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Liverpool FC (The Reds) | Special Thread
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Labda unampeleka wewe
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Sawa sina uwezo... wewe naona una uwezo wa kumpeleka Camp nou haya mpeleke nimekuruhusu
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Pesa sio kila kitu
kumbuka Hleb hata Fabrigas kilichowakuta
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Mkuu dogo haondoki hizo ni rumors, club imesema haijapokea dau lolote jipya toka dau lao lile walilotuma mwanzo na hata wakituma dau lingine basi wajjue tuu kuwa dogo hauzwi, kwahiyo ondoa hofu mkuu.
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Utd hana wings kama zetu za kupress kwa nguvu na haraka nakupata goal shavu la Mane na shavu la Salah mkuu hata uwe na beki gani tutakuvuruga tu tusipo funga wenyewe basi utajikuta beki zako zinajifunga, tunakosa midfilder moja tu yenye kunyumbulika basi
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Jamaa kang'ang'ania utasema wanaenda nae haha
Atakuwa anampeleka yeye.
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Mkataba wa Coutihno HAMNA buy out clause
Klopp aliisha ona haya akaondoa hicho kipengele
Coutihno wenye kauli ya mwiho ni Liverpool hasa Klopp
Hawezi kuuzwa na wenye team wakilazimisha tujiandae kumpoteza Klopp
Kumbuka aliondoka BVB kwa sababu ya kutoelewana na watawala kuhusu kuuza uza!
Coutihno hana kisingizio cha kuondoka sababu hata sisi tunacheza champion league
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Pia usisahau kuwa "MKATABA UNAONGEA" Kinachotufanya tujiamini Kubakia Kwa Coutinho ni Mkataba wake Hauna kifungu cha RELEASE CLAUSE.....
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Anaye-force move ya Cou ni agent wake inaonekana kuna makubaliano ameshafanya sasa inabaki yeye kumfanya Cou ajaribu kututikisa even though tuki-block move yake tujiandae kumkosa kwa game za kwanza ...
Cou is not for sale
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Philippe Coutinho: Liverpool reject Barcelona's £90m bid for Brazil star
By Mandeep Sanghera
BBC Sport
Philippe Coutinho scored 14 goals last season
Liverpool have rejected a bid of 100 million euros (£90m) from Barcelona for Brazil playmaker Philippe Coutinho.
Barca's second bid for the 25-year-old, which was rejected immediately, comprised an initial 85m euros (£76.8m) plus 15m euros (£13.5m) in add-ons.
Liverpool have reiterated that Coutinho - who joined them from Inter Milan for £8.5m in 2013 - is not for sale.
Barcelona sold Brazil forward Neymar to Paris St-Germain for a world record transfer of £200m last week.
Coutinho who scored 14 goals last term and spent six weeks out with an ankle injury, signed a new five-year deal in January, which did not include a release clause.
Manager Jurgen Klopp said the Reds were not "a selling club" when Barca's previous £72m offer was rejected in July, and Liverpool consider the matter closed.
By Mandeep Sanghera
BBC Sport
Philippe Coutinho scored 14 goals last season
Liverpool have rejected a bid of 100 million euros (£90m) from Barcelona for Brazil playmaker Philippe Coutinho.
Barca's second bid for the 25-year-old, which was rejected immediately, comprised an initial 85m euros (£76.8m) plus 15m euros (£13.5m) in add-ons.
Liverpool have reiterated that Coutinho - who joined them from Inter Milan for £8.5m in 2013 - is not for sale.
Barcelona sold Brazil forward Neymar to Paris St-Germain for a world record transfer of £200m last week.
Coutinho who scored 14 goals last term and spent six weeks out with an ankle injury, signed a new five-year deal in January, which did not include a release clause.
Manager Jurgen Klopp said the Reds were not "a selling club" when Barca's previous £72m offer was rejected in July, and Liverpool consider the matter closed.
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Philippe Coutinho: Can Liverpool afford to sell the Brazilian to Barcelona?
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"A club like Liverpool needs to be in the Champions League" says Jurgen Klopp.
As he spoke after his side secured fourth place in the Premier League on the final day of last season, it was pretty obvious what manager Jurgen Klopp was getting at.
