Liverpool FC (The Reds) | Special Thread

Liverpool FC (The Reds) | Special Thread

Captain Marvelous said:
sure kabisa for Barcelona labda mwakani after that curfew expires, na wanaweza kuanza mchakato wa kumridhi Busquet and this boy suit that rol damn well..

but in the mean tym yuko mahala sahihi kabisa hivyo am positive atabakia...

Real are buying everyone mwishowe itakula kwao endapo kuuza kutasuasua...
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Think Barca, wataanza kumu-adjust De Jong taratibu kwenye eneo la DM.

him and Arthur are the future of their midfield.
 
Captain Marvelous said:
Angalau tumpata mmoja kati ya hawa..

Bruno Fernandes

Nicolas Pepe

Adrien Rabiot

Timo Werner

Joao Pedro

Samuel Chukwueze
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Bruno fernandes, should be the main priority.

i think Sporting Lisbon, wapo na mpango wa kuanzisha a very interesting bidding war, us/spurs/utd and even City are still interested.

50-55m with few add-ons should be enough to get him.
 
Captain Marvelous said:
hahahahahaha hata bure wasepa...

release Lallana get Ajax Hakim Ziyach au Neres..a proper up grade
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Lallana yupo on massive wages, (125k p/w), amebakiza mwaka mmoja tu kwenye his contract.

ndiyo maana, inakuwa ngumu hata kumuuza right now. and we cant just release him, kwa mshahara wake alionao ule, hasara kubwa itakuwa kwetu, especially kwenye masuala ya settlement.
 
MosDef said:
Bruno fernandes, should be the main priority.

i think Sporting Lisbon, wapo na mpango wa kuanzisha a very interesting bidding war, us/spurs/utd and even City are still interested.

50-55m with few add-ons should be enough to get him.
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its heading there already in bidding zone n man i hate hii stori ya bidding si powa sanaaa....

we should give Sporting Camacho and add a few usd and we get Bruno
 
MosDef said:
Lallana yupo on massive wages, (125k p/w), amebakiza mwaka mmoja tu kwenye his contract.

ndiyo maana, inakuwa ngumu hata kumuuza right now. and we cant just release him, kwa mshahara wake alionao ule, hasara kubwa itakuwa kwetu, especially kwenye masuala ya settlement.
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life is very unfair yaaani being paid 125 in a week aafu most the time he spend on rehab ndio inapotea pesaa hapa si bure
 
Man, its that time again.

My hero, My number 9, My El Nino, My Boy Fernando Jose Torres Sanz is retiring from football.

Yes, i was a LFC fan when he joined us in 2007, but to be honest, mapenzi yangu kwa LFC yaliongezeka zaidi jamaa alivyo-sign. It wasnt just for me, but kwa majority ya LFC fans around the world, he was like a Messiah, you know sijawahi kuona mchezaji akiwa connected na fans (ukiachana na SG) zaidi ya Torres at LFC, he was so loved man, hence his departure was so hard to endure man, it was so painful man, not because he was joining Chelsea, but it was that love/connection ambayo ilituvunja sana mioyo, kabla ya Torres tulishashuhudia players like Owen/Mcmanaman/Alonso/Masch etc wakiondoka wakati tunawahitaji zaidi, but it didnt hurt kama kwa Torres, though his departure ilitufanya tuwe sugu, because personally, sijawahi kuumizwa na departure ya mchezaji yeyote baada ya Torres, because at time, nilijufunza kuwa players will always move clubs, ndiyo maana kuondoka kwa Suarez/Sterling/Coutinho/Can niliona ni part of the game, and nikajifunza kuwa, we shouldnt be complaining/crying wachezaji wakiondoka, instead we should put pressure kwa club ku-sign good replacements. and thats how it should be.

Man, personally, Torres was the best ST to ever played for LFC, i know kuna a lot of legendary STs at the club, but in my own view, he was the best, and on top of that, My favorite.

amekuwa na good career as a footballer, kwenye ngazi ya club na international level. i wish him nothing but the best kwenye safari yake mpya.

