Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

chongchung said:
Wakenya hizi akili nimewapa mimi, mmeanza sasa kuichambua GDP tatizo hamnipi credits humu mnapeleka twitter 😂😂
Hapo kwenye total kilometers of paved roads Kenya nimepapenda zaidi


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I looked at Public Debts for Kenya, Tanzania, Ethiopia 2025.

Kenya US$ 100 Billion ( KShs 12.8 Trillion)
Tanzania US$ 46 Billion ( KShs 5.9 Billion)
Ethiopia US$ 51 Billion ( KShs 6.5 Billion).
Note that Public Debts for Ethiopia and Tanzania are 50% of Kenyas Public Debt.
It is difficult to tell where Kenya's KShs 12.8 Trillion was used.
I will analyse looking at major Projects the 3 Countries have undertaken since 2002 when the three has almost same Public Debts at US$ 7 Billion.
I will look at Kenya last.
Tanzania:
1. US$ 10 Billion Shs 1 Trillion 2,300km Standard Gauge Railway Dar Dodoma Mwanza Kigoma linking Rwanda Burundi DRC
2. US$ 3.6 Billion Julius Nyerere Hydro Power Plant 2115 MW
3. US$ 260 Million JPM Magufuli 3.2km Bridge Lake Victoria.
4. Dar es Salaam BRT US$ 332 Million
5. Kigamboni Bridge US$ 136 Million.
6. US$ 550 my Kinyerezi 400MW Gas Turbines
Total US$ 14.8 Billion ( Shs 1.28 Trillion)
If you consider Tanzania has built more Bitumen Roads (15,000kms versus 9,500km for Kenya), already about 50% of the Foreign Debt is accounted for.
And Julius Nyerere HPP was funded largely from Exchequer. Similarly more than 50% of SGR was funded from Exchequer.

Ethiopia:
1. US$ 5 Billion Grand Renaissance Dam 5150 MW
2. US$ 4 Billion 750 km Addis Djibouti Electrified SGR
3. US$ 1.7 Billion Awash Woldia SGR 425 km
4. You can't ignore Ethiopian Airlines, one of the biggest in the World with 150 Aircraft with 70 Wide Body Aircraft 100% Govt owned. At US$ 250 Million each, that is at a minimum US$ 20 Billion
US$ 12.7 Billion KShs 2.66 Trillion.
Again already about 50% of the Public Debt is accounted for.
And they can even fund GERD US$ 5 Billion from Exchequer.
Kenya
1. US$ 3.26 Billion 600km SGR Mombasa Suswa 2. Olkaria Power Stations US$ 1.3 Billion
3. US$ 360 40km Thika Superhighway
4. US$ 800 Nairobi Expressway
5. US$ 400m Dongo Kundu 17km
Total US$ 6.12 KShs 783 Billion.
When you compare with Shs 12.8Trilliin Debt,bthus is a mere 6% you can see.
I can't think of a Major Project the size of Julius Nyerere HPP or GERD in Ethiopia that Kenya has funded from internal resources the last 25 years.

Remember Kenya has borrowed KShs 6.4 Trillion more than either of those two countries.
Moreover Tanzania has 15,000 km Bitumen Roads more than Kenya at 9,500km
The ex Pres. Uhuru Kenyatta opined that about KShs 2B ( US$ 17 million) was being stolen everyday during his tenure. It is not far from the truth.
If you consider Tanzania is almost double the size of Kenya and people live everywhere.
Kenya, we live in only 30% of the Country. So Tanzania has more Roads, Population and Public services compared to Kenya.
Ideally Kenya's annual Budget should be half of Tanzania.
Instead it is 1.5 times bigger
That is about Shs 1 Trillion 'lost' annually.

