Will the Kabila Government Fall as rebels move toward Goma ?

[Wun]

Tanzania inazidi kupata reason ya kuingiza majeshi congo,Tanzania walikuwa wanasubiri sababu kama hizo ili kupata baraka za jumuia za kimataifa.

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[Juniour K]

Nakupa kwanza pole Jose kabange Kabila, nakumbuka ulipokuwa unasoma kule Mbeya na kurudi likizo Dar-es-Salaam (Msasani) kwa mzee Laurent Kabila ulikuwa mpole, nakusifu uliendelea na upole huo mpaka wakati umeenda kuchukua mafunzo ya kijeshi ndani na nje ya nchi, naona Mzee Laurent alikuwa na muono wa mbali kukuandaa mapema kwa shughuli ya kuichukua Zaire kwa sasa Congo.

Mlifanikisha lengo na Mzee kabila akakamata usukani wa kuendesha nchi, lkn kosa alilofanya ni kutowalipa askari wake vizuri na makosa mengine ya kiutendaji, mbona unapita mlemle alimopita Laurent baba yako? Wale jamaa vibaraka wa Mobutu Ssesseko walipokuwa wanaamua Patrice Lumumba aliwaambia maneno nanukuu "Congo will never be at peace"!

Damu ya Patrice inawalilia mzee na itaigharimu Congo.

 

[Mamzalendo]

mh mh mh sasa una ushauri gani kwake maana maji yakishamwagika hayazoleki dawa ni toba tu.

 

[Nyalotsi]

Leo nimeona mpaka polisi wanashngilia kuwa waasi! Wamesahau kulipa wanajeshi wakidhani watapona? Watu wanaenda vitani huku wakilalamika njaa? Kwa nini wasikimbie na kuacha silaha? Chezea madini wewe!!

 

[Ab-Titchaz]

The corpse of a Congolese government soldier lies on a road linking the provisional capital Goma with Sake, in eastern Congo, Wednesday, Nov. 21, 2012. The soldier was killed after government forces retreated from an assault on Goma by the M23 rebels, who successfully captured the strategic city on Tuesday. Thousands of Congolese soldiers and policemen defected to the M23 rebels Wednesday, as rebel leaders vowed to take control of all Congo, including the capital Kinshasa.(AP Photo/Marc Hofer)
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[Ab-Titchaz]

A soldier from the M23 rebel group looks on as thousands of Congolese people listen during an M23 rally, in Goma, eastern Congo, Wednesday, Nov. 21, 2012. Thousands of Congolese soldiers and policemen defected to the M23 rebels Wednesday, as rebel leaders vowed to take control of all Congo, including the capital Kinshasa. The rebels organized a rally at Goma's Stadium of Volcanoes after seizing control of the strategic city in eastern Congo Tuesday.

Congo government policemen, foreground, and civilians gather during a M23 rally in Goma, Congo, Wednesday, Nov. 21, 2012. A rebel group believed to be backed by Rwanda seized the strategic, provincial capital of Goma in eastern Congo on Tuesday, home to more than 1 million people as well as an international airport in a development that threatens to spark a new, regional war, officials and witnesses said.
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[Ab-Titchaz]

A Congo government policeman shake hands with an M23 rebel, after he and other policemen handed their weapons in to M23 rebels during a M23 rally in Goma, Congo, Wednesday, Nov. 21, 2012. A rebel group believed to be backed by Rwanda seized the strategic, provincial capital of Goma in eastern Congo on Tuesday, home to more than 1 million people as well as an international airport in a development that threatens to spark a new, regional war, officials and witnesses said.

A Congo government policeman hands in his weapon to M23 rebels during an M23 rally in Goma, Congo, Wednesday, Nov. 21, 2012. A rebel group believed to be backed by Rwanda seized the strategic, provincial capital of Goma in eastern Congo on Tuesday, home to more than 1 million people as well as an international airport in a development that threatens to spark a new, regional war, officials and witnesses said.
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[Ab-Titchaz]

Congolese citizens look at tank shells lying next to the roadside, left behind by retreating government troops as they fled an assault by M23 rebels, in eastern Congo, Wednesday, Nov. 21, 2012. Thousands of Congolese soldiers and policemen defected to the M23 rebels Wednesday, as rebel leaders vowed to take control of all Congo, including the capital Kinshasa. The rebels organized a rally at Goma's Stadium of Volcanoes Wednesday after seizing control of the strategic city in eastern Congo Tuesday.

