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Lol he was worst cb in lyon..read





When Dejan Lovren gesticulates frenziedly at his Liverpool team-mates, he is desperately attempting to revert back into the commanding, dominant and elite centre-back at Southampton.

Dismally retrogressing into an erratic, undependable and panic-stricken defender, Lovren is recreating his Lyon ordeal at Liverpool.

Arriving at Lyon from Dinamo Zagreb as a prodigious defensive prospect in the 2010 January transfer window for ?9.4/?7.4 million, Lovren was designated to be a Croatian version of Edmilson, who once scored an overhead kick as a centre-back for Brazil against Costa Rica at the 2002 FIFA World Cup.


Lovren began his Lyon career as a utility player, starting at right-back in a 2-1 win over Paris Saint-Germain and at left-back in a 0-0 draw against Toulouse.

"My preferred position is in central defence, but I have no qualms [with Lyon] about playing on the right or the left," Lovren said, per Ligue 1's official website. "If I had to, I'd even play as a goalkeeper."

Lovren's initiation at Lyon was taxing as manager Claude Puel had doubts.

At one point, Cris, Jean-Alain Boumsong, Mathieu Bodmer and Jeremy Toulalan?a central midfielder?were Puel's preferred centre-backs over Lovren.

Playing a multifaceted role for Lyon also wore thin as Lovren started and finished eight Ligue 1 games on the bench during his first season.

"The first six months [at Lyon] were really, really difficult for me. I didn't speak the language [French] so I didn't understand anything [from Puel]," Lovren said, per Jim Lucas at Southampton's official website.

"[The French] journalists were killing me, asking why the club played millions for a player who didn't have enough experience."

A lack of experience did not hold back Miralem Pjanic?Lovren's team-mate at the time?scoring six times, registering 10 assists and appearing in 37 league games.

There were 11 players born in 1989 or later who played more than 2,000 minutes in the 2009-10 Ligue 1 season.

If you were good enough, age was not relevant?Lovren was barely Ligue 1 standard.

"Imagine being 20 [years old] and reading [harsh criticisms about you from the French media]," Lovren said, per Jim Lucas at Southampton's official website. "You start to think that is the truth."

But it was the truth because Lovren was unreliable.

Lovren did not speak French and was unable to communicate effectively with his teammates.
He gave away possession 27.7 percent of the time he attempted a pass, thus was ineffective in Lyon's build-up play.
He was a nonexistent entity from an attacking point of view as a full-back. Averaged 0.3 key passes per game (pass leading to scoring chance) and failed to score or create a goal in 683 minutes.
Incompetent?as opposed to inexperienced?was the prevailing adjective to describe Lovren.

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Liverpool centre-forward Mario Balotelli's catch phrase is "Why always me?"

Lovren spent his Lyon career thinking "Why always me?" every time he incurred another daft red card.

Clattering into then-Auxerre right attacking midfielder Dennis Oliech while booked, Lovren received two yellow cards in 22 minutes.

Leading 1-0, Auxerre were gifted a one-man advantage and scored three further goals to win 4-0 against Lyon.

"It's a big slap of course. A match to forget," Puel said, per AFP (h/t FIFA's official website). "The goal we conceded was stupid [and Lovren's] red card [was] stupid as well."


Post-Puel in a Remi Garde era, Lovren's inclination for red cards continued.

Despite being booked, Lovren hacked Lille centre-forward Nolan Roux from behind, who was dribbling away from goal.

Lyon spent the next 25 minutes (20 minutes plus five minutes of stoppage time) defending a 2-1 lead with 10 men against Lille.

Lovren half-heartedly accepted culpability.

"I agree with the second yellow card, but not the first," Lovren said, per Lyon's official website. "I'm not in the best form of my life and I'm very disappointed at being suspended."

In his final season at Lyon, Lovren's inability to retain standard positional discipline heavily factored into him being sent off three times in league play.

"I was thinking: 'Oh my God, what am I doing?'," Lovren said, per Paul Doyle at The Observer (h/t The Guardian). "[Lyon] didn't have the time to wait for me."

Lmaoo, so unachukua articles za Mirror, thats why mnaJudge players vibaya, mwangalie mchezaji na mjudge kwa uwezo wako binafsi, hao hao pundits wanasema Skrtel bado ana ubora wa kuchezea LFC.

Wakat yupo Lyon, LFC wanted to buy him for ?8m, Agger alivyogoma kwenda Barca deal ikafa..

