US Election Coverage 2008

[Ogah]

Clinton hakusema kuwa King alisaidiwa na rais mweupe; alichosema ni kuwa ndoto ya King isingetimia kama kusingekuwa na rais aliyejua umuhimu wa ndoto ile. Message yake ilikuwa kuhusu umuhimu wa kuwa na rais anayejua mambo; hakuwa na maana ya kumdharau King.
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Prof.
Yes hakuwa anamdharau MLK however,...............
Upande mwingine wa shilingi kutokana na statement hiyo ni kuwa Obama is a "dreamer" and that si clever enough to be a President wa kuweza kutimiza anayo-dream

Yaani hile statement ilinifanya.........niwaangalie mara mbili mbili hawa Clintons.......are they Real?

 

[YNIM]

Prof.
Yes hakuwa anamdharau MLK however,...............
Upande mwingine wa shilingi kutokana na statement hiyo ni kuwa Obama is a "dreamer" and that si clever enough to be a President wa kuweza kutimiza anayo-dream

Yaani hile statement ilinifanya.........niwaangalie mara mbili mbili hawa Clintons.......are they Real?

thank you brother, very short, simple and clear explaination of a hugely complex and "cheap" shot from former president!!! he is from the south, therefore he should know better........that was coded/loaded statement full of racial overtones. The intended ones got the message loud and clear, ndio kwa maana kukawa na outcry. Truly, I can't explain it better than wht you did above!!! thank you.

 

[Game Theory]

A President Like My Father
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/opinion/27kennedy.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin



Senator Obama is running a dignified and honest campaign. He has spoken eloquently about the role of faith in his life, and opened a window into his character in two compelling books. And when it comes to judgment, Barack Obama made the right call on the most important issue of our time by opposing the war in Iraq from the beginning.

I want a president who understands that his responsibility is to articulate a vision and encourage others to achieve it; who holds himself, and those around him, to the highest ethical standards; who appeals to the hopes of those who still believe in the American Dream, and those around the world who still believe in the American ideal; and who can lift our spirits, and make us believe again that our country needs every one of us to get involved.

I have never had a president who inspired me the way people tell me that my father inspired them. But for the first time, I believe I have found the man who could be that president - not just for me, but for a new generation of Americans.

Caroline Kennedy is the author of "A Patriot's Handbook: Songs, Poems, Stories and Speeches Celebrating the Land We Love."

 

[BAK]

This guy knows how to give a great speech! That was a very good speech. YES WE BELIEVE AND YES WE CAN.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Mkuu FMES,
napenda kutokukubaliana nawe hapo juu, kwanza among whitemen Obama na Clinton wamepata support sawa. Generally Obama kapata 24 per ya whites, hiyo ni 1/4 ya votes which is very good ktk threeway election iliyoingizwa rangi na clintons!!. Good news nyingine ni kuwa, supporters wa Obama wapo palepale regardless of color. Watu hao ni, vijana wasomi na watu wa middle and upper middle class. Issue ipo kwenye gender kwani white women voted big for Billary. Overall jamaa ka-prove kwamba yupo electable anywhere in America. Politics za color zimechokwa na watu wa rangi zote!!!!!

Florida governor Charlie Crist ana-endorse McCain right now!!! LOL masikini Rudy "the rude" Giuliani....a testemony kwamba politics za vitisho na ku-capitalize kwa matukio angamizi nazo pia zimechokwa. Intriguing!!!

