Membe: Tunasubiri talaka Jumuiya Afrika Mashariki

[kadoda11]

huo muungano wao nauchikulia ni kama muungano uliosukumwa na mihemko ya jazba tu.wakati flani nilipokuwa kenya-western province,maswali niliyo ulizwa ni upatikanaji wa ardhi ya tz na ubora wake.nilipata picha kamili jinsi wakenya wanavyo itamani ardhi ya yetu.bravo membe.

 

[SOCIOLOGISTTZ]

Hapa alitakiwa aongelee swala hili ni Sitta, lkn naona membe ametumia cheo chake cha Waziri wa mambo ya nje kulisemea. Hapa ndipo watu wanalalamika baraza la mawaziri kubwa, JK anaona sawa tu. kwa upande wa wenzetu wa Africa mashariki wameshatuacha, tusilielie bali tusonge mbele.

 

[Tutafika]

Kwani muungano wa tanzania una ridhaa ya wananchi wake?huwa nawashangaa watanganyika wametolewa eac wanalalamika mbona z'br ikitaka kujitoa kwenye muungao inakuwa nongwa?kama tanganyika mmetolewa kwenye eac basi iachieni zanzbr huru ijiunge.

Hili kosa hatuwezi kulirudia! Mwambie Shein malalamiko yako atakusaidia,

 

[East African Eagle]

Wanaume wanakutana Kigali mwezi huu( tarehe 28 na 29). Kanyaga twende dead weights achana nao.

Wote hao interest zao ziko kongo.Kenya wanataka bandari yao iwe kituo kikuu cha kushusha silaha ambazo Uganda na Rwanda wanazihitaji kuunga waasi kongo kuendeleza maslahi yao kule.Na kurudisha mzigo wa madini yaliyoporwa kongo kupitia barabara na bandari ya kenya.Kenya ni majambazi wazoefu kwenye unholy alliance na Rwanda na Uganda.Burundi ni innocent child hajui kwa undani kinachoendelea.

Hiki wanachojaribu kuunganisha si jumuiya ya EAC as such ni muungano wa mtandao wa wezi wa mali za kongo.Vyombo vya usalama vya kimataifa vilenge mitandao yao kwenye hizo barabara na anga za rwanda,uganda na kenya wanaposhughulikia mtandao wa mgogoro wa kongo.Silaha zote na mali zote za kupora kongo main route ndio hiyo.

 

[Kidzude]

Nini tamko la Tanzania hapo?

Da twahitaji shule kidogo tena tuanzie kwa akina Plato.

 

[Mpanzi]

Comments za Wakenya waliocoment hii story Daily Nation

• Coalition of the winning to fight the ICC
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Linda Kimani • 3 hours ago
  
  Why are they fast-tracking the formation of a political federation yet Kenya and even Uganda still have many political issues that still need to be sorted out.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  chris • 3 hours ago
  
  I think Kenyans should be very weary of forming a political federation. Other forms of cooperation are alright but politics is another thing all together.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  sploit • 3 hours ago
  
  And just read today's paper that TZ is the second biggest importer of Kenyan goods.We need TZ as much as they need us
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Thankless • 3 hours ago
  
  On the issue of a single political federation, I think that would be a wrong move! Individual political sovereignty must be maintained at all costs otherwise we will be colonised by Museveni.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  sura mbaya • 7 hours ago
  
  Tanzania was the reason the EAC failed in the 70s and now they want to derail this new effort. In all honesty, Tanzania should stick with SADC and keep getting a raw deal since they don't seem to know how to be good neighbors. What's worse, not only has the Kikwete government attacked Paul Kagame's foreign policy with regards to the Congo but they recently decided to send home over 10,000 Kenyan teachers in a country where quality of education lags the region greatly.
  The only country that's being illegal here is Tanzania.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Maji_Baridi • 7 hours ago
  