Leo hii ukiambiwa Shawcross, Reid, aldelweireld etc ni bora zaid ya Skrtel utapinga, coz unasikiliza Pundits wa BBC, Mirror etc wanasemaje...


how can a player be shit kwenye league mbovu kama France, afu akaja soton na kuingia moja kwenye first team, na kucheza kwa kiwango cha hali ya juu, he forced a move kuja LFC, coz ni shabiki wa LFC kama sisi..

me leo akija mtu kunambia Firmino is shit, siwez kukubali, coz nishamuona akicheza kabla ya LFC, na ndo maana nilisimama tangu mwanzo kuhusu Markovic despite na Crticism alizokuwa anazipata, coz nilikuwa naujua uwezo wake..And what about Boateng? utasema alikuwa m-bovu at City??? well, look at him now..

lol, Lovren was shit at Lyon.. wembee, kama umeamua kufatilia mpira, jucommit moja kwa moja, usitumiame youtube stats au articles za kina Muddock kujudge players,

Anakuja Grujic, LFC, nenda kwenye Websites ya club yake, subscribe/lipia au tafuta Links imara ambazo zinaonyesha recorded full matches, umuangalie kwa dk90 zote kwa game 8-10..ukitoka hapo utaelewa kwann Klopp amemtaka na unaweza kuspot weakness zake..siyo unakaa kwenye youtube na kusoma articles tu za binadamu kama wewe..
 
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Lol..lovren alikua worse at lyon...na three red cards juu coz ya kutokua na good positioning.halaf unasema ana akil??? Lol...at southampton alikua na two dedicated defencive midfielders mbele yake...then fonte alikua solid na they had solid fullbacks....

Hahaha, you see unasoma artcles, i bet hujawahi kumuona Lovren akicheza na Jezi ya Lyon..

Huyo Matip hana Red Cards???

kupata Red cards ndo kunafanya DF awe m-bovu??

Fonte hajawah kuwa Solid CB bro..HAJAWAHI. kabebwa na Lovren, last seasona akabebwa na Alderweireld.

kiungo cha Man utd kinakuwa na Bastian/Carrick, na Morgan sometimes but back-line yao ni Imara, Arsenal kwa sasa DM wao ni Flamini, lakin Kos na Per wanafanya kaz yao, Man City wana Fernandnho na Delph/Yaya na bado backline yao inavuja..

Centre-backs wakiwa wabovu, MF haiwez kusaidia kwa chochote, defense huwa inaanza kutengenezwa kutokea kwenye MF..


There's a reason why Fonte yupo Soton mpaka leo, Lovren kamkuta na kamuacha, Alder kamkuta na kamuacha, na sasa Van Djik atamuacha pale pale..

hapo napo naanza kuhisi huwa unaawangalia kina Fonte wakicheza na LFC/City/Chelsea/Man utd/Arsenal/Everton

mfatiliaji mzuri wa EPL, hawez kusema Fonte ni SOLID CB, labda kama huelewi ukubwa wa neno SOLID pale unapoongelea CB na DM.
 
Agger kala red cards ngap Katika career yake LFC?? kwahyo hana akili?
 
Hahaha, you see unasoma artcles, i bet hujawahi kumuona Lovren akicheza na Jezi ya Lyon..

Huyo Matip hana Red Cards???

kupata Red cards ndo kunafanya DF awe m-bovu??

Fonte hajawah kuwa Solid CB bro..HAJAWAHI. kabebwa na Lovren, last seasona akabebwa na Alderweireld.

kiungo cha Man utd kinakuwa na Bastian/Carrick, na Morgan sometimes but back-line yao ni Imara, Arsenal kwa sasa DM wao ni Flamini, lakin Kos na Per wanafanya kaz yao, Man City wana Fernandnho na Delph/Yaya na bado backline yao inavuja..

Centre-backs wakiwa wabovu, MF haiwez kusaidia kwa chochote, defense huwa inaanza kutengenezwa kutokea kwenye MF..


There's a reason why Fonte yupo Soton mpaka leo, Lovren kamkuta na kamuacha, Alder kamkuta na kamuacha, na sasa Van Djik atamuacha pale pale..

hapo napo naanza kuhisi huwa unaawangalia kina Fonte wakicheza na LFC/City/Chelsea/Man utd/Arsenal/Everton

mfatiliaji mzuri wa EPL, hawez kusema Fonte ni SOLID CB, labda kama huelewi ukubwa wa neno SOLID pale unapoongelea CB na DM.

