Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

[Tz_one]

Mlifanyaje mkaiteka market ya Russia na Ukraine? Ni marketing tu au kuna la jambo lingine?

Ni Marketing na pia kuna company za urusi zi ime invest zanzibar tourism ili kuvutia warusi wenzao waje .marketing imefanyika sana miaka iliyopita miwili mitatu ..haya ni matunda sasa ..wazungu (wa marekani na ulaya)wanaogopa covid sana ila warusi wanakuja tu wana fill the gap na kuongezea zaidi..

Dar has also been getting a share some planes pass via Dar on way to Zanzibar kwa wale wanaovisit Kilimanjaro,Serengeti ,Ruaha

 

[NDINDA]

Tulimtumia Naomi Campbell! Kumbuka Russia na Ukraine hawana kasumba za Kimagharibi wamekubali kuishi na corona kama siye! nyie ngojeni the West wafungulie watalii wao ambapo na sisi tutafaidika pia!

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Tanzania inajua Kufanya mambo yake.

Unique Travel Products etc

Pia imegundua kuna Traditional Markets ambayo Ni Europe na US (Trend yake inashift kila mara)

Na kuna Emerging Markets ( Russia, China, India etc)

Huu ndio umuhimu wa ku (DIVERSIFY). Eneo lingine likidunda lingine linatake care situation, Bado hatujamalizia kitu kimoja na ndio hapo hatutakua na shida tena, Ni ku encourage wabongo watalii na paimarike kana regional Flights inavyoenda huku nchini. Tutakua mbali na hatutakua na utegemezi wa Arrivals pekee.

 

[Tony254]

It is costly lakini ..but its a good investment ..haileti revenue kibwa direct kwa Gov ila mutipler effect yake kwenye ..Tourism,Food industry (supply) , kuuza products kwenye ndege,Maduka ya Airport , employment ni kubwa

Opportunity cost ya kununua ndege cash for a poor country ni kubwa sana. Namaanisha kwamba hio pesa kama ingetumika kufanyia miradi mingine basi ingeleta faida kubwa zaidi kwa uchumi wa Tanzania. Especially considering kwamba neighbours wenu wengi tayari wana airline ikiwemo Kenya na Ethiopia. Kulikuwa na ulazima gani wa kutumia almost $1 billion kununua ndege hizo 11 in cash wakati bado hamjajenga miundo mbinu yenu vizuri? Starting a new airline from scratch is an expensive affair and it is even more expensive to buy aeroplanes instead of leasing them and especially if you are buying upfront without a grace period. The multiplier effect of these purchases will be small. There are no forward or backward linkage industries associated with the purchase. Hakuna industry ambayo itapop up kwa sababu mumenunua ndege 11. Lakini kama mngejenga lami mahali ambapo hakukuwa na lami basi hio itakuwa na impact kubwa zaidi maana itawezesha wakulima kusafirisha mizigo yao to the market. Tatizo lenu kubwa ni kwamba mnataka kukimbizana na Kenya kwenye kila sector. Hii ya kununua ndege 11 in cash mlikurupuka

 

[Mgagaa na Upwa]

Ss mtu utakuta anamuona ichoboy anasema eti ni muarabu kisa ngozi wkt ichoboy ni mswahili pure kuliko hata yeye na weusi wake huo, ichoboy mtoto wa ilala wapo wengi pale Wakenya msiogope sisi ndo Watz, wote sisi ni watoto wa Nyerere

Kenya watu na wahindi awajichanganyi kama ilivyoa Tanzania

 

[Tony254]

Ni Marketing na pia kuna company za urusi zi ime invest zanzibar tourism ili kuvutia warusi wenzao waje .marketing imefanyika sana miaka iliyopita miwili mitatu ..haya ni matunda sasa ..wazungu (wa marekani na ulaya)wanaogopa covid sana ila warusi wanakuja tu wana fill the gap na kuongezea zaidi..

Dar has also been getting a share some planes pass via Dar on way to Zanzibar kwa wale wanaovisit Kilimanjaro,Serengeti ,Ruaha

Naona mtatupiga vibaya kwenye number of tourists this year. Tayari mnapokea revenue nyingi kutushinda ila sisi tulikuwa tunapokea tourists wengi kuwashinda. Sasa itakuwa kwamba mtapokea idadi kubwa ya tourists na revenue nyingi pia. Hongera. Hio policy ya Magufuli ya kudanganya watu kwamba hakuna corona Tanzania naona imezaa matunda mazuri kwa uchumi wa Tanzania.