  I love my TZ neighbours, but it's quite disappointing knowing that they sabotage nearly every single resolution the EAC passes due to their 'Ujamaa policy'. Tanzania initiated a new Chinese funded port project that bypasses Mombasa as an alternative route to the African hinterland of Burundi, Rwanda & DRC. Nobody made a fuss about it, but somehow they now have a problem with the 'Northern Corridor' that bypasses their country? Hypocrisy at it's worst if you asked me.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  TolbertMwiine • 7 hours ago
  
  I think the protocol should be about breaking barriers and bringing opportunities to the people. Any part of protocol that only leads to endless rounds of talks all the year round should be removed. Tanzania has been the unwilling partner in this marriage and its time they came very clearly on if they can be able to move on with us or not. Remember the land debate took so long and we could not agree
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Gideon Ochieng • 7 hours ago
  
  The good news is that there is always and opportunity to catch up. TZ please wake up and work with the rest of the EAC. You cannot sulk forever.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Triple A • 8 hours ago
  
  I doubt if our Tanzanian friends are interested in the East African union any more,they have been making very contradictory decisions and statements
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Ruvuma • 8 hours ago
  
  Tanzania should leave the block & join SADAC. Locomotive lifestyle not!
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Concerned African • 10 hours ago
  
  Kenya, Uganda, & Rwanda I support you and the majority of EastAfrican support you. Go ahead with your plans with/without Tanzania who are developing cold feet in the dream of one East Africa,one people and one government. When they realise it is good idea, then can join you later.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  SALAT • 11 hours ago
  
  TANZANIA should stop in keeping the stand off in the making all the EAC hostage on it's own benefit's. let them join SADC if they want but should not be draging it's feet. let the willing do what they think can benefit their respective countries and cizizens.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  shillings • 11 hours ago
  
  What the trio deal makers have in common lays the answer.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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    riverlake shillings • 3 hours ago
    
    true
    
    
    
    
    
    
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  wamusie • 13 hours ago
  
  They will never get it right
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Wamaruga • 13 hours ago
  
  But TZ, you always throw bottlenecks to free trade in the EAC coz you're in SADC. Can't have it both ways, you're either in EAC or SADC. Pick one. Chinese proverb; if you chase two rabbits, both will run away.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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    charles Wamaruga • an hour ago
    
    Why afar Chinese proverb. East Africans can understand it better in Swahili proverb, "mshika mbili moja huponyoka" and "mtaka yote kwa pupa hukosa yote kwa pupa".
    But this should not be a reason for bulldozing Tanzanians. Tanzania is moving cautiously for a sustainable East Africa Community. Why go to the free trade so hurriedly? Tackle the underlying issues first. Another Swahili proverb "haraka haraka haina Baraka".
    
    
    
    
    
    
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  DKjones • 14 hours ago
  
  It is about time Kenya, Uganda, and Rwanda, to in the future include Burundi, Southern Sudan, Ethiopia and Eastern Congo entered into a 'alliance-of-the-willing' cohort. Tanzania has been a party spoiler for too long. In this day and age, we cannot tolerate the collective people insecurity, sluggishness and indecisiveness demonstrated by the Tanzanians since the resurrection of the EAC. Let them cry unlawful as much as they want, but we want to move on. No one really is interested in their resources. Actually they can join SADCC if they want. Enough said!
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Ali • 14 hours ago
  
  From the looks Kenya is sidelining T.Z as a natural competitor. Being the more developed country Kenya needs TZ more than TZ needs Kenya. TZ is the biggest consumer of Kenyan goods, for those who are familiar with international trade it is very hard to get access to new markets, with all
  those competitors out there they could easily replace Kenya by importing goods from elsewhere. Their country is close to 2X Kenyas, they have vast resources and all what Kenya has and more. They are the sleeping giants in EA, the only way for them is to go is grow high, Very high, so Kenya
  needs to engage them, grow with them and benefit from their upward trajectory, not sideline them.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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    Realist Ali • an hour ago
    
    TZ needs to move with its business partners else it will be stuck where it has always been. They might have a vast land and minerals but that alone is nothing without proper strategy to make most out of them. As they argue the legality of deals made by brothers, Ken, Ug and Rwand are creating space to do business with each other and foreign nations. All is see is TZ making a mistake on these Union (Community is on the way out, now its a union in the making)
    
    
    
    
    
    
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    joseph Ali • an hour ago
    
    the 'giant' may continue sleeping. better still proceed on to comatose.
    