A Congolese army tank overlooking Munigi and the road to Rutshuru where fighting between the M23 and the Congolese army has been taking place in the past days near Goma, Congo, Monday, Nov. 19, 2012. Rebels believed to be backed by Rwanda fired mortars and machine guns Monday in a village on the outskirts of the provincial capital of Goma and threatened to attack the city which is protected by ragtag Congolese government troops backed by United Nations peacekeepers. The gunfire and explosions erupted in the early afternoon, hours after the M23 rebels said they were halting fighting in order to negotiate with the government of Congo.

M23 rebel soldiers take positions near the Heal Africa hospital in the center of Goma, Congo, Tuesday, Nov. 20, 2012. A rebel group created just seven months ago seized the strategic provincial capital of Goma, home to more than 1 million people in eastern Congo, and its international airport on Tuesday, officials and witnesses said, raising the specter of a regional war.

A M23 rebel soldier looks back as he and others take positions near the Heal Africa hospital in the center of Goma, Congo, Tuesday, Nov. 20, 2012. A rebel group created just seven months ago seized the strategic provincial capital of Goma, home to more than 1 million people in eastern Congo, and its international airport on Tuesday, officials and witnesses said, raising the specter of a regional war.

People walk past as M23 rebel soldier's take positions near the Heal Africa hospital in the center of Goma, Congo, Tuesday, Nov. 20, 2012. A rebel group created just seven months ago seized the strategic provincial capital of Goma, home to more than 1 million people in eastern Congo, and its international airport on Tuesday, officials and witnesses said, raising the specter of a regional war.
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[Ab-Titchaz]

An 11-year-old boy, accompanied by his father, receives treatment at the HEAL Africa hospital after being shot in the abdomen during a firefight between Congolese police and attacking M23 rebels, in Goma, eastern Congo, Wednesday, Nov. 21, 2012. Thousands of Congolese soldiers and policemen defected to the M23 rebels Wednesday, as rebel leaders vowed to take control of all Congo, including the capital Kinshasa.
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[Ab-Titchaz]

REFILE - CORRECTING TYPO M23 rebels guard weapons given to them by the government's army in Goma November 21, 2012. Rebel forces in eastern Congo said on Wednesday they planned to take control of the whole of the vast central African country after they captured the eastern town of Goma while United Nations peacekeepers looked on. REUTERS/James Akena
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[Ndibalema]

Yote hiyo inatokana na kiu ya madaraka na madini au kuna kingine?

 

[Miwatamu]

Kwa ujumla suala la vita ya DR Congo dhidi ya waasi ambao kwa mshangao mkubwa wameweza kuiteka miji muhimu katika nchi hiyo bila kupata upinzani wowote toka kwa majeshi ya Serikali na yale ya UN, inatufanya tulitafakali kwa undani zaidi.

Binafsi napenda kujiaminisha kuwa yawezekana majeshi ya serikali yaliweka imani kubwa sana kwenye jeshi la UN na kuliona kuwa kwao jeshi hilo ni sawa na ukuta wa shaba, lakini ikumbukwe kuwa watu haohao wanaweza kugeuka na kuwa ndumila kuwili kwa kuwapumbaza wanajeshi wa serikali ili sehemu hiyo itwaliwe na waasi kwa minajili ya kuzifaidisha nchi za wenzetu ukizingatia kuwa eneo hilo ndilo eneo lenye utajiri mkubwa wa madini ya dhahabu na shaba.

Kwa picha hii, vita ya Congo inaweza isiishe mapema kutokana na baadhi ya nchi za wenzetu kuangalia maslahi zaidi kuliko kuleta amani katika eneo hilo.

Je, ni kweli tuendelee kuyategemea haya majeshi ya UN (hasa kutoka nje ya africa) ili kuleta amani katika nchi zetu za africa?

 

[Kigogo]

DRC hawana jeshi ni mautumbo matupu..wanajeshi wanapigana vita huku wana njaa..mishahara hawajalipwa unategemea nini ..to hell with them

 

[Rukiko]

mbaya zaidi mambo kama haya yanafika kwet sasa. ugunduzi wa mafuta, gesi na madini mengine huko mtwara/ lindi na pwani-ikjumuisha zanzibar na pemba hayatauacha salama. wanakuja na tumeanza kuwaruhusu kwa kutupa misaada feki ya kutujengea kigamboni, miradi ya maji, miradi ya gesi n.k.wakiishajikita mizizi-hatubaki salama. mikataba ile waliyoingia akina mangungo wa msovero inarudiu na itatumaliza......

