Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

TZ yaendelea kuwa darasa Africa,karibu kenya mjifunze
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Hii kitu itafanya lumumba wajitahidi phase zinazokuja ziende faster nadhan...
 
kakalie kuti kavu maana ulishindwa kuthibitisha 500k kwa kuniletea official source 😀😀😀😀
Mwarabu......Zanzibar port ata 10000 tonnes haifiki..tanga 450000 dar 12 million ....Tanzania combined 13.8 million..Mombasa 28 million...mlirogwa nini?
 
Hahaha ilikua raha kukaa na hao jamaa...hawana sumu Hawa tunaenda nao sawa tu!!
Ilikua raha sana.. Walinifundisha vitu vingi ikiwemo rugby na kupenda reggae. Mm nimekaa na watu wa E.A wote hadi wa Sudan. Kenyans are the only people we have alot in common.
 
Patriotism aside, I think what Kenyans need to emulate from Tanzanians because they have done exemplary well is the issue of nationalism. It is easier in Tanzania for any leader/person to rise to the highest public office in the land regardless of his ethnicity. Tanzanians have also a sense of nationhood as opposed to Kenyans, they consider and judge themselves Tanzanians. In Kenya people declare allegiance to their tribe first then the country next and we majorly vote along ethnic lines "mtu wetu" ,regardless of an individual's performance. That is the reason we have bad leadership. Kenya's leadership also need to a learn a thing from Magufuli with regards to fighting corruption menace. Magufuli may have his other weakness which i need not to highlight but I think Uhuru ought to borrow lessons from him with regards to fighting corruption. As for Tanzania, they need to avoid protectionist policies with regard to economic management and welcome all the investors (including Kenyans) with open arms. This is the surest way you can develop your country by taking advantage of smart minds from the outside. The economy must also be structured to be private driven rather than government led, that is a model for success of any country's economy. If i was to judge east african states the only president i admire personally is kagame of Rwanda despite all the negativity he may have such as issues to deal with human rights and democracy-overstaying in power (there is no leader with weakness). But i think Kagame is the only president in East Africa if not in Africa who seem to have a definite vision for his country. Maybe the reason could be because he has tasted effects of bad leadership since he was a refugee in Uganda. For Africa and specifically Kenya my home country to develop and go forward we need visionary and firm leaders like Kagame. In conclusion i think we have a lot to learn from each other in order to lift our countries from third world nations to first world nations. We should shift away our excuse and blame mentality whereby we blame the whites for our own created problems and tackle our issues head on. We must resist corruption, impunity, tribalims, divisiveness and favoritism in order for our countries to excel.
 
Ilikua raha sana.. Walinifundisha vitu vingi ikiwemo rugby na kupenda reggae. Mm nimekaa na watu wa E.A wote hadi wa Sudan. Kenyans are the only people we have alot in common.
Haha true say ,ndio maana tuko nao hapa jamvini siku zote! !
zimwi likujualo...
 
Sasa matusi ya nini katika jamii ya watu waliostaarabika? Ndio tatizo lenu wabongo,baadhi mna midomo michafuuuu. Matusi tuu ndo mnayoyaweza badala kubishana kwa hoja. Just a reminder, I'm entitled to my own opinion. No hard feelings
Ka we mbongo ungesema ndio tatizo letu wabongo sio lenu...hahahahah Umekamatika mzee
 
Dar na Nairobi kila mmoja ana weakness na strength zake.. Afu naona picha mnazotupia humu ni ile za sehemu nzuri nzuri tuu na ziko edited balaa. Nai kuna uzuri wake, wako na shopping malls za kutosha, migahawa mingi sana na mizuriii, afu wakenya wana utaratibu mzuri sana wananunua mahitaji supermarket, so hakuna viduka duka vya mangi ile kila kona. Afu pia wako na utaratibu mzuri mnoooo wakati wa jioni kwenye kupanda manyanga (bongo tunaita daladala) , wanapanga foleni wa hakuna kugombaniana usafiri kama wendawazimu. Nairobi kuna gardens na park zenye space ya kutosha zile watu wanaeza chill jua likiwakomesha after hustles za hapa na pale. Nai wana flyovers za magari na za waenda kwa miguu nyingi nyingi kiasi.
Dar kuna mradi wa RBT, kuna coco beach.
Ila all in all tukiacha ushabiki shabiki ule wa kila mwamba ngoma ngozi huvutia kwake... Nai wameipiga bao Dar kinamna flani hiviii....
No hard feelings
ndg mwana jf na mtanzania mwenzangu(hata kama siyo mtz),
karibu sana katika thread yetu pendwa.

kuna comment moja muhimu sana miezi miwili iliyopita nilimjibu member mmoja wa jf aliyekuwa na mtazamo kama wako kuhusu nairobi vs dar es salaam.

nai-repost kwaajiri yako.
hii hapa chini
ni kweli dar haifikii nairobi hilo halina ubishi na wala hakuna mtz anayebisha.

ila jambo moja muhimu ni kwamba with rapid changes that we have been witnessing within a short time,dar is catching up very fast,dar ipo katika progress nzuri ya kuifikia nairobi na hata kuipita.

hapo ndio kwenye mantiki ya mjadala huu. na katika mantiki hiyohiyo,ndio sababu unaona wakenya karibia wote wa jf wame-shift concentration yao yote kwenye thread hii kuliko thead yoyote hapa jf maana tayari dar ina-click katika bongo zao.dar inawapa hofu.

