US Election Coverage 2008

[YNIM]

masanja,
mie nilikuwa nazungumzia na nipo interested zaidi na approach.......ile mambo ya realpolitic, cowboy mentality haifanyikazi!!!

 

[Capitol Hill]

ili muonekane mnashinda tuu huku reality kila mkilala mkiamka gap ya delegates imeongezeka,mmekwisha nyie with zero chance of getting nomination,karibu obama camp Bill kishajiunga kisirisiri

NA BADO LEO USIKU UTAONA HIYO LANDSLIDE VICTORY YA CAMP OBAMA

 

[Capitol Hill]

Tatizo watu wanataka hizi campaign ziendeshwe kwa different standards. Wanataka Obama awe-treated specially, untouchable boy. Lakini nakwambia hili litaishia ndani ya democrtats, akipata nomination utaona Republicans watakavyom-hit. Nawahurumia sana Obamanics maana watakuwa na miezi mitatu ya whining!

I assume wewe Kitila unafuata mafundisho ya dini. Tusema una jirani ambaye kwa kweli ana matatizo. How do you teach him kubadilika? Do you act like him..ubabe ubabe ama do you go about and practice LOVE THY NEIGHBOR? Ninakuhakikishia the most effective way ni kumtreat mtu kwa grace na upole na wema. Mwache yeye akutukane..but overtime who's the loser? Now make my simple analogy into Clintonites fan base and Clinton Camp.

 

[Capitol Hill]

Wanataka Obama awe-treated specially, untouchable boy. Nawahurumia sana Obamanics maana watakuwa na miezi mitatu ya whining!

Hatuombi special treatment...what we are asking for ni fairness. Msirushe madongo ambayo sio ya ukweli. Msije na fear mongering tactics such as the Muslim thing, au the middle name Hussein, msije na 3:00 AM ad wakati mnajua Mama amepad resume yake and she's never be anywhere solving the crisis. Msije na false claims ...kama ile issue ya NAFTA iliyo leak Canada ambayo ilikuwa ya kwenu (Clintonites). Kuweni fair...mnataka kujua issue ya Rezko, basi toeni W-2's za Hillary na Bill Clinton's Foundation. Tuambieni hizo 5 million za kampeni alizokopesha from her own pocket amezitoa wapi...kama sio kwa lobbisty..Lets be fair if you wanna talk fairness na sio kurushiana mud.

 

[Kitila Mkumbo]

Capitol Hill et al:

Here is the response of Clinton team on Obama team yesterday's memo which sady tried to dismiss Hillary's Commander in Chief Credentials. Mimi nafikiri Obama team wangejibu hoja kwa kuonyesha kwamba wana uwezo na experience badala ya kuhangaika na ku-distort credentials za huyu mama, hapa wanajitesa kweli. Kwa maneno mengine, hoja ijibiwe kwa hoja. Here is the link, hope you read it:

http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/03/team_clinton_responds.html

Kwa wale ambao watakosa muda wa kusoma article nzima, naweka hii clip inayojibu tuhuma za msingi za ndugu yetu Obama:

Northern Ireland:

The Obama campaign claims George Mitchell, the person in charge of the investigation, supports their view that Hillary's claims about Northern Ireland are exaggerated. John Hume , who won the Nobel Prize for Peace for his work on Northern Ireland:




I can state from firsthand experience that she played a positive role for over a decade in helping to bring peace to Northern Ireland... Anyone criticizing her foreign policy involvement should look at her very active and positive approach to Northern Ireland and speak with the people of Northern Ireland who have the highest regard for her and are very grateful for her very active support for our peace process.


George Mitchell , who is cited in the Obama memo as an authoritative source, told Katie Couric last night that Hillary played "a helpful and supportive role" in Northern Ireland that ended up making "a difference in the process." He described what Hillary has said about her role as "accurate." And these are his (George Mitchell) own words:
"I can state from firsthand experience that she played a positive role for over a decade in helping to bring peace to Northern Ireland... Anyone criticizing her foreign policy involvement should look at her very active and positive approach to Northern Ireland and speak with the people of Northern Ireland who have the highest regard for her and are very grateful for her very active support for our peace process".

