Manchester United (Red Devils) | Special Thread

[Mndengereko]

Never say never

hata kama kujidanganya huku kutakuwa kumezidi.penye ukweli tuongee tu hata mabosi wa utd wanlijua hilo thats y wameiandalia timu matches za asia kipindi cha uefa

 

[Belo]

poleni sana.. majirani..

Tumekusaidia kwenye mbio za ubingwa

 

[Mndengereko]

Duh, huyu jamaa!! hata nikifanya nini najua hatanisikia, ngoja nisave tu matusi yangu:A S angry::A S angry::A S angry::A S angry::A S angry::A S angry::A S angry::A S angry:

mkuu jarbu kumtumia kwenye mail hii inaweza ikawa ya kwake david moyes@manutd.com

 

[Nemesis]

 

[Bantu Lady]

Hii timu siipendi kutoka moyoni, ila poleni sana.
Mwaka wa majanga huu.

 

[The Magnificent]

asavali! Athante Toure. Vichapo vinaendelea! Tutaheshimiana tu.!

 

[Mndengereko]

Sio mbaya sana sasa zile habari za moyes out zitaanza kurudi tena maana alishajiona amechukua kombe tayari,

 

[thedon]

I have to admit that it was incredibly naïve of me to even dream that we were going to get a result tonight. It's fine to lose but at least do so while you've put in a fight. No blame on Moyes tonight. The poor guy did his best. He had a strong line-up with one mistake in it (Cleverley), he recognised the mistake and tried to fix it early (brought in Kagawa at the half). He made more changes earlier than he normally does. The poor guy did all you would want him to do to try to win the game. Unfortunately for him it just seems that the players don't respond to him. You have to wonder had Fergie been in charge and made the same moves in the course of this game, if he would have been able to get some sort of a response? Probably yes.


At Everton Moyes had the trust of those players he got them to respond to him. No wonder he seemed to be able to get them to surprise teams once in a while (case in point United's opening game of the last season) but with United he just doesn't have that psychological hold over the players. Had this been Fergie you would have seen Chicharito put more into the game than he did tonight. But he didn't and it stems from players just not feeling the support from the manager. Under Fergie the players felt he had their back and they were ready to die on the pitch for him in return, the same can be said of Mourinho. Now it's not all Moyes' fault that he does not have that rapport with the players because the players have a role to play in this as well and but at this stage into the season you would have expect the manager to have started gaining some of that respect from his players.


Moyes can get that respect but it would mean getting rid of over half of the team and bring new players that would then be there feeling that they are there because of Moyes and thus owe him performances on the pitch. That is why there is some merit into the argument that Moyes needs more time to get his own players in and then we can see what he is capable of, but that's hard to completely agree with based on the tactical ability he has shown.


There are situations that were just never meant to be and they will just not work. No need to be stubborn and as result put the team in a worse situation just because of sentiment. United needs to cut their loses and find another solution. That is by no means all due to Moyes being a poor manager, just a combination of many things and the big one being that it's just not a good fit from any angle you look at it.

That's my rant about that, now let me go cry myself to sleep!

 

[thedon]

Damning reality!

 

[Mndengereko]

Moyes anasema kamtoa cleverley kwa sababu alikuwamajeruhi ila to be honest sidhani kama aliumia nahisi ni kwa sababu alikuwa mbovu sasa hii nidhamu ya uoga ya kutaka kuwaplease wachezaji ya kazi gani kwanini usiwe na msimao kwenye maamuzi unayoyafanya ???

 

[Leak]

MAN U KAMA SIMBA TUU bADO KUNG'OA VITI.

 

[thedon]

Moyes anasema kamtoa cleverley kwa sababu alikuwamajeruhi ila to be honest sidhani kama aliumia nahisi ni kwa sababu alikuwa mbovu sasa hii nidhamu ya uoga ya kutaka kuwaplease wachezaji ya kazi gani kwanini usiwe na msimao kwenye maamuzi unayoyafanya ???

Kwa hili naona amefanya sawa. Hata SAF alikuwa anafanyaga hivyo. Cleverley yuko kwenye stage ya make it or break it kwenye career yake, and he is suffering from low confidence levels. Angesema kuwa kamtoa kwa sababu ni mbovu media ingemdadavua vibaya mno na possibly career yake inaweza kufia hapo. Hata kama hana future at United ni muhimu kocha kufikiria future ya mchezaji hata kama atakuwa kwenye timu nyingine. Nimemrespect sana Moyes kwa hili la kumkingia dogo kifua imeonyesha anamjali kwa ujumla ukiondoa situation yake ya United kwa sasa.

 

[ndetichia]

kocha wetu mpendwa leo moyes kavunja rekodi nyingine kufukungwa consecutive derby matches na man city 3 mfululizo na kupoteza mechi kumi katika msimu mmoja.mara ya mwisho ilikuwa mwaka 42

na historia zinakuja..

 

[RRONDO]

ukiangalia hizo statistics unaweza kufikiri game ilikuwa 50/50...!!!in fact THERE WAS A HUGE GULF IN CLASS......kwa kweli man city wametuzidi kila kitu namuonea huruma MOYES coz he has no clue!!!

