Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

[Geza Ulole]

Mbona airport terminal ni ndogo sana?

Hii hapa ni kubwa?

 

[joto la jiwe]

Sawa basi nionyeshe mall yoyote Kenya ambayo inamilikiwa na serikali. Hamna

Kwasababu uchumi wenu upo mikononi mwa wazungu, hawawezi ruhusu serikali kumiliki biashara ambazo wao wanafanya

 

[Tony254]

Ila in the US zipo! wacha ku-distort capitalism fala wewe! Sema in Kenya serikali hairuhusiwi na usijaribu kumaanisha ni capitalism! Sema crooked politicians wenyu wanazuia kulinda interests zao kwenye their existing establishments! una wivu wa kijinga mzee!

Measuring the Success of Publicly Owned Hotels

It can be difficult to measure whether publicly owned hotels are performing as expected, driving convention business, or both.

www.hotelnewsnow.com

Sio hotels na malls tu. Hata skyscrappers nyingi Dar nimenotice zimejengwa na serikali. Nyie hamna skyscrappers nyingi ndefu ambazo zimejengwa na private sector. Skyscrappers zinastahili kujengwa na sectors zote mbili, sio moja tu.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Mbona airport terminal ni ndogo sana?

Tunajenga kulingana na mahitaji ya eneo husika, sio ninyi mnajenga station kubwa za reli vijijini zinaishia kuwa magofu

 

[Tony254]

Gunia utaruhusiwa ila mifugo sidhani, huwa inasumbua kdg kuhusu mifugo, labda wenzangu wanajua hilo but kwa experience yangu huwa sioni tukisafiri na mifugo.

Ni vizuri kama hawaruhusu mifugo maana kuku wataanza kunya ovyo ovyo kwenye basi.

 

[Justinr]

Huyu hayupo hapa Mkuu, Na kule hamna Bodaboda labda K-Vant ebbay.

 

[Geza Ulole]

Sio hotels na malls tu. Hata skyscrappers nyingi Dar nimenotice zimejengwa na serikali. Nyie hamna skyscrappers nyingi ndefu ambazo zimejengwa na private sector. Skyscrappers zinastahili kujengwa na sectors zote mbili, sio moja tu.

Just like in the US and the whole western world pension funds invest! Name me one tower built by GoT aside its offices in Government city in Mtumba Dodoma!

Wacha usenge wa kupotosha all the tall buildings in Dar have been built by parastatals (NSSF, LAPF, PSPF e.t.c) or government agencies (NIDA, TPA, TTCL, TCRA e.t.c) and not GoT directly the same thing is happening in Kenya and worst enough stalled as corrupt officials have fleased the funds!

Unajifanya unajua kumbe fala wa kupotosha! KPA Mombasa na NSSF Nairobi nani kajenga? Kenya teleposta, KICC? Au unatufanya sisi wafala kama wewe? Wivu unakusumbua kuona miradi ya taasisi za serikali wakati kwenu taasisi zinashindwa ku-invest!

Kwa hiyo unataka kuniambia hili jengo halijajengwa na CA of Kenya?

And what's the problem if TCRA builds its own office?

 

[joto la jiwe]

Sio hotels na malls tu. Hata skyscrappers nyingi Dar nimenotice zimejengwa na serikali. Nyie hamna skyscrappers nyingi ndefu ambazo zimejengwa na private sector. Skyscrappers zinastahili kujengwa na sectors zote mbili, sio moja tu.

Ujamaa vs Ubepari. Mapato yatokanayo na " investments" za serikali hutumika kujenga shule, reli, Hospitali na huduma zingine za kijamii, hiyo ndio sababu TZ tunajenga miradi mikubwa kwa pesa yetu.

 

[mwathadan]

Sio hotels na malls tu. Hata skyscrappers nyingi Dar nimenotice zimejengwa na serikali. Nyie hamna skyscrappers nyingi ndefu ambazo zimejengwa na private sector. Skyscrappers zinastahili kujengwa na sectors zote mbili, sio moja tu.

Tz private sector ni hafifu ndo maana serikali ilipositisha ujenzi wa magorofa nayo real estate yao ikacollapse

 

[Justinr]

Kama hii ni tower, basi malazy ni wafupi sana.
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Nyie niwarefu zaidi

 

[Tony254]

Just like in the US and the whole western world pension funds invest! Name me one tower built by GoT!

Wacha usenge wa kupotosha all the tall buildings in Dar have been built by parastatals or government agencies (NIDA, TPA, TTCL, TCRA e.t.c) and not GoT directly the same thing is happening in Kenya and worst enough stalled as corrupt officials have fleased the funds!

Unajifanya unajua kumbe fala wa kupotosha!