 

[Icadon]

Capitol Hill et al:

Here is the response of Clinton team on Obama team yesterday's memo which sady tried to dismiss Hillary's Commander in Chief Credentials. Mimi nafikiri Obama team wangejibu hoja kwa kuonyesha kwamba wana uwezo na experience badala ya kuhangaika na ku-distort credentials za huyu mama, hapa wanajitesa kweli. Kwa maneno mengine, hoja ijibiwe kwa hoja. Here is the link, hope you read it:

http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/03/team_clinton_responds.html

Kwa wale ambao watakosa muda wa kusoma article nzima, naweka hii clip inayojibu tuhuma za msingi za ndugu yetu Obama:

Northern Ireland:

The Obama campaign claims George Mitchell, the person in charge of the investigation, supports their view that Hillary's claims about Northern Ireland are exaggerated. John Hume , who won the Nobel Prize for Peace for his work on Northern Ireland:




I can state from firsthand experience that she played a positive role for over a decade in helping to bring peace to Northern Ireland... Anyone criticizing her foreign policy involvement should look at her very active and positive approach to Northern Ireland and speak with the people of Northern Ireland who have the highest regard for her and are very grateful for her very active support for our peace process.


George Mitchell , who is cited in the Obama memo as an authoritative source, told Katie Couric last night that Hillary played "a helpful and supportive role" in Northern Ireland that ended up making "a difference in the process." He described what Hillary has said about her role as "accurate." And these are his (George Mitchell) own words:
"I can state from firsthand experience that she played a positive role for over a decade in helping to bring peace to Northern Ireland... Anyone criticizing her foreign policy involvement should look at her very active and positive approach to Northern Ireland and speak with the people of Northern Ireland who have the highest regard for her and are very grateful for her very active support for our peace process".

Na comment za Brian Feeney hazipo?

Hii kitu nilishaipost hapa(1793)

 

[Kitila Mkumbo]

NA BADO LEO USIKU UTAONA HIYO LANDSLIDE VICTORY YA CAMP OBAMA

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/feature/thankyou/

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Kambi ya Obama wao kila siku kulalama wanaonewa na wanakuwa wepesi sana kuita watu "racist". Sasa huyu candidate alikuwa anategemea nini maana ukishaingia kwenye siasa bais utarajie kila aina ya maoni. Sasa leo Geraldine Ferraro katoa maoni yake tayari camp Obama wanamwita "racist". Excuse my French but that is chicken s.hit!! Kila ukikosolewa kidogo wewe unalia negative campaign na racist.

 

[Capitol Hill]

Kwa wale ambao watakosa muda wa kusoma article nzima, naweka hii clip inayojibu tuhuma za msingi za ndugu yetu Obama:

Northern Ireland:

The Obama campaign claims George Mitchell, the person in charge of the investigation, supports their view that Hillary's claims about Northern Ireland are exaggerated. John Hume , who won the Nobel Prize for Peace for his work on Northern Ireland:

I can state from firsthand experience that she played a positive role for over a decade in helping to bring peace to Northern Ireland... Anyone criticizing her foreign policy involvement should look at her very active and positive approach to Northern Ireland and speak with the people of Northern Ireland who have the highest regard for her and are very grateful for her very active support for our peace process.

George Mitchell , who is cited in the Obama memo as an authoritative source, told Katie Couric last night that Hillary played "a helpful and supportive role" in Northern Ireland that ended up making "a difference in the process." He described what Hillary has said about her role as "accurate." And these are his (George Mitchell) own words:
"I can state from firsthand experience that she played a positive role for over a decade in helping to bring peace to Northern Ireland... Anyone criticizing her foreign policy involvement should look at her very active and positive approach to Northern Ireland and speak with the people of Northern Ireland who have the highest regard for her and are very grateful for her very active support for our peace process".