Vp fonte kabebwa na alderiwed??? Alderweirld katoka atletico lol....na fonte last season alikua in epl team of the year...patner wake alikua jamaa mbovu tu..
 
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Vp fonte kabebwa na alderiwed??? Alderweirld katoka atletico lol....na fonte last season alikua in epl team of the year...patner wake alikua jamaa mbovu tu..

Team of the year ya last season hakuwepo Aguero (league top scorer) wala Silva..unashangaa fonte kuwepo?

Last season, Patner wa Fonte alikuwa ni Alderweireld, ambaye alitokea on loan ATM, and incase you didnt know tulikalibia kumsign kutoka Ajax, akaenda ATM, he REJECTED us tulivyorudi mara pili wakat anakaribia kusign kwenda ATM (he was quoted saying "LFC didnt try enough for him and he felt like he was seen as a back up option)

And Again, unashangaa Alderwelred kutokea ATM as if ni team ndogo, Well ATM imekuwa ni Club bora kuliko LFC for the past 6-7 years, only Coutinho and a Fit Sturridge ndo wanaanza kwenye ile team, he was loaned kwenda Soton coz alikuwa anataka kucheza mpira, alikuwa anacheza position moja na Godin, so unategemea angecheza lini mbele ya Godin?? kaondoka kaenda Soton, baada ya muda Spurs came in for him, Spurs paid a lot of money for him, Soton walijaribu kum-bakisha but aligoma na kuondoka kwenda spurs (soton fans mpaka leo wanamwita snake)...again another bigger and rich club than Southampton Came in and signed Alder, akaondoka akamwacha fonte...pengo la Alder linaonekana kuliko hata la Morgan msimu huu kwa Soton..(kama unaingaliaga Soton lakin, manake naweza nkawa nasema hiv kumbe mwenzangu huangalii hata hiyo soton)..

Afu kitu kingine mzee, hum-rate Alder, lol, bro how can you not rate him??? taja CB bora watano sahiv katika EPL, huwez kumweka Alder nje..EPL team of the year ilivyotoka last season, critics wengi sana waliquestion uwepo wa fonte badala ya Alder (unakesha kusoma Articles lakin hivi vitu huvioni)

Na mwisho hapo, umeonesha hata last season partner wa fonte ulikuwa humjui hiyo kaulia ya *jamaa flan mbovu tu* inaonesha ubovu wako katika kufatilia mpira, kazi aliyoifanya last season Alder pale Soton, na bado hukumrecognize?? tunamzungumzia Toby Alderweireld bro.
 
Team of the year ya last season hakuwepo Aguero (league top scorer) wala Silva..unashangaa fonte kuwepo?

Last season, Patner wa Fonte alikuwa ni Alderweireld, ambaye alitokea on loan ATM, and incase you didnt know tulikalibia kumsign kutoka Ajax, akaenda ATM, he REJECTED us tulivyorudi mara pili wakat anakaribia kusign kwenda ATM (he was quoted saying "LFC didnt try enough for him and he felt like he was seen as a back up option)

And Again, unashangaa Alderwelred kutokea ATM as if ni team ndogo, Well ATM imekuwa ni Club bora kuliko LFC for the past 6-7 years, only Coutinho and a Fit Sturridge ndo wanaanza kwenye ile team, he was loaned kwenda Soton coz alikuwa anataka kucheza mpira, alikuwa anacheza position moja na Godin, so unategemea angecheza lini mbele ya Godin?? kaondoka kaenda Soton, baada ya muda Spurs came in for him, Spurs paid a lot of money for him, Soton walijaribu kum-bakisha but aligoma na kuondoka kwenda spurs (soton fans mpaka leo wanamwita snake)...again another bigger and rich club than Southampton Came in and signed Alder, akaondoka akamwacha fonte...pengo la Alder linaonekana kuliko hata la Morgan msimu huu kwa Soton..(kama unaingaliaga Soton lakin, manake naweza nkawa nasema hiv kumbe mwenzangu huangalii hata hiyo soton)..

Afu kitu kingine mzee, hum-rate Alder, lol, bro how can you not rate him??? taja CB bora watano sahiv katika EPL, huwez kumweka Alder nje..EPL team of the year ilivyotoka last season, critics wengi sana waliquestion uwepo wa fonte badala ya Alder (unakesha kusoma Articles lakin hivi vitu huvioni)

Na mwisho hapo, umeonesha hata last season partner wa fonte ulikuwa humjui hiyo kaulia ya *jamaa flan mbovu tu* inaonesha ubovu wako katika kufatilia mpira, kazi aliyoifanya last season Alder pale Soton, na bado hukumrecognize?? tunamzungumzia Toby Alderweireld bro.

