Liverpool FC (The Reds) | Special Thread

Liverpool FC (The Reds) | Special Thread

After first 16 PL games as Liverpool manager:

Roy Hodgson: 22 pts
Brendan rodgers: 22 pts
Jurgen Klopp: 22 pts


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I'll always be behind Jurgen to when he'll stop being our Manager...

kama niliweza kuwa behind mediocre championship manager in BR,I can't see myself not supporting world class manager Jurgen Klopp

Matatizo tuliyonayo hayajawahi kusababishwa na JK..

those mediocre,average players tuliojaza pale kwenye lineup,hakuna signing hata moja ya JK..

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@MosDef,Tisha-TOTO
 
I'll always be behind Jurgen to when he'll stop being our Manager...

kama niliweza kuwa behind mediocre championship manager in BR,I can't see myself not supporting world class manager Jurgen Klopp

Matatizo tuliyonayo hayajawahi kusababishwa na JK..

those mediocre,average players tuliojaza pale kwenye lineup,hakuna signing hata moja ya JK..

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@MosDef,Tisha-TOTO

Mkuu The Magnificient.....I have always been behind all past LFC managers but I have never ever refrained from whipping their asses whenever I thought they were due for one!

Am no JK (yes, you got it right....I meant exactly him - our immediate former prezdaa)!

After that 2013/14 season promise by BR, think I became amongst his staunchest supporters but then I was one of the first (if actually not the first itself) to "sack" BR through my open letter through this forum immediately after that FA cup semi-final loss to A Villa at Wembley!

Klopp is no different - am going to continue hammering him until his team starts performing consistently. I know he can do better than this - he was hired to do better, not to match BR or Hodgson.

The current LFC squad is short on quality - that's a universal consensus. My argument is - Klopp should instil a consistent winning mentality. If a team can clobber ManC at the Etihad means it has the quality do perform better than the mediocrity that unfolded before our eyes last nite. Or those against West Ham/Watford/Newcastle/etc.
 
We beat this so called "top team" only a month ago, yet we got turned over like kids last night. Moreover, we beat Man City & Chelsea at their own backyards!!

We have shit players, granted, but why the coach cant set the team up the same way as he did last time?? The team's inconsistency is not about players - it's about an inconsistent team structure - which is all down to the freaking coach!

There was no flexibility in our game plan last nite. Predictable penetration through the middle was all what was on offer. You expect the approach to change when Benteke is thrown into fray but what do you see? The same old useless passing through a packed midstream plus zile flicks za kishamba za Lalana!

No, absolutely not acceptable from my point of view - Klopp can't run away from the shambolic performance of last night and he knows it. He can't continue hiding behind the "shit players" bandwagon. He must continue setting the team up in a similar way to what he did when we beat Leicester, ManC, Chelsea, etc.

I can see that for some Kopites, Klopp appears as untouchable as how a section of Tanzanians feel Magufuli is!
Lame Argument kwa mara nyingine kutoka kwako, infact ni mpangilio wa biased opinions kuhusu Klopp kutoka kwako tangu Rodgers apigwe chini, and naelewa kuwa wewe ni pro-Rodgers na mpaka sasa naona huamini kuwa Rodgers kapigwa chini na FSG..

You know whats funny?? Kipindi kile Rodgers anawanunua kina Lallana, Allen, Lovren, Lambert, Benteke etc, sikuziona biased opinions zako kuhusu hizi signings, and cha kuchekesha zaidi sijawahi kuziona biased opinions zako kuhusu Rodgers kutumia zaidi ya £300m+ na kaondoka kaiacha team ikiwa haina GK wa maana, CBs wa maana, na zaid ya hapo kaiacha team haina hata DM mmoja wa maana, kila kukicha ulikuwa unawalaumu FSG kuwa team haina Kiungo, fullbacks, wala CBs, wakati hela za kununua wachezaji anapewa Rodgers, last year hela ya Suarez yote kaimalizia kwa kina Lallana, this season hela yote ya Sterling kaimalizia kwa Benteke, na kumlipa Milner 150k per week, and sikuona ukimponda Rodgers kwa ubovu wa hizo signings, zaidi ya kuwalaumu FSG tu..

