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Yap! Na Ndiyomana Huwa ninashangaa Ninapowaona Baadhi Ya Mashabiki Wanafurahia Just Liverpool to be in top four regardless about Trophies!

Liverpool was not born to be Top 4 contender! But to be a Tittle Contender!!!

Even though! Bado Nina some hope na Klopp ya kupata some fruits.

absolutely.

naona baadhi ya members hawalijui vizuri chama la LFC na wanaliweka kwenye bracket moja na the likes of Spurs, which is "bull". mimi siwezi kutumbukia kwenye bandwagon ya mediocrity kama hii.

kama kucheza good attractively attacking football - nani wa kumzidi Roy Evans kwa kizazi cha EPL? walau yeye alibeba kombe la mbuzi kwenye first season ingawa hakubeba kingine chochote kwa miaka yote 4 aliyokaa klabuni.
je, mnataka tuendelee kumkenulia meno Klopp atupeleke kwenye route hiyo? count me f....g out!
Klopp must win something...and quick!

 

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the article below (courtesy of Liverpool Echo) is a brutal but honest assessment of what to expect and not to expect from the current Salah- (and of course Klopp-) inspired LFC side.

read on.....

Mohamed Salah - when the goals dry up, is he really up to much?

Our LFC columnist Derek MGovern has not only thought the unthinkable but said it - Mo Salah may be the new Clive Allen

I admit I'm not the cleverest guy in the world – until I was 18 I thought Doris Day was a national holiday for women – but Mo Salah ...is he really up to much?
Such a question amounts almost to heresy given that the Egyptian has scored so freely but questions remain.

You can't question Salah's goalscoring prowess, not when he's hit 30 before February is out, but the fear is that when the goals dry up – as they will – Salah will contribute very little indeed.

His goals against Tottenham and Southampton earned him the man-of-the-match award both times – yet he was otherwise appalling against Spurs and little better against Saints.

Those 89 minutes of uselessness were wiped clean by a few seconds of deadliness. I remember being in a minority of one on Merseyside when pointing out the glaring weaknesses in Fernando Torres's game at the very time he was banging in goals every match. The goals will dry up, I said, and he'll still be useless.

Sure enough, they did and he was. He was flogged to Chelsea where he finished like Devon Loch. Salah to me looks another Torres, minus the haircut.

I know what you're thinking: goals are the only currency that matters, especially now the Bitcoin is floundering, and players who can supply them are priceless.

But I beg to differ, and as Exhibit A I give you Ruud van Nistelrooy, the former Manchester United centaur-forward who scored plenty of goals with his head despite being only 15 hands tall.

Ruud Van Nistelrooy of Manchester United
The Dutchman scored prolifically during his days at Old Trafford yet United suffered for his presence in the team. He wore a Red shirt from 2001 to 2006, slap bang in the middle of United's domination of the Premier League, you may have thought.

Yet in those years the Red Devils won just one Premier League title, one FA Cup, and one League Cup. A good haul for an ordinary club; pretty much a trophy drought for United.

Alex Ferguson's men had won the Treble shortly before van Nistelrooy arrived and won the Premier League and the Champions League in the two seasons after he left.

In other words a man who was incomparable in goal-getting but a nincompoop in everything else was responsible for United's worst spell until Agent Moyes took over.

Liverpool's Mohamed Salah celebrates scoring their second goal at Southampton
What I'm saying is that the player who provides an unlimited supply of goals is a godsend to a team, but only if he can be counted on to contribute elsewhere.

As Exhibit B I give you Jermain Defoe – I have to give you him because no-one will buy him. Defoe has scored goals throughout his career but throughout his career he has won just one League Cup.

In the box he's priceless, outside the box clueless. Goals win you headlines and man-of-the-match awards but, if that's all you've got, they won't win you titles.

Clive Allen of Tottenham Hotspur

Salah is having what I like to call a 'Clive Allen season' because it makes me sound kind of clever. In 1986-87
Allen scored an incredible 49 times for Tottenham – for nine months everything he touched turned to goal, pretty much like Salah this term.

Yet though he was banging in all those goals, any reasonably intelligent football fan knew he wasn't really up to much. Sure enough, after a season that saw Spurs win NOTHING, Allen was unceremoniously palmed off to Bordeaux the following Autumn.

Salah may yet prove to be the real deal. He may yet make this column read like the biggest load of nonsense since whatever it was I wrote last week.

But to me right now he's far from the finished product, and wouldn't be even if he had a right foot.

 

[Gwamahala]

the article below (courtesy of Liverpool Echo) is a brutal but honest assessment of what to expect and not to expect from the current Salah- (and of course Klopp-) inspired LFC side.

read on.....