Hapana bana...kushinda primary ambayo hata Jesse alishinda sio alama kwamba hata uchaguzi mkuu atashinda. Jamaa ana wakati mgumu sana kushinda kusini ktk uchaguzi mkuu. Super Tuesday ndio takuwa D-day kwa sababu states ambazo zina Hispanics wengi na zenyewe zitakuwemo na wengi wao so far wako solidly behind SuperWoman

 

[Kichuguu]

constituency kubwa ya Obama ni vijana wa 18 to 15, na hao ndio anaotakiwa kuhakikisha kuwa wanapiga kura. Tatizo lake pale alipoonyesha kuacha race itumike katika mazingiora ya kusaidia ndipo alopovuruga. hiyo 25% ya whites aliyopta imetokana na grupu jilo la 18 to 15, na ndile limekuwa linampa ushindi sikub zote. Amefanya makosa ku-create mazingira yanayoweza kulifanya likavurugwa kimawazo na hii element ya race. Ndiyo maana unaona hotuba yake ilikuwa ya kufuta madhambi yote yatokanayo na race kwenye uchaguzi wa SC.

 

[BAK]

Super Tuesday labda itasaidia kuweka bayana nani ataibuka kidedea katika kinyang'anyiro cha mgombea wa Democratics. Vinginevyo itabidi tusubiri mpaka mkutano mkuu utakaofanyika Denver.

 

[DAR si LAMU]

SuperWoman

..nyani,huyu mama hafikii hata nusu ya uwezo wa iron lady [maggie]

 

[YNIM]

constituency kubwa ya Obama ni vijana wa 18 to 15, na hao ndio anaotakiwa kuhakikisha kuwa wanapiga kura. Tatizo lake pale alipoonyesha kuacha race itumike katika mazingiora ya kusaidia ndipo alopovuruga. hiyo 25% ya whites aliyopta imetokana na grupu jilo la 18 to 15, na ndile limekuwa linampa ushindi sikub zote. Amefanya makosa ku-create mazingira yanayoweza kulifanya likavurugwa kimawazo na hii element ya race. Ndiyo maana unaona hotuba yake ilikuwa ya kufuta madhambi yote yatokanayo na race kwenye uchaguzi wa SC.

race imeingizwa na clintons, kila mtu analijua hilo.......Ogah alijibu vizuri sana pale juu, hii ya blame Obama sijui hata imetokea wapi?

 

[YNIM]

Hapana bana...kushinda primary ambayo hata Jesse alishinda sio alama kwamba hata uchaguzi mkuu atashinda. Jamaa ana wakati mgumu sana kushinda kusini ktk uchaguzi mkuu. Super Tuesday ndio takuwa D-day kwa sababu states ambazo zina Hispanics wengi na zenyewe zitakuwemo na wengi wao so far wako solidly behind SuperWoman

Hata Bill Clinton kasema hivo hivo jana mchana, hizo statement za hata Jesse alishinda SC pia ni za KIBAGUZI!!!! Je huyo Jesse alishinda IOWA? alikuwa wa pili in NH? pia alipata majority ya delegates in NV? at anytime alionekana tishio la kuweza kushinda nomination? na mwisho alikuwa anapambana na mashine kama ya Clintons??? Acha bana........Obama sio Jesse!!!!.

Clintons wame-inject race ktk kinyang'anyiro hiki wakijua watashinda, instead strategy hiyo imefail in SC na pengine beyond!!! Clintons wanashindwa ndio maana wanatumia dirty tricks, FL ilikuwa haimo kutokana na kuvunja kwao rules za chama...........now "superwoman" wako anazungumzia florida, how come man!!? same juu ya michigan na caucuses kufanyika kwenye casinos, inashangaza kwamba rules ni pale wanaposhinda tu....kinyume chake watataka zivunjwe na kutungwa mpya!!.
Strategy yao ya ku-divide latino na blacks labda itafanikiwa kidogo in Cali na other western states, kwasababu latino wa huko ni mexicans and other mainland south americans(traditional wana issues na watu weusi)............lakini northeast latinos(puerto ricans na dominicans) in big cities/industrial states wata-vote Obama bila shaka kwasababu wao pia wanajihesababu kama blacks!!! ambayo ina maana sera za clintons za latino politics zinaweza kumtia matatani in NYC/ NY state, MA, NJ, IL, DE, PA, Wash DC, CT na RI................kama ulivyosema tusubiri tsunami tuesday, kwani maneno matupu hayapiki ubwabwa!!!! lakini Jesse sio Obama kaka, kwa hilo upo WRONG.