Nitakuonyesha nani fala kati yangu na wewe. Hapa Kenya sectors zote mbili zinajenga skyscrappers, sio kama huko kwenu ambapo public sector ndio inajenga skyscrappers sana. By the way neno serikali ina jumlisha hata parastatals na pension funds za kiserikali. Neno private sector inamaanisha kampuni za kibinafsi kama Tigo, Vodacom TZ, Airtel TZ, CRDB bank, NMB bank, Tanzania breweries Ltd na kadhalika. Nipe picha tatu za skyscrappers (with more than 25 floors) Dar ambazo hazijajengwa na halmashauri yoyote ya kiserikali au pension fund ya kiserikali.
Halafu mimi nitakupa list ya skyscrappers zilizojengwa na private sector hapa Kenya.

 

[President of China]

Just like in the US and the whole western world pension funds invest! Name me one tower built by GoT!

Wacha usenge wa kupotosha all the tall buildings in Dar have been built by parastatals (NSSF, LAPF, PSPF e.t.c) or government agencies (NIDA, TPA, TTCL, TCRA e.t.c) and not GoT directly the same thing is happening in Kenya and worst enough stalled as corrupt officials have fleased the funds!

Unajifanya unajua kumbe fala wa kupotosha! KPA Mombasa na NSSF Nairobi nani kajenga? Kenya teleposta, KICC? Au unatufanya sisi wafala kama wewe? Wivu unakusumbua kuona miradi ya taasisi za serikali wakati kwenu taasisi zinashindwa ku-invest!

Hawa jamaa ni wajinga sana.

 

[joto la jiwe]

Tz private sector ni hafifu ndo maana serikali ilipositisha ujenzi wa magorofa nayo real estate yao ikacollapse

Serikali yoyote lazima iwe stronger kuliko private sector, kinyume chake matajiri watakua na nguvu kuliko viongozi kama ilivyo huko Kenya, viongozi ni vibaraka wa matajiri, wananchi wa kawaida wanateswa na kunyanyaswa na matajiri na hawana wa kuwatetea.

 

[President of China]

Nitakuonyesha nani fala kati yangu na wewe. Hapa Kenya sectors zote mbili zinajenga skyscrappers, sio kama huko kwenu ambapo public sector ndio inajenga skyscrappers sana. By the way neno serikali ina jumlisha hata parastatals na pension funds za kiserikali. Neno private sector inamaanisha kampuni za kibinafsi kama Tigo, Vodacom TZ, Airtel TZ, CRDB bank, NMB bank, Tanzania breweries Ltd na kadhalika. Nipe picha tatu za skyscrappers (with more than 25 floors) Dar ambazo hazijajengwa na halmashauri yoyote ya kiserikali au pension fund ya kiserikali.

Wewe ni mpuuzi na mjinga kaa kimya usitake tufanane.

Hivi MNF more than 30fl ni ya baba yako!?

 

[Justinr]

Sio hotels na malls tu. Hata skyscrappers nyingi Dar nimenotice zimejengwa na serikali. Nyie hamna skyscrappers nyingi ndefu ambazo zimejengwa na private sector. Skyscrappers zinastahili kujengwa na sectors zote mbili, sio moja tu.

Wacha masihara ...embu taja skyscrapper moja iliyo jengww na serikali moja tu...

 

[Geza Ulole]

Hawa jamaa ni wajinga sana.

wivu unawasumbua wanajua katika hiyo front wamefeli! Kinachobaki ni kudai kila jengo linajengwa na serikali!

NSSF Kenya Hazina tower

Intrigues of 25-year old works on NSSF Hazina Towers

The block's design has been changed more than twice and costs reviewed upwards.

www.the-star.co.ke

 

[tuusan]

Nyie niwarefu zaidiView attachment 1662700

 

[Justinr]

Tz private sector ni hafifu ndo maana serikali ilipositisha ujenzi wa magorofa nayo real estate yao ikacollapse

Kwaiyo uhafif umefany serikal kuongeza ukusanyaji wa kodi...nyie ni kichaa inawasumbua

 

[The best 007]

Ni vizuri kama hawaruhusu mifugo maana kuku wataanza kunya ovyo ovyo kwenye basi.

Sio kunya tu kwa watu wastaarabu km watanzania hatuwezi kusafiri na mifugo ndani ya bus, kuna usafiri wake

 

[Tony254]

Ujamaa vs Ubepari. Mapato yatokanayo na " investments" za serikali hutumika kujenga shule, reli, Hospitali na huduma zingine za kijamii, hiyo ndio sababu TZ tunajenga miradi mikubwa kwa pesa yetu.

Wewe umechanganyikiwa. Tanzania iliwacha kuwa nchi ya kijamaa zaidi ya miaka ishirini iliyopita. Wewe hata hujui historia ya nchi yako. Yaani bado unafikiri kuwa Tanzania ni socialist country? Baada ya Mwalimu Julius Nyerere kufariki, Watanzania walikaa chini na kujadiliana na kukubaliana kuwa mfumo wa ujamaa sio nzuri kwa uchumi wa Tanzania na Tanzania ikaamua kubadili mfumo wa uchumi kutoka socialist hadi capitalist. Jifunze historia ya nchi yako kabla uje kudebate na mimi.