Will the Kabila Government Fall as rebels move toward Goma ?

kawakama

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MKUU usijidanganye na International laws,hazina impact katika dunia ya sasa coz INTERNATIONAL LAWS IS AN INTERNATIONAL POLITICS na do maana haziwezi kuwa applied world wide hadi hapo nchi husika itakapo RATIFY NA KUDOMESTICT(DOMESTICATE) sheria husika ,but kama haita kubaria KU RATIFY(KURIDHIA) its is VOID to a certain country
Mkuu kwa nini uingilie internal affairs of sovereign state!,this is strickly prohibited by international laws!
 

Njowepo

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Kuna usanii apo yaani UN troops retreated peaceful!!!!????
Wakubwa watakuwa wanafaidika apo si bure
 

Mbelwa Germano

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ukuba wa inchi si lazima uwiane na uwezo kijeshi!!mfano israel na tanzania,cuba,uk nk pia ili kujenga jeshi nzuri inatakiwa ichi inatakiwa itengemane!!pia inategeme na uwezo binafsi wa mtawala.
 

cerezo

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asante kwa kuiweka sawa, huo ndio ukweli, maana wiki iliyopita hao jamaa wa m23 walichapwa na wote wakakimbilia rwanda na walikuwa na vifaa vya kawaida kabisa, lakini sasa wamerudi wakiwa na vifaa vya kisasa pamoja na jeshi lenye nguvu kali lililowawezesha kuichukua goma
source? Inaonekana hii umeiota...au ni ushabiki tu ili uonekane na wewe uko up to date...
 

Mbelwa Germano

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ukuba wa inchi si lazima uwiane na uwezo kijeshi!!mfano israel na tanzania,cuba,uk nk pia ili kujenga jeshi nzuri inatakiwa ichi inatakiwa itengemane!!pia inategeme na uwezo binafsi wa mtawala.
 

MaxShimba

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CONGO 20MILLION DIE AND THE WORLD SILENT: The role that the America/Isreal and its allies, Rwanda/Uganda, have played in the greatest humanitarian crisis at the dawn of the 21st century..
The footprints of the West are also quite prominent in some of the worst cases of misrule in Africa. The West killed Lumumba and installed Mobutu. How many years and people did the Congo lose? It decapitated Nkrumah's regime. How many years

and the people did Ghana lose? It waged a war against Angola through UNITA. How many years and people did Angola lose? It prolonged Apartheid in South Africa. How many years and people did South Africa, Angola, Mozambique, Lesotho, Swaziland, Namibia, Zambia, and Zimbabwe lose? It Installed Idi Amin in Uganda. How many years and people did Uganda lose? It installed Kagame in Rwanda and Kagame has plunged the Great Lakes Region into war with 8million dead. How many years and more people will that region lose? We have yet to know how Libya turn out. But Libya was one of Africa's best countries if not the best. Gaddafi's head is barely on his shoulders. How many years will Libya lose? The west invaded Ivory Coast and installed pupet as a leader how many more people will Ivorians lose?,U.S train military to tople democratic goverment in Mali for Al quida to invade mali how many people Mali will lose?What exactly is the monetary value of these costs to Africa?
Congo 20million dead the role US and its allies played - YouTube
 

Tango73

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CONGO 20MILLION DIE AND THE WORLD SILENT: The role that the America/Isreal and its allies, Rwanda/Uganda, have played in the greatest humanitarian crisis at the dawn of the 21st century..
The footprints of the West are also quite prominent in some of the worst cases of misrule in Africa. The West killed Lumumba and installed Mobutu. How many years and people did the Congo lose? It decapitated Nkrumah's regime. How many years

and the people did Ghana lose? It waged a war against Angola through UNITA. How many years and people did Angola lose? It prolonged Apartheid in South Africa. How many years and people did South Africa, Angola, Mozambique, Lesotho, Swaziland, Namibia, Zambia, and Zimbabwe lose? It Installed Idi Amin in Uganda. How many years and people did Uganda lose? It installed Kagame in Rwanda and Kagame has plunged the Great Lakes Region into war with 8million dead. How many years and more people will that region lose? We have yet to know how Libya turn out. But Libya was one of Africa's best countries if not the best. Gaddafi's head is barely on his shoulders. How many years will Libya lose? The west invaded Ivory Coast and installed pupet as a leader how many more people will Ivorians lose?,U.S train military to tople democratic goverment in Mali for Al quida to invade mali how many people Mali will lose?What exactly is the monetary value of these costs to Africa?
Congo 20million dead the role US and its allies played - YouTube
iF THEY KILLED lumumba, that was good job! If they helped savimbi, that was good job! Because these people who wanted to intall communisim in africa, were devil worshiper and hated christianity value. I bet the author is a non christoian
 

HUGO CHAVES

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I remember one time louis moreno ocampo issued a warrant from the hague to kagame.why this is not happenning .
 

Informer

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By RISDEL KASASIRA | The Monitor | Nov 28, 2012

Kampala, Uganda - The Chief of Defence Forces, Gen. Aronda Nyakairima, has said the Congolese rebel group, M23 have agreed to withdraw from the city of Goma within 48 hours.

Gen. Nyakairima yesterday told journalists in Kampala that the agreement was reached in a meeting he had with the commander of the rebels, Col. Sultani Makenga in Kampala on Monday night. “By Mid-day November 27 (yesterday), the M23 begins withdrawal from Goma to a selected ground of tactical importance, while leaving a company of 100 (fighters) at the airport. This withdrawal is to be completed within 48 hours,” he said.

The proposed international neutral force and the Congolese force will also each deploy 100 troops to make a force of 300 to be stationed at the airport for the initial three months. The withdrawal will see Congolese government forces regain control of Goma, which they had fled as the M23 fighters advanced towards the city.

