Je, huu ni ukweli uliofichwa kwa miaka mingi?

[Hussein Massanza]

kumbe Kaini ni brother wako? Tubu

Yule ni brother kaka wetu sote sema inaonekana bro alizingua sana aisee!

 

[Sir Khan]

Yule ni brother kaka wetu sote sema inaonekana bro alizingua sana aisee!

 

[Kiranga]

Msisome Biblia tu, someni zaidi, someni vitabu vya kisomi vinavyoelezea Biblia zaidi.

Someni vitabu kama "Legends of The Jews" http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/loj/index.htm

Au "How To Read The Bible"


How to Read the Bible
A Guide to Scripture, Then and Now

READ AN EXCERPT

Scholars from different fields have joined forces to reexamine every aspect of the Hebrew Bible. Their research, carried out in universities and seminaries in Europe and America, has revolutionized our understanding of almost every chapter and verse. But have they killed the Bible in the process?

In How to Read the Bible, Harvard professor James Kugel leads the reader chapter by chapter through the “quiet revolution” of recent biblical scholarship, showing time and again how radically the interpretations of today’s researchers differ from what people have always thought. The story of Adam and Eve, it turns out, was not originally about the “Fall of Man,” but about the move from a primitive, hunter-gatherer society to a settled, agricultural one. As for the stories of Cain and Abel, Abraham and Sarah, and Jacob and Esau, these narratives were not, at their origin, about individual people at all but, rather, explanations of some feature of Israelite society as it existed centuries after these figures were said to have lived. Dinah was never raped — her story was created by an editor to solve a certain problem in Genesis. In the earliest version of the Exodus story, Moses probably did not divide the Red Sea in half; instead, the Egyptians perished in a storm at sea. Whatever the original Ten Commandments might have been, scholars are quite sure they were different from the ones we have today. What’s more, the people long supposed to have written various books of the Bible were not, in the current consensus, their real authors: David did not write the Psalms, Solomon did not write Proverbs or Ecclesiastes; indeed, there is scarcely a book in the Bible that is not the product of different, anonymous authors and editors working in different periods.

Such findings pose a serious problem for adherents of traditional, Bible-based faiths. Hiding from the discoveries of modern scholars seems dishonest, but accepting them means undermining much of the Bible’s reliability and authority as the word of God. What to do? In his search for a solution, Kugel leads the reader back to a group of ancient biblical interpreters who flourished at the end of the biblical period. Far from naïve, these interpreters consciously set out to depart from the original meaning of the Bible’s various stories, laws, and prophecies — and they, Kugel argues, hold the key to solving the dilemma of reading the Bible today.

How to Read the Bible is, quite simply, the best, most original book about the Bible in decades. It offers an unflinching, insider’s look at the work of today’s scholars, together with a sustained consideration of what the Bible was for most of its history — before the rise of modern scholarship. Readable, clear, often funny but deeply serious in its purpose, this is a book for Christians and Jews, believers and secularists alike. It offers nothing less than a whole new way of thinking about sacred Scripture.

 

[kinjekitile70]

Weka @ kufuatiwa na user name ya huyo mtu mfano @ k29 itageuka kuwa k29 basi utakuwa umemtag

@zito junior

 

[Sir Khan]

Yule ni brother kaka wetu sote sema inaonekana bro alizingua sana aisee!

ukiwa mbaya kila mtu anajifanya hakujui

 

[Sky Eclat]

Kuna topic moja mtu aliuliza, kwa mapokeo, tunaambiwa yule Cain mtotowa Adam, alipofukuzwa Eden, aliondokana kuoa mbalihuko.

Sasa kama Adam ndiye mtu wa kwanza, huko mbali alioa nani?

Wataalam wakawa na majibu mawili.

Moja wakasema alioa dada yake. Jibu hili linaelezea habari kwamba Adamna Hawa walikuwa na watoto tofauti.

Lakini halijitoshelezi, tunaambiwa Adamna Hawa na uzao wao walikuwa Eden, kama walikuwa na watoto wao kabla ya Cain kufukuzwa, hao wangekuwa Eden nao.

Hao watoto wao waliofika nje ya Eden bila kufukuzwa walikuwa nani? Wlaifikaje huko? Mbona habari zao za kufika huko hazikuandikwa?