This problem started after 2002 because the Public Debts were the same in the 3 Countries at US$ 7 Be each.
The mistake in Kenya is probably the choice of Political System. We chose Democracy where the one who does a better public circus gets elected. So you can end up with more than 90% of elected representatives with a dubious background who can lead a country into the abyss.
Unlike Ethiopia and Tanzania who tend to have Technocratic high quality leadership because of their Socialist past.
And today, Kenya cannot do any minor Project without borrowing.
And we are still promoting PPPs as if it is free money.
Useless PPPs like Motor Vehicle Inspections, Speed Cameras, Africa50, Adani etc
So long as Foreigners are doing the PPPs, it is a burden on the KShs and they will have to be paid in US$ FOREX.
Kenya needs now to start thinking about whether the choices of Democracy and Devolution were a mistake.
At the moment, Kenya's future is bleak and nobody seems to have a clue on how to reverse.
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Wameanza kuamka! BTW refinery at Tanga will be a nail on their coffin!

Meanwhile Ethiopia inawageuka!

View: https://x.com/BusInsiderSSA/status/2058195799704469524
 
kennedy0000 said:
Why do you ujamaa sheeple love naming things after your former oppressors.
Even the current president is already naming big things after herself.

I'm proud to say that after Moi fucked us up, Kibaki set a precedent that has continued.
If we'll name big sh*t after you, it's after you die.
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4. Dr. James Emman Kwegyir Aggrey - Ghanaian, Kuna mtaa wa Aggray Kariakoo
5. Barabara ya Samora Machel (Dar es Salaam/Arusha)
6. Barabara ya Kwame Nkrumah (Dar es Salaam)
7. Barabara ya Jomo Kenyatta (Mwanza/Arusha)
8. Barabara ya Robert Mugabe (Dar es Salaam - Tabata/Msewe)
9. Kambi ya Jeshi ya Silaha za Nyuklia na Kemikali ya Kim Phung (Monduli) - Shujaa wa vita wa Vietnam (Kim Phung)
10. Barabara ya Kenneth Kaunda (Dar es Salaam)
11. Barabara ya Oginga Odinga (Mwanza)
12. Barabara ya Haile Selassie (Dar es Salaam / Arusha)
13. Barabara ya Albert Luthuli (Dar es Salaam Inapita karibu na maeneo ya Ikulu) - Mwafrika wa kwanza kushinda Tuzo ya Amani ya Nobel.
14. Barabara ya Patrice Lumumba (Dar es Salaam / Dodoma / Mwanza)
15. Barabara ya Abdel Nasser (Dar es Salaam)
16. Barabara ya Indira Gandhi (Dar es Salaam)
17. Barabara ya Mahatma Gandhi (Dar es Salaam)
18. Barabara ya Eduardo Mondlane (Dar es Salaam)
19. Barabara ya Agostinho Neto (Dar es Salaam)
20. Barabara ya Marcus Garvey (Dar es Salaam)
21. Shule ya Sekondari ya Fidel Castro (Pemba, Zanzibar)

Orodha ni ndefu sana. Hapo nimekupatia barabara tu sijakuwekea shule, Taaisis, Majengo nk.
Acha ushamba jifunze historia ya nchi za watu
 
kennedy0000 said:
Why do you ujamaa sheeple love naming things after your former oppressors.
Even the current president is already naming big things after herself.

I'm proud to say that after Moi fucked us up, Kibaki set a precedent that has continued.
If we'll name big sh*t after you, it's after you die.
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wewe nyoko kenyatta, Moi na kibaki majina yao yako kwenye vitu vingapi ukunduni? Hata kuna mtaa unaitwa Kilimanjaro road Nairobi! r we ur masters?
 
Geza Ulole said:
Wameanza kuamka! BTW refinery at Tanga will be a nail on their coffin!
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They're fed up with their paper economy lakini they're too lazy to discover it this late 😂😂 from now on they will be walking on the shadows of their past slumber, wanafikiri hii hali mbaya ya uchumi wao ni ruto kaleta kumbe ni generational economic havoc walioifumbia macho sababu ya siasa zao za ukabila
 
