And they will be brought to justice one by one. There is no room for a terrorist to hide.
Osama bin Laden killed!
Osama bin Laden killed!
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I don't think that by looking one or two clips from Osama will vindicate him in anyway. We shouldn't forget that the same person has been posting incendiary remarks via clips incessant.
We need acumen before reaching conclusion because US and Osama had mutual interest ab initio. Having said that, I won't hesitate to say Osama stands on the wrong side of history because he extended indifferences beyond military to poor and innocent civilians of the world.
Osama intertwined his person interest with Islam to rally the Moslems something which has tainted the Islam religion the least to say. In the event of his demise no wonder millions of good Moslems are relieved.
There are many evidences out there to link his tenets with catastrophes around the global. Ghailan from Zanzibar is one of the testimonies.
As of today there thousands of orphans, disabled, widows, and widowers who are living with agony and anguish because of heinous act of this man. Osama's indifference with US or western cannot justify loss of lives iota.
Osama's modus operandi from remote areas could tell us more about him. He has inspired thousands of people to take their lives under the banner of martyr. Ironically he was not ready to die for the same. Is he not a libertine person!
Demonstrations are going on in some parts of Arab world, supporters are paying their tribute to hero who was behind massive killings around the world. Some vow to emulate his crime against humanity. If this is not a good evidence, what else could be presented!!!
We need acumen before reaching conclusion because US and Osama had mutual interest ab initio. Having said that, I won't hesitate to say Osama stands on the wrong side of history because he extended indifferences beyond military to poor and innocent civilians of the world.
Osama intertwined his person interest with Islam to rally the Moslems something which has tainted the Islam religion the least to say. In the event of his demise no wonder millions of good Moslems are relieved.
There are many evidences out there to link his tenets with catastrophes around the global. Ghailan from Zanzibar is one of the testimonies.
As of today there thousands of orphans, disabled, widows, and widowers who are living with agony and anguish because of heinous act of this man. Osama's indifference with US or western cannot justify loss of lives iota.
Osama's modus operandi from remote areas could tell us more about him. He has inspired thousands of people to take their lives under the banner of martyr. Ironically he was not ready to die for the same. Is he not a libertine person!
Demonstrations are going on in some parts of Arab world, supporters are paying their tribute to hero who was behind massive killings around the world. Some vow to emulate his crime against humanity. If this is not a good evidence, what else could be presented!!!
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KIONGOZI wa Kundi la Al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, aliishi katika ghorofa lake la mjini Abbottabad, Pakistani, kwa miaka sita kabla ya kuvamiwa na kuuawa na makachero wa Marekani, Mshauri wa Rais Barack Obama katika masuala ya ugaidi, amesema.
Mshauri huyo John Brennan, alisema habari za hivi karibuni zilisema kwa muda wote huo, bin Laden amekuwa mafichoni ndani nyumba hiyo kabla ya kugunduliwa na maofisa wa CIA,Agosti mwaka jana.
Jambo hilo limesababisha utata kuhusu sababu za makachero wa Pakistani, kutojua kwamba bin Laden alikuwa akiishi katika jengo hilo lililoko karibu kabisa na mji mkuu wa nchi hiyo, Islamabad.
Hata hivyo, Rais Asif Ali Zardari wa Pakistani, amekuwa akipuuza madai kwamba serikali yake, ilikuwa inajua kuwapo kwa muuasisi huyo wa mtando wa kigaidi, lakini haikuchukua hatua, lengo likiwa ni kumlinda.
Mapema katika mkutano wake na waandishi wa habari mjini Islamabad, Waziri wa Mambo ya Nje wa Pakistani, Salman Bashir, aliunga mkono hatua ya Marekani kuvamia nyumbani kwa bin Laden.
Kwa upande wake, Marc Grossman ambaye ni Mwakilishi Maalumu wa Marekani nchini Pakistani, alisema kifo cha bin Laden ni jitihada za pamoja za nchi za Marekani, Pakistani na Afghanistani.