Kukatolewa jibu la pili, la kisomi zaidi kuliko kimapokeo. Wanasosholojia wanasemakwamba waandishi wa Kiyahudiwameandika mambo kingano zaidi ya ukweli. Kwamba si ajabu kwa watu wa kabila moja, wanapoandika hadithi za mwanzo wa kabila lao, kuandika mwanzo wa kabila lao kama mwanzo wa watu wote, na si ajabu, katika enzi hizo, watu waliokaa pamoja waliwahesabu watu wengine wa mbali nao kwamba si watu kamili.

Kwa hivyo, kulikuwapo na watu kablaya Adam wanaishi sehemu nyingine mbaona uzao wa Adam, ila watu wa uzao wa Adam haukuwahesabu hawa watu kama watu kamili, na Cain alivyofukuzwa Eden akaenda kuoahuko.

Hili jibu la pili lilinifanya niseme kwamba, hizindizohabari ninazosema mara kwa mara hapa.

Kwamba, hivi vitabu ni mythologies, si fact, watu wengi wanavisoma kama fact.

Habari yenyewe imeandikwa kirefu zaidi hapa

https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/hebrew-bible/who-was-the-wife-of-cain/

Mungu ni mtakatifu mno, alimuumba Adamu kuwa chini yake kidogo na yeye alikuwa Mtakatifu. Zinaa Eve alifundishwa na nyoka na baada ya kumnajisi Eve akamshawishi Adamu afanye najisi.

Zinaa mpaka kesho ni dhambi inayomchefua Mungu kupita maelezo.
Adamu alipewa mwili wa milele ambao ulilaaniwa baada ya yeye kuunajisi. Adhabu yake ni kuwa mwili aliona kuwa nao utaonja mauti. Na kila mwanadamu ataonja mauti na kufufuliwa na mwili mpya wa milele. Sasa kama ni wa motoni utaenda motoni milele na wambinguni wataenda mbinguni milele.

 

[Kiranga]

Mungu ni mtakatifu mno, alimuumba Adamu kuwa chini yake kidogo na yeye alikuwa Mtakatifu. Zinaa Eve alifundishwa na nyoka na baada ya kumnajisi Eve akamshawishi Adamu afanye najisi.

Zinaa mpaka kesho ni dhambi inayomchefua Mungu kupita maelezo day

Wsomi wa Hebrew walioisoma Biblia katika lugha iliyoandikwa originally wanasema Adam hakuumbwa na Mungu, ni habari ya historia ya walivyoanza Wayahudi tu, lakini kulikuwa na watu wengine walikuapo sambamba na Adam na wengine hata walimtangulia, ila waliishi mbali na hapo Eden kwa hvyo hawa waliotoka kwa Aadam hawakuwahesabu kama watu.

Nimeweka hapa habari za kitabu cha James L. Kugel "How To Read The Bible: A Guide To Scriptures, Then And Now" as a starting point.

This guy was a Harvard Profesor of Hebrew and he wrote many acclaimed books, he says what I have been saying for years.

The Bible is not literal, it is not the word of God, and it has been edited so many times.

 

[Sky Eclat]

Wsomi wa Hebrew walioisoma Biblia katika lugha iliyoandikwa originally wanasema Adam hakuumbwa na Mungu, ni habari ya historia ya walivyoanza Wayahudi tu, lakini kulikuwa na watu wengine walikuapo sambamba na Adam na wengine hata walimtangulia, ila waliishi mbali na hapo Eden kwa hvyo hawa waliotoka kwa Aadam hawakuwahesabu kama watu.

Nimeweka hapa habari za kitabu cha James L. Kugel "How To Read The Bible: A Guide To Scriptures, Then And Now" as a starting point.

This guy was a Harvard Profesor of Hebrew and he wrote many acclaimed books, he says what I have been saying for years.

The Bible is not literal, it is not the word of God, and it has been edited so many times.

Ninaona bible lakini nimekuzwa na sala za RC ambazo nyingi ni mapokeo kutoka kwa mapadre na masister waliopewa maono. Kama Padre Pio, Mtakatifu Theresia aliyekuwa sister nae alikufa akiwa na umri wa miaka 24.
Sala za RC nyingi haziko kwenye bible

 

[Kipanga boy]

Nakuja

 

[zitto junior]

@zito junior

Ni zitto junior hapo sio @zito junior

 

[Nanaa jolie]

Najifunza mengi sana kupitia huu uzi yani akili yangu inaamka kwa kasi ya ajabu zitto junior thanx na wachangiaji wote

 

[Tz mbongo]

Mkuu lifecoded post yako imenifikirisha sana nafikiri ni wakati sahihi waafrika kuanza kutafuta ukweli nje ya hivi vitabu vya dini maana vina mkanganyiko kidogo kutoka kwenye uhalisia wa mambo. Ila ambacho sielewi ni kwanini sisi waafrica tulioletewa dini ndio tumeishika sana kuliko waliotuletea dini??? Na kipi kitatukomboa kutoka vifungo hivi??