 

[Tz_one]

Opportunity cost ya kununua ndege cash for a poor country ni kubwa sana. Namaanisha kwamba hio pesa kama ingetumika kufanyia miradi mingine basi ingeleta faida kubwa zaidi kwa uchumi wa Tanzania. Especially considering kwamba neighbours wenu wengi tayari wana airline ikiwemo Kenya na Ethiopia. Kulikuwa na ulazima gani wa kutumia almost $1 billion kununua ndege hizo 11 in cash wakati bado hamjajenga miundo mbinu yenu vizuri? Starting a new airline from scratch is an expensive affair and it is even more expensive to buy aeroplanes instead of leasing them and especially if you are buying upfront without a grace period. The multiplier effect of these purchases will be small. There are no forward or backward linkage industries associated with the purchase. Hakuna industry ambayo itapop up kwa sababu mumenunua ndege 11. Lakini kama mngejenga lami mahali ambapo hakukuwa na lami basi hio itakuwa na impact kubwa zaidi maana itawezesha wakulima kusafirisha mizigo yao to the market. Tatizo lenu kubwa ni kwamba mnataka kukimbizana na Kenya kwenye kila sector. Hii ya kununua ndege 11 in cash mlikurupuka

Kweli una point muhimu ...pia kujenga lami ya $1billion kwa watu wavivu au wasioweza kuitumia ni hasara ..anyways .its not like sector nyngne zimeachwa ..almost sector zote zimepewa hela roads,hospitals,rails,ports ,airports ,water ..labda ungeniambia if $1billion ingemalizia reli chap au ingemaliza JNHPP chap..ila bado tungeendelea kuwa na msemo wa hatuna shirika la ndege ..mimi naona angenunua ndege pole pole kama dreamliner mbili kwa wakati mmoja was a very fast move ..hyo $285mil ingepelekwa kwenye reli or jnhpp ku boost ..lakin ndo hvyo no one is perfect

 

[Tony254]

Kenya watu na wahindi awajichanganyi kama ilivyoa Tanzania

Unamaanisha kwamba mtu mweusi anaweza kumuoa muhindi huko Tanzania?

 

[Mgagaa na Upwa]

Unamaanisha kwamba mtu mweusi anaweza kumuoa muhindi huko Tanzania?

Haina hata shida,mimi mwenyewe na cousin wangu mama yake ni mhindi pure mtafute youtube ni mwanamuziki wa hip hop kitambo tu anaitwa rado,mfano mfuatilie mdosi maarufu huko instagram anaitwa shyrose bhanji,watoto wadogo tu wanamdandia

 

[xng hua]

Kweli una point muhimu ...pia kujenga lami ya $1billion kwa watu wavivu ni hasara.by anyways .its not like sector nyngne zimeachwa ..almost sector zote zimepewa hela roads,hospitals,rails,ports ,airports ,water ..labda ungeniambia if $1billion ingemalizia reli chap au ingemaliza JNHPP chap..ila bado tungeendelea kuwa na msemo wa hatuna shirika la ndege ..mimi naona angenunua ndege pole pole kama dreamliner mbili kwa wakati mmoja was a very fast move ..hyo $285mil ingepelekwa kwenye reli or jnhpp ku boost ..lakin ndo hvyo no one is perfect

mbona ni kama miradi yote mikubwa anzia, bandari sgr umeme barabara n kama inaendelea kutekelezwa pasipo shida yoyote?

 

[Shebby01]

Unamaanisha kwamba mtu mweusi anaweza kumuoa muhindi huko Tanzania?

Mbona wengi wahindi wameolewa wengine majirani zangu🙂

 

[Simon]

Je wajua kuwa Air Tanzania ndo shirika la ndege linaoloongoza kwa followers wengi Africa nzima??


