Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

[Teargass]

Vipi mnaenda kuzalisha umeme kwa jirani wakati kwako bado huna umeme wa kutosha?, then unarudi kwa jirani huyo huyo kununua umeme huohuo uliomjengea wewe

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Kenya has excess power.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Nani amekuambia kwamba hatujitoshelezi? Hii ni agreement ya kununua umeme ya ziada kutoka Ethiopia pale tutakapohitaji. Kwa mfano wakati wa kiangazi hydroelectric power stations huwa hazizalishi umeme wa kutosha. Kwa habari yako Kenya tuna surplus electricity, yaani tunajitosheleza. Hii ya Ethiopia ni kwa ajili ya kujipanga wakati itakapohitajika. Pia tunapanga kuondoa thermal power (diesel) from our grid kwa sababu ni expensive. Sasa hii ya Ethiopia itasaidia kuziba gap hio baada ya thermal power kuondolewa kwa grid.

Kwanini Ethiopia ndio isinunue umeme toka Kenya kwasababu Ethiopia ndiyo inayotegemea umeme wa maji ambao ndio unaopungua kipindi cha kiangazi lakini Geothermal haitetereki?.

Ukisoma hiyo "article", imesema wazi kwamba Kenya imesaini ununuzi wa "cheap" electricity from Ethiopia, the key factor hear is the cost, your Geothermal electricity is not economical.

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[joto la jiwe]

kenya has surplus electricity as we currently speak and there also other power projects that have not yet been connected to the grid.

The problem is the price per unit, your electricity is very expensive, not economical for manufacturing sector

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[Tony254]

Vipi mnaenda kuzalisha umeme kwa jirani wakati kwako bado huna umeme wa kutosha?, then unarudi kwa jirani huyo huyo kununua umeme huohuo uliomjengea wewe

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Tuna umeme wa kutosha. Wacha kulazimisha uongo wako hapa. Tuna surplus electricity. Hata ukidanganya hio haitobadilisha ukweli huo.

 

[nairobae]

Kwahiyo tumekubaliana East Africa nzima footbridge yenye elevator ipo moja tu, dahh kweli Africa bado sana

Wewe soja wacha ushamba. Elevator kwa footbridge ni kitu ya kutupigia kelele. GTC ikonayo na sio ya vilema kama hio yenu kwa hospitali.

 

[Tony254]

Kwanini Ethiopia ndio isinunue umeme toka Kenya kwasababu Ethiopia ndiyo inayotegemea umeme wa maji ambao ndio unaopungua kipindi cha kiangazi lakini Geothermal haitetereki?.

Ukisoma hiyo "article", imesema wazi kwamba Kenya imesaini ununua wa "cheap" electricity from Ethiopia, the key factor hear is the cost, your Geothermal electricity is not economical.

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Geothermal inasupply 40-50% of Kenya's electricity. Kenya bado tunategemea hydro kwa sana. Kwa hivyo Kiangazi lazima ituaffect. By the way kiangazi pia huwa inaaffect Ethiopia na hata Tanzania kwenye uzalishaji wa umeme sio Kenya tu. Nyie miezi michache iliyopita mlisumbuka kuzalisha umeme wa kutosha kwa sababu ya kiangazi. Ethiopia pia last year walikuwa na shida hio.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Kenya has excess power.

Why do you want a to buy from Ethiopia?

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[Tony254]

Kwanini Ethiopia ndio isinunue umeme toka Kenya kwasababu Ethiopia ndiyo inayotegemea umeme wa maji ambao ndio unaopungua kipindi cha kiangazi lakini Geothermal haitetereki?.

Ukisoma hiyo "article", imesema wazi kwamba Kenya imesaini ununua wa "cheap" electricity from Ethiopia, the key factor hear is the cost, your Geothermal electricity is not economical.

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Hydro ni 4 US cents per kwh. Geothermal ni 8 US cents per kwh. Sasa sijui unaropokwa ropokwa nini hapa. Linganisha na Thermal (diesel) ambayo ni around 25 US cents per kwh. Hujui unachozungumzia wewe.

