Liverpool FC (The Reds) | Special Thread

Liverpool FC (The Reds) | Special Thread

choza choza said:
Hivi FSG hawawezi kujaribu kupeleka mtonyo kwa westham kumnasa declan rice, ili awe mbadala wa muingereza mwenzie Henderson
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Hawawezi ndio maana wameweka timu sokoni.

Liverpool ili irudi kwenye makali inahitaji 5-6 quality players wakiwemo hao kina Rice, Belligham n.k mshahara plus bei ni ngumu sana kwao kutokana na sera yao ya kibiashara (sell to buy).

Kwa pale lfc mauzo ili yafikie kununua quality players kwa sasa si chini ya £200M ili wao waongeze kiduchu. Ishu ya mshahara kipengele kingine.

Hawawezi kufanya biashara hii. Keita, Ox na Milner hawa ni free agent end of the season…
 
choza choza said:
Hivi FSG hawawezi kujaribu kupeleka mtonyo kwa westham kumnasa declan rice, ili awe mbadala wa muingereza mwenzie Henderson
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😀😀😀😀Kapteni wetu alisaini mkataba mpaka June 2025 unadhani anadoka soon hapana huyu tunae na akiwa mzima ni starter 1st 11.

Klopp kawapa hawa ma senior players kiburi fulani cha umiliki wa namba.

YNWA
 
LFC sale.

FSG are in talks with various interested parties.

A lot of American companies/billionaires wameonesha interest na kufanya inquires BUT as it stands Dubai & Middle East people ndiyo wame-make strong moves.

Na kuna strong interest kutoka China pia.

So, its up kwa FSG ku-evaluate offers, as they are seeking 2.7-3bn now, intial aucton offer ya 4bn imekuwa ni kubwa sana kwa interested parties, BUT ukweli ni kuwa mpaka sasa hatujajua ni watu gani wame-present good offers, but a lot of individuals/groups kutoka Dubai/Middle East ambao wame-pledge offers ni wale ambao wamekuwa wakitaka kununua Club kwa kipindi kirefu sana.

Soon baada ya FSG ku-issue statement ya kuuza Club, offer nyingi sana zilifika na zinaendelea kufika, so nadhani wamemaliza au bado wanaendelea ku-evaluate offers zilizopo on the table, Chelsea ambayo ni brand ndogo sana ukilinganisha na LFC, ili-attract offers zaidi ya 200k, so unaweza ukahisi itakuwaje kwa LFC, amongst the 2 biggest clubs in the UK.

So ni waiting game kwasasa, maana 3bn ni BIG ASK, Chelsea got sold for 2.5bn nadhani, FSG started with 4-5bn, which is fair, but wanataka ku-invest kwenye sports team nyingine, na kikubwa zaidi kuhusiana na hii sale ni kuwa Super League ime-fail, FFP ime-fail na pia reccession period is upon us, so wanahitaji ku-cash in mapema, kwa 4-5bn wangeweza kupata buyers ambaye maybe angefika kwenye 3.5-4bn, but ingechukua muda sana, but kwasasa offers nyingi sana sidhani kama zinafika au zinavuka 3bn.

Glazers wameiweka United Sokoni for partial or a full sale, in an ideal world, we all know kuwa Manchester United, ni big brand kuliko LFC, and investors wengi sana watachagua United over LFC at any given time, but katika business sense, LFC ni safe project kwasasa, no debts, no off-pitch developments etc, LFC inahitaji tu on-pitch development ndogo tu, as tunahitaji tu ku-rebuild our MF, na pia we have KLOPP, so inafanya project yetu kuonekana bora zaidi kwa investors, kuliko United ambapo kuna madeni ya kutosha & OT inahitaji big re-developments, kwenye upande wa ku-spend sidhani kama ni tatizo kwa United, they have been spending tangu Glazers waliponunua United, after Fergie they just needed to re-structure the whole club, it took them years kugundua hilo, but hiring ETH was a good start.