Mohamed Salah - when the goals dry up, is he really up to much?

Our LFC columnist Derek MGovern has not only thought the unthinkable but said it - Mo Salah may be the new Clive Allen

I admit I'm not the cleverest guy in the world – until I was 18 I thought Doris Day was a national holiday for women – but Mo Salah ...is he really up to much?
Such a question amounts almost to heresy given that the Egyptian has scored so freely but questions remain.

You can't question Salah's goalscoring prowess, not when he's hit 30 before February is out, but the fear is that when the goals dry up – as they will – Salah will contribute very little indeed.

His goals against Tottenham and Southampton earned him the man-of-the-match award both times – yet he was otherwise appalling against Spurs and little better against Saints.

Those 89 minutes of uselessness were wiped clean by a few seconds of deadliness. I remember being in a minority of one on Merseyside when pointing out the glaring weaknesses in Fernando Torres's game at the very time he was banging in goals every match. The goals will dry up, I said, and he'll still be useless.

Sure enough, they did and he was. He was flogged to Chelsea where he finished like Devon Loch. Salah to me looks another Torres, minus the haircut.

I know what you're thinking: goals are the only currency that matters, especially now the Bitcoin is floundering, and players who can supply them are priceless.

But I beg to differ, and as Exhibit A I give you Ruud van Nistelrooy, the former Manchester United centaur-forward who scored plenty of goals with his head despite being only 15 hands tall.

Ruud Van Nistelrooy of Manchester United
The Dutchman scored prolifically during his days at Old Trafford yet United suffered for his presence in the team. He wore a Red shirt from 2001 to 2006, slap bang in the middle of United's domination of the Premier League, you may have thought.

Yet in those years the Red Devils won just one Premier League title, one FA Cup, and one League Cup. A good haul for an ordinary club; pretty much a trophy drought for United.

Alex Ferguson's men had won the Treble shortly before van Nistelrooy arrived and won the Premier League and the Champions League in the two seasons after he left.

In other words a man who was incomparable in goal-getting but a nincompoop in everything else was responsible for United's worst spell until Agent Moyes took over.

Liverpool's Mohamed Salah celebrates scoring their second goal at Southampton
What I'm saying is that the player who provides an unlimited supply of goals is a godsend to a team, but only if he can be counted on to contribute elsewhere.

As Exhibit B I give you Jermain Defoe – I have to give you him because no-one will buy him. Defoe has scored goals throughout his career but throughout his career he has won just one League Cup.

In the box he's priceless, outside the box clueless. Goals win you headlines and man-of-the-match awards but, if that's all you've got, they won't win you titles.

Clive Allen of Tottenham Hotspur

Salah is having what I like to call a 'Clive Allen season' because it makes me sound kind of clever. In 1986-87
Allen scored an incredible 49 times for Tottenham – for nine months everything he touched turned to goal, pretty much like Salah this term.

Yet though he was banging in all those goals, any reasonably intelligent football fan knew he wasn't really up to much. Sure enough, after a season that saw Spurs win NOTHING, Allen was unceremoniously palmed off to Bordeaux the following Autumn.

Salah may yet prove to be the real deal. He may yet make this column read like the biggest load of nonsense since whatever it was I wrote last week.

But to me right now he's far from the finished product, and wouldn't be even if he had a right foot.

Huyo mwandishi anapiga RAMLI tu hakuna chochote kwa kuwa Mo Salah ni mwarabu...angekuwa muingereza mwenzake hayo yote asiyeyasema!
Mo Salah ni moto sasahivi hauzimiki leo wala kesho.

 

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Huyo mwandishi anapiga RAMLI tu hakuna chochote kwa kuwa Mo Salah ni mwarabu...angekuwa muingereza mwenzake hayo yote asiyeyasema!
Mo Salah ni moto sasahivi hauzimiki leo wala kesho.

kamlinganisha na mzungu mwenzake ambaye timu yake haikupata mafanikio yoyote pamoja na yeye kupata individual accolades. so, siyo suala la muarabu vs mzungu.

besides, nadhani hujaipatapata "the bone of contention" ya article hii.

 

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Klopp is cool but we need a f.....g silverware. that's LFC's DNA!!

Conte has lifted an EPL title in his first season.
Mourinho lifted 2 trophies with Manure in his debut season.
that's what we'll gauge Klopp against... being in his 3rd season with zero silverware is not good enough for LFC.