 

[William J. Malecela]

Obama also won because Clinton and her strategists, sensing defeat, apparently decided to trim their effort in the state.
“They basically pulled out of the state,” said veteran Charleston, S.C. Democrat Phil Noble, the president of South Carolina New Democrats, and an Obama supporter.

Clinton slackens effort
“They did no phones, they did no mail, any real extensive expenditures seemed to have stopped about two months ago,” Noble said. “I’m a Yellow Dog Democrat and I didn’t get any direct mail” from the Clinton campaign.“I got zero mail from the Clinton campaign in the last two weeks; I probably got six pieces from Obama and easily eight from Edwards,” said Greenville, S.C. Democratic activist Kevin Mertens, who supported Sen. Joe Biden, who pulled out of the race three weeks ago.

Clinton’s loss here puts even greater pressure on the New York senator to win in the massive round of Feb. 5 contests: California, New York, Colorado, New Jersey, Arizona, and other states. The imperative is for her to come up with a new set of reasons for voters to not put their trust in Obama. The line of arguments offered by Bill Clinton — that nominating a first-term senator would be “a roll of the dice”

 

[Bwana Mdogo]

Defining Obama as a black candidate by Clintons, rather than a candidate who happens to be black, with an inspiring message of hope and reconciliation between the races is so contemptuous. It is not some thing one expects from a Democrat, especially a former President and his candidate wife aspiring to be the president. Both should be ashamed of themselves. How do they face their young daughter or look in the mirror? Have they no shame?

The other day Hillary asked Obama where were you ??? perhaps she should tell us where she was when good old Bill was being sexually serviced by a young intern little older than her own daughter? Any CEO of any corporation for a similar conduct would have been summarily dismissed for such conduct.

 

[Rufiji]

Kichuguu,

Kwa nini unamlaumu Obama katika sula hili la race ? Obama alikuwa kwenye hali ngumu sana alishindwa kurespond on time kwanza kwa kuhofia mablack" wanugu" wangemuona sell out kwa kushindwa kumdefend Martin Luther King , vile vile Obama alikuwa bado hakubaliki sana katika jumuia ya mablack

Pili kwa mtu yeyote anayefikiri ya kuwa wakina Clinton hawakuingiza suala la Race katika hizi chaguzi hatakuwa NAIVE. Wale jamaa ni mapoliticians wa muda mrefu ambao wanajua kila kitu kuhusu dirty politics ndio maana republicans wanawaogopa " Clinton's Machine" . Obama hawezi kushinda super Tuesday kwa sababu Latino esp wale wa west hawawezi kumpigia kura mtu mweusi .

Mimi nadhani shughuli hiko Florida kwa republicans ...Nadhani wakina Clinton wanaombea Mitt Romney ashinde kusudi wambomoe na dirty politics kuhusu dini yake ya " Mormon " . Kama Mcain akishinda basi kutatokea mpasuko mkubwa sana kwenye chama cha Republican kwani huyu sio true conservative,huyu mtu akusupport Bush tax cut ,vile vile alisupport amnesty for illegals ...jee vipi kuhusu Mcain & Feingold legislation ilivyowaudhi conservatives...

 

[Masanja]

Mi nadhani tusubiri hiyo tuesday. But as I always said and I say it again, Obama akishindwa, atalaumiwa Clintons kwamba walimchezea dirty politics za race, akishinda akaenda mbele, whatever will be said watasema ni ubaguzi wa republicans (though they dont give a damn when it comes to such issues za race..remember Jesse Helms?).

