Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

[joto la jiwe]

Despite the opinion, Kenya has a big economy where mtu wa bidii na kujituma ana make it without looking at wahindi, waarabu ama wazungu., like this inspiring journey of a Kenyan woman in Kenya., in Tz balaa, ni empty Kiswahili tu., ..,

Big Economy while you can't feed your people, spear my ribs please[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

 

[joto la jiwe]

joto la jiwe , hapo huwezi kumsafisha malaya wa kisiasa.

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[NDINDA]

 

[joto la jiwe]

but hakuna siku nilishawai sikia tz to be EA powerhouse, infact nyerere mwenyewe alitaja kenya kama uzunguni, na nairobi, half london

Ulishawahi sikia Tanzania Kuna mtu amekufa kwa njaa, au anaishi kwenye slums, au anabaguliwa kwa sababu ya kabila lake?, What is superpower if you die of hunger and suffer from cholera outbreaks yearly because of poverty?[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

 

[Chamoto]

Tuwache maswali ambayo hayana tija. Wewe unaijua historia ya uongozi wa Egypt kweli? Mimi ninaifahamu vizuri tangu enzi za Egypt walipokuwa wanaongozwa na king halafu huyo king akapinduliwa na wanajeshi akina Abdel Nasser in the 1950s. Kuanzia hapo Egypt imekuwa ikiongozwa na Wanajeshi bila uchaguzi wa urais kuwahi kufanyika. 2011 baada ya Arab spring revolution Hosni Mubarak ambaye pia alikuwa mwanajeshi na alikuwa amekwama kwenye madaraka kwa miaka 30 alitolewa kwa nguvu na 2012 uchaguzi wa kwanza wa kidemokrasia wa urais ulifanyika. Morsi ndiye alichaguliwa na kuwa rais wa kwanza kuwahi kuchaguliwa na wananchi wa Egypt. Kwa bahati mbaya rais huyu hakumaliza hata miaka miwili madarakani kabla ya serikali yake kupinduliwa na jeshi tena na mwanajeshi mwingine Al Sisi kushika hatamu. Huyu Morsi alifungwa jela na akafariki akiwa gerezani. Viongozi wote wa serikali ya Morsi walifungwa gerezani na wengine wamekufa gerezani. Egypt ni one of the most pathetic, disgusting, shit-hole countries likija kwenye suala la demokrasia. Chamoto ninajua ninachozungumzia.

Sasa hapo kwenye deomokrasia tofauti ya Misri na Kenya ni ipi? Tangu 60's ni makabila mawili tuu ndiyo yaliyoongoza nchi yenu.

 

[game over]

Sasa hapo kwenye deomokrasia tofauti ya Misri na Kenya ni ipi? Tangu 60's ni makabila mawili tuu ndiyo yaliyoongoza nchi yenu.

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[Simba 254]

Sasa hapo kwenye deomokrasia tofauti ya Misri na Kenya ni ipi? Tangu 60's ni makabila mawili tuu ndiyo yaliyoongoza nchi yenu.

due to them having majority votes i beleive in democracy majority wins now what you were supposed to talk about is guys being open minded to vote based on policies and not mtu wetu idiology....

 

[Tony254]

But Egypt is has top 3 biggest Economy in Africa, kwahiyo kumbe uchumi peke yake hauna maana au unajaribu kufanya "Maneuvers' ili kuhakikisha unashinda mjadala?

Ni kweli uchumi pekee sio mambo yote. Kwenye uchumi wako sawa ila kwenye demokrasia wao ni zero kabisa. Wamefanya uchaguzi moja tu wa kumchagua rais katika historia nzima ya Egypt. Uchaguzi mmoja tu. Raia wa Egypt wameenda debeni mara moja tu mwaka wa 2012 kumchagua rais wao. Na rais huyo kafungwa gerezani miaka miwili baadaye. Egypt ni shit-hole kwenye demokrasia nakuambia hata afadhali Somalia.

 

[Tony254]

Sasa hapo kwenye deomokrasia tofauti ya Misri na Kenya ni ipi? Tangu 60's ni makabila mawili tuu ndiyo yaliyoongoza nchi yenu.