Playing in Europe's premier club competition attracts a higher calibre of player, and is therefore likely to bring about more on-field success. It should also ensure you keep your best talent.
Yet Liverpool are facing a fight to keep their star man at Anfield this summer.
Spanish giants Barcelona's 100 million euros (£90m) bid, comprising an initial 85m euros (£76.8m) plus 15m euros (£13.5m) in add-ons, was rejected immediately.
Former Reds defender Mark Lawrenson does not think the club can afford to lose the Brazil attacking midfielder.
BBC Sport analyses what Coutinho brings to Liverpool, how they would replace him if he did leave and looks at the Reds' other summer transfer business.
Liverpool 'a different team' with Coutinho
Since arriving from Inter Milan for £8.5m in January 2013, Coutinho has developed into Liverpool's most potent attacking threat.
That was particularly true last season, when the Reds finished inside the top four for the first time since they were beaten to the title in 2013-14. Coutinho, 25, enjoyed his most productive season since arriving at Anfield.
Coutinho in the Premier League
Season Games played Minutes played Goals Assists Chances created (inc. assists)
2012-2013 13 932 3 5 20
2013-2014 33 2,334 5 7 67
2014-2015 35 2,799 5 5 59
2015-2016 26 2,003 8 5 50
2016-2017 31 2,243 13 7 65
"They would miss his goals and assists, and they are a completely different team with him," said Lawrenson, who helped the club win 12 major trophies between 1981 and 1988.
"He's a massive influence on the other players. Roberto Firmino, particularly, thrives off him and you can see the reaction of Adam Lallana, Sadio Mane and Georginio Wijnaldum too.
"When your best player is playing, and playing well, you are a different side. He has that spark, a bit of magic that lifts the other players.
"All those players also get more room when Coutinho is playing because he is identified as the player to stop."
Who made Liverpool tick in front of goal last season?
Goals Assists Total
Philippe Coutinho 14 9 23
Roberto Firmino 12 8 20
Sadio Mane 13 7 20
Georginio Wijnaldum 6 11 17
Adam Lallana 8 7 15
Could Sturridge fill the void?
If Coutinho did leave for La Liga, how would Liverpool - who have consistently said he is not for sale - attempt to replace him?
"I think Liverpool would try to adapt by buying a similar player - attacking midfielder, a number 10. Or Klopp might go and splash out on a striker," said Lawrenson.
"But everyone is looking for those sort of players who provide that bit of magic. Who do you get?"
That's a question only Klopp and the Liverpool hierarchy can answer.
Liverpool's main reported transfer targets this summer have been RB Leipzig midfielder Naby Keita and Southampton captain Virgil van Dijk. The Reds are not being linked with many attacking players.
That will change if Coutinho does leave for the Nou Camp.
Klopp might have one solution already at his disposal: Daniel Sturridge.
The injury-hit striker, 27, has been restricted to just 46 league appearances in the past three seasons, but Klopp says the England international is in the "best condition" he has been in during the German's time at Anfield.
"There have been a lot of false dawns with Daniel because of all the injuries," said Lawrenson, who won 39 caps for the Republic of Ireland. "There is no issue whatsoever with his ability. The issue is keeping him - or getting him - on the pitch.
"I think Klopp wants to keep him. It is a big season for Daniel because he has to persuade everybody, including the supporters, that he is capable of playing and scoring on a regular basis.
"He has the ability to score and make goals for himself. He sees things at times even Coutinho doesn't see. But it is no good if he is sat in the stands every week."
Who has provided Liverpool's goals since Coutinho's debut?
Goals Assists Total
Philippe Coutinho 34 29 63
Daniel Sturridge 43 13 56
Luis Suarez 37 14 51
Jordan Henderson 16 24 40
Steven Gerrard 25 14 39
Have Liverpool invested enough this summer?
Liverpool, who finished 17 points adrift of champions Chelsea last season, have been relatively frugal in the transfer market compared to their top-four rivals.
The Reds have spent about £44m so far this summer on Roma right-winger Mohamed Salah and Hull City left-back Andrew Robertson, also signing teenage Chelsea striker Dominic Solanke for a fee to be decided by a tribunal.
In contrast, Manchester City have spent £204m, Manchester United £146m and Chelsea £119m.
"Liverpool have not invested enough to make the step up from scraping into the top four to challenging for the title," Lawrenson said.