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Gazeti la Telegraph la Uingereza:

Nobel winner: Hillary Clinton's 'silly' Irish peace claims
By Toby Harnden in Washington
Last Updated: 9:30am GMT 08/03/2008


Hillary Clinton had no direct role in bringing peace to Northern Ireland and is a "wee bit silly" for exaggerating the part she played, according to Lord Trimble of Lisnagarvey, the Nobel Peace Prize winner and former First Minister of the province Hillary Clinton mere "cheerleader" in Ireland
"I don’t know there was much she did apart from accompanying Bill [Clinton] going around," he said. Her recent statements about being deeply involved were merely "the sort of thing people put in their canvassing leaflets" during elections. "She visited when things were happening, saw what was going on, she can certainly say it was part of her experience. I don’t want to rain on the thing for her but being a cheerleader for something is slightly different from being a principal player."
Mrs Clinton has made Northern Ireland key to her claims of having extensive foreign policy experience, which helped her defeat Barack Obama in Ohio and Texas on Tuesday after she presented herself as being ready to tackle foreign policy crises at 3am.
"I helped to bring peace to Northern Ireland," she told CNN on Wednesday. But negotiators from the parties that helped broker the Good Friday Agreement in 1998 told The Daily Telegraph that her role was peripheral and that she played no part in the gruelling political talks over the years. Lord Trimble shared the Nobel Peace Prize with John Hume, leader of the nationalist Social Democratic and Labour Party, in 1998. Conall McDevitt, an SDLP negotiator and aide to Mr Hume during the talks, said: "There would have been no contact with her either in person or on the phone. I was with Hume regularly during calls in the months leading up to the Good Friday Agreement when he was taking calls from the White House and they were invariably coming from the president."Central to Mrs Clinton’s claim of an important Northern Ireland role is a meeting she attended in Belfast in with a group of women from cross-community groups. "I actually went to Northern Ireland more than my husband did," she said in Nashua, New Hampshire on January 6th.
"I remember a meeting that I pulled together in Belfast, in the town hall there, bringing together for the first time Catholics and Protestants from both traditions, having them sitting a room where they had never been before with each other because they don’t go to school together, they don’t live together and it was only in large measure because I really asked them to come that they were there.
"And I wasn’t sure it was going to be very successful and finally a Catholic woman on one side of the table said, ’You know, every time my husband leaves for work in the morning I worry he won’t come home at night.
"And then a Protestant woman on the other side said, ’Every time my son tries to go out at night I worry he won’t come home again’. And suddenly instead of seeing each other as caricatures and stereotypes they saw each other as human beings and the slow, hard work of peace-making could move forward."
There is no record of a meeting at Belfast City Hall, though Mrs Clinton attended a ceremony there when her husband turned on the Christmas tree lights in November 1995. The former First Lady appears to be referring a 50-minute event the same day, arranged by the US Consulate, the same day at the Lamp Lighter Café on the city’s Ormeau Road.
The "Belfast Telegraph" reported the next day that the café meeting was crammed with reporters, cameramen and Secret Service agents. Conversation "seemed a little bit stilted, a little prepared at times" and Mrs Clinton admired a stainless steel tea pot, which was duly given to her, for keeping the brew "so nice and hot".
Among those attending were women from groups representing single parents, relationship counsellors, youth workers and a cultural society. In her 2003 autobiography "Living History", Mrs Clinton wrote about the meeting in some detail but made no claim that it was significant.
Rather than it being the first time the women had met, Mrs Clinton wrote: "Because they were willing to work across the religious divide, they had found common ground." Mary Fox, the wife of a former IRA prisoner and one of the seven women at the meeting, said she had been there on behalf of the Footprints community centre. "It was quite a political change for the women’s sector after the visit of Hillary Clinton. We would love to see her as president. She spoke to each of us and was very interested in our work. She was lovely."
Mr McDevitt said: "I’ve always had a theory that these people were already well networked. Maybe they needed a bit of bringing together and she [Mrs Clinton] was an ideal focus point." Once a peace deal was in place, Mrs Clinton supported women politicians and was always available if they visited Washington "to give them a pat on the back, give them moral support", he added.