Wewe huelewi maana ya neno demokrasia unataka ufundishwe kama mtoto mdogo. Demokrasia ni pale ambapo wananchi wenyewe wanapatiwa fursa ya kumchagua kiongozi wanaomtaka. Hata kama viongozi wote wanatokea kabila moja hakuna shida. Tofauti ya Egypt na Kenya ni kwamba Kenya raia wanapatiwa fursa ya kumchagua rais wao ilhali huko Egypt raia hawapati fursa ya kumchagua rais wao, wanatawaliwa kimabavu. Marekani bado haijapata rais mwanamke ila sijasikia ukipinga kwamba Marekani ina demokrasia ya kweli. Huko Marekani kwa miaka zaidi ya mia mbili rais alikuwa ni mzungu tu tena wa kiume na ilichukua muda mrefu sana kabla ya rais mweusi kuchaguliwa. Isitoshe ilichukuwa Mkenya kuenda Marekani na kufanya ngono na mzungu ili Marekani iweze kupata rais wake wa kwanza mweusi baada ya miaka zaidi ya 200.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Ni kweli uchumi pekee sio mambo yote. Kwenye uchumi wako sawa ila kwenye demokrasia wao ni zero kabisa. Wamefanya uchaguzi moja tu wa kumchagua rais katika historia nzima ya Egypt. Uchaguzi mmoja tu. Raia wa Egypt wameenda debeni mara moja tu mwaka wa 2012 kumchagua rais wao. Na rais huyo kafungwa gerezani miaka miwili baadaye. Egypt ni shit-hole kwenye demokrasia nakuambia hata afadhali Somalia.

Is democracy synonymous to just elections every five years, are Rwanda, Uganda better than Egypt?.

Jaribu kuangalia ranking ya Egypt na Kenya kwenye kipengele cha demokrasia uone ni nchi ipi yenye "higher scores"?

 

[joto la jiwe]

due to them having majority votes i beleive in democracy majority wins now what you were supposed to talk about is guys being open minded to vote based on policies and not mtu wetu idiology....

Due you allow voters to vote based on their tribes or religion, if that is the case Baraka Obama wouldn't be voted by the Whites to be their president because Whites make 80% of all voters in USA.

Hii tabia yenu ya kuchagua mtu kutoka kabila lake ndio maana ya "tribalism". Wherever there is tribalism, there is no democracy.

 

[Tony254]

Is democracy synonymous to just elections every five years, are Rwanda, Uganda better than Egypt?.

Jaribu kuangalia ranking ya Egypt na Kenya kwenye kipengele cha demokrasia uone ni nchi ipi yenye "higher scores"?

Ndio kipengele muhimu zaidi cha demokrasia ni elections.
Fuata hii link uone Kenya ipo number 82 na Egypt ipo number 151 yaani huko mwisho kabisa wanavuta mkia. Mkuu kubali tu kwamba Egypt hawana demokrasia. Maana hata hii report inaprove my point.