 

[Ubumuntu]

#Gutted

Just saw the highlights.

I have also seen highlights from the Bayern's game, 990+ accurates passes out of 1078 from them!! #Scary

But, I have already surrendered this season. So, it isn't hurting that much to lose the game. I have almost gotten used to that.

Feel sorry for loserfools and chelskis who thought United could do a favour for them. Now the title is City's to lose.

I also feel sorry for the Gooners. They need to beat Everton away to be sure of a top four finish.

I am getting ready for the next seasons. With 3 or 4 players coming, United will get back to their best.

#GGMU

 

[Mndengereko]

I have to admit that it was incredibly naïve of me to even dream that we were going to get a result tonight. It's fine to lose but at least do so while you've put in a fight. No blame on Moyes tonight. The poor guy did his best. He had a strong line-up with one mistake in it (Cleverley), he recognised the mistake and tried to fix it early (brought in Kagawa at the half). He made more changes earlier than he normally does. The poor guy did all you would want him to do to try to win the game. Unfortunately for him it just seems that the players don't respond to him. You have to wonder had Fergie been in charge and made the same moves in the course of this game, if he would have been able to get some sort of a response? Probably yes.


At Everton Moyes had the trust of those players he got them to respond to him. No wonder he seemed to be able to get them to surprise teams once in a while (case in point United's opening game of the last season) but with United he just doesn't have that psychological hold over the players. Had this been Fergie you would have seen Chicharito put more into the game than he did tonight. But he didn't and it stems from players just not feeling the support from the manager. Under Fergie the players felt he had their back and they were ready to die on the pitch for him in return, the same can be said of Mourinho. Now it's not all Moyes' fault that he does not have that rapport with the players because the players have a role to play in this as well and but at this stage into the season you would have expect the manager to have started gaining some of that respect from his players.


Moyes can get that respect but it would mean getting rid of over half of the team and bring new players that would then be there feeling that they are there because of Moyes and thus owe him performances on the pitch. That is why there is some merit into the argument that Moyes needs more time to get his own players in and then we can see what he is capable of, but that's hard to completely agree with based on the tactical ability he has shown.


There are situations that were just never meant to be and they will just not work. No need to be stubborn and as result put the team in a worse situation just because of sentiment. United needs to cut their loses and find another solution. That is by no means all due to Moyes being a poor manager, just a combination of many things and the big one being that it's just not a good fit from any angle you look at it.

That's my rant about that, now let me go cry myself to sleep!

Dont give credit moyes for substuting cleverley for kagawa he just make himself clear that the only reason he made change its because cleverley was injured so the sub was not tactical one

 

[Mndengereko]

Kwa hili naona amefanya sawa. Hata SAF alikuwa anafanyaga hivyo. Cleverley yuko kwenye stage ya make it or break it kwenye career yake, and he is suffering from low confidence levels. Angesema kuwa kamtoa kwa sababu ni mbovu media ingemdadavua vibaya mno na possibly career yake inaweza kufia hapo. Hata kama hana future at United ni muhimu kocha kufikiria future ya mchezaji hata kama atakuwa kwenye timu nyingine. Nimemrespect sana Moyes kwa hili la kumkingia dogo kifua imeonyesha anamjali kwa ujumla ukiondoa situation yake ya United kwa sasa.

mhh huku kutaka kuplease wachezaji ndo kunakomcost hapahitaji mtu kuwa na degree kujua kama dogo alichemka.sometimes we have to be honest to ourselves

 

[Mndengereko]

Nilikuwa nafuatilia uchambuzi wa skysports wanasema kwamba the only reason ambayo klinsman na van gaal waliokuwa makocha wa zamani wa bayern munich waliondoka bayer ni kwa sababu walikuwa wanaona timu haiendi kuwa katika level wanayoitka(superior/dominant) not to mention bundesliga champion alizoshinda so so wanaona kwamba kama moyes ataendelea kuwa kocha basi inaweza ikawa ni mwanzo wa mwisho wa era ya man u,so hapa kwa kuconclude ni kwamba kama moyes ataachwa mpk msimu ujao kuwa kocha wa man u basi litakuwa ni kosa kubwa sana viongozi wa man u watalokuwa wamelifanya.otherwise abaki mpk mwisho wa msimu then atimuliwe kwa gharama yoyote tumechoka fake excuses kila siku na kuahidi tutajijitahidi kucheza mpira mzuri na kupata matokeo amazuri

 

[EMT]

Tonight Paul Scholes kasema bila kumununya maneno.

Ferdinand ni wakati wa kustaafu.

Wachezaji wawili alionunua Moyes siyo Man Utd type of players.

Man Utd inasifika kwa kuwa na pace but these players have no pace at all.

He was critical of the current man utd kama Roy Keane.

 

[EMT]

Halafu huyu Man Utd wakifanya mchezo na the Chosen One ataifanya Old Trafford kuwa sehemu ya makumbusho.

Old Trafford may end up becoming an historical place to visit.