"So in a classic woman politicky sort of way I think she was active...She was certainly investing some time, no doubt about it. Whether she was involved on the issue side I think probably not." Some of the people Mrs Clinton met went on to help found the Women’s Coalition, which took part in the Good Friday talks. Lord Trimble said: "The Women’s Coalition will think they were important. Other people beg to differ."
Steven King, a negotiator with Lord Trimble’s Ulster Unionist Party, argued that Mrs Clinton might even have helped delay the chances of peace. "She was invited along to some pre-arranged meetings but I don’t think she exactly brought anybody together that hadn’t been brought together already," he said. Mrs Clinton was "a cheerleader for the Irish republican side of the argument", he added."She really lost all credibility when on Bill Clinton’s last visit to Northern Ireland [in December 2000] when she hugged and kissed [Sinn Fein leaders] Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness."

Responding to inquiries from this newspaper, Hillary Clinton’s campaign issued a statement from Mr Hume. "I am quite surprised that anyone would suggest that Hillary Clinton did not perform important foreign policy work as First Lady," the statement said.
"I can state from firsthand experience that she played a positive role for over a decade in helping to bring peace to Northern Ireland. She visited Northern Ireland, met with very many people and gave very decisive support to the peace process.
"There is no doubt that the people of Northern Ireland think very positively of Hillary Clinton’s support for our peace process, due to her visits to Northern Ireland and her meetings with so many people. In private she made countless calls and contacts, speaking to leaders and opinion makers on all sides, urging them to keep moving forward."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...108.xml&page=2

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Ukisoma hizi piece mbili za nuwz utajua who is telling the truth and who is not. The Obama camp did not come up with this. The people who are counterclaiming the Senator from NY yaani watu wa huko Ireland are:

 

[KadaMpinzani]

kuna mmama mmoja supporter wa clinton katoa racial comments on obama, sasa kiti kinawaka moto upande wa clinton. !! yaani huyu jamaa ni fragile, ukiattack vibaya utakuwa unajinyoa nywele mwenyewe !

 

[Taasisi]

Nashindwa kuelewa wala kuamini

Ticket ya Obama ni change in any shape of form, and I would argue better than any of the status quo as represented by the Clintons

Ni psychological change, ni real change ni not part of "establishment" and it breaks with the past which many of us are fed up and tired.

That change will propagate world over in the long run

Kuwa First lady and attending banquets does not make you ready to be commander in chief. Does not give or enable anyone to have better judgement! This is all evident with how Clinton endorsed G Bush's plan to invade Iraq. We all know we didn't like Sadam's regime but no one wanted what is happening now from Obama type of thinking and what is happening now is exactly what some of us said was going to happen with G Bush's plans. See where we are now and people like Hilary paid their salutes wakijua wakija kugombea Upresident waonekane wao ni stronger in National Security - they were WRONG then and WRONG even now

Obama is trying to bring a different style of politics which is down to earth stye of politics. He is not perfect so is no one but he represent a change that is ripe for this world today.

Quoting Goerge Mitchel is like asking George Kahama what he thinks of Mkapa's wife or evenMkapa himself. What I mean here is that G Mitchel is part of the Clintons regime so he will have to say anything to support his friends. Go and ask the Ireland people like Bertie Ahern or Lord Trimble's Ulster Unionist Party and see what they say - these were people who felt and saw what was happening. They will give credit to George Mitchel but not Hilary - see where she is referred as a cheerleader - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/08/wuspols108.xml

More see - http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jhs4kpT93PaBEKZfLbleWsE8kBrgD8V9BH28L
http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/S...73354900420&path=!nationworld&s=1037645509161

That does not and should not make some trumpet around eti ana experience na Urais!! No one as a first candidate can make such claim - this simply shows how desperate the Clintons are. The Clintons partnership is about power and winning at any cost and do or say anything just to win! I am really shocked to see some of the claims they are making and I think Obama camp are being too nice with them as they should rip apart their claims on Experience. Another point Obama camp need to drum up the message home is that that very "experience" they are claiming about is what is not needed in today's world where old style politics has caused more divisions and more troubles. The unification approach Obama stands for is what needs to be supported even if Obama is not perfect but he is far the better choice the world has not seen for centuries. This is a lifetime opening that people and people power need to grab with all hands.