Alisema bin Laden alikuwa adui wa wote na kwamba aliuwa maelfu ya raia wa Pakistani na Marekani.
Awali Brennan aliimbia Televisheni ya Mareakani
"Tunachojaribu kufuatilia sasa ni kujua mambo aliyokuwa akifanya katika siku za hivi kaburini. Tunataka kupata taarifa yoyote inayohusu mtandao wake ili tulitokomeza kundi hilo hatari duniani,"
Mshauri huyo John Brennan, alisema habari za hivi karibuni zilisema kwa muda wote huo, bin Laden amekuwa mafichoni ndani nyumba hiyo kabla ya kugunduliwa na maofisa wa CIA,Agosti mwaka jana.
Jambo hilo limesababisha utata kuhusu sababu za makachero wa Pakistani, kutojua kwamba bin Laden alikuwa akiishi katika jengo hilo lililoko karibu kabisa na mji mkuu wa nchi hiyo, Islamabad.
Hata hivyo, Rais Asif Ali Zardari wa Pakistani, amekuwa akipuuza madai kwamba serikali yake, ilikuwa inajua kuwapo kwa muuasisi huyo wa mtando wa kigaidi, lakini haikuchukua hatua, lengo likiwa ni kumlinda.
Mapema katika mkutano wake na waandishi wa habari mjini Islamabad, Waziri wa Mambo ya Nje wa Pakistani, Salman Bashir, aliunga mkono hatua ya Marekani kuvamia nyumbani kwa bin Laden.
Kwa upande wake, Marc Grossman ambaye ni Mwakilishi Maalumu wa Marekani nchini Pakistani, alisema kifo cha bin Laden ni jitihada za pamoja za nchi za Marekani, Pakistani na Afghanistani.
Alisema bin Laden alikuwa adui wa wote na kwamba aliuwa maelfu ya raia wa Pakistani na Marekani.
Awali Brennan aliimbia Televisheni ya Mareakani
"Tunachojaribu kufuatilia sasa ni kujua mambo aliyokuwa akifanya katika siku za hivi kaburini. Tunataka kupata taarifa yoyote inayohusu mtandao wake ili tulitokomeza kundi hilo hatari duniani,"
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ISLAMABA: Pakistani
MAFICHO ya Osama bin Laden katika mji wa Abbottabad nchini Pakistani, yamesababisha vikosi vya kijasusi vya majeshi ya nchi hiyo na ile jirani ya Afghanistani, kuanzisha mkakati wa kufanya uchunguzi katika majengo yote yenye kuta kubwa.
Sifa nyingine za majengo yanayochunguzwa ni wenyeji wake kuwa ni wageni au watu wasiokuwa na tabia ya kuzoeana na wenyeji.Hatua hiyo inafuatia kitendo cha bin Laden kuishi katika jengo lililopo karibu kabisa na kituo cha mafunzo ya kijeshi katika mji mdogo wa Abbottabad.
Jengo ambao kiongozi huyo wa mtandao wa kigaidi alikuwa anaishi, lilikuwa na ukuta wenye urefu kati ya futi 12 na 18 na milango mikuu miwili ya kuingilia.
Tayari polisi na vikosi vya kijasusi vya Pakistan,vimekiri kufanya uzembe wa kutojua kama jengo hilo lilikuwa maficho ya bin Laden.Kwa mujibu wa sheria za Pakistani, mgeni yeyote lazima atoe taarifa polisi kabla ya kuruhusiwa kupata sehemu ya malazi katika eneo lolote ikiwa ni pamoja na katika nyumba za kulala wageni.
Kuhusu kutofuatilia wageni katika nyumba aliyoishi bin Laden, polisi wa Pakistani walisema ni makosa ya kibanadamu na kwamba wamejifunza kutokana na makosa.