"OOOH MY GOODNESS, BEST NUMBER 9 IN THE LEAGUE DOING WHAT HE DOES BEST.......RIPPING DEFENDERS APART AND SCORING GOALS"

Ilikuwa ni Sauti ya kinyonge kutoka kwa commentator, Martin Tyler baada ya Vidic kuwa bodied na El Nino wakati akisawazisha goal on 28th-minute at OLD TRAFFORD, infront of bitter United fans. Man, it was a sweet Saturday Afternoon.



MY LEGEND.
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KYLIAN MBAPPE STORY.

So, Klopp joined LFC on 2015, and upon his appointment, he sat down with FSG (Henry and Werner)/Head of Scout department (Dave Fallows)/Technical analysis director (Mike Edwards), he presented his plans and ideas zitakazosaidia kuirejesha Club katika ubora wake, mwisho kabisa, he presented majina ya wachezaji anaowahitaji for his project, the main aim and priority was to get young players in, as many as possible ili kutengeneza a generational team, so among the names ambazo Klopp ali-present, Mbappe and Ousmane Dembele walikuwepo kwenye list. (but we'll deal with Mbappe's part for now).

Remember, this was back in 2015, Mbappe was only 16 at that time (if am not mistaken), and he wasnt even widely known by many football experts around the world, as he was yet to showcase his mad talent mbele ya dunia, because Monaco were still waiting for the right time to introduce him to the world.

So, baada ya scouts kufahamishwa kuhusu Mbappe na Klopp, they started to do an extensive scouting procedure on the kid, then January TW of 2016 arrived, but we didnt make any approach, as we were waiting mpaka summer. and just like that, when summer's TW arrived, we made our first move, asking for his availability to Monaco, but unfortunately, Monaco rejected our approach, reason ikiwa walikuwa wanatarajia kumpa nafasi kubwa sana kwenye kikosi kwa msimu wa 2016/17, as was expected by Monaco/Klopp and our scouting department, this was the best season for Mbappe as he was introducing himself to the world, now it wasnt just us and Arsenal (Oh yes Wenger found him kabla yetu), biggest clubs around Europe wakaanza kujaza scouts wao kwenye games za Monaco, the kid was already a star tayari and just like any other talented baller, he was ready for the next move.

In the summer of 2017, Klopp decided to give a shot, remember this time around, Monaco told us he was AVAILABLE, so Klopp did kama alivyofanya kwa VVD, though haikuwa BLACKPOOL, but ilikuwa ni FRANCE, he travelled to FRANCE, akakutana na Mbappe pamoja na wazazi wake, our Alcoholic Nazi, did what he does best (selling his ideas), at the end, the kid and his parents loved our project and they gave us a GREEN-LIGHT (especially Kylian Mbappe, the Kid fell in love with Klopp, i'd say), so kazi ikabaki kwa Edwards na FSG, to try and negotiate with Monaco, they quoted us at 100m, Edwards akarudi kwanza Liverpool kuvuta pumzi, because the showdown of negotiation was about to begin, but few days later, news zikaanza kutoka from France kuwa, PSG, will sign the kid on loan kwa fee ya 100m and it will rise mpaka 160m (if am not mistaken) deal itakapokuwa permanent after a season, so as any other big club, tukatuma spies kwenye kambi za Monaco na PSG, ili kujua credibility ya hizo habari and internal details za makubaliano kati ya ya PSG na Mbappe's camp, majibu yakaja kuwa, its true PSG were offering that sorta amount and Monaco gave them a straight yes, and Mbappe and his family walikuwa pia wamepewa a massive offer interms of wages and bonuses/membership advancements. Man, we were thinking of offering Monaco 65m maximum (i repeat MAXIMUM). with standard wages as the kid was just 17 at that time. but baada ya internal details za PSG/MONACO and Mbappe's camp kufahamika, FSG wakaona hawatoweza kushindana na PSG kwa wakati ule, as Klopp wanted more than 2 players kwenye ile TW, so wakakaa na Klopp, he told them its ok, (remember at this time tulikuwa tunahangaishana na Southampton kuhusu VVD, and it was a big money move pia), i bet at this time they (FSG and Edwards) were both looking at him (klopp) ili kujua whats next, dont know, but i think Klopp atakuwa aliwaambia, "look, remember when we failed to sign Ousmanne Dembele? ...and we decided to go kwa 2nd choice, guess who? SADIO MANE". so the club started working kuhusiana na 2nd choice player (to Mbappe), ambaye alikuwa suggested by Klopp and it was JULIAN BRANDT, but the kid turned us down so quick, as he wanted to further his career in German (Weird right? Mbappe, a world star gave us a green light, but Brandt, German kid on the up' didnt want to even talk about the move), so back at MELWOOD, Edwards from nowhere, asks Klopp and Buvac, cant we just try on MOHAMED SALAH? (to this day, nadhani Edwards mentioned Salah kwasababu ya his commitment wakat anataka kuja LFC kipindi cha Rodgers, dude waited for our call for over 10 months, and when we called, Mourinho alikuwa tayari mlangoni kwa Salah, so yeah nadhani Edwards aliona hicho kitu,) so we looked at his numbers(goals contributions)/style of play etc, and we decided to take a bet, and that bet imekuwa ni WORLD STAR, breaking records after records, CL winner, and starring kwenye same commercials with Messi (haters hate to see it).