Conte alirithi team nzuri sana Chelsea,wachezaji walimgomea tu Mourihno na sera zake za ku pack Bus.
Pep alirithi team nzuri Man City akikosa tu mabeki wa pembeni kuanzisha mashambulizi
Klopp alirithi team beki wa tegemezi ni Skrtel na Kolo Toure,mbele tunamtegemea Origi!
Sasa ndiyo Klopp ametengeneza team,bado tu kwa kipa kama Karius atazingua atakuja Allison!
Makombe yanaanza kuja Liverpool wala haina wasiwasi

 

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Ktk modern Liverpool ilipotezwa mno na huyu kocha kichaa Brendan Rogers!Kocha Rogers alikuwa hajui anacho fanya na ndiyo akaitoa tena Liverpool kwenye mstari ambao iliundwa na Mzee Dalglish!
Alipouuzwa Suarez yy akamleta Rick Lambert kama ndiyo mrithi wake,akamleta Kolo Toure kama sweeper kisha akamtoa Andy Carrol!What a trashes?
Sasa Liverpool ndiyo ipo kwenye mstari,Klopp ndiyo anajenga team ya ushindani na sasa ndiyo anamalizia kuimarisha!
Hata nyie mnajua,lini mliiona Liverpool iliyo kamili kama hii?

 

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Huyo mwandishi anapiga RAMLI tu hakuna chochote kwa kuwa Mo Salah ni mwarabu...angekuwa muingereza mwenzake hayo yote asiyeyasema!
Mo Salah ni moto sasahivi hauzimiki leo wala kesho.

Mkuu nahisi umebeba dhana tu ya Post lakini Hukuifahamu Maana Ya Post.
Mwandishi Hakumponda Salah Bali Alichomaanisha Anaweza Akafunga Magoli 50 kwa one season lakini tukaishia patupu bila ya Hata Kikombe cha Kahawa.
Na Akatoa Mifano Ya Baadhi ya Wachezaji Waliowika Kwa Ufungaji Lakini Hawakushinda Kitu.
Kama Vile Torres.
Mfano Ndiyo Huu Tumefunga Migoli Mingi tukizidiwa na Man City tu Kwa Timu zote za Uengereza lakini Tunagombania Nafasi Ya NNE kama kawa.
So, Mwandishi Hajamdharau Salah Bali Kaonesha Mtazamo wake tu Kuwa Huenda akawa Anascore for nothing.

 

[Gwamahala]

kamlinganisha na mzungu mwenzake ambaye timu yake haikupata mafanikio yoyote pamoja na yeye kupata individual accolades. so, siyo suala la muarabu vs mzungu.

besides, nadhani hujaipatapata "the bone of contention" ya article hii.

Nimeielewa vizuri sana hiyo article...alichoandika ni sawa na kupiga RAMLI tu kwa maoni yangu!

 

[Gwamahala]

Mkuu nahisi umebeba dhana tu ya Post lakini Hukuifahamu Maana Ya Post.
Mwandishi Hakumponda Salah Bali Alichomaanisha Anaweza Akafunga Magoli 50 kwa one season lakini tukaishia patupu bila ya Hata Kikombe cha Kahawa.
Na Akatoa Mifano Ya Baadhi ya Wachezaji Waliowika Kwa Ufungaji Lakini Hawakushinda Kitu.
Kama Vile Torres.
Mfano Ndiyo Huu Tumefunga Migoli Mingi tukizidiwa na Man City tu Kwa Timu zote za Uengereza lakini Tunagombania Nafasi Ya NNE kama kawa.
So, Mwandishi Hajamdharau Salah Bali Kaonesha Mtazamo wake tu Kuwa Huenda akawa Anascore for nothing.

Ndiyo maana nikasema mwandishi ni mpiga RAMLI tu, yeye anajuaje kama Liverpool haiwezi kushinda kikombe chochote wakati timu ni kama ishaingia quarter finals za UEFA Champions League???
Je timu ikibeba UEFA?
What about next season...hatuwezi pia kubeba chochote? Huyo journalist ni mzushi tu hajui chochote hata kama katoa hizo references kibao.

 

[Gwamahala]

Eti Salah anascore for nothing...seriously???

 

[Rajab_Omar]

Ndiyo maana nikasema mwandishi ni mpiga RAMLI tu, yeye anajuaje kama Liverpool haiwezi kushinda kikombe chochote wakati timu ni kama ishaingia quarter finals za UEFA Champions League???
Je timu ikibeba UEFA?
What about next season...hatuwezi pia kubeba chochote? Huyo journalist ni mzushi tu hajui chochote hata kama katoa hizo references kibao.