MAFICHO ya Osama bin Laden katika mji wa Abbottabad nchini Pakistani, yamesababisha vikosi vya kijasusi vya majeshi ya nchi hiyo na ile jirani ya Afghanistani, kuanzisha mkakati wa kufanya uchunguzi katika majengo yote yenye kuta kubwa.
Sifa nyingine za majengo yanayochunguzwa ni wenyeji wake kuwa ni wageni au watu wasiokuwa na tabia ya kuzoeana na wenyeji.Hatua hiyo inafuatia kitendo cha bin Laden kuishi katika jengo lililopo karibu kabisa na kituo cha mafunzo ya kijeshi katika mji mdogo wa Abbottabad.
Jengo ambao kiongozi huyo wa mtandao wa kigaidi alikuwa anaishi, lilikuwa na ukuta wenye urefu kati ya futi 12 na 18 na milango mikuu miwili ya kuingilia.
Tayari polisi na vikosi vya kijasusi vya Pakistan,vimekiri kufanya uzembe wa kutojua kama jengo hilo lilikuwa maficho ya bin Laden.Kwa mujibu wa sheria za Pakistani, mgeni yeyote lazima atoe taarifa polisi kabla ya kuruhusiwa kupata sehemu ya malazi katika eneo lolote ikiwa ni pamoja na katika nyumba za kulala wageni.
Kuhusu kutofuatilia wageni katika nyumba aliyoishi bin Laden, polisi wa Pakistani walisema ni makosa ya kibanadamu na kwamba wamejifunza kutokana na makosa.
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BAADHI ya wanasiasa nchini, wamesema kuuawa kwa kiongozi wa Kundi la Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, sio mwisho wa ugaidi duniani, huku wakisisitiza kuwa mauaji hayo huenda yakaibua vita mpya baina ya wafuasi wa kundi hilo na mataifa mbalimbali duniani.
Wamesema mtandao wa kundi hilo ni mpana na kwamba kuna uwezekano mkubwa wa wafuasi wake, kuwapo nchini na hasa iizingatiwa kuwa aliyehusika kulipua ubalozi wa Marekani nchini Ahmed Khalfan Ghailan, alikuwa ni Mzanzibari.
Wakizungumza na gazeti hili kwa nyakati tofauti, Mwenyekiti wa Chama cha NCCR-Mageuzi, James Mbatia, alisema hakukua na ulazima wa Marekani kumuua kiongozi huyo Al Qaeda na badala yake, wangemkamata na kumfikisha katika vyombo vya sheria.
Ugaidi ni kulipiza kisasi, Wamarekani walikuwa na uwezo wa kumkamata Osama na kumfikisha kwenye vyombo vya sheria, kama hilo lingekuwa gumu pia wangeweza kukaa naye meza moja na kumhoji ili kujua nini hasa alichokuwa akikitafuta kutokana na matendo aliyokuwa akiyafanya, alisema Mbatia.
Huku akitolea mfano wa kukamatwa na kunyongwa kwa Rais wa zamani wa Iraq, Saddam Hussein, Mbatia alisema licha ya tukio hilo, bado mauaji yanaendelea nchini Iraq.Wapo wanapambana na ugaidi, lakini leo hii raia wema wanazidi kupoteza maisha nchini Libya, sasa mauaji ya Libya yana tofauti gani na mauaji mengine duniani, alihoji Mbatia.
Naibu Katibu Mkuu wa Chama cha Wananchi (CUF), Julius Mtatiro, alisema mashambulizi yanayoendelea kufanywa nchini Libya na majeshi ya nchi za Jumuiya ya Nato, yatazidisha ugaidi duniani.
Dunia ingependa kuona Osama anafikishwa kortini, ugaidi hauwezi kwisha wakati unyanyasaji bado unaendelea duniani, wapo wanaowapiga wenzao kwa kudhani kuwa wana haki kumbe siyo, sasa hapo ndipo unapoanza uhasama, alisema Mtatiro.
