My proposition did not concern itself with specific numbers or measurements.
Just the fact that however fine your current measurements are, if they tell you that you are agnostic, they are not fine enough. Once you examine things closely enough you will conclude that you are either on one side or another.
So throwing a number that show your kens is very fine does nit contradict my proposition.
Mi kama unapina uzito wa kilo moja kamili.
Unaweza kupata kilo moja up to a certain decimal places, ukiongeza precision utakuta uzito umepungua au kuzidi kilo moja.
Yes.
First thing first, the framework being logic, the godhead being omnipotent, omniscient and omni benevolent (and therefore humanly knowable) on the one hand (proposition p) who created a world that allows evil even as he was capable of creating a world in which evil is not possible (proposition negative p)
This godhead idea contradicts itself by giving us two opposing propositions.
P = - P.
God does not exist.
Because the idea of this God says he does not exist.
Maybe what?Okay, wewe hitimisho la kwamba darubini yangu niitumiayo kufanyia uchunguzi haina ubora wa kutosha kwa sababu inanipa au hainipi majibu yaliyo dhahiri, umelifikiaje?
Unalazimisha kuwa ukifanya uchunguzi wa kina basi ni lazima utapata jibu moja kati ya mawili yawezekanayo.
Kwa nini tu kuwe 'either-or' na kusiwepo na 'maybe'?
Huyu Mungu ambaye hayupo unamjua?Anayesema hakubali kwamba Mungu yupo na kutoa nafasi ya kuthibitishiwa kwamba Mungu yupo na anayesema Mungu yupo nani anasema anajua kitu hapo?
In logic, self contradiction means that which gives that contradiction does not exist as construed.So to you, if something contradicts itself, that means it doesn't exist?
Self-contradiction = nonexistence?
Maybe what?
Isn't "either a or b" the same as "maybe a, maybe b" ?
What is the difference?
Naweza kusema hakuna pembetatu ambayo pia ni duara katika Euclidean geometry siyo?Huyu Mungu ambaye hayupo unamjua?
Maana kama mtu unasema kitu fulani hakipo ina maanisha kwamba hicho kitu ambacho hakipo unakijua, kwasababu una vielelezo tosha juu ya kutokuwepo kwake na kwamba kama kingekuwepo kungekuwa na vielelezo gani.
In terms of set theory, how would you write this maybe of yours?Okay, 'either-or' means that there is a choice between two things whereby both of them together are not possible. Either god exists or he doesn't. You are either a theist or an atheist. It's definite.
Maybe is the in-between. If not certain that something is true or not, then 'maybe' is your go-to refuge.
So if you say 'maybe god exists, maybe he doesn't', that is not the same as 'god exists or god doesn't exist'.
In logic, self contradiction means that which gives that contradiction does not exist as construed.
You remind me of a J.B.S Haldane quote. For more on him see J. B. S. Haldane - WikiquotePerfect!
That is precisely what I have been positing all along albeit in other words.
I have always asked the question that what if the people who claim god exists are way off beam in their understanding?
What if he does exist but maybe he is not all that as advertised?
What would you say then?
Nimekujibu.
Why would God's book need scholars?
God couln't make his book so simple and clear to the extent that it does not need scholars?
Quran inajichanganya.hebu soma Quran ya tafisiri ya kiswahili basi utaona its the most simple book to understand...please I love you Kiranga dont be like that, you cant ignore the presence of the Almighty creator as you are doing now..please please stop that..
..haha!!i laughed alot after reading this comment starting from u not being able to understand the meaning of the word spirit to the Point of asking Its sexWhat is that spirit u a talking about...? do u mean he is invisible??? And why He and not she???...
..hizo zote ni Aftermath za kutenda dhambi,since sin Originated from Satan znakuwa perceived ni zakeJe unataka kutuambia majanga ni kazi ya shetani??? Manake mnasemaga mabaya yote ni ya shetani.... kama Mungu ameumba dunia, mwezi, je, vimbuka, matetemeko ni ya nani???
..from Your Point Ov view,mtu akinifanyia kibaya nikatabasamu/cheka kinakuwa Justified kuwa ni kizuri eeh?!Jambo baya au zuri halihitaji Mungu kulijua... if I beat u.. u will get hurt and u will respond back or stay out of my way.... mwizi anapokuja kukuibia u will get angry and even cry.. jambo zuri its all about smile, laugh and comfort... jambo baya its all about crying, anger or being unhappy.... u don't need God to recognise these...
..its not the Limited capacity that fatoms hio understanding,hio huja from reading books especially the religious booksWhy hiyo limited capacity inatuambia Mungu alisema hivi Mungu alisema vile... mboya haya mambo above ur limited capacity??? Umeyajuaje haya???
Mimi nikufafanulie maelezo ya maxime ? Kwa sababu nakujua vizuri upeo wako?
Nakujua vizuri wewe ni mke wangu?
Mwanamme unaniambia mwanamme mwenzako nakujua vizuri wakati sijawahi hata kukutia machoni?
Unajua kwa wengine hiyo ni kashfa hapo? Tulikutana wapi mpaka mimi nikujue vizuri upeo wako wewe?
Upeo gani? Unaongelea upeo au kukosa upeo?
Yes umejibu vema na kwa mantikiSome of the answers you will never get because you are not GOD. However naweza nikasema kuwa Mungu hufanya vitu logically ingawa hafungwi na logical. Yeye ndiye muasisi wa logic ambayo tunaijua sisi. ( Mungu ni yeye yule Jana, Leo na hata milele).
(Ikumbukwe kuwa kila kitu katika ulimwengu ni logical, we just see some of them illogical because we can't comprehend them using our normal brains).
I knw you will start to ask me questions like 'Can God create pembetatu duara'? I will answer as follow;
Out of our normal logic, its impossible, but, as God is not limited with logic, then we may conclude that God can do anything even things we can not imagine .
You may also ask this question, "Can God create a triangle for which sum of angles are greater than 180°? Then I answer as follows;
1. Degrees is a human invention. Therefore, if a man wanted the triangle to have 1000°, they would do it.
2. In more than two dimensions, (I.e. for example in three dimensions) triangles may have more than 180° logically.
To sum up, our God exist outside our known dimensions and knowledge and therefore, we can not clearly describe his power, authority, and capability. We have to accept him, honour him, worship him, believe him, glorify him, and trust him.
Moreover, we have to ask him to give us the knowledge of him.
To sum up, nataka watu kama Kiranga wa confess kwanza kuwa suala ya Who Created God is illogical question, kwa hiyo sitarajii mtu kuuliza maswali kama ya ' Nani kamuumba Mungu? Au Mungu katoka wapi? Hiyo ni kwa sababu Mungu hajatoka popote. Yupo milele, hana MWANZO, hana MWISHO!
Unampa free ride ya nini huyo? Makosa ya Mungu kwa kipimo gani? Aliyapimaje makosa ya Mungu?Shetani ni Kiumbe mmoja kati ya zaidi ya Vigintillion ya viumbe wenye utashi walioumbwa na Mungu. Sasa Mungu si mwanadamu Hata aogope kuumba kwa sababu kiumbe kitaasi. Vinginevyo ukubali kuhoji infiniteness of his plans and supernatural intelligency with our finite mind. God did not create the world for robots but for us. Ilikuwa rahisi Kumkabidhi hii dunia Hata Ng'ombe au Panya Kuitawala lakini kwa utashi wake akaamua wewe mwenye uhuru hata wa kuhoji kazi zake uwe ndio mtawala.