We dont know what the new owners watafanya kwa United, but uwepo wa ETH, coach ambaye ana clear plan na vision ni TATIZO kwetu, so new owners wakimpa ETH more trust, authority and power ya kufanya strong decions, haitachukua muda watarudi on top, na you watch City, Pep ka-sign mkataba mpya na kama ka-sign mkataba mpya ni LAZIMA kahaidiwa pesa nyingi sana ya Ku-spend, look at Newcastle, i never thought project yao itaenda kasi kama sasa, kama wakipata top 4 au kumaliza kwenye nafasi nzuri (5-6), they will spend big next summer, so tukizubaa tutaachwa mbali sana, hence its important kupata new owners ambao watakuwa na utayari wa kum-back Klopp, tunahitaji si chini ya 200m ku-rebuild our MF, FSG hawawezi ku-afford hiyo pesa in 2 windows.

Personally, i want Dubai/Middle East (nimekuwa nikisema hili tangu nijiunge humu JF) owners, as wengi wao ni real fans wa Club, na pia arab owners wanapenda ku-compete.

Kwa upande wa Marekani, kuna mmoja alitajwa mara ya kwanza, but kukazuka reports kuwa hayupo interested, but its not true, He is interested na bado yupo kwenye maongezi, he's worth $79bn, sitomtaja kama kwa Dubai/middle east parties, but yupo mezani, bado wote hatujui ame-offer kiasi gani, compared to Arabs & China people. but as a fan nitakuwa happy na Dubai/Middle East owners au huyu Mmarekani, zaidi ya hapo sijajua, maybe China people too, but Wamerekani wengine kama FSG, big NO.
 
MosDef said:
LFC sale.

FSG are in talks with various interested parties.

A lot of American companies/billionaires wameonesha interest na kufanya inquires BUT as it stands Dubai & Middle East people ndiyo wame-make strong moves.

Na kuna strong interest kutoka China pia.

So, its up kwa FSG ku-evaluate offers, as they are seeking 2.7-3bn now, intial aucton offer ya 4bn imekuwa ni kubwa sana kwa interested parties, BUT ukweli ni kuwa mpaka sasa hatujajua ni watu gani wame-present good offers, but a lot of individuals/groups kutoka Dubai/Middle East ambao wame-pledge offers ni wale ambao wamekuwa wakitaka kununua Club kwa kipindi kirefu sana.

Soon baada ya FSG ku-issue statement ya kuuza Club, offer nyingi sana zilifika na zinaendelea kufika, so nadhani wamemaliza au bado wanaendelea ku-evaluate offers zilizopo on the table, Chelsea ambayo ni brand ndogo sana ukilinganisha na LFC, ili-attract offers zaidi ya 200k, so unaweza ukahisi itakuwaje kwa LFC, amongst the 2 biggest clubs in the UK.

So ni waiting game kwasasa, maana 3bn ni BIG ASK, Chelsea got sold for 2.5bn nadhani, FSG started with 4-5bn, which is fair, but wanataka ku-invest kwenye sports team nyingine, na kikubwa zaidi kuhusiana na hii sale ni kuwa Super League ime-fail, FFP ime-fail na pia reccession period is upon us, so wanahitaji ku-cash in mapema, kwa 4-5bn wangeweza kupata buyers ambaye maybe angefika kwenye 3.5-4bn, but ingechukua muda sana, but kwasasa offers nyingi sana sidhani kama zinafika au zinavuka 3bn.

Glazers wameiweka United Sokoni for partial or a full sale, in an ideal world, we all know kuwa Manchester United, ni big brand kuliko LFC, and investors wengi sana watachagua United over LFC at any given time, but katika business sense, LFC ni safe project kwasasa, no debts, no off-pitch developments etc, LFC inahitaji tu on-pitch development ndogo tu, as tunahitaji tu ku-rebuild our MF, na pia we have KLOPP, so inafanya project yetu kuonekana bora zaidi kwa investors, kuliko United ambapo kuna madeni ya kutosha & OT inahitaji big re-developments, kwenye upande wa ku-spend sidhani kama ni tatizo kwa United, they have been spending tangu Glazers waliponunua United, after Fergie they just needed to re-structure the whole club, it took them years kugundua hilo, but hiring ETH was a good start.