Sahiv unamlaumu Klopp, kwa upuuzi alioufanya Rodgers?? hao wachezaji ambao Rodgers kawasign yeye wenyewe walimwangusha, itakuwa kwa klopp? manager gani duniani atafanikiwa na kikosi ambacho kina Migs, Bogdan, skrtel, Milner, Allen, Lucas, Henderson, Lovren, Ibe, Lallana??, And on top of all hawa wote ni starters kwenye team, kuna mchezaji gani hapo anaanza kwenye Top 6 ya EPL sahiv? au niambie mchezaji gani hapo anaanza hata Everton?? utamlaumu Klopp kwa hilo??? Ranieri kaichukua Leicester akawasajili kina Mahrez, Cante, Drinkingwater, Abby etc..na hao ndo wanamsaidia sahiv tena saaana, Klopp kamsajili nani?? Huyo Ranier angebaki tu na kina Ulloa, King, Cambiaso etc angefika wapi??

Rodgers alikuwa na msimu mmoja tu mzuri katika tenure yake yote, na katika huo msimu hatukubeba kikombe chochote wala kuingia fainali yeyote, matter of fact, chini ya Rodgers hatujawahi kuingia fainali kwenye kombe lolote lile, lakin kipind hicho chote umekuwa ukim-back..Klopp yupo LFC kwa miezi miNNE tu, and you're calling for his head, and unajiita Shabiki wa LFC!!!??

Calderon (spelling), Rais wa Zaman wa Madrid, Juzi alikuwa quoted akisema Madrid walimtaka Klopp kwanza kabla ya Benitez, but Klopp akagoma kwenda Madrid, Kaamua kuja kuja kufundisha kina Lallana, na isitoshe angeweza kuisubiria kazi ya Bayern, but NO, kaja LFC, unadhani alikuwa hajui Task iliyokuwepo mbele yake?? Top manager yupi anataka kuharibu CV yake? Carlo kakubali kwenda Bayern, coz kuna wachezaji wazuri, asingeweza kukubali kuja kufundisha kina Lallana, but Klopp kakubali, Buvac mwenyewe anasema Kikosi walichokikuta wakat wanaanza kuifundisha Dortmund, kilikuwa ni kibovu zaid ya hiki cha LFC, kwa mantiki hiyo WANAJUA kwamba wachezaji waliopo ni wabovu, ndo maana tunaexpect Massive ClearOut this summer..

Na kuna vitu LFC fans hatutaki kukubali, LFC ni BIG club, but siyo TOP CLUB kwenye EPL kwa sasa, Leicester are Miles Better than us, Wako kwenye Top form, wamepoteza game 2 tu this season, Kuwafunga City and Chelsea haijustfy ubora au ubovu wa team, Manager anaweza akawa na ideas nzuri but uwezo wa players ukamuangusha, unataka Klopp aimplement Ideas zake, idea zipi?/wakat zote zinagoma kwasababu ya ubutu wa wachezaji, kwanzia kipa mpaka foward, game ya jana utamlaumu Klopp? kwahyo klopp anatakiwa awe anawafundisha kina Lallana jinsi ya kuassist? au kumfundisha a £32m striker jinsi ya kujiposition na kwenda na moves?/striker gan crosses zinapigwa upo nje ya box?? hayo yote afundishwe?? huyo Captain wako mambo yakiwa magumu anajificha uwanjani, mzigo wote unabaki kwa mtoto mdogo Can, kijana wa miaka 22 ndo anakibeba kiungo cha club kama LFC? hayo ni makosa ya Klopp? na ubaya zaid huyo Can anazidi kuchoka kadri siku zinavyokwenda..

Yaani mnataka Klopp, alivyokuja aibadilishe team ndani ya siku 2, ipande mpaka kwenye nafasi ya kwanza? kwa kuwa yeye ni Mungu?? au?? acheni hizo bhana, wakat unatoa biased opinions zako kuhusu Rodgers hakuna mtu aliyekuwa anakuingilia na unaposema Klopp hakoselewi, unazidi kuonyesha chuki zako za wazi kwa Klopp, humu ndani tumemcrtisize Klopp mara ngapi? wakat tumefungwa na Newcastle, Watford etc mbona watu walimcrtisize??? akikosea kupanga team unamponda tu, lakin siku hizi amekuwa anawawekea team lenu hilo hilo mnalolitaka kila siku, manake hata akianzisha youngsters mtaponda vile vile..

Rodgers kaharibu talents za madogo kibao, lakin sijawahi kuona hata siku moja ukimponda humu, zaidi ya kuwalalamikia FSG tu.
 