    
    
    
    
    
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    Elijah Kipteng Ali • 2 hours ago
    
    You can have all the resources in the world but it does not mean you will succeed. Countries become successful not by displaying and selling its resources but by developing human resource (japan is a case in point).
    
    
    
    
    
    
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    Thomus Owiti Ali • 2 hours ago
    
    So should we stop developing our economy just because TZ is putting lots of unnecessary hurdles and you think we should wait them for eternity? Indeed they need us more than we need them if you don't think so!
    
    
    
    
    
    
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  Kiki • 15 hours ago
  
  Coalition of the willing says it all. If they were not willing when the girl appeared unatractive, they shouldn't detract her suitors now that she has blossomed.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Moses • 16 hours ago
  
  Tanzania has backtracked the EAC for 8years, its high time they pulled out and went SADEC. Tanzanian calls itself a Big Brother, ask yourselves big to who? They should refer to Mwalimu's speech in SA where he clearly mentioned Big Brother politics in Nonsense politics when countries venture into integration. Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, South Sudan please increase your speed, Tz can catch up later with the 11th president.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Kaliti Steve • 16 hours ago
  
  Tanzania ni mpanda farasi wawili..SADC & EAC...Long been used by Joburg to defeat Nairobi interests....njirani atapasuka msamba, farasi wameanza mbio...
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  AM • 16 hours ago
  
  When discussions were taking place the TZ absconded and now that the agreements seem to be about to bear fruit the TZ is crying foul. One can only fail to cooperate to their own disadvantage as is the case now with the TZ Next time there are discussions they should move with speed or else they will lag behind. Group movement does not work in today's fast economy. One has to rise and move forward even if no one wants to join. That is what is happening and the TZ have no one to blame. They should instead join and make up the lost time by running but not walking.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Quaymist • 17 hours ago
  
  The chickens are trying to hang out with the eagles.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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    Martin Quaymist • 3 hours ago
    
    I like your comment. You got it right!
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

 

[salimkabora]

Wakenya, Waganda na Warwanda ni waroho sana wa ardhi yetu. Na pia si watu wa kuwachekeachekea kabisa kwani ni hawana utu hata kidogo. Tukizubaa na kukubaliana na matakwa yao tutaishia kuwa watumwa ndani ya nchi yetu. Let them go, hatuna cha kupoteza na wala hatuwahitaji.

Ardhi yenu ipi hiyo iliyopo kwa ajili ya waporaji wanaoitwa wawekezaji wenzio wanailinda ulaji wao uko humo

 

[mbinguni]

EAC ni janga jingine kwa Tanganyika

 

[kkarumekenge]

Hizi ni kauli za viongozi wasiojua cha kufanya "eti tunaendelea na mwendo wetu wa pole"! Nonsense!

Kabisaaaa... na hii ndiyo sababu wenzetu Kenya, Uganda na Rwanda wameona wafanye haraka ili kuistua Tanzania iliyolala usingizi wa pono. Tatizo si kututenga ni uzembe wa Watanzania wanaoanya mambo yao kama kinyonga. Na ati anarudia ataendelea na mwendo wao wa pole!
Diplomasia gani hii ya kitoto. Hatujasikia Kenya, Uganda ama Rwanda wakizungumzia Tanzania katika hili. Kwa nini? Siyo usiri bali unyeti wa suala lenyewe. Ilitarajiwa partner anayelalamika (Tanzania) awasiliane na wenzake na kumaliza jambo hili. Lakini siku hizo zote wako kimya, wanazinduka tu kama mtu akojoaye kitandani na kuanza kutulisha mambo ambayo yametokana na uzembe wao. Wao eti kulalamika kama watoto. Likisemwa hili Kenya, lile Kenya, mara Rwanda aibu gani hii jamani. Kama Kenya ina nguvu kiuchumi, huyu ndiye wa kushika tupate ujuzi na manufaa mengine sisi tulio dhaifu. Mara oh wanataka ardhi yetu! Upuuzi gani huu? Mbona hata hii tunayodai yetu imeshamalizwa na makampuni ya nje au msiyemtaka ni Kenya tu katika kundi hilo la wapora ardhi?
Hebu fikiria upuuzi huu, unaposikia waziri, afisa ama mbunge wa Tanzania analalamika ati Kenya wanatangaza mlima Kilimanjaro uko Kenya. Du! Sisi Tanzania aliyetuzuia kutangaza kwamba mlima huo upo Tanzania ni nani? Tulitangaza Kenya ikatukataza? Aibu! Mmelala fofofo kwa nini wenzenu wasichukue nafasi hiyo?
Ati, wanamtuma Afisa Mawasiliano wa Wizara ya Ushirkiano wa Afrika Mashariki kuzungumzia suala nyeti kama hilo. Kweli hawa ni wati makini kweli?