Man, Klopp still likes Mbappe to this day, na kama opportunity ya kumsajili itatokea, we'll surely sign him bila kusita, and yes, the kid likes us too, one of his very first goal celebration in a competitive match was that DANIEL STURRIDGE DANCE. but lets face it, he's the biggest young footballer in the world right now, he's viewed as the best available MESSI/RONALDO successor right now, he's the most valued player in the world right now, you need to have a massive massive budget to get him, and on top of that, dealing with PSG can be very dangerous. and, just to make things clear, player's value inakuja na package nzima, and hiyo package ni lazima iwe na wage structure inayoendana na player's value, reports zinaonesha Mbappe is earning not less that 350k p/w akiwa na miaka 20 tu.

FSG, works in American way, balancing the books without upsetting the net spend, so kama (big IF, or it should be an example), tukiamua kwenda all out for Mbappe (STAR-BOY), we'll have to sell 2-3 of our star players, ili ku-clear out wages for Mbappe and funding the Transfer, PSG are demanding 300m for Neymar right now (and, he's 27 i think), so just fikiria wata-demand how much for their star-kid, and its so simple to figure it out, unavyoona soccer mafias kama kina Perez wanasettle kwa kina Hazard/Jovic etc ujue wamejaribu na kushindwa kwa Mbappe. listened to his press few weeks ago, inaonesha kabisa he wants out, but you cant just get out at PSG, (main example, should be Verrati). unless mpaka owners watake uondoke, and comments za owner wa PSG za juzi zina-suggest kuwa they are willing to let Neymar go, but the fee ndiyo tatizo.

So, lets just forget about Mbappe now, yes inaweza ikatokea akaja LFC, but we shouldnt be hoping for that (not now), we cant sign him, we may have the pull (Jurgen Klopp), but hatuna tools (enough money). so lets just build this team, lets just cherish our front 3 (wote watatu walikuwa ni backup transfers), but they've delivered us a CL trophy, because sometimes you dont need one quality player upfront to win you trophies but unaweza ukahitaji 3 players with good chemistry to win you trophies. just build the team around them, get and sign top class players around them, they've showed kuwa they can win us trophies kama wakiwa na world class players behind them. so we cant afford to sell them ili kufund another transfer, and we cant afford to sell any of our world class players now, just build the team around them, tumefanikiwa kubuild the backline around VVD, build the Midfield around Fabinho, and build the attacking line around the front 3, so what we should do now? add quality depth, add quality players kwenye team ambayo tayari ina potential world beaters, City ambao ni our main competitors in the league now, wamekuwa na consistency kwenye league kwasababu kila TW wanaongeza quality players around their star players like Kompany (kabla hajaondoka), Fernandinho/David Silva/Aguero etc, look at Fergie's utd, he had consistency kwasababu alikuwa anaongeza qualities kwenye a very strong squad. so we should be doing the same.