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watanzania kwenye kufollow vitu/watu instagram tuko vizur.. hao wahusika/watu ni juu yao kutumia hio fursa ya kuwa na followers wengi

 

[Geza Ulole]

Opportunity cost ya kununua ndege cash for a poor country ni kubwa sana. Namaanisha kwamba hio pesa kama ingetumika kufanyia miradi mingine basi ingeleta faida kubwa zaidi kwa uchumi wa Tanzania. Especially considering kwamba neighbours wenu wengi tayari wana airline ikiwemo Kenya na Ethiopia. Kulikuwa na ulazima gani wa kutumia almost $1 billion kununua ndege hizo 11 in cash wakati bado hamjajenga miundo mbinu yenu vizuri? Starting a new airline from scratch is an expensive affair and it is even more expensive to buy aeroplanes instead of leasing them and especially if you are buying upfront without a grace period. The multiplier effect of these purchases will be small. There are no forward or backward linkage industries associated with the purchase. Hakuna industry ambayo itapop up kwa sababu mumenunua ndege 11. Lakini kama mngejenga lami mahali ambapo hakukuwa na lami basi hio itakuwa na impact kubwa zaidi maana itawezesha wakulima kusafirisha mizigo yao to the market. Tatizo lenu kubwa ni kwamba mnataka kukimbizana na Kenya kwenye kila sector. Hii ya kununua ndege 11 in cash mlikurupuka

peleka upumbavu, and what is the opportunity cost for a country like Kenya that has failed to honor the debt it took from Afrieximbank? nashindwa kukuelewa wewe ni economist wa wapi? 👇

KQ State-backed debt rises on weak shilling

The value of Kenya Airways’ debt guaranteed by the taxpayer increased by Sh3.1 billion over the last one year on a weakened shilling against the dollar, data by the Treasury shows.

www.businessdailyafrica.com

KQ State-backed debt rises on weak shilling​

FRIDAY NOVEMBER 13 2020

A Kenya Airways aircraft at JKIA. FILE PHOTO | NMG

By OTIATO GUGUYU
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SUMMARY​

• The value of Kenya Airways’ debt guaranteed by the taxpayer increased by Sh3.1 billion over the last one year on a weakened shilling against the dollar, data by the Treasury shows.
• A public-backed debt is an external obligation of a private debtor that is guaranteed for repayment by a public entity.
• An annual report by Kenya Airways shows the government issued a $750 million (Sh81.8 billion) guarantee to the US Exim Bank and 11 local banks and in return, the carrier issued the government with 184,321,067 shares at Sh7.78 per share.

The value of Kenya Airways’ debt guaranteed by the taxpayer increased by Sh3.1 billion over the last one year on a weakened shilling against the dollar, data by the Treasury shows.

The volume of the national carrier’s debts backed by public taxes jumped from Sh76.7billion in June 2019 to Sh79.8 billion in June this year, mainly on currency movements, according to the newly published Public Debt Management Report. The airline has since 2017 received taxpayer-guaranteed debt to help it restructure loans owed to various parties.

A public-backed debt is an external obligation of a private debtor that is guaranteed for repayment by a public entity.

An annual report by Kenya Airways shows the government issued a $750 million (Sh81.8 billion) guarantee to the US Exim Bank and 11 local banks and in return, the carrier issued the government with 184,321,067 shares at Sh7.78 per share.

“As part of the balance sheet restructuring, the Government of Kenya issued guarantees in the aggregate amount of $750 million in favour of Exim Bank and a consortium of Kenyan banks in relation to certain obligations of the Group and Company to Exim Bank and the consortium of Kenyan Banks,” KQ said.

As at December 2019, the struggling airline owed Sh75 billion in loans that stemmed from purchase of aircraft spare engines and pre-delivery payments for ordered aircrafts.

The aircraft were registered in the name of special entities for the purpose of holding collateral for the financiers, whose equity are held by the security trustees on behalf of the respective financers.

The legal title is to be transferred to Kenya Airways Plc once the loans are fully repaid.

The Export-Import Bank of the United States of America (Eximbank) has guaranteed part of the loan of Sh54 billion taken from Citibank London and J P Morgan under Tsavo financing.

African Export-Import Bank (Afrexim) bank holds Sh15.9 billion financed through Samburu limited.

Kenya taxpayers risk carrying some of the airlines liabilities is KQ is unable to pay.

By the end of December last year, the airline was already in a precarious position having breached liquidity ratios that could trigger the penalty of having to repay debts worth Sh77 billion within one year. KQ obtained waivers from international lenders allowing the breach.