Unataka kusema mkuu yani hata waarabu tumewazidi kwa kushika dini kuliko wao?

 

[Son of Gamba]

hapa hakuna uongo wa wazi?
◄ Matthew 16:28
"Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom."

Mkuu hao watu wapo, amini usiamini hao watu wapo hai mpaka leo. Wewe kutowajua haina maana kuwa hawapo. Nitakuja na uzi humu JF na kuelezea kwa kirefu hao watu ni akina nani na hapo ndipo mtatambua UWEZA wa MUNGU. NENO la MUNGU halisemi uongo hata siku moja!

Nikiweka huo "uzi" nitaku-tag mkuu.

 

[zitto junior]

Unataka kusema mkuu yani hata waarabu tumewazidi kwa kushika dini kuliko wao?

Naongelea dini kubwa kuliko zote duniani yaani Ukristo sisi Africa tumekuwa extremists sana kuliko hata hao wazungu.... Kiasi tunafunga mawazo yetu kwa biblia tu na sio reasoning zozote zile wakati hao wazungu wanastretch akili zao kufikiri hadi nje ya biblia na ndio maana wanafika mbali

Mfano hapa Tanzania kuna makanisa kibao utakuta kuna maombi maalum kwa Israel ila hutawahi kuta kuna maombi maalum kwa Dodoma au singida au zanzibar!! Sasa kama sio extremism ni nini hyo..... Hata makanisani tu wakiambiwa kuwa na viongozi wanawake utasikia wanadema biblia hairuhusu!!! Sijui kuvaa suruali au kudivorce itasikia biblia hairuhusu!!! Ila wazungu unakuta mchungaji ana kanisa kubwa kaachana na mke wake, anavaa bukta na bado mbinguni anaenda sasa sielewi kwanni sisi waafrika tunafunga akili zetu kuwaza nje ya maandiko... Mfano makanisani unakuta watu wanaaminishana kuwa tawala zote za kidunia zimewekwa na Mungu hata ya madikteta ndio maana wanashindwa kuwapinga na kuwakosoa!!! Sasa kwa reasoning hii tutafika kweli

Hapa ndio shida napoiona

 

[zitto junior]

Mkuu hao watu wapo, amini usiamini hao watu wapo hai mpaka leo. Wewe kutowajua haina maana kuwa hawapo. Nitakuja na uzi humu JF na kuelezea kwa kirefu hao watu ni akina nani na hapo ndipo mtatambua UWEZA wa MUNGU. NENO la MUNGU halisemi uongo hata siku moja!

Nikiweka huo "uzi" nitaku-tag mkuu.

Asee sikuwahi fahamu hili... Ukiupandisha uzi unishtue pia haya sio madini ya kukosa

 

[Son of Gamba]

hapa hakuna uongo?
BIBLE’S CONTRADICTIONS

1. Genesis chapter 1
God created adam and eve together

Genesis chapter 2
God created adam and then eve later

2. Genesis 2:7 and 2:19
God created a man and then the animals

Genesis 1:24-27
God created the animals first and then a man

3. Genesis 32:30 and numbers 14:14
Men have seen god

John 1:18
No man has seen god

4. Jeremiah 3:12
God does not keep anger forever

Jeremiah 17:4
God does keep anger forever

5. Mathew 1:20
Angel appeared to joseph

Luke 1:28
Angel appeared to mary

6. Mathew 8:5
Centurion came to jesus

Luke 7:3
Centurion sent his elders

7. Mathew 4:5-8
Satan took Jesus to temple and then mountain


Luke 4:5-9
Satan took Jesus to mountain and then temple

8. Mathew 20:29
Two blind men were healed on the road

Mark 10:46-47
One blind man was healed on the road

Hayo matukio yote uliyoyaeleza hapo juu yalitokea ingawa yaliandikwa kwa namna tofauti. Uongo ni kitu ambacho hakikutokea kabisa. Hivyo NENO la MUNGU halisemi uongo!