Kweli Liverpool tumeshikwa pabaya, mpaka magufuli na na j.kikwete wanatajwa huku in the past 24hrs...ni shida
 
I'll always be behind Jurgen to when he'll stop being our Manager...

kama niliweza kuwa behind mediocre championship manager in BR,I can't see myself not supporting world class manager Jurgen Klopp

Matatizo tuliyonayo hayajawahi kusababishwa na JK..

those mediocre,average players tuliojaza pale kwenye lineup,hakuna signing hata moja ya JK..

cc

@MosDef,Tisha-TOTO
Rodgers msimu wake wa kwanza alianza na kupigwa 3-0 na WBA ya shit manager kama Clarke, na baada ya hapo ilikuwa ni series ya shit results, but hatukuwahi hata siku moja humu kutaka Rodgers apigwe chini, au kumponda bila sababu za msingi, coz tulikuwa tunaelewa ni msimu wake wa kwanza, na nakumbuka alikuwa kapewa limited fund ya usajili..

leo hii Klopp ana miezi miNNE tu watu wanataka apigwe chini, na ubaya Calbre ya huyo kocha hatujawahi kuwa nayo tangu kipind cha Benitez, baada ya hapo tumeshuhudia mpaka kina Hodgson wakiifundisha LFC, now tumebahatika kuwa na kocha mwenye profile kama ya Klopp, lakin bado kuna watu wanaponda tu, club inaonyesha ambition lakin bado watu wanaponda tu, wanataka kila siku tuwe managed na kina Roberto Martnez, Tony pulis, pardew etc ndo wataridhika..

Mourinho, kaipa chelsea ubingwa, lakin msimu huu team yenye kina Willian, Hazard, Costa, Oscar, Azp, Matic, JT etc IMEMSHINDA, kwahyo tuseme Mou ni shit manager?? mtu anafundisha kina Lallana ambaye ana goal 2 sijui 3 tangu may 2014 na Benteke ambaye kila siku anamiss 1 to 1 yeye na keeper, afu unataka team ichallenge?
 
Lame Argument kwa mara nyingine kutoka kwako, infact ni mpangilio wa biased opinions kuhusu Klopp kutoka kwako tangu Rodgers apigwe chini, and naelewa kuwa wewe ni pro-Rodgers na mpaka sasa naona huamini kuwa Rodgers kapigwa chini na FSG..

You know whats funny?? Kipindi kile Rodgers anawanunua kina Lallana, Allen, Lovren, Lambert, Benteke etc, sikuziona biased opinions zako kuhusu hizi signings, and cha kuchekesha zaidi sijawahi kuziona biased opinions zako kuhusu Rodgers kutumia zaidi ya £300m+ na kaondoka kaiacha team ikiwa haina GK wa maana, CBs wa maana, na zaid ya hapo kaiacha team haina hata DM mmoja wa maana, kila kukicha ulikuwa unawalaumu FSG kuwa team haina Kiungo, fullbacks, wala CBs, wakati hela za kununua wachezaji anapewa Rodgers, last year hela ya Suarez yote kaimalizia kwa kina Lallana, this season hela yote ya Sterling kaimalizia kwa Benteke, na kumlipa Milner 150k per week, and sikuona ukimponda Rodgers kwa ubovu wa hizo signings, zaidi ya kuwalaumu FSG tu..

Sahiv unamlaumu Klopp, kwa upuuzi alioufanya Rodgers?? hao wachezaji ambao Rodgers kawasign yeye wenyewe walimwangusha, itakuwa kwa klopp? manager gani duniani atafanikiwa na kikosi ambacho kina Migs, Bogdan, skrtel, Milner, Allen, Lucas, Henderson, Lovren, Ibe, Lallana??, And on top of all hawa wote ni starters kwenye team, kuna mchezaji gani hapo anaanza kwenye Top 6 ya EPL sahiv? au niambie mchezaji gani hapo anaanza hata Everton?? utamlaumu Klopp kwa hilo??? Ranieri kaichukua Leicester akawasajili kina Mahrez, Cante, Drinkingwater, Abby etc..na hao ndo wanamsaidia sahiv tena saaana, Klopp kamsajili nani?? Huyo Ranier angebaki tu na kina Ulloa, King, Cambiaso etc angefika wapi??

Rodgers alikuwa na msimu mmoja tu mzuri katika tenure yake yote, na katika huo msimu hatukubeba kikombe chochote wala kuingia fainali yeyote, matter of fact, chini ya Rodgers hatujawahi kuingia fainali kwenye kombe lolote lile, lakin kipind hicho chote umekuwa ukim-back..Klopp yupo LFC kwa miezi miNNE tu, and you're calling for his head, and unajiita Shabiki wa LFC!!!??