Kwa ujumla suala la vita ya DR Congo dhidi ya waasi ambao kwa mshangao mkubwa wameweza kuiteka miji muhimu katika nchi hiyo bila kupata upinzani wowote toka kwa majeshi ya Serikali na yale ya UN, inatufanya tulitafakali kwa undani zaidi.
Binafsi napenda kujiaminisha kuwa yawezekana majeshi ya serikali yaliweka imani kubwa sana kwenye jeshi la UN na kuliona kuwa kwao jeshi hilo ni sawa na ukuta wa shaba, lakini ikumbukwe kuwa watu haohao wanaweza kugeuka na kuwa ndumila kuwili kwa kuwapumbaza wanajeshi wa serikali ili sehemu hiyo itwaliwe na waasi kwa minajili ya kuzifaidisha nchi za wenzetu ukizingatia kuwa eneo hilo ndilo eneo lenye utajiri mkubwa wa madini ya dhahabu na shaba.
Kwa picha hii, vita ya Congo inaweza isiishe mapema kutokana na baadhi ya nchi za wenzetu kuangalia maslahi zaidi kuliko kuleta amani katika eneo hilo.
Je, ni kweli tuendelee kuyategemea haya majeshi ya UN (hasa kutoka nje ya africa) ili kuleta amani katika nchi zetu za africa?

 

[Morinyo]

Sioni tofauti yako na hawa wanaong'ang'ana kwenye katiba yao kuwa Tanzania ni nchi ya kijamaa. Ni uimara gani unaouzungumzia wa jeshi lililosheheni vifaa tulivyonunua vikiwa chakavu. Unapoongelea jeshi lililomtoa Amin, unaongelea jeshi tofauti kabisa na hili la leo. Nani kati ya makamanda wa jeshi kipindi hicho aangefikiria kupiga dili apate vijisenti vya kuficha Uswisi? Use yor brain man / woman.

Usicheze kabisa na JWTZ, kama hujui usiongee kabisa. Kwa taarifa yako tukienda kwenye mapambano tunafyeka mpaka mizizi.

 

[Morinyo]

Thubutu yako wewe unafikiri Idd Amin tulimpiga peke yetu?

Mwingine alikua nani?

 

[Shadow]

Kwa ujumla suala la vita ya DR Congo dhidi ya waasi ambao kwa mshangao mkubwa wameweza kuiteka miji muhimu katika nchi hiyo bila kupata upinzani wowote toka kwa majeshi ya Serikali na yale ya UN, inatufanya tulitafakali kwa undani zaidi.

Binafsi napenda kujiaminisha kuwa yawezekana majeshi ya serikali yaliweka imani kubwa sana kwenye jeshi la UN na kuliona kuwa kwao jeshi hilo ni sawa na ukuta wa shaba, lakini ikumbukwe kuwa watu haohao wanaweza kugeuka na kuwa ndumila kuwili kwa kuwapumbaza wanajeshi wa serikali ili sehemu hiyo itwaliwe na waasi kwa minajili ya kuzifaidisha nchi za wenzetu ukizingatia kuwa eneo hilo ndilo eneo lenye utajiri mkubwa wa madini ya dhahabu na shaba.

Kwa picha hii, vita ya Congo inaweza isiishe mapema kutokana na baadhi ya nchi za wenzetu kuangalia maslahi zaidi kuliko kuleta amani katika eneo hilo.

Je, ni kweli tuendelee kuyategemea haya majeshi ya UN (hasa kutoka nje ya africa) ili kuleta amani katika nchi zetu za africa?

Mkuu Natural Resources za Kongo ndo kiini cha yote hayo. Naomba usome historia ya Congo kuanzia Uhuru, Kina Kasavubu, Tshombe, CIA etc hakuna hata mmoja anayeweza kusimamia maslahi ya nchi hiyo ila wakongo wenyewe kwani wadau wote wanachumia tumbo!!

 

[Fidel80]

Wale wa Congo ni mgambo tu sio wanajeshi

 

[Mr Rocky]

Hao watoto na wananchi wasio na hati awanajukuta katika vita ambavyo hawakuvitegemea

 

[nyabhera]

M23 ni sawa na genge la majambazi hakuna mtu anayewaunga mkono huko Goma. ni watusi vibarakaka wa Kagame na Kabarega.
jiulize swali.. walioroka jeshini watu 370 wakaanzisha vita wakakimbilia Rwanda. waliporudi wamekuja watu zaidi ya Elfu mbili.