What I see the whole issue ya race ni MEDIA imejaribu kui-inject kupunguza makali ya Clinton (kama alikuwa nayo anyway!)!! maana hata weusi wameanza kumback up fully Obama baada ya hii issue ya race kujitokeza. Clintons have their own probs, lakini kwa hili wanaonewa! they never injected race ni media na hawa campaign operatives wa pande zote. Labda mnisaidie (....this whole thing is a fairly tale..!!) how does this statement ralate to racism jamani? yet the man was talking about Iraq! Honestly speaking to fully appreciate information by today`s media it needs high level of intellectualism and ability to disect what you see and hear!

I stand to be corrected, lakini what Iam sure of, hapa wengi watamtumia Clinton kama scape goat kama Obama akishindwa! hata kwenye hii thread people will say so! Lets wait and see. Huyu mama ni flip flopper mkubwa sana and she knows what she wants and how to get it at any cost, but watu wanashindwa ku-counter arguments zake wanabakia kudeal na siasa za personal..tangu lini how you relate with your wife or girl friend determines your job evaluation by your boss? You cant judge Hillary by indiscretion za Bill! Its rediculous!

Kesho wazungu wakivote kama block, will people complain? mbona leo black people walivyo vote kama weusi solidly behind Obama sijaona media yoyote ina raise eye blows? huu unafiki utaisha lini wa hizi media? This whole isse has been overblown by the media na kwa sababu we just feed on what they tell us (irrespective of the merit)we just get carried away.

No wonder serikali za dunia ya nne ziko very strict on media regulation...

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Hata Bill Clinton kasema hivo hivo jana mchana, hizo statement za hata Jesse alishinda SC pia ni za KIBAGUZI!!!! Je huyo Jesse alishinda IOWA? alikuwa wa pili in NH? pia alipata majority ya delegates in NV? at anytime alionekana tishio la kuweza kushinda nomination? na mwisho alikuwa anapambana na mashine kama ya Clintons??? Acha bana........Obama sio Jesse!!!!.

Clintons wame-inject race ktk kinyang'anyiro hiki wakijua watashinda, instead strategy hiyo imefail in SC na pengine beyond!!! Clintons wanashindwa ndio maana wanatumia dirty tricks, FL ilikuwa haimo kutokana na kuvunja kwao rules za chama...........now "superwoman" wako anazungumzia florida, how come man!!? same juu ya michigan na caucuses kufanyika kwenye casinos, inashangaza kwamba rules ni pale wanaposhinda tu....kinyume chake watataka zivunjwe na kutungwa mpya!!.
Strategy yao ya ku-divide latino na blacks labda itafanikiwa kidogo in Cali na other western states, kwasababu latino wa huko ni mexicans and other mainland south americans(traditional wana issues na watu weusi)............lakini northeast latinos(puerto ricans na dominicans) in big cities/industrial states wata-vote Obama bila shaka kwasababu wao pia wanajihesababu kama blacks!!! ambayo ina maana sera za clintons za latino politics zinaweza kumtia matatani in NYC/ NY state, MA, NJ, IL, DE, PA, Wash DC, CT na RI................kama ulivyosema tusubiri tsunami tuesday, kwani maneno matupu hayapiki ubwabwa!!!! lakini Jesse sio Obama kaka, kwa hilo upo WRONG.

Race utake usitake ilikuwa issue ktk primary ya South Carolina. Asilimia 80 ya weusi wamempigia kura Obama. This is no accident my friend. Georgia na Alabama itakuwa hivyo hivyo...atashinda kwa sababu huku kuna weusi wengi ktk hizo democratic primaries ambao ndio ngome ya Democrats even though ktk general elections huwa wako useless kwa sababu zote hizi ni Red(redder) states.