Calderon (spelling), Rais wa Zaman wa Madrid, Juzi alikuwa quoted akisema Madrid walimtaka Klopp kwanza kabla ya Benitez, but Klopp akagoma kwenda Madrid, Kaamua kuja kuja kufundisha kina Lallana, na isitoshe angeweza kuisubiria kazi ya Bayern, but NO, kaja LFC, unadhani alikuwa hajui Task iliyokuwepo mbele yake?? Top manager yupi anataka kuharibu CV yake? Carlo kakubali kwenda Bayern, coz kuna wachezaji wazuri, asingeweza kukubali kuja kufundisha kina Lallana, but Klopp kakubali, Buvac mwenyewe anasema Kikosi walichokikuta wakat wanaanza kuifundisha Dortmund, kilikuwa ni kibovu zaid ya hiki cha LFC, kwa mantiki hiyo WANAJUA kwamba wachezaji waliopo ni wabovu, ndo maana tunaexpect Massive ClearOut this summer..

Na kuna vitu LFC fans hatutaki kukubali, LFC ni BIG club, but siyo TOP CLUB kwenye EPL kwa sasa, Leicester are Miles Better than us, Wako kwenye Top form, wamepoteza game 2 tu this season, Kuwafunga City and Chelsea haijustfy ubora au ubovu wa team, Manager anaweza akawa na ideas nzuri but uwezo wa players ukamuangusha, unataka Klopp aimplement Ideas zake, idea zipi?/wakat zote zinagoma kwasababu ya ubutu wa wachezaji, kwanzia kipa mpaka foward, game ya jana utamlaumu Klopp? kwahyo klopp anatakiwa awe anawafundisha kina Lallana jinsi ya kuassist? au kumfundisha a £32m striker jinsi ya kujiposition na kwenda na moves?/striker gan crosses zinapigwa upo nje ya box?? hayo yote afundishwe?? huyo Captain wako mambo yakiwa magumu anajificha uwanjani, mzigo wote unabaki kwa mtoto mdogo Can, kijana wa miaka 22 ndo anakibeba kiungo cha club kama LFC? hayo ni makosa ya Klopp? na ubaya zaid huyo Can anazidi kuchoka kadri siku zinavyokwenda..

Yaani mnataka Klopp, alivyokuja aibadilishe team ndani ya siku 2, ipande mpaka kwenye nafasi ya kwanza? kwa kuwa yeye ni Mungu?? au?? acheni hizo bhana, wakat unatoa biased opinions zako kuhusu Rodgers hakuna mtu aliyekuwa anakuingilia na unaposema Klopp hakoselewi, unazidi kuonyesha chuki zako za wazi kwa Klopp, humu ndani tumemcrtisize Klopp mara ngapi? wakat tumefungwa na Newcastle, Watford etc mbona watu walimcrtisize??? akikosea kupanda team unamponda tu, lakin siku anawawekea team lenu hilo hilo mnalolitaka kila siku, manake hata akianzisha youngsters mtaponda vile vile..

Rodgers kaharibu talents za madogo kibao, lakin sijawahi kuona hata siku moja ukimponda humu, zaidi ya kuwalalamikia FSG tu.

You have completely missed the plot, mister.

How old are you MosDef? I need to know if am actually pitting my arguments against a man or a mere boy!

Boys wengi turn out to be wanazi rather than being reasonable supporters.
 
We beat this so called "top team" only a month ago, yet we got turned over like kids last night. Moreover, we beat Man City & Chelsea at their own backyards!!

We have shit players, granted, but why the coach cant set the team up the same way as he did last time?? The team's inconsistency is not about players - it's about an inconsistent team structure - which is all down to the freaking coach!

There was no flexibility in our game plan last nite. Predictable penetration through the middle was all what was on offer. You expect the approach to change when Benteke is thrown into fray but what do you see? The same old useless passing through a packed midstream plus zile flicks za kishamba za Lalana!

No, absolutely not acceptable from my point of view - Klopp can't run away from the shambolic performance of last night and he knows it. He can't continue hiding behind the "shit players" bandwagon. He must continue setting the team up in a similar way to what he did when we beat Leicester, ManC, Chelsea, etc.

I can see that for some Kopites, Klopp appears as untouchable as how a section of Tanzanians feel Magufuli is!
But lazma tuangalie many factors...br alikua na proper pre season tofaut na klopp

Br inherited squad which had reina carra agger skrtel glen and Enrique who were very good back four ambao walikua na good defenciv record season before br came in

Pia br had suarez gerro ..
Team selection yake inaendana na players alio nao.so many injuries hana options
Ila kwa jins klopp anataka tucheze ni wazi unaona kabisa hana players wanaosuit his game..no pacy wide players...no strikers with movement..
 