And what about Obama's experience in actual work he has been through (not as a Cheer Lad) but as real guy on the streets of Chicago?

 

[Capitol Hill]

MORE XPERIENCE or....LETS SAY MORE PADDED RESUME ON PART OF THE SENATOR FROM NEW YORK

Huu unatakiwa uwe mwendelezo wa ile ya Northern Ireland:

Bosnia:

Senator Clinton has pointed to a March 1996 trip to Bosnia as proof that her foreign travel involved a life-risking mission into a war zone. She has described dodging sniper fire. While she did travel to Bosnia in March 1996, the visit was not a high-stakes mission to a war zone. On March 26, 1996, the New York Times reported that “Hillary Rodham Clinton charmed American troops at a U.S.O. show here, but it didn’t hurt that the singer Sheryl Crow and the comedian Sinbad were also on the stage.”

Uuuuuwiiii...hapo kwenye ku dodge sniper fire kanimaliza:

Kosovo:

Senator Clinton has said, “I negotiated open borders to let fleeing refugees into safety from Kosovo.” It is true that, as First Lady, she traveled to Macedonia and visited a Kosovar refugee camp. It is also true that she met with government officials while she was there. First Ladies frequently meet with government officials. Her claim to have “negotiated open borders to let fleeing refugees into safety from Kosovo,” however, is not true. Her trip to Macedonia took place on May 14, 1999. The borders were opened the day before, on May 13, 1999.

The negotiations that led to the opening of the borders were accomplished by the people who ordinarily conduct negotiations with foreign governments – U.S. diplomats. President Clinton’s top envoy to the Balkans, former Ambassador Robert Gelbard, said, “I cannot recall any involvement by Senator Clinton in this issue.” Ivo Daalder worked on the Clinton Administration’s National Security Council and wrote a definitive history of the Kosovo conflict. He recalls that “she had absolutely no role in the dirty work of negotiations.”

Hiki kibao cha experience kinazidi kuwa kitamu tu..haya karibia kinachanganya:

Rwanda:

Last year, former President Clinton asserted that his wife pressed him to intervene with U.S. troops to stop the Rwandan genocide. When asked about this assertion, Hillary Clinton said it was true. There is no evidence, however, to suggest that this ever happened. Even those individuals who were advocating a much more robust U.S. effort to stop the genocide did not argue for the use of U.S. troops. No one recalls hearing that Hillary Clinton had any interest in this course of action. Based on a fair and thorough review of National Security Council deliberations during those tragic months, there is no evidence to suggest that U.S. military intervention was ever discussed. Prudence Bushnell, the Assistant Secretary of State with responsibility for Africa, has recalled that there was no consideration of U.S. military intervention.

At no time prior to her campaign for the presidency did Senator Clinton ever make the claim that she supported intervening militarily to stop the Rwandan genocide. It is noteworthy that she failed to mention this anecdote – urging President Clinton to intervene militarily in Rwanda – in her memoirs. President Clinton makes no mention of such a conversation with his wife in his memoirs. And Madeline Albright, who was Ambassador to the United Nations at the time, makes no mention of any such event in her memoirs.
Hillary Clinton did visit Rwanda in March 1998 and, during that visit, her husband apologized for America’s failure to do more to prevent the genocide.

Haya kibao ndio kimeingia chorus...changanya..katika...chan..kat..

China

Senator Clinton also points to a speech that she delivered in Beijing in 1995 as proof of her ability to answer a 3 AM crisis phone call. It is strange that Senator Clinton would base her own foreign policy experience on a speech that she gave over a decade ago, since she so frequently belittles Barack Obama’s speeches opposing the Iraq War six years ago. Let there be no doubt: she gave a good speech in Beijing, and she stood up for women’s rights.

Actually kama mnakumbuka Mama yetu Getrude Mongella alikuwa na role kubwa kwenye mkutano wa Beijing zaidi ya Senator kutoka NY.