FYI
paying hard cash from GoT has avoided this trap! ☝️

 

[manimac]

Mlifanyaje mkaiteka market ya Russia na Ukraine? Ni marketing tu au kuna la jambo lingine?

kizuri kinajiuza chenyewe mkuu, kama utakuwa unafuatilia now kumekuwa na a large group of African Americans wana repatriate huku tanzania sio watalii tu, na wenyewe wanakwambia wakitouch down kwenye aiport tu ya tanzania tayari wanafeel at home from the warm welcome wanayoipata na wameshacompare other places like ghana, rwanda na kenya amabazo zinajitangaza sana kuwavutia but only tanzania feels like home.

 

[Tony254]

Kweli una point muhimu ...pia kujenga lami ya $1billion kwa watu wavivu ni hasara.by anyways .its not like sector nyngne zimeachwa ..almost sector zote zimepewa hela roads,hospitals,rails,ports ,airports ,water ..labda ungeniambia if $1billion ingemalizia reli chap au ingemaliza JNHPP chap..ila bado tungeendelea kuwa na msemo wa hatuna shirika la ndege ..mimi naona angenunua ndege pole pole kama dreamliner mbili kwa wakati mmoja was a very fast move ..hyo $285mil ingepelekwa kwenye reli or jnhpp ku boost ..lakin ndo hvyo no one is perfect

Anyway zimeshanunuliwa haziwezi kurudishwa. Sasa mnastahili kuzitumia vizuri ili ziwaletee faida kubwa, sio kwamba zilale tu kwenye hangars zikipata kutu. Kwa opinion yangu, hio mambo ya kuzipigisha dreamliner routes za domestic ni makosa makubwa. Watanzania hawana purchasing power kubwa ya kujaza dreamliner kila trip. Kumbuka Dreamliner 787 is one of the biggest aeroplanes in the world. Domestic ingekuwa mnatumia ndege ndogo ndogo kama bombardier ambazo tayari mnazo kadhaa. Hata embraer ingewafaa zaidi katika market yenu ya domestic maana inabeba watu kati ya 80 hadi 120. Halafu ndege kubwa mngezipigisha routes za nje ya nchi. Running an airline is the most difficult business in the world. KQ is doing badly because of mismanagement. SAA is doing badly because of mismanagement. Nigerian airline died because of mismanagement. As a young airline you should learn from the mistakes of KQ, SAA and other African airlines. Ni kazi ngumu sana kurun airlines successfully anywhere in the world except in Europe and America because people in those countries have a high purchasing power. Ethiopian airlines is the only African airline that seems to be run professionally in Africa. There is little government interference and they employ proffesionals from pilots to management. KQ is a good airline that has been run badly by incompetent management.

 

[President of China]

Opportunity cost ya kununua ndege cash for a poor country ni kubwa sana. Namaanisha kwamba hio pesa kama ingetumika kufanyia miradi mingine basi ingeleta faida kubwa zaidi kwa uchumi wa Tanzania. Especially considering kwamba neighbours wenu wengi tayari wana airline ikiwemo Kenya na Ethiopia. Kulikuwa na ulazima gani wa kutumia almost $1 billion kununua ndege hizo 11 in cash wakati bado hamjajenga miundo mbinu yenu vizuri? Starting a new airline from scratch is an expensive affair and it is even more expensive to buy aeroplanes instead of leasing them and especially if you are buying upfront without a grace period. The multiplier effect of these purchases will be small. There are no forward or backward linkage industries associated with the purchase. Hakuna industry ambayo itapop up kwa sababu mumenunua ndege 11. Lakini kama mngejenga lami mahali ambapo hakukuwa na lami basi hio itakuwa na impact kubwa zaidi maana itawezesha wakulima kusafirisha mizigo yao to the market. Tatizo lenu kubwa ni kwamba mnataka kukimbizana na Kenya kwenye kila sector. Hii ya kununua ndege 11 in cash mlikurupuka

Let say idea yako ya kununua vitu pole pole ni sawa.

Nikuulize maswali kadha muhimu huku nikikupatia introduction. Naomba ujibu kama msomi.