"The problem is Liverpool haven't got that kind of money and the other big guns are strengthening by the day and spending so much money.
"They still need a couple more players, and if Coutinho goes then that couple might go to four."
Where do Liverpool need to strengthen?
The Reds were willing to pay a club record fee for Keita - whose manager Ralph Hasenhuttl - while they are still being linked with Dutch defender Van Dijk, despite insisting last month their interest had ended in June.
Lawrenson agrees these two areas - a "top-class" centre-back and a midfielder with "guile" - should be Klopp's priorities.
"I think they will end up getting Van Dijk," Lawrenson, a former centre-back, said. "I have no inside knowledge but it would appear he wants to come to Liverpool.
"He brings quality, can play from the back, which is great, and with four centre-backs - Dejan Lovren, Joel Matip and Ragnar Klavan - it brings competition for places.
"Bringing in a quality player improves the games of the players around them. It keeps everyone on their toes.
"If you know you are going to play in week in, week out it is never quite the same.
"If you turn up on Friday and think 'I didn't play very well last week, am I going to play?' it is completely different."
"I think Liverpool lack a bit of guile in midfield," said Lawrenson. "And that's even with Coutinho in the side.
"Jordan Henderson back and fit is a massive bonus, while Emre Can is up and down, up and down, and never stops.
"But I want what I would label a 'clever' midfielder. Someone in there who sees the bigger picture.
"If you look at their results against so-called lesser teams, they were nowhere near as good as the results against the other top five or six teams.
"The top teams come and play and back themselves to beat you. All the others come and stop you playing.
"You can't have enough people who can unlock the door. And that includes Coutinho."
Liverpool perform better with Coutinho (just)
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"A club like Liverpool needs to be in the Champions League" says Jurgen Klopp.
As he spoke after his side secured fourth place in the Premier League on the final day of last season, it was pretty obvious what manager Jurgen Klopp was getting at.
Playing in Europe's premier club competition attracts a higher calibre of player, and is therefore likely to bring about more on-field success. It should also ensure you keep your best talent.
Yet Liverpool are facing a fight to keep their star man at Anfield this summer.
Spanish giants Barcelona's 100 million euros (£90m) bid, comprising an initial 85m euros (£76.8m) plus 15m euros (£13.5m) in add-ons, was rejected immediately.
Former Reds defender Mark Lawrenson does not think the club can afford to lose the Brazil attacking midfielder.
BBC Sport analyses what Coutinho brings to Liverpool, how they would replace him if he did leave and looks at the Reds' other summer transfer business.
Liverpool 'a different team' with Coutinho
Since arriving from Inter Milan for £8.5m in January 2013, Coutinho has developed into Liverpool's most potent attacking threat.
That was particularly true last season, when the Reds finished inside the top four for the first time since they were beaten to the title in 2013-14. Coutinho, 25, enjoyed his most productive season since arriving at Anfield.
Coutinho in the Premier League
Season Games played Minutes played Goals Assists Chances created (inc. assists)
2012-2013 13 932 3 5 20
2013-2014 33 2,334 5 7 67
2014-2015 35 2,799 5 5 59
2015-2016 26 2,003 8 5 50
2016-2017 31 2,243 13 7 65
"They would miss his goals and assists, and they are a completely different team with him," said Lawrenson, who helped the club win 12 major trophies between 1981 and 1988.
"He's a massive influence on the other players. Roberto Firmino, particularly, thrives off him and you can see the reaction of Adam Lallana, Sadio Mane and Georginio Wijnaldum too.
"When your best player is playing, and playing well, you are a different side. He has that spark, a bit of magic that lifts the other players.
"All those players also get more room when Coutinho is playing because he is identified as the player to stop."
Who made Liverpool tick in front of goal last season?
Goals Assists Total
Philippe Coutinho 14 9 23
Roberto Firmino 12 8 20
Sadio Mane 13 7 20
Georginio Wijnaldum 6 11 17
Adam Lallana 8 7 15
Could Sturridge fill the void?
If Coutinho did leave for La Liga, how would Liverpool - who have consistently said he is not for sale - attempt to replace him?
"I think Liverpool would try to adapt by buying a similar player - attacking midfielder, a number 10. Or Klopp might go and splash out on a striker," said Lawrenson.