we needed a world clas CB for years, and tumempata VVD so build the backline around him for the next 4-5 years, get very good/competitive young Defenders to learn and grow with him as their leader, do the same thing kwa Fabinho, go out and get good/competitive and top class midfielders to build and develop the MF around Faby for years to come, do the same kwa our front 3 (ndiyo maana huwa nasema tunahitaji sana a number 10 and good wingers to build and form a strong attacking line around the front 3).

Number 10s wote ambao tupo linked nao, wana-range katika 55m kushuka chini, which is a very good price for a top class number 10, considering players like Wan Bissaka are going for that same price, or Maguire for 70m, Rodri for 70m or Joao Felix for 120m. few years ago it was a must kuspend BIG, as our squad was so poor, hence we needed to splash the cash on Alisson/Virgil/Keita/Faby even Salah (Lol, remember when we thought 38m was too much him, because wakati wa Rodgers Basel wanted 11m tu), we needed to build a spine, now we have it, the main job ni kui-develop, how? by adding smart/quality/competitive depth kwenye squad. and thats how it should be.


Thats my personal take.
 
MosDef said:
Lacazzete at Barcelona. Loool

wont even take him at LFC man.


Think, his agent was taking the piss.
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hahaha under Klopp guidance or even Ernasto Laca can be fireeee.....

if you remember previous Epl Season Mane was pathetic at times, poor finishing and awful decision making, but look at his Bavarians away goal, Watford at home, Manu at home n.k and you will see how he has improved, he has improves his overral game this season..

in the meantime we are lacking that kind of talent that Laca has or even Barca Surez legs aint getting any younger...

Look at us at Bavarans at Anfiled and Us at Manu away or Us at Catalans away damn we were wasteful alot not to mention lacking that player with a proper instinct of a real striker, we werea bit lucky Origo stepped up in the right moments...

i have watched Laca a few times and that boy under proper guidance can be a real threat...
 
MosDef said:
KYLIAN MBAPPE STORY.

So, Klopp joined LFC on 2015, and upon his appointment, he sat down with FSG (Henry and Werner)/Head of Scout department (Dave Fallows)/Technical analysis director (Mike Edwards), he presented his plans and ideas zitakazosaidia kuirejesha Club katika ubora wake, mwisho kabisa, he presented majina ya wachezaji anaowahitaji for his project, the main aim and priority was to get young players in, as many as possible ili kutengeneza a generational team, so among the names ambazo Klopp ali-present, Mbappe and Ousmane Dembele walikuwepo kwenye list. (but we'll deal with Mbappe's part for now).

Remember, this was back in 2015, Mbappe was only 16 at that time (if am not mistaken), and he wasnt even widely known by many football experts around the world, as he was yet to showcase his mad talent mbele ya dunia, because Monaco were still waiting for the right time to introduce him to the world.

So, baada ya scouts kufahamishwa kuhusu Mbappe na Klopp, they started to do an extensive scouting procedure on the kid, then January TW of 2016 arrived, but we didnt make any approach, as we were waiting mpaka summer. and just like that, when summer's TW arrived, we made our first move, asking for his availability to Monaco, but unfortunately, Monaco rejected our approach, reason ikiwa walikuwa wanatarajia kumpa nafasi kubwa sana kwenye kikosi kwa msimu wa 2016/17, as was expected by Monaco/Klopp and our scouting department, this was the best season for Mbappe as he was introducing himself to the world, now it wasnt just us and Arsenal (Oh yes Wenger found him kabla yetu), biggest clubs around Europe wakaanza kujaza scouts wao kwenye games za Monaco, the kid was already a star tayari and just like any other talented baller, he was ready for the next move.