We dont know what the new owners watafanya kwa United, but uwepo wa ETH, coach ambaye ana clear plan na vision ni TATIZO kwetu, so new owners wakimpa ETH more trust, authority and power ya kufanya strong decions, haitachukua muda watarudi on top, na you watch City, Pep ka-sign mkataba mpya na kama ka-sign mkataba mpya ni LAZIMA kahaidiwa pesa nyingi sana ya Ku-spend, look at Newcastle, i never thought project yao itaenda kasi kama sasa, kama wakipata top 4 au kumaliza kwenye nafasi nzuri (5-6), they will spend big next summer, so tukizubaa tutaachwa mbali sana, hence its important kupata new owners ambao watakuwa na utayari wa kum-back Klopp, tunahitaji si chini ya 200m ku-rebuild our MF, FSG hawawezi ku-afford hiyo pesa in 2 windows.

Personally, i want Dubai/Middle East (nimekuwa nikisema hili tangu nijiunge humu JF) owners, as wengi wao ni real fans wa Club, na pia arab owners wanapenda ku-compete.

Kwa upande wa Marekani, kuna mmoja alitajwa mara ya kwanza, but kukazuka reports kuwa hayupo interested, but its not true, He is interested na bado yupo kwenye maongezi, he's worth $79bn, sitomtaja kama kwa Dubai/middle east parties, but yupo mezani, bado wote hatujui ame-offer kiasi gani, compared to Arabs & China people. but as a fan nitakuwa happy na Dubai/Middle East owners au huyu Mmarekani, zaidi ya hapo sijajua, maybe China people too, but Wamerekani wengine kama FSG, big NO.
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Kazieni mkuu watuchukue tu waarabu haohao
 
MosDef said:
New Contracts for Firmino & Thiago

Matter of time before they get annouced, could be this year or next year.
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Honestly do we need this mkataba wa Thiago wa sasa unaisha June 2024 sidhani kama huyu mwamba alihitaji tena kuwepo klabuni baada ya hapo maana i guess the more old th more likely injury will affect his output. His salary is 200k kwa week kumwodoa ingesaidia sana wage bill ipumue na kupata a bit young maestro but Klopp being Klopp huyu tunae kama ameweza kuretain Milner who was deemed surplus by Manchester City then hawa wa wazee wetu tunaooo

Firmino japo msimu huu naona amerudi pazuri but his better days are gone man. We need Nkunku ama 'Seseiko' pale mbele.

YNWA
 
Captain Marvelous said:
Honestly do we need this mkataba wa Thiago wa sasa unaisha June 2024 sidhani kama huyu mwamba alihitaji tena kuwepo klabuni baada ya hapo maana i guess the more old th more likely injury will affect his output. His salary is 200k kwa week kumwodoa ingesaidia sana wage bill ipumue na kupata a bit young maestro but Klopp being Klopp huyu tunae kama ameweza kuretain Milner who was deemed surplus by Manchester City then hawa wa wazee wetu tunaooo

Firmino japo msimu huu naona amerudi pazuri but his better days are gone man. We need Nkunku ama 'Seseiko' pale mbele.

YNWA
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Unlike kwa Henderson & Milner, Thiago is a rare talent, ni mchezaji ambaye unaweza kumtegemea kwa 100% akiwa fit, so ni vizuri kuwa naye kwenye team.

Its easy kwa players kama Jude, Caicedo etc (kama tukiwapata), kujifunza mengi kwa Thiago kuliko kina Milner & Hendo, look at Curtis amecheza na kina Milner & Hendo kwa zaidi ya miaka minne na hamna chochote alichojiongezea on the pitch.

