about Arteta. They can lose three matches on a trot and if they win the fourth, with a penalty, they won’t stop gushing over their manager.

Posted by zameticulous on Nov 15, 2020 | 1:47 PM

 

[lembu]

In terms of tactics, Lampard is still learning

He only has eyes for great talents. And so far, it has been more of talents from the group rather than the tactical nous of the coach that is doing wonders.

Makocha wenye uwezo kwenye tactics waliopo sasa ni wachache sana duniani nao ni

1. Jose Mourinho - MOU
2. Carlo Ancelotti kidogo
3. Diego Simeone kidogo
4. Antonio Conte kidogo
5. Nuno Espirito Santo kidogo
6. Marcelo Bielsa kidogo
7. ????

Hao waliobaki wanategemea ready made talents kwenye timu ili ifanye vizuri including hawa maarufu

1. Klopp
2. PEP
3. Lampard
4. Maurizio Sarri
5. Zinedine Zidane
6. ????

 

[Pep]

Makocha wenye uwezo kwenye tactics waliopo sasa ni wachache sana duniani nao ni

1. Jose Mourinho - MOU
2. Carlo Ancelotti kidogo
3. Diego Simeone kidogo
4. Antonio Conte kidogo
5. Nuno Espirito Santo kidogo
6. Marcelo Bielsa kidogo
7. ????

Hao waliobaki wanategemea ready made talents kwenye timu ili ifanye vizuri including hawa maarufu

1. Klopp
2. PEP
3. Lampard
4. Maurizio Sarri
5. Zinedine Zidane
6. ????

Nadhani Massimiliano Allegri ni moja ya tactical elites pia

 

[lembu]

Makocha wanaoweza kufukuzwa kibarua kabla ya Januari 2021

1. Andrea Pirlo (Juventus)
2. Ronald Koeman (Barcelona)
3. Antonio Conte (Inter Milan)
4. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer (Manchester United)
5. Zinedine Zidane (Real Madrid)

 

[lembu]

Nadhani Massimiliano Allegri ni moja ya tactical elites pia

Tactical manager mpe timu mbovu utamjua, Alegri kaifundisha Juve yenye talent kuliko timu zote za Serie A, ndio maana kwenye UEFA hakutoboa

 

[Pep]

Tactical manager mpe timu mbovu utamjua, Alegri kaifundisha Juve yenye talent kuliko timu zote za Serie A, ndio maana kwenye UEFA hakutoboa

Hili sio sawa.

Kutumia team mbovu kumpima coach tactic nounces zake?

By the way hao ma coach kufundisha team nzuri sio kitu kilikuja kama grant kwao...they earned that right.

Kama unaamini Pep, Klopp anatakiwa akafundishe team mbovu (akina Everton na mid table teams zingine?) hiyo ni biased opinion.

Carlo alifika huko Everton baada ya ku deteriorate kama miongoni mwa elites managers.

Kwa maneno mengine, sio kwamba kuna team kubwa ilimuhitaji Carlo akakataa kwa minajil kwamba anaenda kudhihirisha u tactical elite wake.

Kama umeshindwa kufahamu tactical levels za Klopp na Pep unasubiri wafike kwenye decline phase ya managerial life circle yao then team kubwa ziwapige chini watimkie huko Westham na wenzake.... you're getting it all wrong.

I can't believe ni kwa namna gani umeshindwa ku realize namna Klopp amei re define 4:3:3 with a lot of tactical inputs...ama unaiona hii 4:3:3 yake ni ile iliyozoeleka siku zote?

Pep, hii false 9 unaiona siku hizi, ilikuwepo before, lakini hakuna coach aliyewahi kuipa new breathing life kama Pep mapema 2009...with loads of tactical inputs kuifanya kuwa maarufu tena duniani baada ya kutumika miaka ya 80 watu wakai dump

Allegri, achana na Italy, unazungumzia coach aliyefika final 2 za UEFA akiwa na wachezaji kama Cuadrado.

Sasa unapozungumzia yeye kuto kutoboa UEFA, unazungumzia coach aliyefungwa final na Barca yenye inform MSN na Madrid yenye in form BBC.

Sio jukum langu, ila nakushauri ufanye home work zaidi kujua kwamba a good tactical coach anakua na indicators zipi.

Ama uanzie kwenye kufahamu kwanza tactics ni nini haswa kwenye football. Ni rahisi kuchanganya tactics na techniques japo zote zinatumika kwenye soka....well, in a single match

 

[Pep]

Nakuunga mkono.

433 ya klop
433 ya pep
433 ya lamp

Ni Mfumo 1 ila tactics tofauti kabisa na wachezaji tofauti kabisa.

Klop ukimpa Chelsea anaweza uza wachezaji waliopo akasajili wapya watakaoendana na 433 yake.

Hivyo hivyo kwa Pep na Lampard. Tactics za mwalimu ndio zinadefine ubora wa mfumo.

Naam mkuu

Hapo ndipo point ilipo, anaamini kabisa 4:3:3 ya Klopp kwa mfano, ya Pep au hata ya Arteta ni zile zile...hakuna tactics zimeongezwa humo.

Lakini pia anaamini akina Klopp na Pep kutokufundisha team mbovu ni kitu fulani wamekipata kwenye silver plate.

Hajui kwamba hiyo ni career respect ambayo walii earn.

Kwa maneno mengine, anamini CEO wa Vodacom (mfano) sio mzuri mpaka aende kuwa CEO wa small start up, ama a failed project.

Kitu ambacho hakisemi, ni kwamba huyo CEO kuna madaraja alitakiwa ayavuke on the way kufika Voda.

Hata hivyo, nadhani huyu mwamba ameongelea zaidi general knowledge kuliko actual facts.

Amenifadhaisha sana kusema hadi Klopp anatumia only ready made players.

Ameshindwa kueleza kwamba kabla ya Klopp hakuna aliyemjua Robertson na Trent.

Mane alikua hapo Soton akichukuliwa poa tu, kwamba ni mchezaji wa team ndogo.

Salah alikua ametelekezewa huko Italy na Chelsea wala hakuna aliyedhani angekua na impact aliyokua nayo...alionekana failure kwa EPL

Nani alimjua Bobby before? Well, achilia mbali kumjua...nani alijua Firmino angeweza ku excel katika completely new way ya striker kucheza? mixture ya false 9 na box to box striker?

 

[Hziyech22]

Makocha wenye uwezo kwenye tactics waliopo sasa ni wachache sana duniani nao ni

1. Jose Mourinho - MOU
2. Carlo Ancelotti kidogo
3. Diego Simeone kidogo
4. Antonio Conte kidogo
5. Nuno Espirito Santo kidogo
6. Marcelo Bielsa kidogo
7. ????

Hao waliobaki wanategemea ready made talents kwenye timu ili ifanye vizuri including hawa maarufu

1. Klopp
2. PEP
3. Lampard
4. Maurizio Sarri
5. Zinedine Zidane
6. ????

Mtoe hapo klopp anold, mane,Robertson wamesajiliwa Bei ndogo na hawakuwa Bora Kama walivyosasa

 

[OllaChuga Oc]

Yaaah katika umri wa Tammy wa sasa Giroud aliipa ubingwa wa ligi Montpelier huku yeye akiwa ni top scorer akibeba golden boot,

Sema lingine,
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[OllaChuga Oc]

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[juan david]

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