 

[Taasisi]

kuna mmama mmoja supporter wa clinton katoa racial comments on obama, sasa kiti kinawaka moto upande wa clinton. !! yaani huyu jamaa ni fragile, ukiattack vibaya utakuwa unajinyoa nywele mwenyewe !

Not at all, people need to get used to what the Obama camp is trying to rally on...

It is different style of politics

It is politics of substance and without personal attacks - which is unheard of in US or even world over.

People are also fed up with such dramas. Try and watch the Fox News channels. That GOP machinery is trying all they can to make people fight/argue on issues that don't matter. Why? It is a devide and rule game being orchestrated here

Watch out, Obama wave is unstoppable. This movement, even if it looses Presidency, it is a monster created no one will get rid of it. America has all the structures and resources in place to enable real people power. This is what Obama's movement is creating.

 

[Capitol Hill]

Kuwa First lady and attending banquets does not make you ready to be commander in chief. Does not give or enable anyone to have better judgement! This is all evident with how Clinton endorsed G Bush's plan to invade Iraq. We all know we didn't like Sadam's regime but no one wanted what is happening now from Obama type of thinking and what is happening now is exactly what some of us said was going to happen with G Bush's plans. See where we are now and people like Hilary paid their salutes wakijua wakija kugombea Upresident waonekane wao ni stronger in National Security - they were WRONG then and WRONG even now

Yaani ume drive point home sababu tukisema sisi tunaonekana ni cheerleaders wa Barack. Halafu kibaya zaidi ni kwamba huyu Senator wa NY ana pad resume yake. Mimi nikifanya hivyo nafukuzwa kazi, yeye wafuasi wake wanampa pass. Hivi huoni athari ya kuwa na Commander in Chief aliye na padded resume? Wabunge Tanzania wafoji resume na Senator wa NY pia?

 

[YNIM]

Kambi ya Obama wao kila siku kulalama wanaonewa na wanakuwa wepesi sana kuita watu "racist". Sasa huyu candidate alikuwa anategemea nini maana ukishaingia kwenye siasa bais utarajie kila aina ya maoni. Sasa leo Geraldine Ferraro katoa maoni yake tayari camp Obama wanamwita "racist". Excuse my French but that is chicken s.hit!! Kila ukikosolewa kidogo wewe unalia negative campaign na racist.

.......yes, it was out of line!! too bad, to the fact that, she is Italian and racist. shame on you G. Ferraro!!.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

.......yes, it was out of line!! too bad, to the fact that, she is Italian and racist. shame on you G. Ferraro!!.

O'le boy better toughen up..
He can't cry like a sissy and use the race card everytime people take shots at him. Hivi ni nini utakachosema dhidi yake ambacho hautaitwa "racist"?

And check this out..he done picked the wrong fight. Now my main man Lou Dobbs is on him.

 

[YNIM]

O'le boy better toughen up..
He can't cry like a sissy and use the race card everytime people take shots at him. Hivi ni nini utakachosema dhidi yake ambacho hautaitwa "racist"?

And check this out..he done picked the wrong fight. Now my main man Lou Dobbs is on him.

who listens to Lou Dobbs anymore?? I bet it was more tactical attack than anything(putting Lou in the same league with Rush.....kakasirika na hapo ndipo atakapo chemsha), kwasa'abu Lou ni kichwamaji with fighting mentallity kaingia kingi........welcome to our ballpark, last time I checked we don't lose in our home turf!!!.

 

[Rufiji]

Hivi kusema kwamba sababu inayomfanya awepo mpaka leo kwenye kampeni kwa sababu ya ngozi yake is belowa the belt period.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Basi mwaka huu mtalia ubaguzi hadi mkauke machozi....

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

who listens to Lou Dobbs anymore?? I bet it was more tactical attack than anything(putting Lou in the same league with Rush.....kakasirika na hapo ndipo atakapo chemsha), kwasa'abu Lou ni kichwamaji with fighting mentallity kaingia kingi........welcome to our ballpark, last time I checked we don't lose in our home turf!!!.

Oyaa usimkose anakuja at the top of the hour na atamzungumzia bwa' mdogo...lol