Costa alikua na goals nying plus ana advantage ya kua in tittle winning team. .that gave him a nod ahead of aguero....


Fonte alikua nacheza na patner mbovu first half ya msim yule mjapan na alikua solid as ever...kusema alderweird ndo kamfany kua bora hadi aingie epl team of the season I cnt agree...coz fonte was great even before huyo alder kwenda pale which sikumbuk kumuona hata game moja...


Hamna post hata moja nimesema simrate alder...he has been among best in epl this season...
 
Costa alikua na goals nying plus ana advantage ya kua in tittle winning team. .that gave him a nod ahead of aguero....


Fonte alikua nacheza na patner mbovu first half ya msim yule mjapan na alikua solid as ever...kusema alderweird ndo kamfany kua bora hadi aingie epl team of the season I cnt agree...coz fonte was great even before huyo alder kwenda pale which sikumbuk kumuona hata game moja...


Hamna post hata moja nimesema simrate alder...he has been among best in epl this season...

lol, Partnership ya Southampton last season ilikuwa ni ipi bro?
 
lol, Partnership ya Southampton last season ilikuwa ni ipi bro?

Patner wa fonte alikua yoshida...
Na hadi Christmas soton walikua top of epl table..wakiwa na best defence...toby hakuepo
 
Huwa nakata tamaa ninaposkia we are still linked with average players like Matip,Grujic ,etc these are the kind of players who would take more than a season to gel,we now have to pay for "immediately impact" kind of players,Guys let us not be fools....timu yetu sasa hivi haina Goolkeeper,hatuna commanding CB, hatuna strong midfielders,na hatuna striker anayeendana na style tunayocheza,Klopp is a big name but he ll be struggling kama hataweza kutumia jina lake kufanya usajili wa kueleweka.
 
Patner wa fonte alikua yoshida...
Na hadi Christmas soton walikua top of epl table..wakiwa na best defence...toby hakuepo

Soton wamewahi kuwa Top of EPL table lini???? last season muda kama huu (XMASS) Soton walikuwa ni WATANO kwenye Epl Table, kesho yake tarehe 26 (BOXING DAY) Toby Alderweireld alifungia sotom wakat wanacheza na Crystal Palace, na hapo unaniambia Toby hakuwepo???? really?

Toby kacheza games 25+ na soton last season na game yake ya kwanza ilikuwa mwezi wa 9 mwaka ule (2014)..
 
Huwa nakata tamaa ninaposkia we are still linked with average players like Matip,Grujic ,etc these are the kind of players who would take more than a season to gel,we now have to pay for "immediately impact" kind of players,Guys let us not be fools....timu yetu sasa hivi haina Goolkeeper,hatuna commanding CB, hatuna strong midfielders,na hatuna striker anayeendana na style tunayocheza,Klopp is a big name but he ll be struggling kama hataweza kutumia jina lake kufanya usajili wa kueleweka.

Spot on bro..haya ndo huwa naongea kila siku, Klopp ana pulling power kubwa, and bado tunakuwa linked na Matip, kinda player ambaye hata BR angemsajili.
 
Soton wamewahi kuwa Top of EPL table lini???? last season muda kama huu (XMASS) Soton walikuwa ni WATANO kwenye Epl Table, kesho yake tarehe 26 (BOXING DAY) Toby Alderweireld alifungia sotom wakat wanacheza na Crystal Palace, na hapo unaniambia Toby hakuwepo???? really?

Toby kacheza games 25+ na soton last season na game yake ya kwanza ilikuwa mwezi wa 9 mwaka ule (2014)..

Wait am coming back here
 
Soton wamewahi kuwa Top of EPL table lini???? last season muda kama huu (XMASS) Soton walikuwa ni WATANO kwenye Epl Table, kesho yake tarehe 26 (BOXING DAY) Toby Alderweireld alifungia sotom wakat wanacheza na Crystal Palace, na hapo unaniambia Toby hakuwepo???? really?

Toby kacheza games 25+ na soton last season na game yake ya kwanza ilikuwa mwezi wa 9 mwaka ule (2014)..
Epl ina games 38...cup competition atleast 10 games...so roughly soton waliplay 40 games last season....I never saw toby anacheza...myb he was injured for most part I dnt know..why he played 25 games then?? How come mtu anachez game 25 msim halaf unasema alikua anambeba fonte..
 

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