Mwenyekiti wa Chama cha Democratic (DP), Mchungaji Christopher Mtikila, alisema Wamarekani wasidhani wamemaliza kazi kwa kumuua Osama.
Kwa taarifa nilizonazo Osama alikuwa amestaafu lakini ugaidi ulikuwa ukiendelea kama kawaida, hivyo basi hawa watu sidhani kama watakaa kimya lazima watafanya kitu tu ili kulipiza kisasi, alisema Mtikila
Wamesema mtandao wa kundi hilo ni mpana na kwamba kuna uwezekano mkubwa wa wafuasi wake, kuwapo nchini na hasa iizingatiwa kuwa aliyehusika kulipua ubalozi wa Marekani nchini Ahmed Khalfan Ghailan, alikuwa ni Mzanzibari.
Wakizungumza na gazeti hili kwa nyakati tofauti, Mwenyekiti wa Chama cha NCCR-Mageuzi, James Mbatia, alisema hakukua na ulazima wa Marekani kumuua kiongozi huyo Al Qaeda na badala yake, wangemkamata na kumfikisha katika vyombo vya sheria.
Ugaidi ni kulipiza kisasi, Wamarekani walikuwa na uwezo wa kumkamata Osama na kumfikisha kwenye vyombo vya sheria, kama hilo lingekuwa gumu pia wangeweza kukaa naye meza moja na kumhoji ili kujua nini hasa alichokuwa akikitafuta kutokana na matendo aliyokuwa akiyafanya, alisema Mbatia.
Huku akitolea mfano wa kukamatwa na kunyongwa kwa Rais wa zamani wa Iraq, Saddam Hussein, Mbatia alisema licha ya tukio hilo, bado mauaji yanaendelea nchini Iraq.Wapo wanapambana na ugaidi, lakini leo hii raia wema wanazidi kupoteza maisha nchini Libya, sasa mauaji ya Libya yana tofauti gani na mauaji mengine duniani, alihoji Mbatia.
Naibu Katibu Mkuu wa Chama cha Wananchi (CUF), Julius Mtatiro, alisema mashambulizi yanayoendelea kufanywa nchini Libya na majeshi ya nchi za Jumuiya ya Nato, yatazidisha ugaidi duniani.
Dunia ingependa kuona Osama anafikishwa kortini, ugaidi hauwezi kwisha wakati unyanyasaji bado unaendelea duniani, wapo wanaowapiga wenzao kwa kudhani kuwa wana haki kumbe siyo, sasa hapo ndipo unapoanza uhasama, alisema Mtatiro.
Mwenyekiti wa Chama cha Democratic (DP), Mchungaji Christopher Mtikila, alisema Wamarekani wasidhani wamemaliza kazi kwa kumuua Osama.
Kwa taarifa nilizonazo Osama alikuwa amestaafu lakini ugaidi ulikuwa ukiendelea kama kawaida, hivyo basi hawa watu sidhani kama watakaa kimya lazima watafanya kitu tu ili kulipiza kisasi, alisema Mtikila
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ISLAMABAD (Reuters) Al Qaeda confirmed on Friday that Osama bin Laden was dead, dispelling doubts by some Muslims the group's leader had really been killed by U.S. forces, and vowed to mount more attacks on the West.
The announcement by the Islamist militant organization, which promised to publish a taped message from bin Laden soon, appeared intended to show its adherents around the globe the group had survived as a functioning network.
In a statement online, it said the blood of bin Laden, shot to death by a U.S. commando team in a raid on Monday on his hide-out in a Pakistani town, "is more precious to us and to every Muslim than to be wasted in vain.
"It will remain, with permission from Allah the Almighty, a curse that hunts the Americans and their collaborators and chases them inside and outside their country."
Al Qaeda urged Pakistanis to rise up against their government to "cleanse" the country of what it called the shame brought on it by bin Laden's shooting and of the "filth of the Americans who spread corruption in it."