Kwanza Mkuu Usije nifahamu vibaya sikusudii Kukubishia Coz Sote ni Kopites!
Pili ni Kwamba Mwandishi Hajasema Kuwa Liverpool Haitoshinda Chochote! Bali ameonesha Wasiwasi Wake Kuhusu Kufunga Migoli bila ya Kombe!!!!

 

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Klopp: “The way people talk about Alberto Moreno, it was never fair, that’s just how it is. If you see Alberto Moreno training, there’s nobody in the squad has a shadow of a doubt about him quality-wise.
Now Alberto has to fight, no doubt about that, but we need two left-backs, we cannot go into the season with one.”

 

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Ndiyo maana nikasema mwandishi ni mpiga RAMLI tu, yeye anajuaje kama Liverpool haiwezi kushinda kikombe chochote wakati timu ni kama ishaingia quarter finals za UEFA Champions League???
Je timu ikibeba UEFA?
What about next season...hatuwezi pia kubeba chochote? Huyo journalist ni mzushi tu hajui chochote hata kama katoa hizo references kibao.

rudia kusoma article hata mara 10. utamuelewa tu mkuu...

 

[Rajab_Omar]

Eti Salah anascore for nothing...seriously???

Halafu Mkuu Yale ni Mawazo tu Aliyoyajadili Wala hayana ulazima yawe Kweli!
Kwahiyo ni hiari yako Kuyakubali au Kuyakataa! Unapoona Ni Bullshit just unapotezea!
Mkuu Wafanye Wachangiaji Wawe Huru Kueka na Habari na Kuchangia Katika Kuzijadili nyuzi hizo.

 

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Kwanza Mkuu Usije nifahamu vibaya sikusudii Kukubishia Coz Sote ni Kopites!
Pili ni Kwamba Mwandishi Hajasema Kuwa Liverpool Haitoshinda Chochote! Bali ameonesha Wasiwasi Wake Kuhusu Kufunga Migoli bila ya Kombe!!!!

Kwanini aoneshe wasiwasi kuwa ni magoli bila kombe??
Ndiyo maana bado nasisitiza kuwa mwandishi anapiga RAMLI huyo!

 

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Kwanza Mkuu Usije nifahamu vibaya sikusudii Kukubishia Coz Sote ni Kopites!
Pili ni Kwamba Mwandishi Hajasema Kuwa Liverpool Haitoshinda Chochote! Bali ameonesha Wasiwasi Wake Kuhusu Kufunga Migoli bila ya Kombe!!!!

exactly

 

[Gwamahala]

rudia kusoma article hata mara 10. utamuelewa tu mkuu...

Kwahiyo wewe unadhani sijamuelewa mwandishi...like really?!

 

[the muter]

Kwanza Mkuu Usije nifahamu vibaya sikusudii Kukubishia Coz Sote ni Kopites!
Pili ni Kwamba Mwandishi Hajasema Kuwa Liverpool Haitoshinda Chochote! Bali ameonesha Wasiwasi Wake Kuhusu Kufunga Migoli bila ya Kombe!!!!

Mimi nashangaa anabishia nini, kwan Mara ngap salah anafunga na beki zinazembea mpka linarudishwa? Mfano game na chelsea, spurs nk. Angalia magoli tuliyofunga ni mengi sana ila goal difference tunazidiwa hata na man u kisa wenzetu waneruhusu goli chache sana.Sevila kwao tuliwapga tatu wakarudisha, man city tuliwapiga nne nusura warudishe. Lazma kila sehemu iwajibike vilivyo sio kuwaachia washambuliaji tu km kweli tunataka kuchukua vikombe

 

[Malafyale]

Mimi nashangaa anabishia nini, kwan Mara ngap salah anafunga na beki zinazembea mpka linarudishwa? Mfano game na chelsea, spurs nk. Angalia magoli tuliyofunga ni mengi sana ila goal difference tunazidiwa hata na man u kisa wenzetu waneruhusu goli chache sana.Sevila kwao tuliwapga tatu wakarudisha, man city tuliwapiga nne nusura warudishe. Lazma kila sehemu iwajibike vilivyo sio kuwaachia washambuliaji tu km kweli tunataka kuchukua vikombe

Pep anaongoza kwa kufunga mbona leo katolewa FA Cup tena na team ya daraja la pili?
Mwandishi ni mpiga ramli tu hana lolote la maana!
Then kwenye soka ‘nusura MN City warudishe ndiyo nn’?

 

[Malafyale]

Pep Guardiola OUT
Pep out
Leo katolewa robo final na team ya Daraja la pili Wigan
Pep OUT
Upuuzi mtupu hapa kwa baadhi ya wachambuzi uchwara!