na katika mantiki hiyo hiyo, kumefanya thread hii kuwa moja kati ya thread bora inayofatiliwa sana na wasomaji kiasi cha kuwa na namba kubwa ya views kuzidi thread yoyote iliyowahi kuanzishwa katika jukwaa la kenyaforum.
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kwa mantiki hiyo hiyo ndio kuna fanya thread hii iwe ina-trend kwa mwaka mzima tangu ilipoanzishwa mwezi january 2017.Nina hakika ita-trend mwaka wote wa 2018.

haya yote ni kwasababu dar ni game changer...dar ndio imefanya hii thread ifike hapa ilipo...hata wewe mwenyewe una-comment hapa kwasababu in one way or the other, you are being influenced by dar...so usiidharau dar "msee"
 
Patriotism aside, I think what Kenyans need to emulate from Tanzanians because they have done exemplary well is the issue of nationalism. It is easier in Tanzania for any leader/person to rise to the highest public office in the land regardless of his ethnicity. Tanzanians have also a sense of nationhood as opposed to Kenyans, they consider and judge themselves Tanzanians. In Kenya people declare allegiance to their tribe first then the country next and we majorly vote along ethnic lines "mtu wetu" ,regardless of an individual's performance. That is the reason we have bad leadership. Kenya's leadership also need to a learn a thing from Magufuli with regards to fighting corruption menace. Magufuli may have his other weakness which i need not to highlight but I think Uhuru ought to borrow lessons from him with regards to fighting corruption. As for Tanzania, they need to avoid protectionist policies with regard to economic management and welcome all the investors (including Kenyans) with open arms. This is the surest way you can develop your country by taking advantage of smart minds from the outside. The economy must also be structured to be private driven rather than government led, that is a model for success of any country's economy. If i was to judge east african states the only president i admire personally is kagame of Rwanda despite all the negativity he may have such as issues to deal with human rights and democracy-overstaying in power (there is no leader with weakness). But i think Kagame is the only president in East Africa if not in Africa who seem to have a definite vision for his country. Maybe the reason could be because he has tasted effects of bad leadership since he was a refugee in Uganda. For Africa and specifically Kenya my home country to develop and go forward we need visionary and firm leaders like Kagame. In conclusion i think we have a lot to learn from each other in order to lift our countries from third world nations to first world nations. We should shift away our excuse and blame mentality whereby we blame the whites for our own created problems and tackle our issues head on. We must resist corruption, impunity, tribalims, divisiveness and favoritism in order for our countries to excel.
 
washirikina wa dunia...hapo mmehitimu bro😀😀vipi kuhusu daktari wa Loliondo?😀😀

umesahau kwamba huyo mzee alisababisha misafara mikubwa ya wakenya wenye matatizo mbalimbali ya kiafya waliovuka boda kuja tz kufata huduma yake.

ngoja nitakuwekea uthibitisho.
 
ndg mwana jf na mtanzania mwenzangu(hata kama siyo mtz),
karibu sana katika thread yetu pendwa.

kuna comment moja muhimu sana miezi miwili iliyopita nilimjibu member mmoja wa jf aliyekuwa na mtazamo kama wako kuhusu nairobi vs dar es salaam.

nai-repost kwaajiri yako.
hii hapa chini
ni kweli dar haifikii nairobi hilo halina ubishi na wala hakuna mtz anayebisha.

ila jambo moja muhimu ni kwamba with rapid changes that we have been witnessing within a short time,dar is catching up very fast,dar ipo katika progress nzuri ya kuifikia nairobi na hata kuipita.

hapo ndio kwenye mantiki ya mjadala huu. na katika mantiki hiyohiyo,ndio sababu unaona wakenya karibia wote wa jf wame-shift concentration yao yote kwenye thread hii kuliko thead yoyote hapa jf maana tayari dar ina-click katika bongo zao.dar inawapa hofu.

na katika mantiki hiyo hiyo, kumefanya thread hii kuwa moja kati ya thread bora inayofatiliwa sana na wasomaji kiasi cha kuwa na namba kubwa ya views kuzidi thread yoyote iliyowahi kuanzishwa katika jukwaa la kenyaforum.
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kwa mantiki hiyo hiyo ndio kuna fanya thread hii iwe ina-trend kwa mwaka mzima tangu ilipoanzishwa mwezi january 2017.Nina hakika ita-trend mwaka wote wa 2018.

haya yote ni kwasababu dar ni game changer...dar ndio imefanya hii thread ifike hapa ilipo...hata wewe mwenyewe una-comment hapa kwasababu in one way or the other, you are being influenced by dar...so usiidharau dar "msee"
Asante sana kwa info hii ndugu yangu... Mimi ni MTz na I wish Dar ije kuwa hata kama NY. Nafurahi sana ninapoona mtu unajibu kwa hoja namna hii. Nilichofanya mimi ni ku share opinions zangu. Na ndo maana mwanzo kabisa nikasema kila sehemu kuna uzuri wake na ubaya wake pia.
Mimi naamini kuwa Mtanzania hakunizuii kuisifia Nairobi and vice-versa.
Yani natamani Dar yoote iwe kama posta kule. Naamini tutafika tuu lakini
 
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