I'll always be behind Jurgen to when he'll stop being our Manager...

kama niliweza kuwa behind mediocre championship manager in BR,I can't see myself not supporting world class manager Jurgen Klopp

Matatizo tuliyonayo hayajawahi kusababishwa na JK..

those mediocre,average players tuliojaza pale kwenye lineup,hakuna signing hata moja ya JK..

cc

@MosDef,Tisha-TOTO
I agree with u completely
 
You have completely missed the plot, mister.

How old are you MosDef? I need to know if am actually pitting my arguments against a man or a mere boy!

Boys wengi turn out to be wanazi rather than being reasonable supporters.
Kama ungekuwa Reasonable Supporter sidhani kama ungedemand matokeo kwa manager ambaye kaichukua team katikati ya msimu na ana Miezi MINNE tu kwenye Club.
 
But lazma tuangalie many factors...br alikua na proper pre season tofaut na klopp

Br inherited squad which had reina carra agger skrtel glen and Enrique who were very good back four ambao walikua na good defenciv record season before br came in

Pia br had suarez gerro ..
Team selection yake inaendana na players alio nao.so many injuries hana options
Ila kwa jins klopp anataka tucheze ni wazi unaona kabisa hana players wanaosuit his game..no pacy wide players...no strikers with movement..
he hates Klopp.
 
But lazma tuangalie many factors...br alikua na proper pre season tofaut na klopp

Br inherited squad which had reina carra agger skrtel glen and Enrique who were very good back four ambao walikua na good defenciv record season before br came in

Pia br had suarez gerro ..
Team selection yake inaendana na players alio nao.so many injuries hana options
Ila kwa jins klopp anataka tucheze ni wazi unaona kabisa hana players wanaosuit his game..no pacy wide players...no strikers with movement..

Sawa. Lakini....

Lakini mimi sihitaji kuwa spokesperson wa Klopp.

My duty as a LFC supporter is first and foremost to support Klopp lakini also to pressure him perform consistently with what he has got. Otherwise he's likely to have a comfort zone siesta and that will be that. Nina wasiwasi mkubwa sana kwa mwendo huu we may very soon find ourselves plunged into a relegation dogfight kwa kisingizio cha "Klopp needs time". For me....he needs to deliver immediately in order to keep LFC in the premiership next season.

And Klopp is much much bigger than BR - so let's not make direct comparisons here!

It's on record on this forum that I was once a staunch supporter of BR - but I was the first one to fire him!!!

Give credit where it's due and whip ass when due!

That's being rational!!
 
That's why I think you're a kid.

You don't read the argument between the lines...
you once called for Klopp's head..

ndiyo maana arguments zako zote zinazomuhusu Klopp huwa naziona ni lame tu.
 
Sawa. Lakini....

Lakini mimi sihitaji kuwa spokesperson wa Klopp.

My duty as a LFC supporter is first and foremost to support Klopp lakini also to pressure him perform consistently with what he has got. Otherwise he's likely to have a comfort zone siesta and that will be that. Nina wasiwasi mkubwa sana kwa mwendo huu we may very soon find ourselves plunged into a relegation dogfight kwa kisingizio cha "Klopp needs time". For me....he needs to deliver immediately in order to keep LFC in the premiership next season.

It's on record on this forum that I was once a staunch supporter of BR - but I was the first one to fire him!!!

Give credit where it's due and whip ass when due!

That's being rational!!
Lool..
 
The Turkish newspaper AMK state that the Liverpool have scouts present at every one of Lazar Markovic's games.
The Red’s have been impressed with Markovic’s progress leading to manager Jurgen Klopp wanting him back next season.
 
Today is the day Daniel Sturridge is due to return to full training for the first time in 2 months.

Klopp now must believe the work has been done. The muscle resistance is built up. And he is ready now to work towards getting back in the team.

Many will have a pessimistic view and i dont blame you but will probably think its ok to throw out childish comments towards and mock him. But im not like that. Sturridge is world class and a fit Sturridge would get into any team in Europe.

He has never had this sort of treatment from a manager before. Never had this cautious and concise recovery. And never had this patient strengthening plan before.

He will be an absolutely huge boost to our team.

Getting him and Coutinho in the team together again will transform us going forward. Them both coming back at the same time will he the injection of quality we need.

Fingers crossed this is him now until the end of the season at least.
Daniel Sturridge completed a full training session today without any complications.
 

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