Thiago ni rare talent, kama kina Modric, Pirlo etc, ana uwezo wa kucheza mpaka miaka 37-38, kwasababu mpira wake una-rely sana katika hold up plays na ku-recycle possession.

I'd keep Firmino for 2 years pia, good to have mchezaji kama yule. kwenye squad, he can be a backup kwa Nunez or Jota, we just need another wide forward/winger kwasasa.

Nkunku nadhani Chelsea washamalizana nae kwa hatua zote muhimu, labda tu akatae yeye mwishoni (u-turn) but ni chelsea bound.

Players wanaotakiwa kuondoka at LFC ni:

Milner
Henderson (sale)
Oxlade (Free)
Keita (Free)
Curtis Jones (Loan)
Adrian
Arthur (Loan deal ikiisha)

I think Kelleher will want to leave for first team games, we will need another reliable backup GK.

Wachezaji wa kubakiza ni:

Alisson
Trent
Ramsay
Virgil
Matip
Konate
Gomez
Robertson
Kostas
Fabinho
Thiago
Elliott
Carvalho
Jota
Diaz
Salah
Firmino
Nunez.

So in reality, tunahitaji 3 MFs, one wide foward and a GK (Kama GK akiondoka), hiyo ni budget ya 300m (including a forward & a GK)

Kwasasa, ni kuwa we want to buy one MF na a wide forward kwenye january window, bugdet ambayo ni si chini ya 100m, Ward alikuwa Qatar kwaajili ya deal ya Caicedo, tumeshaanza mazungumzo rasmi na Brighton pia, so i think they will want 50-60m for him, Transfer window iliyopita tuli-bid 38m and got turned down.

We want Gakpo pia, but mpaka kabla ya Ronaldo interview, United ndiyo walikuwa wame-advance zaidi kwenye hiyo deal, but baada ya kuvunja mkataba na Ronaldo, nadhani wanaweza kuweka nguvu zaidi upande wa ST, we still dont know, but interest yao kwa Gakpo ni firm, i dont think tunaweza ku-compete nao kwenye upande wa Wages.
 
MosDef said:
Unlike kwa Henderson & Milner, Thiago is a rare talent, ni mchezaji ambaye unaweza kumtegemea kwa 100% akiwa fit, so ni vizuri kuwa naye kwenye team.

Its easy kwa players kama Jude, Caicedo etc (kama tukiwapata), kujifunza mengi kwa Thiago kuliko kina Milner & Hendo, look at Curtis amecheza na kina Milner & Hendo kwa zaidi ya miaka minne na hamna chochote alichojiongezea on the pitch.

Thiago ni rare talent, kama kina Modric, Pirlo etc, ana uwezo wa kucheza mpaka miaka 37-38, kwasababu mpira wake una-rely sana katika hold up plays na ku-recycle possession.

I'd keep Firmino for 2 years pia, good to have mchezaji kama yule. kwenye squad, he can be a backup kwa Nunez or Jota, we just need another wide forward/winger kwasasa.

Nkunku nadhani Chelsea washamalizana nae kwa hatua zote muhimu, labda tu akatae yeye mwishoni (u-turn) but ni chelsea bound.

Players wanaotakiwa kuondoka at LFC ni:

Milner
Henderson (sale)
Oxlade (Free)
Keita (Free)
Curtis Jones (Loan)
Adrian
Arthur (Loan deal ikiisha)

I think Kelleher will want to leave for first team games, we will need another reliable backup GK.

Wachezaji wa kubakiza ni:

Alisson
Trent
Ramsay
Virgil
Matip
Konate
Gomez
Robertson
Kostas
Fabinho
Thiago
Elliott
Carvalho
Jota
Diaz
Salah
Firmino
Nunez.

So in reality, tunahitaji 3 MFs, one wide foward and a GK (Kama GK akiondoka), hiyo ni budget ya 300m (including a forward & a GK)

Kwasasa, ni kuwa we want to buy one MF na a wide forward kwenye january window, bugdet ambayo ni si chini ya 100m, Ward alikuwa Qatar kwaajili ya deal ya Caicedo, tumeshaanza mazungumzo rasmi na Brighton pia, so i think they will want 50-60m for him, Transfer window iliyopita tuli-bid 38m and got turned down.