"But everyone is looking for those sort of players who provide that bit of magic. Who do you get?"
That's a question only Klopp and the Liverpool hierarchy can answer.
Liverpool's main reported transfer targets this summer have been RB Leipzig midfielder Naby Keita and Southampton captain Virgil van Dijk. The Reds are not being linked with many attacking players.
That will change if Coutinho does leave for the Nou Camp.
Klopp might have one solution already at his disposal: Daniel Sturridge.
The injury-hit striker, 27, has been restricted to just 46 league appearances in the past three seasons, but Klopp says the England international is in the "best condition" he has been in during the German's time at Anfield.
"There have been a lot of false dawns with Daniel because of all the injuries," said Lawrenson, who won 39 caps for the Republic of Ireland. "There is no issue whatsoever with his ability. The issue is keeping him - or getting him - on the pitch.
"I think Klopp wants to keep him. It is a big season for Daniel because he has to persuade everybody, including the supporters, that he is capable of playing and scoring on a regular basis.
"He has the ability to score and make goals for himself. He sees things at times even Coutinho doesn't see. But it is no good if he is sat in the stands every week."
Who has provided Liverpool's goals since Coutinho's debut?
Goals Assists Total
Philippe Coutinho 34 29 63
Daniel Sturridge 43 13 56
Luis Suarez 37 14 51
Jordan Henderson 16 24 40
Steven Gerrard 25 14 39
Have Liverpool invested enough this summer?
Liverpool, who finished 17 points adrift of champions Chelsea last season, have been relatively frugal in the transfer market compared to their top-four rivals.
The Reds have spent about £44m so far this summer on Roma right-winger Mohamed Salah and Hull City left-back Andrew Robertson, also signing teenage Chelsea striker Dominic Solanke for a fee to be decided by a tribunal.
In contrast, Manchester City have spent £204m, Manchester United £146m and Chelsea £119m.
"Liverpool have not invested enough to make the step up from scraping into the top four to challenging for the title," Lawrenson said.
"The problem is Liverpool haven't got that kind of money and the other big guns are strengthening by the day and spending so much money.
"They still need a couple more players, and if Coutinho goes then that couple might go to four."
Where do Liverpool need to strengthen?
The Reds were willing to pay a club record fee for Keita - whose manager Ralph Hasenhuttl - while they are still being linked with Dutch defender Van Dijk, despite insisting last month their interest had ended in June.
Lawrenson agrees these two areas - a "top-class" centre-back and a midfielder with "guile" - should be Klopp's priorities.
"I think they will end up getting Van Dijk," Lawrenson, a former centre-back, said. "I have no inside knowledge but it would appear he wants to come to Liverpool.
"He brings quality, can play from the back, which is great, and with four centre-backs - Dejan Lovren, Joel Matip and Ragnar Klavan - it brings competition for places.
"Bringing in a quality player improves the games of the players around them. It keeps everyone on their toes.
"If you know you are going to play in week in, week out it is never quite the same.
"If you turn up on Friday and think 'I didn't play very well last week, am I going to play?' it is completely different."
"I think Liverpool lack a bit of guile in midfield," said Lawrenson. "And that's even with Coutinho in the side.
"Jordan Henderson back and fit is a massive bonus, while Emre Can is up and down, up and down, and never stops.
"But I want what I would label a 'clever' midfielder. Someone in there who sees the bigger picture.
"If you look at their results against so-called lesser teams, they were nowhere near as good as the results against the other top five or six teams.
"The top teams come and play and back themselves to beat you. All the others come and stop you playing.
"You can't have enough people who can unlock the door. And that includes Coutinho."
Liverpool perform better with Coutinho (just)
- Liverpool have won 54.1% of league matches with Coutinho playing, compared to 51.9% without him.
- The Reds also have a higher percentage of shots at goal with him (17.3%) than without him (14.1%).
- No player has scored more goals from outside of the box than Coutinho (15) since he made his Premier League debut in February 2013.
- Only four players have created more scoring chances than Coutinho in this time - Mesut Ozil, Christian Eriksen, Eden Hazard and David Silva.
- Coutinho (34) is the highest-scoring Brazilian in the Premier League of all-time, ahead of Juninho (29) and Roberto Firmino (29).
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