The statement also warned Americans not to harm bin Laden's corpse and to hand it and those of others killed to their families, although U.S. officials say bin Laden's body has been buried at sea and no others were taken from the compound.
Some in the Muslim world have been skeptical of bin Laden's death. One survey conducted in Pakistan this week by the British-based YouGov polling organization found that 66 percent of over 1,000 respondents did not think the person killed by U.S. Navy SEALs was bin Laden.
Before Friday prayers at a mosque in Paris, one man who declined to give his name said: "This whole story is a myth. They invented it to distract Americans from real problems over there, like the economy and gas prices."
But U.S. President Barack Obama continued to bask in public approval for the killing of bin Laden. He flew to a military base at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, on Friday to thank special forces involved in the raid.
"This has been an extraordinary week for our nation," Obama told a jubilant audience of troops. "The terrorist leader who struck our nation on September 11 will never threaten our nation again." But he warned that "this continues to be a very tough fight."
U.S.-PAKISTAN TENSIONS
Anger and suspicion between Washington and Islamabad over the raid in Abbottabad, 30 miles from the Pakistani capital, showed no sign of abating.
A U.S. drone killed 17 suspected militants in northwest Pakistan, despite warnings from the Pakistani military against the mounting of attacks within its borders.
About 1,500 Islamists rallied in the southwestern city of Quetta to vow revenge for bin Laden's death and there were small protests elsewhere. Afghan Taliban and Islamist Indonesian youths made similar threats.
A Taliban spokesman said the group "believes the martyrdom of Sheikh Osama bin Laden will give a new impetus to the current jihad against the invaders." Bin Laden lived for years in Afghanistan and is thought to have plotted the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States from there.
One of bin Laden's wives, Amal Ahmed Abdulfattah, told Pakistani interrogators the al Qaeda leader had been living for five years in the compound where he was killed, a Pakistani security official told Reuters.
The disclosure appeared sure to heighten U.S. suspicions that Pakistani authorities had been either grossly incompetent or playing a double game in the hunt for bin Laden and the two countries' supposed partnership against violent Islamists.
Pakistani security forces took 15 or 16 people into custody from the Abbottabad compound after U.S. forces removed bin Laden's body, said the security official. They included bin Laden's three wives and several children.
In Washington, a U.S. official said U.S. intelligence had established on-the-ground surveillance in Abbottabad in advance of the raid.
U.S. officials also said among materials found at bin Laden's hide-out was evidence indicating al Qaeda at one point considered attacking the U.S. rail system on the 10th anniversary of the September 11 attacks later this year.
Officials said evidence analyzed so far indicated bin Laden was still involved in directing al Qaeda's activities, even though he had largely avoided the public spotlight for years.
The fact that bin Laden was found in a garrison town -- his compound was not far from a military academy -- has embarrassed Pakistan and the covert raid has angered its military.
Pressure is building in the U.S. Congress to suspend or at least review U.S. aid to Pakistan.
VIDEO FOOTAGE
The Pakistan army, for its part, threatened on Thursday to halt counterterrorism cooperation with the United States if it conducted any more similar raids.
It was unclear if such attacks included drone strikes the U.S. military conducts regularly against militants along Pakistan's border with Afghanistan.
Pakistani security officials have charged that U.S. troops, after landing by helicopter, shot the unarmed al Qaeda leader in cold blood rather than in a firefight, as U.S. officials first suggested.
Amid differing accounts this week of how much hostile fire the SEALs encountered in the compound, one Pakistani security official said on Friday that U.S. forces should release video footage he said they "must have" of the operation.
U.N. human rights investigators called on the United States to disclose the full facts "to allow an assessment in terms of international human rights law standards.
The Pakistani military also said on Thursday it had decided to reduce the U.S. military presence in the country.
In Washington, Pentagon spokesman Colonel David Lapan said the Defense Department had not received notice from Islamabad about any decision to change the size of the U.S. military contingent in Pakistan. He said there were a little under 300 U.S. military personnel in Pakistan, many of them trainers.