Ranking

www.democracymatrix.com

Complete Ranking: Total Value Index 2020 (Context Measurement)​

Dataset of the Democracy Matrix V.4

Rank	Country	Total Value Index	Classification
1	Denmark	0.958	Working Democracy
2	Norway	0.956	Working Democracy
3	Finland	0.946	Working Democracy
4	Sweden	0.946	Working Democracy
5	Germany	0.944	Working Democracy
6	Switzerland	0.934	Working Democracy
7	Netherlands	0.93	Working Democracy
8	New Zealand	0.928	Working Democracy
9	Belgium	0.925	Working Democracy
10	Costa Rica	0.914	Working Democracy
11	Spain	0.912	Working Democracy
12	Luxembourg	0.905	Working Democracy
13	Australia	0.904	Working Democracy
14	Estonia	0.903	Working Democracy
15	Iceland	0.899	Working Democracy
16	Ireland	0.898	Working Democracy
17	United Kingdom	0.892	Working Democracy
18	Austria	0.89	Working Democracy
19	France	0.889	Working Democracy
20	South Korea	0.883	Working Democracy
21	Lithuania	0.879	Working Democracy
22	Italy	0.871	Working Democracy
23	Portugal	0.864	Working Democracy
24	Canada	0.86	Working Democracy
25	Japan	0.857	Working Democracy
26	Taiwan	0.847	Working Democracy
27	Uruguay	0.847	Deficient Democracy
28	Cyprus	0.846	Working Democracy
29	Chile	0.84	Working Democracy
30	Slovakia	0.836	Working Democracy
31	Greece	0.834	Working Democracy
32	Czech Republic	0.834	Working Democracy
33	Latvia	0.83	Working Democracy
34	Barbados	0.83	Working Democracy
35	Israel	0.821	Working Democracy
36	United States of America	0.811	Deficient Democracy
37	Cape Verde	0.792	Deficient Democracy
38	Jamaica	0.787	Deficient Democracy
39	Trinidad and Tobago	0.784	Deficient Democracy
40	Slovenia	0.782	Deficient Democracy
41	Tunisia	0.779	Deficient Democracy
42	Malta	0.774	Deficient Democracy
43	Vanuatu	0.769	Deficient Democracy
44	Argentina	0.763	Deficient Democracy
45	Croatia	0.763	Deficient Democracy
46	Romania	0.731	Deficient Democracy
47	South Africa	0.72	Deficient Democracy
48	Botswana	0.719	Deficient Democracy
49	Seychelles	0.716	Deficient Democracy
50	Peru	0.716	Deficient Democracy
51	Georgia	0.716	Deficient Democracy
52	Mauritius	0.715	Deficient Democracy
53	Suriname	0.714	Deficient Democracy
54	Poland	0.71	Deficient Democracy
55	São Tomé and Príncipe	0.707	Deficient Democracy
56	Bhutan	0.701	Deficient Democracy
57	Panama	0.691	Deficient Democracy
58	Namibia	0.685	Deficient Democracy
59	Ghana	0.682	Deficient Democracy
60	Bulgaria	0.672	Deficient Democracy
61	Moldova	0.665	Deficient Democracy
62	Mongolia	0.656	Deficient Democracy
63	Lesotho	0.644	Deficient Democracy
64	Burkina Faso	0.643	Deficient Democracy
65	Solomon Islands	0.641	Deficient Democracy
66	Armenia	0.639	Deficient Democracy
67	Maldives	0.636	Deficient Democracy
68	Kosovo	0.624	Deficient Democracy
69	The Gambia	0.622	Deficient Democracy
70	Sierra Leone	0.615	Deficient Democracy
71	Timor-Leste	0.612	Deficient Democracy
72	Guyana	0.605	Deficient Democracy
73	Nepal	0.603	Deficient Democracy
74	Ecuador	0.601	Deficient Democracy
75	Brazil	0.599	Deficient Democracy
76	Malawi	0.599	Deficient Democracy
77	Indonesia	0.587	Deficient Democracy
78	Hungary	0.585	Deficient Democracy
79	Albania	0.583	Deficient Democracy
80	North Macedonia	0.582	Deficient Democracy
81	Liberia	0.582	Deficient Democracy
82	Kenya	0.576	Hybrid Regime
83	Tanzania	0.567	Hybrid Regime
84	Colombia	0.566	Hybrid Regime
85	India	0.564	Hybrid Regime
86	Singapore	0.562	Hybrid Regime
87	Dominican Republic	0.562	Hybrid Regime
88	Paraguay	0.558	Deficient Democracy
89	Montenegro	0.554	Hybrid Regime
90	Mexico	0.553	Hybrid Regime
91	Burma/Myanmar	0.542	Hybrid Regime
92	Ukraine	0.54	Hybrid Regime
93	Sri Lanka	0.54	Deficient Democracy
94	Fiji	0.537	Hybrid Regime
95	Malaysia	0.536	Hybrid Regime
96	Bosnia and Herzegovina	0.531	Hybrid Regime
97	Bolivia	0.521	Hybrid Regime
98	Guatemala	0.504	Hybrid Regime
99	Benin	0.503	Hybrid Regime
100	Nigeria	0.503	Hybrid Regime
101	Kuwait	0.496	Hybrid Regime
102	Guinea-Bissau	0.492	Hybrid Regime
103	Papua New Guinea	0.49	Hybrid Regime
104	El Salvador	0.485	Hybrid Regime
105	Morocco	0.474	Hybrid Regime
106	Lebanon	0.474	Hybrid Regime
107	Hong Kong	0.464	Hybrid Regime
108	Zambia	0.456	Hybrid Regime
109	Jordan	0.454	Hybrid Regime
110	Kyrgyzstan	0.448	Hybrid Regime
111	Mali	0.448	Hybrid Regime
112	Philippines	0.443	Hybrid Regime
113	Gabon	0.443	Hybrid Regime
114	Mozambique	0.441	Hybrid Regime
115	Serbia	0.439	Moderate Autocracy
116	Somaliland	0.432	Moderate Autocracy
117	Côte d'Ivoire	0.431	Hybrid Regime
118	Madagascar	0.415	Moderate Autocracy
119	Uganda	0.409	Hybrid Regime
120	Angola	0.387	Moderate Autocracy
121	Togo	0.387	Hybrid Regime
122	Honduras	0.379	Moderate Autocracy
123	Pakistan	0.375	Hybrid Regime
124	Comoros	0.372	Hybrid Regime
125	Afghanistan	0.358	Moderate Autocracy
126	Mauritania	0.357	Moderate Autocracy
127	Iraq	0.354	Moderate Autocracy
128	Ethiopia	0.351	Hybrid Regime
129	Zanzibar	0.349	Hybrid Regime
130	Central African Republic	0.349	Moderate Autocracy
131	Haiti	0.346	Moderate Autocracy
132	Congo, Democratic Republic	0.337	Moderate Autocracy
133	Zimbabwe	0.336	Moderate Autocracy
134	Algeria	0.319	Moderate Autocracy
135	Thailand	0.3	Moderate Autocracy
136	Djibouti	0.291	Moderate Autocracy
137	Turkey	0.29	Moderate Autocracy
138	Cameroon	0.286	Moderate Autocracy
139	Kazakhstan	0.276	Moderate Autocracy
140	Guinea	0.275	Moderate Autocracy
141	Uzbekistan	0.269	Moderate Autocracy
142	Rwanda	0.269	Moderate Autocracy
143	Congo, Republic	0.266	Moderate Autocracy
144	Russia	0.262	Moderate Autocracy
145	Vietnam, Democratic Republic	0.254	Moderate Autocracy
146	Oman	0.251	Moderate Autocracy
147	Iran	0.25	Moderate Autocracy
148	Eswatini	0.239	Moderate Autocracy
149	Bangladesh	0.215	Moderate Autocracy
150	Chad	0.211	Moderate Autocracy
151	Egypt	0.21	Moderate Autocracy
152	Cambodia	0.178	Moderate Autocracy
153	United Arab Emirates	0.166	Hard Autocracy
154	Cuba	0.165	Moderate Autocracy
155	Belarus	0.139	Moderate Autocracy
156	Nicaragua	0.137	Moderate Autocracy
157	Azerbaijan	0.136	Hard Autocracy
158	Burundi	0.125	Hard Autocracy
159	Venezuela	0.118	Hard Autocracy
160	Equatorial Guinea	0.117	Hard Autocracy
161	Tajikistan	0.111	Hard Autocracy
162	Laos	0.101	Hard Autocracy
163	Libya	0.095	Hard Autocracy
164	Turkmenistan	0.09	Hard Autocracy
165	Somalia	0.082	Hard Autocracy
166	Palestine/West Bank	0.082	Hard Autocracy
167	Sudan	0.064	Hard Autocracy
168	Palestine/Gaza	0.055	Hard Autocracy
169	Qatar	0.054	Hard Autocracy
170	Syria	0.053	Hard Autocracy
171	South Sudan	0.053	Hard Autocracy
172	China	0.048	Hard Autocracy
173	Saudi Arabia	0.048	Hard Autocracy
174	Yemen	0.041	Hard Autocracy
175	North Korea	0.029	Hard Autocracy
176	Eritrea	0.017	Hard Autocracy