1. Shirika la ndege la Tanzania lilikuwa almost dead. Lilikuwa haliaminiki tena kwenye nyanja za kimataifa baada ya Tanzanian kufanya makosa kuingia ubia na shirika la ndege la SA.
Wewe kama mtaalamu utafanya nini iliuweze kulifufua shirika hilo lianze kufanya kazi na kuaminika kisha uondokane na ubia wa wale waliokutapeli!?

2. Shirika la ndege la Tanzania lilibakiwa na ndege moja tena mbovu, huku limeajili watu wengi wakila ruzuku ya serikali bila faida yoyote. Wewe kama mtaalamu wa uchumi ungeshauri nini ili shirika hilo liwe na ndege!?

3. Tanzania inasifika kwa utalii lakini mashirika ya ndege mbalimbali yanaleta nyodo katika kuunganisha routes za ndani. Mfano shirika la ndege la Kenya wanaweza wakaamua wenyewe wanachotaka na kukwamisha uchumi eti tu kwa sababu hatuna ndege.

4. Ujue kuwa na ndege ni pride maana inapaisha nchi katika nchi kadha wa kadha. Juzi tu shirika la ndege la India limeingia ubia na Shirika la ndege la Tanzania. Je, ungewezaje kuingia ubia na India wakati huendi India!?


Naomba unijibu, kumbuka shirika la ndege la Tanzania lilikuwa almost limekufa na haliaminiki kukopeshwa.

 

[Simon]

Anyway zimeshanunuliwa haziwezi kurudishwa. Sasa mnastahili kuzitumia vizuri ili ziwaletee faida kubwa, sio kwamba zilale tu kwenye hangars zikipata kutu. Kwa opinion yangu, hio mambo ya kuzipigisha dreamliner routes za domestic ni makosa makubwa. Watanzania hawana purchasing power kubwa ya kujaza dreamliner kila trip. Kumbuka Dreamliner 787 is one of the biggest aeroplanes in the world. Domestic ingekuwa mnatumia ndege ndogo ndogo kama bombardier ambazo tayari mnazo kadhaa. Hata embraer ingewafaa zaidi katika market yenu ya domestic maana inabeba watu kati ya 80 hadi 120. Halafu ndege kubwa mngezipigisha routes za nje ya nchi. Running an airline is the most difficult business in the world. KQ is doing badly because of mismanagement. SAA is doing badly because of mismanagement. Nigerian airline died because of mismanagement. As a young airline you should learn from the mistakes of KQ, SAA and other African airlines. Ni kazi ngumu sana kurun airlines successfully anywhere in the world except in Europe and America because people in those countries have a high purchasing power. Ethiopian airlines is the only African airline that seems to be run professionally in Africa. There is little government interference and they employ proffesionals from pilots to management. KQ is a good airline that has been run badly by incompetent management.

tuna mamillionaire wengi kuliko nyie afu eti hatuna purchase power? kwan unatuchukuliaje

 

[tuusan]

Anyway zimeshanunuliwa haziwezi kurudishwa. Sasa mnastahili kuzitumia vizuri ili ziwaletee faida kubwa, sio kwamba zilale tu kwenye hangars zikipata kutu. Kwa opinion yangu, hio mambo ya kuzipigisha dreamliner routes za domestic ni makosa makubwa. Watanzania hawana purchasing power kubwa ya kujaza dreamliner kila trip. Kumbuka Dreamliner 787 is one of the biggest aeroplanes in the world. Domestic ingekuwa mnatumia ndege ndogo ndogo kama bombardier ambazo tayari mnazo kadhaa. Hata embraer ingewafaa zaidi katika market yenu ya domestic maana inabeba watu kati ya 80 hadi 120. Halafu ndege kubwa mngezipigisha routes za nje ya nchi. Running an airline is the most difficult business in the world. KQ is doing badly because of mismanagement. SAA is doing badly because of mismanagement. Nigerian airline died because of mismanagement. As a young airline you should learn from the mistakes of KQ, SAA and other African airlines. Ni kazi ngumu sana kurun airlines successfully anywhere in the world except in Europe and America because people in those countries have a high purchasing power. Ethiopian airlines is the only African airline that seems to be run professionally in Africa. There is little government interference and they employ proffesionals from pilots to management. KQ is a good airline that has been run badly by incompetent management.