Wewe na Geza Ulole huwa mnasema kwamba geothermal ni expensive. Hamjui mnachozungumzia.

 

[Marcelly]

 

[Marcelly]

 

[Marcelly]

 

[joto la jiwe]

Tuna umeme wa kutosha. Wacha kulazimisha uongo wako hapa. Tuna surplus electricity. Hata ukidanganya hio haitobadilisha ukweli huo.

Ukweli ni kwamba umeme wa Kenya ni Bei juu ukilinganisha na Ethiopia na Tanzania, huo wa Geothermal mtaachana nao na kununua toka Ethiopia na Tanzania, otherwise your manufacturing sector will collapse.

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[Marcelly]

 

[joto la jiwe]

Hydro ni 4 US cents per kwh. Geothermal ni 8 US cents per kwh. Sasa sijui unaropokwa ropokwa nini hapa. Linganisha na Thermal (diesel) ambayo ni around 25 US cents per kwh. Hujui unachozungumzia wewe.

Wewe na Geza Ulole huwa mnasema kwamba geothermal ni expensive. Hamjui mnachozungumzia.

Which one is the cheapest?, Hakuna mtu atakubal kulipa $8 wakati Kuna alternative ya kulipia $4.

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[Marcelly]

 

[joto la jiwe]

Geothermal inasupply 40-50% of Kenya's electricity. Kenya bado tunategemea hydro kwa sana. Kwa hivyo Kiangazi lazima ituaffect. By the way kiangazi pia huwa inaaffect Ethiopia na hata Tanzania kwenye uzalishaji wa umeme sio Kenya tu. Nyie miezi michache iliyopita mlisumbuka kuzalisha umeme wa kutosha kwa sababu ya kiangazi. Ethiopia pia last year walikuwa na shida hio.

Hizi dams za Ethiopia na Tanzania zikianza kazi, hakutokuwepo tena Hilo tatizo la kupungua kwa umeme kipindi cha kiangazi.



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[Tony254]

Which one is the cheapest?, Hakuna mtu atakubal kulipa $8 wakati Kuna alternative ya kulipia $4.

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Hakuna tofauti kubwa kati ya 4 US cents na 8 US cents. Kinachofanya umeme wa Kenya kuwa expensive sio geothermal bali ni thermal power (diesel) ambayo ni around 25 US cents per kwh ambayo tunataka kuiondoa kwa grid yetu ili bei ya umeme irudi chini. Wewe endelea kuropokwa kuhusu geothermal. Geothermal is the second cheapest energy source in Kenya.

Cc Geza Ulole

 

[Tony254]

Hizi dams za Ethiopia na Tanzania zikianza kazi, hakutokuwepo tena Hilo tatizo la kupungua kwa umeme kipindi cha kiangazi.



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Sisi tukipata tatizo la kupungua kwa umeme wakati wa kiangazi tutanunua kutoka Ethiopia sio Tanzania. Tayari tumeshatia saini mpango huo wa kununua umeme kutoka Ethiopia.

 

[Marcelly]

 

[joto la jiwe]

Hakuna tofauti kubwa kati ya 4 US cents na 8 US cents. Kinachofanya umeme wa Kenya kuwa expensive sio geothermal bali ni thermal power (diesel) ambayo ni around 25 US cents per kwh ambayo tunataka kuiondoa kwa grid yetu ili bei ya umeme irudi chini. Wewe endelea kuropokwa kuhusu geothermal. Geothermal is the second cheapest energy source in Kenya.

Cc Geza Ulole

Wewe mwenyewe imesema kwamba gharama ya umeme wa Geothermal ni $8 wakati ule wa maji ni $4, Sasa huo wa Diesel unaingiaje tena?.

Hii maana yake ni kwamba ukichukulia gharama za umeme pekee, viwanda vya Kenya vitatumia mara mbili ya gharama kuliko viwanda vya Tanzania/Ethiopia, hii ni 100% tofauti ya gharama bado unasema tofauti sio kubwa, are you serious?

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