 

[MkamaP]

Kabisaaaa... na hii ndiyo sababu wenzetu Kenya, Uganda na Rwanda wameona wafanye haraka ili kuistua Tanzania iliyolala usingizi wa pono. Tatizo si kututenga ni uzembe wa Watanzania wanaoanya mambo yao kama kinyonga. Na ati anarudia ataendelea na mwendo wao wa pole!
Diplomasia gani hii ya kitoto. Hatujasikia Kenya, Uganda ama Rwanda wakizungumzia Tanzania katika hili. Kwa nini? Siyo usiri bali unyeti wa suala lenyewe. Ilitarajiwa partner anayelalamika (Tanzania) awasiliane na wenzake na kumaliza jambo hili. Lakini siku hizo zote wako kimya, wanazinduka tu kama mtu akojoaye kitandani na kuanza kutulisha mambo ambayo yametokana na uzembe wao. Wao eti kulalamika kama watoto. Likisemwa hili Kenya, lile Kenya, mara Rwanda aibu gani hii jamani. Kama Kenya ina nguvu kiuchumi, huyu ndiye wa kushika tupate ujuzi na manufaa mengine sisi tulio dhaifu. Mara oh wanataka ardhi yetu! Upuuzi gani huu? Mbona hata hii tunayodai yetu imeshamalizwa na makampuni ya nje au msiyemtaka ni Kenya tu katika kundi hilo la wapora ardhi?
Hebu fikiria upuuzi huu, unaposikia waziri, afisa ama mbunge wa Tanzania analalamika ati Kenya wanatangaza mlima Kilimanjaro uko Kenya. Du! Sisi Tanzania aliyetuzuia kutangaza kwamba mlima huo upo Tanzania ni nani? Tulitangaza Kenya ikatukataza? Aibu! Mmelala fofofo kwa nini wenzenu wasichukue nafasi hiyo?
Ati, wanamtuma Afisa Mawasiliano wa Wizara ya Ushirkiano wa Afrika Mashariki kuzungumzia suala nyeti kama hilo. Kweli hawa ni wati makini kweli?

Acha kupotosha mkuu
wao wanaposema Tanzania is dragging-foot, Tanzania is frustrating, Tanzania is so and so, wanakuwa wanaongelea nchi gani ama wametaja nchi gani?

Kingine hiyo demokrasia mnayopigania inakuwa haina maana tena, kama watu 3 wanaamua tu maamuzi ya watu zaidi ya milioni 100, kama ni hivyo kwanini huwa mnapiga kura basi? kwanini msifanye tu Rais anayemaliza mda wake ana appoint rais mwingine. Maana Rais ana akili sana kuliko wananchi, sijui kwanini hua mnapoteza hela nyingi kwenye uchaguzi kushirikisha wananchi.

Na wakati suala la Rais ni jambo dogo sana na kulinganisha hili la kuua nchi. hivi mnaongea vitu gani wajameni?

 

[simplemind]

Zingatia hii ,dont let ccm put you down . EA yes we can. Poem: The Man Who Thinks He Can - Word Information

 

[Daudi Mchambuzi]

Naona hili ni swali unalo jaribu kumuuliza kila unayemu-address

una akili kweli???