In the summer of 2017, Klopp decided to give a shot, remember this time around, Monaco told us he was AVAILABLE, so Klopp did kama alivyofanya kwa VVD, though haikuwa BLACKPOOL, but ilikuwa ni FRANCE, he travelled to FRANCE, akakutana na Mbappe pamoja na wazazi wake, our Alcoholic Nazi, did what he does best (selling his ideas), at the end, the kid and his parents loved our project and they gave us a GREEN-LIGHT (especially Kylian Mbappe, the Kid fell in love with Klopp, i'd say), so kazi ikabaki kwa Edwards na FSG, to try and negotiate with Monaco, they quoted us at 100m, Edwards akarudi kwanza Liverpool kuvuta pumzi, because the showdown of negotiation was about to begin, but few days later, news zikaanza kutoka from France kuwa, PSG, will sign the kid on loan kwa fee ya 100m and it will rise mpaka 160m (if am not mistaken) deal itakapokuwa permanent after a season, so as any other big club, tukatuma spies kwenye kambi za Monaco na PSG, ili kujua credibility ya hizo habari and internal details za makubaliano kati ya ya PSG na Mbappe's camp, majibu yakaja kuwa, its true PSG were offering that sorta amount and Monaco gave them a straight yes, and Mbappe and his family walikuwa pia wamepewa a massive offer interms of wages and bonuses/membership advancements. Man, we were thinking of offering Monaco 65m maximum (i repeat MAXIMUM). with standard wages as the kid was just 17 at that time. but baada ya internal details za PSG/MONACO and Mbappe's camp kufahamika, FSG wakaona hawatoweza kushindana na PSG kwa wakati ule, as Klopp wanted more than 2 players kwenye ile TW, so wakakaa na Klopp, he told them its ok, (remember at this time tulikuwa tunahangaishana na Southampton kuhusu VVD, and it was a big money move pia), i bet at this time they (FSG and Edwards) were both looking at him (klopp) ili kujua whats next, dont know, but i think Klopp atakuwa aliwaambia, "look, remember when we failed to sign Ousmanne Dembele? ...and we decided to go kwa 2nd choice, guess who? SADIO MANE". so the club started working kuhusiana na 2nd choice player (to Mbappe), ambaye alikuwa suggested by Klopp and it was JULIAN BRANDT, but the kid turned us down so quick, as he wanted to further his career in German (Weird right? Mbappe, a world star gave us a green light, but Brandt, German kid on the up' didnt want to even talk about the move), so back at MELWOOD, Edwards from nowhere, asks Klopp and Buvac, cant we just try on MOHAMED SALAH? (to this day, nadhani Edwards mentioned Salah kwasababu ya his commitment wakat anataka kuja LFC kipindi cha Rodgers, dude waited for our call for over 10 months, and when we called, Mourinho alikuwa tayari mlangoni kwa Salah, so yeah nadhani Edwards aliona hicho kitu,) so we looked at his numbers(goals contributions)/style of play etc, and we decided to take a bet, and that bet imekuwa ni WORLD STAR, breaking records after records, CL winner, and starring kwenye same commercials with Messi (haters hate to see it).

Man, Klopp still likes Mbappe to this day, na kama opportunity ya kumsajili itatokea, we'll surely sign him bila kusita, and yes, the kid likes us too, one of his very first goal celebration in a competitive match was that DANIEL STURRIDGE DANCE. but lets face it, he's the biggest young footballer in the world right now, he's viewed as the best available MESSI/RONALDO successor right now, he's the most valued player in the world right now, you need to have a massive massive budget to get him, and on top of that, dealing with PSG can be very dangerous. and, just to make things clear, player's value inakuja na package nzima, and hiyo package ni lazima iwe na wage structure inayoendana na player's value, reports zinaonesha Mbappe is earning not less that 350k p/w akiwa na miaka 20 tu.