President Museveni is the chairperson of a regional body, International Conference on Great Lakes Region, that has been mediating talks between DR Congo and M23 since July. Goma is the provincial capital of North Kivu, in the eastern DR Congo, a region that has experienced wars for the last decade.

Two military observers from each ICGLR member country will be deployed at the airport as part of the observers to monitor the process. The rebels are also expected to pullout of the town of Sake as negotiations with Kinshasa government to solve their concerns continue.

The United Nations Mission Stabilisation Mission of Congo (MONUSCO), will secure a buffer zone by means of “inter-position” between the new position of M23 and the Congolese forces. Gen. Nyakairima, who is also coordinating the withdrawal, also said the Congolese police which had surrendered its guns to the M23 rebels, were expected by mid-day yesterday to get their guns back and start policing the city.

A ICGLR meeting in Kampala on Saturday told the government of the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) to “listen and resolve the grievances of the rebels”. This was one of the 10 resolutions agreed upon by president’s Yoweri Museveni of Uganda, Mwai Kibaki of Kenya, Jakaya Kikwete of Tanzania and DRC’s Joseph Kabila.
 

snochet

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nasikia M23 originates from the word March 23rd,je ni nini kilitokea that day,na ilikuwa mwaka gani?...kama si hivyo je ni nini maana ya neno M23?
 

Informer

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nasikia M23 originates from the word March 23rd,je ni nini kilitokea that day,na ilikuwa mwaka gani?...kama si hivyo je ni nini maana ya neno M23?
Congo: March 23 Movement (M23)

The March 23 Movement (French: Mouvement du 23-Mars), often abbreviated as M23, is a rebel military group based in eastern areas of the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), mainly operating in the province of North Kivu. The group is currently involved in an armed conflict with the DRC government which has led to the displacement of large numbers of people. On 20 November 2012, M23 took control of Goma, a provincial capital with a population of one million people

On 23 March 2009, the National Congress for the Defence of the People (CNDP) signed a peace treaty with the DRC government, where it became a political party, and the M23 soldiers integrated into the Armed Forces of the Democratic Republic of the Congo (FARDC). M23 takes its name from the date of these peace accords (March 23). The army wing of the group is led by General Makenga Sultani; and the president of the group is Bishop Jean-Marie Runiga Lugerero, a former CNDP member.

The M23 was formed on 4 April 2012 when nearly 300 soldiers, a majority of them former members of the National Congress for the Defence of the People (CNDP), turned against the DRC government, citing poor conditions in the army and the government's unwillingness to implement the 23 March 2009 peace deal. General Bosco Ntaganda, also known as "The Terminator", was accused of leading the group, and President Kabila called for his arrest on 11 April 2012. The government had threatened to redeploy former CNDP soldiers away from North Kivu before the full implementation of the peace agreement, which prompted many of them to defect from the army and create the M23.

The M23 is made up primarily of Tutsis and opposes the Hutu Power militia Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda (FDLR) as well as area Mai-Mai (community militias).

Following military successes, M23 rebels have made additional demands, citing issues of human rights, democracy, as well as good governance, and have accused president Kabila of cheating in the November 2011 elections. The rebels have also threatened to march on Kinshasa and depose the president.
 

Nyalotsi

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In Leadership only heavens know the truth
hii hoja ya kitoto sana. Mapigano ya drc yapo tangu wanapata uhuru, yamesambaa kuelekea nchi gani nyingine mpaka leo? Kwa nini muingilie vita ya watu ambao hawajawaambia tunaomba msaada?
 

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[video=youtube_share;ptdVHo481eI]http://youtu.be/ptdVHo481eI[/video]

The US role in the DR Congo conflict

Rebels in the eastern DR Congo say they have begun withdrawing from territory they captured from government troops. About 500,000 people have fled their homes during seven months of fighting. The violence has been particularly disturbing, coming less than ten years after the end of the Congo War that killed some 5.4 million people. The US dispatched a state department official to the region but has been careful to spare its allies anything beyond symbolic sanction, even after a UN report concluded that Rwanda and Uganda are backing the M23 rebels.
 

simplemind

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Drastic as it may seem, probably secession of East Congo is the only solution to Congo woes, a country perenially in conflict with itself.
 

MKUU WA KAYA

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Kagame ni adui namba moja wa amani na ustawi wa bara la afrika na dunia, umwagaji damu unaoendelea congo ni uchu na tamaa ya kagame kutaka kujilimbikizia mali na kulitawala bara la afrika akiwa mbele ya watusi. Remember, wakongo hawapigani congo, wanyarwanda ndio wanao ua wakongo kwa kisingizio cha uasi!!!!swali, kwanini jeshi la congo limeshindwa kujitetea?
kaka inasemekana amiri jeshi mkuu wa jeshi la kongo (Raisi J.Kabila) ni mtusi,sasa huoni kama na yeye hayuko tayari kwenda against Tusi movement inayoongozwa na kagame pamoja na museven?
 

malema 1989

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kaka inasemekana amiri jeshi mkuu wa jeshi la kongo (Raisi J.Kabila) ni mtusi,sasa huoni kama na yeye hayuko tayari kwenda against Tusi movement inayoongozwa na kagame pamoja na museven?
kumbuka Kabila aliwekwa madarakani kwa nguvu za Rwanda,Uganda na Angola pamoja na Zimbabwe kwa masilahi yao tofauti. Rwanda na uganda wakitaka kugawana ardhi na rasilimali nyingine za wacongo! huku angola wakitaka msaada wa kumkamata Dr.Jonas Savimbi.
 

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