Ushauri wako Ni poa sana,Izo dreamliner inaenda Mumbai bro...Target ni masafa marefu....Ukiona imetoka dar kwenda Mwanza basi ujue abiria wako wakutosha haiwezi kupack tu....

Kuna deal la kwenda China ni corona ilizingua ila tutaanza kwenda China...pia tunaroute Za Lusaka na Harare ambazo mara nyingi Airbus ndio zinakaba iyo route...

JPM aliamua kuanza miradi yote mikubwa awamu yake ya kwanza akijua kabisa ataendelea nayo hadi anatoka. ..Ndio maana amegusa sekta zote kuanzia kufufua shirika la ndege,kujenga Barabara za mijini na vijijini,Kuboresha miundombinu ya huduma za afya pamoja na kuajiri,kuboresha elimu ,Kujenga reli mpya SGR, Kufufua Za meter gauge,kupanua bandari zote, kujenga madaraja nk. ...

Kwakua alishaanza awamu iliopita sasa hivi ameshafika nusu ya safari hakuna ugumu wowote kumalizia vipande vilivyobaki

 

[Mgagaa na Upwa]

kizuri kinajiuza chenyewe mkuu, kama utakuwa unafuatilia now kumekuwa na a large group of African Americans wana repatriate huku tanzania sio watalii tu, na wenyewe wanakwambia wakitouch down kwenye aiport tu ya tanzania tayari wanafeel at home from the warm welcome wanayoipata na wameshacompare other places like ghana, rwanda na kenya amabazo zinajitangaza sana kuwavutia but only tanzania feels like home.

African america wanaorepatriate Tanzania kama serikali itataka kuwatumia kuna kitu kikubwa tutapata kutoka kwao,jamaa wametokea kuikubali sana nchi yetu kwa jinsi sisi wenyewe tunavyoishi

 

[President of China]

Anyway zimeshanunuliwa haziwezi kurudishwa. Sasa mnastahili kuzitumia vizuri ili ziwaletee faida kubwa, sio kwamba zilale tu kwenye hangars zikipata kutu. Kwa opinion yangu, hio mambo ya kuzipigisha dreamliner routes za domestic ni makosa makubwa. Watanzania hawana purchasing power kubwa ya kujaza dreamliner kila trip. Kumbuka Dreamliner 787 is one of the biggest aeroplanes in the world. Domestic ingekuwa mnatumia ndege ndogo ndogo kama bombardier ambazo tayari mnazo kadhaa. Hata embraer ingewafaa zaidi katika market yenu ya domestic maana inabeba watu kati ya 80 hadi 120. Halafu ndege kubwa mngezipigisha routes za nje ya nchi. Running an airline is the most difficult business in the world. KQ is doing badly because of mismanagement. SAA is doing badly because of mismanagement. Nigerian airline died because of mismanagement. As a young airline you should learn from the mistakes of KQ, SAA and other African airlines. Ni kazi ngumu sana kurun airlines successfully anywhere in the world except in Europe and America because people in those countries have a high purchasing power. Ethiopian airlines is the only African airline that seems to be run professionally in Africa. There is little government interference and they employ proffesionals from pilots to management. KQ is a good airline that has been run badly by incompetent management.

Tatizo lako wewe unaongea mambo tu without research.

Kwanza PPP ya Tanzania ni kubwa kuliko ya Kenya.

Pili tayari zipo route za kwenda Zambia, Zimbabwe, Uganda zinatumiaka Airbus.
Kuna route ya kwenda India na Kwenda China lilikuwa planned but corona.

Route za ndani kuna Airbus na hizi ndogo ndogo.
Usijifanye mjuzi sana kwenye mambo ya uchumi. Wewe jitahidi sana kwenye Accounts mambo ya uchumi waachie wajuzi wayo.

 

[Tony254]

Haina hata shida,mimi mwenyewe na cousin wangu mama yake ni mhindi pure mtafute youtube ni mwanamuziki wa hip hop kitambo tu anaitwa rado,mfano mfuatilie mdosi maarufu huko instagram anaitwa shyrose bhanji,watoto wadogo tu wanamdandia

Wahindi wa huku Kenya wana maringo na madharau sana. Wanawachukia waafrika sana. Hata wanapenda kuishi kivyao na wala hawajichanganyi na waafrika. Wanaona waafrika kama ni mavi ya sokwe.