Na kuhusu Latinos, nijuavyo mimi ingawa Dominicans na baadhi ya Boricuas wana rangi nyeusi mara nyingi huwa hawajihesabu kama weusi. Mimi najua kutokana na uzoefu wangu binafsi ukiwaita Dominicans weusi...wanakasirika. Nakubaliana na wewe kuwa ikija kwenye treatment (e.g. judicial system, racial profiling, n.k.) huwa hamna tofauti kati yao na weusi.Kwa hiyo usiwe na matumaini sana kuhusu hao Latinos wa North...wamegawanyika kiasi kwamba hawako reliable. Mpaka hivi sasa SuperWoman anaongoza ktk kura za maoni huko NY, NJ, na kwingine....tena huko kuna delegates kibao. NY na NJ hawezi kushindwa. No way. Halafu kuna Arizona na baba lao Cali....Still nadhani SuperWoman atapata nomination...a well earned one too.

 

[JokaKuu]

Kichuguu,Ogah,Nyani Ngabu,Game Theory,

..Hillary alikuwa anazungumzia activism vs legislation. Ndipo alipotoa mfano wa mchango wa Lyndon Johnson vs Martin Luther King.

..Alichosema Hillary ni kwamba MLK alikuwa na dream na inspiration, LBJ kwa kutumia executive powers aka-act on the dreams of MLK.

..Mimi nadhani UJANA na NAIVETE ya Obama ndiyo iliyomfanya aone kauli ya Hillary ni MATUSI kwa MLK.

..Kitendo cha LBJ kuunga mkono harakati za MLK kilisababisha weusi wa South wakitupe mkono chama Democrats. Hiyo ndiyo sababu kubwa leo hii Democrats hawawezi kushinda Uraisi wa USA.

..Anayesema RACE haikuwa ishu hapa anajidanganya.

..Obama amepata almost 80% ya weusi. sasa kwanini hakupata atleast 60% ya weupe?

..Black Americans siku zote hu-vote kwa kufuata race. Nitawakumbusha story ya Marion Barry mgombea aliyekamatwa na cocaine na bangi lakini bado weusi walimpa ushindi wa tsunami.

..Bill Clinton anafanya kazi ambayo media imegoma kufanya--kuuliza maswali magumu kuhusu Obama.

..TV anchors walikuwa wanahoji kama racism ilitumika kumpa ushindi Hillary NH. Sasa mbona leo hawaulizi kuhusu yaliyotokea SC?

..Mimi nadhani hili suala la race limekuwa mishandled na team Obama na watu wa media. Ku-insuniate kwamba the Clintons hawaheshimu black americans ni kutokuwa mkweli.

..NAMUUNGA MKONO OBAMA LAKINI I AM UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY HE HANDLED HIS CAMPAIGN IN SC.

 

[Masanja]

Joka Kuu well said above! Clintons are trying to ask some hard questions though they are rebelled racist. Yaani mimi huu ndio ugomvi wangu na weusi wenzangu! Yaani tumefika point mtu akiuliza anything to do with BO anaonekana either racist au hapendi maendeleo ya weusi wenzake! ni kama bongo tuu, ukiikosoa kidogo CCM unaonekana mpinzani! which is not true!

 

[YNIM]

NN,
Labda huko kwenu lakini huku kwetu "wanyora" toka San Juan na Santo Domingo ni proudly black!!!! NY na NJ haitakuwa a cake walk kwa huyo "superwoman" wako fake aliyelilia kura kule NH.
Race imeingizwa......hakuna ubishi!!! swali ni nani alieingiza??!!! sio Obama, nadhani unalijua hilo. Hivi sio wao waliosema mwanzo kwamba Obama is not black enuff! then wao tena baada ya kuona maji shingoni wanasema Obama is too black!!!........kwa mwendo huu sidhani kama kutakuwa na democrat in WH come January, 2009!!!
Clintons are animals, blood suckers animals.....regardless of whatever happens on tsunami tuesday, I'm so happy that, they have been xposed and we all know who they real are!!!.