Mkuu unapaswa kuelewa kuwa NENO la MUNGU ni kama jiwe likwazalo, yeye atakaye jikwaa juu yake atavunjika vipande vipande na yule litakayemwangukia litamsaga teke teke! MATHAYO 21:42-44

Kuna watu wengi sana kama wewe sababu ya kuupenda sana "uovu" hawataki kuamini, wanatafuta visingizio na matokeo yake NENO la MUNGU linakuwa kikwazo kwao. Na wote watakaokwazika na NENO maana yake watavunjika vipande vipande na wengine kusagwa teketeke.

Tena unatakiwa kujua kuwa Biblia iliandikwa hivyo kwa makusudi kabisa ili wale waovu, wasioipenda KWELI ya MUNGU, wapate "kukwazika" vizuri, soma MATHAYO 13:10-15
Mwenye masikio na asikie!

 

[Kiranga]

Hayo matukio yote uliyoyaeleza hapo juu yalitokea ingawa yaliandikwa kwa namna tofauti. Uongo ni kitu ambacho hakikutokea kabisa. Hivyo NENO la MUNGU halisemi uongo!

Mkuu unapaswa kuelewa kuwa NENO la MUNGU ni kama jiwe likwazalo, yeye atakaye jikwaa juu yake atavunjika vipande vipande na yule litakayemwangukia litamsaga teke teke! MATHAYO 21:42-44

Kuna watu wengi sana kama wewe sababu ya kuupenda sana "uovu" hawataki kuamini, wanatafuta visingizio na matokeo yake NENO la MUNGU linakuwa kikwazo kwao. Na wote watakaokwazika na NENO maana yake watavunjika vipande vipande na wengine kusagwa teketeke.

Tena unatakiwa kujua kuwa Biblia iliandikwa hivyo kwa makusudi kabisa ili wale waovu, wasioipenda KWELI ya MUNGU, wapate "kukwazika" vizuri, soma MATHAYO 13:10-15
Mwenye masikio na asikie!

Thibitisha Mungu yupo.

 

[Kudo]

Wsomi wa Hebrew walioisoma Biblia katika lugha iliyoandikwa originally wanasema Adam hakuumbwa na Mungu, ni habari ya historia ya walivyoanza Wayahudi tu, lakini kulikuwa na watu wengine walikuapo sambamba na Adam na wengine hata walimtangulia, ila waliishi mbali na hapo Eden kwa hvyo hawa waliotoka kwa Aadam hawakuwahesabu kama watu.

Nimeweka hapa habari za kitabu cha James L. Kugel "How To Read The Bible: A Guide To Scriptures, Then And Now" as a starting point.

This guy was a Harvard Profesor of Hebrew and he wrote many acclaimed books, he says what I have been saying for years.

The Bible is not literal, it is not the word of God, and it has been edited so many times.

Kiranga huyo profesor unaemsoma yeye hizo habar kazitoa wapi na kwanini afundishe watu namna ya kusoma Bible?!
Na kwanini unamwamini sana kuliko wengine wanavyowaamini wanaowasoma?

Mfano leo uandike kitabu kuhusu mungu utaandika katika uelekeo gani kuhusu uwepo wa Mungu?

 

[Kudo]

Thibitisha Mungu yupo.

Leo naomba nikuulize ili wengine pia tujifunze kutoka kwako

Kama watu hawajakuthibitishia uwepo wa mungu,ina maana kwamba hoja yako itakuwa imepita kwamba mungu hayupo!!

Hivyo naomba kwa uchche tu nisadie kujua ulimwengu na viumbe wake walivyopatikana

 

[Kiranga]

Kiranga huyo profesor unaemsoma yeye hizo habar kazitoa wapi na kwanini afundishe watu namna ya kusoma Bible?!
Na kwanini unamwamini sana kuliko wengine wanavyowaamini wanaowasoma?

Mfano leo uandike kitabu kuhusu mungu utaandika katika uelekeo gani kuhusu uwepo wa Mungu?

Mimi siamini Mungu yupo.

Kuendelea mazungumzo ya Mungu kama yupo, unaweza kuthibitisha Mungu yupo?

Unajua kusoma Kiingereza?

Maswali yako mengine uliyouliza ninkama hujasoma nilichoweka hapa kwa sababu hujui kusima Kiingereza.

Maana yana majibu mazuri tu katika habari nikizoweka.

Unaniuliza kwa nini namsoma professor wa Hebrew aliyefundisha mpaka Harvard ambaye ni mtaalam wa mambo ya Biblia kuhusu kusoma Biblia?

Unasoma ninachoweka hapa au unauliza tu bila kusoma?

Unajua kusoma Kiingereza au Kiingereza ndiyo tatizo hata nikiweka maelezo hapa yanakuwa mgogoro kusoma?