 

[BONGOLALA]

Ma CCM wa ajabu sana,ardhi EAC mnafanya polepole au pesahapana ila vitalu vya madini,gas,mafuta mnakimbilia kuvigawa kwa watu wa nje

 

[Consigliere]

Member at his Childish...

 

[Consigliere]

Ewe mungu tuepushe na EAC

Siyo Zanzibar?

 

[Mkono]

Tatizo Rais wetu haaminiki,unaweza kushangaa na maamuzi ya badae,lakini hadi sasa JK anastahili pongenzi hasa kupitia waziri Sitta taifa limekuwa na msimamo sahihi juu ya maslahi yetu kwanza.Namshangaa Membe alivyoenda kujiumauma Umoja wa Africa kuhusu nchi za Afrika kujitoa ICC.Mwisho wataunda EA yao ambayo haitadumu.

 

[Consigliere]

Hata kama tumeichoka CCM lakini linapokuja swala la kitaifa hawa vikaragosi wa Kitusi wasidhani Watanzania tutagawanyika.

Naunga mkono kauli ya Membe na ninaunga mkono msimamo wa Serikali kwenye hili. Wao mfano Kenya ardhi kubwa inamilikiwa na watu 20 tu akiwemo Kenyatta sasa upumbavu huo ndio wanataka kuuleta Tanzania.

Jamani tumalizane na Zanzibar kwanza ndio tuangalie mengine. Hiyo wizara ya Sitta ni waste of tax payers money, ivunjwe.

In red - we are not far from Kenyans, Kwa Kenyans ardhi tupu ndiyo deal na inamilkiwa na wachache, kwetu sisi tuna ardhi yenye madini na mbuga tujiulize, hivyo vyote vinamilikiwa na wangapi?
Halafu Membe anatuambia eti ardhi ndiyo dhahabu yetu, upumbavu mtupu, suala la kufananisha ardhi na dhahabu alitakiwa akaliongelee sehemu amabayo hawana dhahabu, huku angetoa ulinganifu huo ingekuwa sawa. Anapotuambia sisi kuwa ardhi ndiyo dhahabu zetu ana maana dhahabu tulizo nazo ni za nani?
Wanatulaghai kuwa eti wala walitaka ardhi yetu wakati kila nuchao wananchi wananyang'anywa ardhi yao na kumilkishwa the wealthy few, huku wananchi wengine kati ya wadhlumiwa wakiuawa kikatili na wengine wakiachwa na vilema vya kudumu.
Mbaya zaidi ardhi ni yetu wenyewe lakini bei yake haikamatiki, bei ya kiwanja Dar es salaam na maeneo mengine ya nchi ni sawa na bei ya nyumba katika nchi nyingine, sasa hapo iko wapi faida ya ardhi ambayo wanatulaghai kuwa wanailinda ili isichukuliwe na hao.

 

[Gsana]

kwenye siasa za ccm na cdm ki ukweli serikali inakuwa dhaifu ila linapokuja ishu ya mamlaka ya nchi na ujirani mwema, kiukweli mimi naisifu serikali ya jk. Endeleeni kulitetea taifa ili kwenye masafa ya kimataifa, msiyumbishwe na hao majirani wenye uroho wa ardhi ya Tanzania. hongera membe, 6 na jk

 

[simplemind]

Kenya na Rwanda siku nyingi wamefuta work permit requirement. Have Kenyans overwhelmed Rwandese? No no no. Have Rwandese overwhelmed Kenyans? No no no. If anything the two countries have been enriched by their close ties. Keep the spirit alive! President Kagame bids farewell to Kenyan High Commissioner to Rwanda

 

[kichomiz]

wewe na membe ni vipofu.
mtajutia sana haya maneno ya kanga yanayotumiwa na membe badala ya kutumia namna ya kidiplomasia kutatua matatizo ya kimahusiano.

CCM mnaakili kweli?

Mkuu naomba unipe faida za kujiunga haraka haraka na hawa jamaa.