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Mi nadhani tusubiri hiyo tuesday. But as I always said and I say it again, Obama akishindwa, atalaumiwa Clintons kwamba walimchezea dirty politics za race, akishinda akaenda mbele, whatever will be said watasema ni ubaguzi wa republicans (though they dont give a damn when it comes to such issues za race..remember Jesse Helms?).

What I see the whole issue ya race ni MEDIA imejaribu kui-inject kupunguza makali ya Clinton (kama alikuwa nayo anyway!)!! maana hata weusi wameanza kumback up fully Obama baada ya hii issue ya race kujitokeza. Clintons have their own probs, lakini kwa hili wanaonewa! they never injected race ni media na hawa campaign operatives wa pande zote. Labda mnisaidie (....this whole thing is a fairly tale..!!) how does this statement ralate to racism jamani? yet the man was talking about Iraq! Honestly speaking to fully appreciate information by today`s media it needs high level of intellectualism and ability to disect what you see and hear!

I stand to be corrected, lakini what Iam sure of, hapa wengi watamtumia Clinton kama scape goat kama Obama akishindwa! hata kwenye hii thread people will say so! Lets wait and see. Huyu mama ni flip flopper mkubwa sana and she knows what she wants and how to get it at any cost, but watu wanashindwa ku-counter arguments zake wanabakia kudeal na siasa za personal..tangu lini how you relate with your wife or girl friend determines your job evaluation by your boss? You cant judge Hillary by indiscretion za Bill! Its rediculous!

Kesho wazungu wakivote kama block, will people complain? mbona leo black people walivyo vote kama weusi solidly behind Obama sijaona media yoyote ina raise eye blows? huu unafiki utaisha lini wa hizi media? This whole isse has been overblown by the media na kwa sababu we just feed on what they tell us (irrespective of the merit)we just get carried away.

No wonder serikali za dunia ya nne ziko very strict on media regulation...

Right on my brother from another mother!! Yaani kila kitu kitakachomtokea Obama kina Clinton ndio watakuwa wakulaumiwa. Halafu hili swala la rangi na jinsia, kina Clinton hawakulianza wao. It was/ is an inevitability. Sasa kwa mfano jana, hiyo asilimia 80 ya weusi waliompigia kura Obama ina maana wa kulaumiwa hapo ni kina Clinton? Au kama asilimia hiyo hiyo ya weupe ingempigia kura Clinton...je kungekuwa na outrage dhidi ya Clinton? My answer is YES.

Yaani hivi visingizio vya race vimefikia mahala sasa mpaka vinatia kinyaa. Nakumbuka kuna wakati Senator Biden alisema kuwa Obama ni fresh and clean na yuko articulate....kukawa na bonge la hullabaloo...ooh inakuwakuwaje huyu senator anamwita Obama articulate..? inakuwakuwaje anamwita Obama fresh na clean...? Yaani siku hizi ukiwa mzungu hutakiwi hata kum-compliment mweusi kwa sababu itaonekana au kuchukuliwa kama vile unamsanifu. Au angalieni hii skendo ya meya wa Detroit...jamaa kadanganya tena mahakamani..sasa ushahidi umejitokeza kuwa alikuwa alidanyanganya...lakini watu bado wanalaumu ubaguzi...yaani inachekesha na kusononesha kwa wakati mmoja. Wakati mwingine nadhani watu weusi hapa huwa wanatumia kisingizio cha ubaguzi ku-get away na mambo mengi.

Halafu hivi ni mimi tu au na nyie mmeona hiki kitu...? Ma-GOP wanafurahi sana Mama Clinton akishindwa ka primary au caucus...na hawamsemi vibaya Obama...utawasikia wanasema Obama atakuwa formidable candidate kwa wao kumshinda...so cha kushangza hapa kama hiyo ni kweli....kwa nini sasa hawataki kummaliza mapema? There's something fishy there...

 

[Kitila Mkumbo]

a lot of bad wishers and haters here, very little objectivity from very few. Reading exhilaratingly and grudgingly too!