 

[Tony254]

Due you allow voters to vote based on their tribes or religion, if that is the case Baraka Obama wouldn't be voted by the Whites to be their president because Whites make 80% of all voters in USA.

Hii tabia yenu ya kuchagua mtu kutoka kabila lake ndio maana ya "tribalism". Wherever there is tribalism, there is no democracy.

Hata Wamerakani wana racism kali sana na ndio maana hawakumchagua rais mweusi kwa miaka zaidi ya mia mbili. Pia wamarekani wana taasubi ya kiume mbaya sana na ndio maana hawajawahi kumchagua rais mwanamke.

 

[Lwiva]

Wote humu mwisho wa siku tutaongea lugha moja kwamba Magufuli haikuwa uwezo wake bali ni Mungu aliamua kutulinda kupitia yeye.

My Take: TULIWAAMBIA
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Tuliwaambia[emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787] Geza Ulole Opportunity Cost Tony254

https://www.citizensjournal.us/if-y...government-stats-unveil-the-horrifying-truth/

 

[The best 007]

world class bus from kunyaland [emoji91] [emoji23]
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Huko nyuma kuna sehemu ya kufuri kabisa, I guess hili bus pia ni duka, alafu kidizain pia ni nyumba hii [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

 

[joto la jiwe]

Hata Wamerakani wana racism kali sana na ndio maana hawakumchagua rais mweusi kwa miaka zaidi ya mia mbili. Pia wamarekani wana taasubi ya kiume mbaya sana na ndio maana hawajawahi kumchagua rais mwanamke.

Wote ninyi mpo na ukabila/racism, ndio sababu tunawaambia mje kujifunza Tanzania [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

 

[joto la jiwe]

Hivi ndivyo Magufuli alivyotaka wamachinga kufanya biashara, sio kweli kwamba Magufuli aliruhusu wamachinga kuzagaa na kufanya biashara popote.

Mama Samia anasimamia na kutekekeza Yale aliyoelekezwa na Magufuli
The best 007
Geza Ulole

 

[Tony254]

Wote ninyi mpo na ukabila/racism, ndio sababu tunawaambia mje kujifunza Tanzania [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Natumai umejionea mwenyewe kwenye hio list kwamba Egypt wapo number 151 huku Kenya ipo number 82 na Tanzania 83. Egypt kwenye demokrasia wao ni shit-hole. Halafu nchi nyingi za kiarabu na middle east ni shit-hole kwenye demokrasia ikiwemo akina UAE na hata Saudi Arabia, Iran na Turkey

 

[Chamoto]

due to them having majority votes i beleive in democracy majority wins now what you were supposed to talk about is guys being open minded to vote based on policies and not mtu wetu idiology....

George Musengi Saitoti, naye alishindwa kwasababu ya kukosa kura za wengi?

 

[Justinr]

cc Geza Ulole
cc Tony254

Walewale....