President of China said:
4. Dr. James Emman Kwegyir Aggrey - Ghanaian, Kuna mtaa wa Aggray Kariakoo
5. Barabara ya Samora Machel (Dar es Salaam/Arusha)
6. Barabara ya Kwame Nkrumah (Dar es Salaam)
7. Barabara ya Jomo Kenyatta (Mwanza/Arusha)
8. Barabara ya Robert Mugabe (Dar es Salaam - Tabata/Msewe)
9. Kambi ya Jeshi ya Silaha za Nyuklia na Kemikali ya Kim Phung (Monduli) - Shujaa wa vita wa Vietnam (Kim Phung)
10. Barabara ya Kenneth Kaunda (Dar es Salaam)
11. Barabara ya Oginga Odinga (Mwanza)
12. Barabara ya Haile Selassie (Dar es Salaam / Arusha)
13. Barabara ya Albert Luthuli (Dar es Salaam Inapita karibu na maeneo ya Ikulu) - Mwafrika wa kwanza kushinda Tuzo ya Amani ya Nobel.
14. Barabara ya Patrice Lumumba (Dar es Salaam / Dodoma / Mwanza)
15. Barabara ya Abdel Nasser (Dar es Salaam)
16. Barabara ya Indira Gandhi (Dar es Salaam)
17. Barabara ya Mahatma Gandhi (Dar es Salaam)
18. Barabara ya Eduardo Mondlane (Dar es Salaam)
19. Barabara ya Agostinho Neto (Dar es Salaam)
20. Barabara ya Marcus Garvey (Dar es Salaam)
21. Shule ya Sekondari ya Fidel Castro (Pemba, Zanzibar)

Orodha ni ndefu sana. Hapo nimekupatia barabara tu sijakuwekea shule, Taaisis, Majengo nk.
Acha ushamba jifunze historia ya nchi za watu
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All this but we still have Samia Suluhu all over the place.
 
kennedy0000 said:
Sababu, number 1, your ujamaa government does not need to buy any land . And number 2, it cost $220 million not $400m.
Na Mombasa sio Dodoma ghost desert. Hatukuwa tunajenga kwenye hakuna chochote na hakuna hope ya kupata chochote in 50 years. We had to demolish and compensate.
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Na mnajiita mna akili na wasomi? You had to demolish because your seniors had long term cupcake-sized prospective brains, Dar inapanua barabara zake lakini hawavunji nyumba sababu seniors wetu walikua na mawazo mapana ya kesho

Angalia hii reserve ya Dodoma hata 10 lanes fit in this reservation swiftly na huu ndio usomi sio wenu wa slums na ndio maana hii 6 lanes 32km itacost way below your 20km 12 lanes road project if you have any
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President of China said:
Not true. Umeandika uongo.
Kwa utaratibu wetu Tanzania kiongozi anapokuwa madarakani anazungumzwa sana. Huo ni utaratibu wetu

Unaweza ukanipatia Vitu 10 ambavyo vimetajwa kwa jina la Samia? Maana kwa sasa Tanzania tupo na miradi zaidi ya 100,000
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Nikupatie vitu we mwenyewe unajua.
 
President of China said:
Not true. Umeandika uongo.
Kwa utaratibu wetu Tanzania kiongozi anapokuwa madarakani anazungumzwa sana. Huo ni utaratibu wetu

Unaweza ukanipatia Vitu 10 ambavyo vimetajwa kwa jina la Samia? Maana kwa sasa Tanzania tupo na miradi zaidi ya 100,000
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mimi hawa mbwa wanani-bore na kujifanya wapo civilized!
 
chongchung said:
Na mnajiita mna akili na wasomi? You had to demolish because your seniors had long term cupcake-sized prospective brains, Dar inapanua barabara zake lakini hawavunji nyumba sababu seniors wetu walikua na mawazo mapana ya kesho

Angalia hii reserve ya Dodoma hata 10 lanes fit in this reservation swiftly na huu ndio usomi sio wenu wa slums na ndio maana hii 6 lanes 32km itacost way below your 20km 12 lanes road project if you have any View attachment 3594018
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Hambomoi Dar juu hakuna chochote cha kubomoa
 
nairobae said:
Unabishana na watu wana barabara zinakaa hivi, wewe ni wazimu. Hizi huko bongoslum mutazijumulisha mutuambie muna kilometer elfu moja. 😂 😂 😂 😂


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Barabara moja tu inaoneshwa miaka 9 sasa. Hakuna barabara nyingine?
 
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