U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the relationship was "complex" but pointed to Pakistan's effort against the Taliban and al Qaeda in its own tribal areas and the use of its territory as a U.S. supply route.
"At the same time, there's no question they hedge their bets," said Gates, fielding questions from service members at an Air Force base in North Carolina. "Their view is that we have abandoned them four times in the last 45 years. And they're not sure we're going to stay in the region."
"So we just have to keep working at it, on both sides," he added.
The announcement by the Islamist militant organization, which promised to publish a taped message from bin Laden soon, appeared intended to show its adherents around the globe the group had survived as a functioning network.
In a statement online, it said the blood of bin Laden, shot to death by a U.S. commando team in a raid on Monday on his hide-out in a Pakistani town, "is more precious to us and to every Muslim than to be wasted in vain.
"It will remain, with permission from Allah the Almighty, a curse that hunts the Americans and their collaborators and chases them inside and outside their country."
Al Qaeda urged Pakistanis to rise up against their government to "cleanse" the country of what it called the shame brought on it by bin Laden's shooting and of the "filth of the Americans who spread corruption in it."
The statement also warned Americans not to harm bin Laden's corpse and to hand it and those of others killed to their families, although U.S. officials say bin Laden's body has been buried at sea and no others were taken from the compound.
Some in the Muslim world have been skeptical of bin Laden's death. One survey conducted in Pakistan this week by the British-based YouGov polling organization found that 66 percent of over 1,000 respondents did not think the person killed by U.S. Navy SEALs was bin Laden.
Before Friday prayers at a mosque in Paris, one man who declined to give his name said: "This whole story is a myth. They invented it to distract Americans from real problems over there, like the economy and gas prices."
But U.S. President Barack Obama continued to bask in public approval for the killing of bin Laden. He flew to a military base at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, on Friday to thank special forces involved in the raid.
"This has been an extraordinary week for our nation," Obama told a jubilant audience of troops. "The terrorist leader who struck our nation on September 11 will never threaten our nation again." But he warned that "this continues to be a very tough fight."
U.S.-PAKISTAN TENSIONS
Anger and suspicion between Washington and Islamabad over the raid in Abbottabad, 30 miles from the Pakistani capital, showed no sign of abating.
A U.S. drone killed 17 suspected militants in northwest Pakistan, despite warnings from the Pakistani military against the mounting of attacks within its borders.
About 1,500 Islamists rallied in the southwestern city of Quetta to vow revenge for bin Laden's death and there were small protests elsewhere. Afghan Taliban and Islamist Indonesian youths made similar threats.
A Taliban spokesman said the group "believes the martyrdom of Sheikh Osama bin Laden will give a new impetus to the current jihad against the invaders." Bin Laden lived for years in Afghanistan and is thought to have plotted the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States from there.
One of bin Laden's wives, Amal Ahmed Abdulfattah, told Pakistani interrogators the al Qaeda leader had been living for five years in the compound where he was killed, a Pakistani security official told Reuters.
The disclosure appeared sure to heighten U.S. suspicions that Pakistani authorities had been either grossly incompetent or playing a double game in the hunt for bin Laden and the two countries' supposed partnership against violent Islamists.
Pakistani security forces took 15 or 16 people into custody from the Abbottabad compound after U.S. forces removed bin Laden's body, said the security official. They included bin Laden's three wives and several children.
In Washington, a U.S. official said U.S. intelligence had established on-the-ground surveillance in Abbottabad in advance of the raid.
U.S. officials also said among materials found at bin Laden's hide-out was evidence indicating al Qaeda at one point considered attacking the U.S. rail system on the 10th anniversary of the September 11 attacks later this year.
Officials said evidence analyzed so far indicated bin Laden was still involved in directing al Qaeda's activities, even though he had largely avoided the public spotlight for years.