FSG, works in American way, balancing the books without upsetting the net spend, so kama (big IF, or it should be an example), tukiamua kwenda all out for Mbappe (STAR-BOY), we'll have to sell 2-3 of our star players, ili ku-clear out wages for Mbappe and funding the Transfer, PSG are demanding 300m for Neymar right now (and, he's 27 i think), so just fikiria wata-demand how much for their star-kid, and its so simple to figure it out, unavyoona soccer mafias kama kina Perez wanasettle kwa kina Hazard/Jovic etc ujue wamejaribu na kushindwa kwa Mbappe. listened to his press few weeks ago, inaonesha kabisa he wants out, but you cant just get out at PSG, (main example, should be Verrati). unless mpaka owners watake uondoke, and comments za owner wa PSG za juzi zina-suggest kuwa they are willing to let Neymar go, but the fee ndiyo tatizo.

So, lets just forget about Mbappe now, yes inaweza ikatokea akaja LFC, but we shouldnt be hoping for that (not now), we cant sign him, we may have the pull (Jurgen Klopp), but hatuna tools (enough money). so lets just build this team, lets just cherish our front 3 (wote watatu walikuwa ni backup transfers), but they've delivered us a CL trophy, because sometimes you dont need one quality player upfront to win you trophies but unaweza ukahitaji 3 players with good chemistry to win you trophies. just build the team around them, get and sign top class players around them, they've showed kuwa they can win us trophies kama wakiwa na world class players behind them. so we cant afford to sell them ili kufund another transfer, and we cant afford to sell any of our world class players now, just build the team around them, tumefanikiwa kubuild the backline around VVD, build the Midfield around Fabinho, and build the attacking line around the front 3, so what we should do now? add quality depth, add quality players kwenye team ambayo tayari ina potential world beaters, City ambao ni our main competitors in the league now, wamekuwa na consistency kwenye league kwasababu kila TW wanaongeza quality players around their star players like Kompany (kabla hajaondoka), Fernandinho/David Silva/Aguero etc, look at Fergie's utd, he had consistency kwasababu alikuwa anaongeza qualities kwenye a very strong squad. so we should be doing the same.

we needed a world clas CB for years, and tumempata VVD so build the backline around him for the next 4-5 years, get very good/competitive young Defenders to learn and grow with him as their leader, do the same thing kwa Fabinho, go out and get good/competitive and top class midfielders to build and develop the MF around Faby for years to come, do the same kwa our front 3 (ndiyo maana huwa nasema tunahitaji sana a number 10 and good wingers to build and form a strong attacking line around the front 3).

Number 10s wote ambao tupo linked nao, wana-range katika 55m kushuka chini, which is a very good price for a top class number 10, considering players like Wan Bissaka are going for that same price, or Maguire for 70m, Rodri for 70m or Joao Felix for 120m. few years ago it was a must kuspend BIG, as our squad was so poor, hence we needed to splash the cash on Alisson/Virgil/Keita/Faby even Salah (Lol, remember when we thought 38m was too much him, because wakati wa Rodgers Basel wanted 11m tu), we needed to build a spine, now we have it, the main job ni kui-develop, how? by adding smart/quality/competitive depth kwenye squad. and thats how it should be.


Thats my personal take.
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i wouldnt say otherwise,Mbappe is class but damn expensive n the wage bill il just shoot up considering our American Owners aint th Arabs cash rich i dont see this happening...

To win EPL there are a few additions that can make us better for a fair price of below £70m( Fekir, Pepe, Fernades, Ziyach n.k) they wont cost us above £70m@ and they will make us more compact and competitive

instead of one Mbappe we have like 3 more positions that we need to fill, we need Robbi back up, flexible winger to play both flanks, a real 10 to open up th stubborn defences...for the number 9, Klopp is bit undecided as he plans to use Origi and Rhian more come next season...

If FSG has that fat wallet i wouldnt suggest they go for this blazing star...
 
MosDef said:
That was a big Klopp's mistake man.
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true and the boy is ready to fight for his place instead of seeking out...

Southmpton were interested but man they wont pay that kind of salary...

Lallan and Lovren earn cool £215,00 and mostly they are injured...Klopp should be offloading this boys...just need to relax the wage bill..

Chamberlin and Harry Wilson( if he stays) will be in the squad next season and you wonder where Lallan will fit, its better they cash on him now now...
 
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