Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

[nairobae]

You have had protest nyingi na a lot of you are dead, but nothing changed.

Sisi tutapata mabadiliko makubwa sana baada ya hii protest na CCM itabadilika. Upumbavu huu wa hutu Samia ni Kikwete na kundi lake na sasa ishakuwa noma.

Hakuna penye Mama yenu Idi Amin anaenda, sasa ndio anataka kuwafinya vizuri mtajua hamjui.

 

[nairobae]

Maandamano yamefanywa sana Tz. Kipindi cha Nyerere na Mwinyi, maandamano yalifanyika kila wakati. Kipindi hicho nyinyi mko chini ya baba Moi, hakuna maandamano yaliruhusiwa.

Ni kipindi cha kikwete na Magufuli na sasa Samia, ndipo maandamano yamekua yakizuiliwa.

Wakati wa Moi kulikua na maandamano, kwani unadhani tulipata multiparty through talks ama?

 

[NairobiWalker]

Maandamano yamefanywa sana Tz. Kipindi cha Nyerere na Mwinyi, maandamano yalifanyika kila wakati. Kipindi hicho nyinyi mko chini ya baba Moi, hakuna maandamano yaliruhusiwa.

Ni kipindi cha kikwete na Magufuli na sasa Samia, ndipo maandamano yamekua yakizuiliwa.

Are you speaking about maandamano as if it's something progressive Chamoto? 😂😂 How times change.😂
Anyway, you haven't been paying attention if you think there was no maandamano during Moi's time. Maandamano is as old as Kenya. The first photo is Kisumu riots against Jomo Kenyatta in 1969. The second is Saba Saba maandamano in 1992 (Moi's time) pushing for multipartism.

 

[Chamoto]

Wakati wa Moi kulikua na maandamano, kwani unadhani tulipata multiparty through talks ama?

Multipartyism was forced upon us by the globalist, economic restructuring agenda. Where do you think, you got KRA and VAT? Same thing happened to us, as in many other countries in the global south.

 

[NairobiWalker]

Multipartyism was forced upon us by the globalist, economic restructuring agenda. Where do you think, you got KRA and VAT? Same thing happened to us, as in many other countries in the global south.

Who forced single partyism on us?

 

[Chamoto]

Who forced single partyism on us?

No body.

 

[nairobae]

Gikomba Maerket phase 2

 

[Chamoto]

Are you speaking about maandamano as if it's something progressive Chamoto? 😂😂 How times change.😂

Nilikuwa na mjibu mwenzako aliyesema ni mara ya kwanza Tanzania kufanya maandamano. Huwa sina shina na kufanya demonstration ila sipendi uharibifu wa mali za umma.

The first photo is Kisumu riots against Jomo Kenyatta in 1969.

Hicho ni kipindi cha mzee Kenyatta.

The second is Saba Saba maandamano in 1992 (Moi's time) pushing for multipartism.

Wote tunajua Moi alikuwa diktata, hayo maandamano ya '92 ilikuwa sababu ya pressure za wakubwa kuruhusu demokrasia. Kabla ya hao hamkuwa na jeuri ya kuandamana mbele ya baba Moi.

 

[NairobiWalker]

No body.

So you had singlepartism in Tanzania in 1850?

 

[Chamoto]

So you had singlepartism in Tanzania in 1850?

Hakukuwa na Tanzania 1850.

 

[NairobiWalker]

Daily Dose

 

[NairobiWalker]

Hakukuwa na Tanzania 1850.

So where did they get the single party system from?

 

[NairobiWalker]

Nilikuwa na mjibu mwenzako aliyesema ni mara ya kwanza Tanzania kufanya maandamano. Huwa sina shina na kufanya demonstration ila sipendi uharibifu wa mali za umma.

But you also mentioned that you began maandamano before us. I was simply proving you wrong.

Hicho ni kipindi cha mzee Kenyatta.

Who said it wasn't?

Wote tunajua Moi alikuwa diktata, hayo maandamano ya '92 ilikuwa sababu ya pressure za wakubwa kuruhusu demokrasia. Kabla ya hao hamkuwa na jeuri ya kuandamana mbele ya baba Moi.

But you said there was no maandamano during Moi's time. Why are you contradicting yourself?

 

[Kijakazi]

So you had singlepartism in Tanzania in 1850?

communism, nchi zote za kiafrika ukiondoa apartheid SA zilipractrice communism baada ya uhuru in one way or another pamoja na kenya hata kama ni ngumu kwako kuamini, yes kenya practised communism baada ya assasination of kenyata, akina raila wote walikuwa communist including moi ...

 

[NairobiWalker]

communism, nchi zote za kiafrika ukiondoa apartheid SA zilipractrice communism baada ya uhuru in one way or another pamoja na kenya hata kama ni ngumu kwako kuamini, yes kenya practised communism baada ya assasination of kenyata, akina raila wote walikuwa communist inluding moi ...

Who talked about communism? Why are you so daft?

 

[nairobae]

Who talked about communism? Why are you so daft?

The guy thinks communism is having a one party state, eti Moi was a communists. 🤣 🤣

 

[nairobae]

communism, nchi zote za kiafrika ukiondoa apartheid SA zilipractrice communism baada ya uhuru in one way or another pamoja na kenya hata kama ni ngumu kwako kuamini, yes kenya practised communism baada ya assasination of kenyata, akina raila wote walikuwa communist inluding moi ...

Moi was anti-communist and pro-west, he crashed anyone with communist ideologies, that's why he never got along with Jaramogi and his son Raila.

 

[Nicxie]

communism, nchi zote za kiafrika ukiondoa apartheid SA zilipractrice communism baada ya uhuru in one way or another pamoja na kenya hata kama ni ngumu kwako kuamini, yes kenya practised communism baada ya assasination of kenyata, akina raila wote walikuwa communist inluding moi ...

Baada ya assassination of Kenyatta? 🤔🤔🤔
Holy isht!

 

[Kijakazi]

Who talked about communism? Why are you so daft?

,,So where did they get the single party system from?''

 

[nairobae]

Multipartyism was forced upon us by the globalist, economic restructuring agenda. Where do you think, you got KRA and VAT? Same thing happened to us, as in many other countries in the global south.

In Kenya multipartism didn't come easy after it was banned, kulikua na maandamano kali sana kwa ground, the only support we got from the west was sanctions. Huwezi kutufunza our own history.