The fact that bin Laden was found in a garrison town -- his compound was not far from a military academy -- has embarrassed Pakistan and the covert raid has angered its military.
Pressure is building in the U.S. Congress to suspend or at least review U.S. aid to Pakistan.
VIDEO FOOTAGE
The Pakistan army, for its part, threatened on Thursday to halt counterterrorism cooperation with the United States if it conducted any more similar raids.
It was unclear if such attacks included drone strikes the U.S. military conducts regularly against militants along Pakistan's border with Afghanistan.
Pakistani security officials have charged that U.S. troops, after landing by helicopter, shot the unarmed al Qaeda leader in cold blood rather than in a firefight, as U.S. officials first suggested.
Amid differing accounts this week of how much hostile fire the SEALs encountered in the compound, one Pakistani security official said on Friday that U.S. forces should release video footage he said they "must have" of the operation.
U.N. human rights investigators called on the United States to disclose the full facts "to allow an assessment in terms of international human rights law standards.
The Pakistani military also said on Thursday it had decided to reduce the U.S. military presence in the country.
In Washington, Pentagon spokesman Colonel David Lapan said the Defense Department had not received notice from Islamabad about any decision to change the size of the U.S. military contingent in Pakistan. He said there were a little under 300 U.S. military personnel in Pakistan, many of them trainers.
U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said the relationship was "complex" but pointed to Pakistan's effort against the Taliban and al Qaeda in its own tribal areas and the use of its territory as a U.S. supply route.
"At the same time, there's no question they hedge their bets," said Gates, fielding questions from service members at an Air Force base in North Carolina. "Their view is that we have abandoned them four times in the last 45 years. And they're not sure we're going to stay in the region."
"So we just have to keep working at it, on both sides," he added.
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Wabongo bana oooh Osama hajauawa, wabongo tubajifanya tunajua saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaana!!!
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Hamna kitu hapo!.
Kuhusu majengo yenye kuta nene wenyeji wanasema ni kawaida ya ujenzi eneo hilo kwa wamiliki wenye uwezo ili kujikinga na baridi na kuhusu watu wasiozoeana na wenzao mbona wengine waliozungumzia nyumba hiyo wamesema walikuwa wakishiriki kwenye mazishi.Mwenye taarifa zaidi ni mzee Mohammed Qassim na tayari keshafichwa na ISI.
Wewe wacha usingizi.Ile nyumba ilikuwa ni gereza la Pakistan na Marekan kwa malengo yao maovu.
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tatizo uwezo wa ku reason ni mdogo, hivi walizani kama Osoma anavopenda sifa, angekua hai asingejionesha hata kwa kutuma tape aljazira??? tumezoea majungu ndo mana magazeti ya udaku yalitumia huu udhaifu kuandika umbea na wameuza kweli wiki hii.
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Watanzania ndivyo tulivyo. Maneno meeengi. Tunajidai tunajua sana. Kuanzia siasa, soka, elimu, afya n.k ni siasa tu. Ah, haya bwana ngoja tusubirie tukio jingine tuingie kwenye ubishi tena.
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Cha ajabu pale Pakistani mtaa wa jirani wanakubali kafa na kila siku wanazunguka pale alikofia na kuona kila kitu,huku bongo mtu hata BBC haijuhi maana yake nini lakini utamwona eti anaanzisha ubishi
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hata hawa walipokufa iliwachukua mda watu kuamini,fuatilia kifo cha P.Lumumba,2pac,B.Lee Sasa leo wako wapi?lakini sioni ajabu maana dawa ya Mwafrika sharti aguse
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Sababu ya kujifanya TOMASO
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Ulimbukeni tu.............waislamu wanaona km osama ni mungu vile hawezi kuuawa........kvipi?
3D.
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Ubishi mpya.
Dio
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kijana mbona haueleweki mwisho wa Us kivipi?
Mbona unachangia kitu then unakiacha kinaelea,?
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