We want Gakpo pia, but mpaka kabla ya Ronaldo interview, United ndiyo walikuwa wame-advance zaidi kwenye hiyo deal, but baada ya kuvunja mkataba na Ronaldo, nadhani wanaweza kuweka nguvu zaidi upande wa ST, we still dont know, but interest yao kwa Gakpo ni firm, i dont think tunaweza ku-compete nao kwenye upande wa Wages.
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Nachofurahi Klopp siku hizi hajivungi anaropoka tu tunahitaji ku sign wachezaji. Sijui nini kimempata. Kiburi yake ni kama imepungua hivi he has been humbled.
 
Wakuu MosDef na Captain Marvelous hii Habari ni kweli?

Ward took over from Michael Edwards in summer
41-year-old has been at Anfield since 2012
Reds facing uncertain future at executive level
WHAT'S HAPPENING? The 41-year-old took over from Michael Edwards in the role in the summer, but has informed the Reds' hierarchy that he will be stepping down at the end of the current campaign. GOAL understands the decision has been met with surprise and disappointment within Liverpool, but Ward has made it clear that he intends to take a break from football and that there is no intention of taking a new role immediately following his departure. Liverpool have no doubts regarding his integrity and character, and therefore his ability to continue in the role between now and the end of the season.

THE BIGGER PICTURE: Ward joined Liverpool as their European scouting manager in 2012 having previously worked as South American scouting strategist for Manchester City. He was handed the newly-created role of loan pathways & football partnerships manager in 2015, and after significant success he was then promoted to the role of assistant sporting director in December 2020.

With Edwards confirming his intention to leave at the start of the 2021-22 campaign, it was announced that Ward would take over the role in what Liverpool said would be a seamless transition.

With Edwards preparing a 'soft handover', Ward spent much of last season as de facto sporting director. He was, along with chief scout Barry Hunter and head of recruitment Dave Fallows, chiefly responsible for the signing of Luis Diaz from Porto in January, and led negotiations over Mohamed Salah's new contract, which was signed in July. He also secured the signing of Darwin Nunez from Benfica, in what could prove to be a club-record deal, and oversaw the departure of Sadio Mane to Bayern Munich, once it became clear the Senegal star had no intention of renewing, and that Jurgen Klopp was open to his exit.

GOAL understands that Liverpool made significant efforts to persuade Ward to stay, but that changes in organisational structure at Anfield, as well as the looming spectre of a possible takeover of the club, have played a big role in his decision - in particular, the decision of Mike Gordon to take a back seat in terms of day-to-day operations in order to focus on a potential sale.

Billy Hogan, the CEO, has assumed greater day-to-day responsibility but previously Liverpool have worked in a world in which Gordon, Klopp and the sporting director, either Edwards or more recently Ward, have worked together as close-knit triumvirate. Indeed, they had great success doing so, but it appears that that is now changing, and it remains to be seen whether more changes occur at the club in the coming weeks and months, with GOAL understanding that Ian Graham, the highly-regarded director of research, could be next to leave.

AND WHAT'S MORE: Liverpool's owners, Fenway Sports Group, have said they are open to the prospect of new investment into the club, or even a complete sale, should the right offer arise. As yet there have been no concrete developments in that regard, but Gordon has been tasked with taking the lead, suggesting there is a desire to make progress. Indeed, GOAL understands there is a belief within the club that FSG's ownership model, which depends largely on generating revenue through player trading, is reaching the end of its shelf life after a period of remarkable success

THE VERDICT: Big changes are happening at Liverpool, that much is clear. Ward was the man chosen to provide continuity following the exit of Michael Edwards, but his departure leaves a big void, and big questions as to which direction the club are heading in. FSG have transformed the club in terms of its status and value, but how long can their 'self-sustaining' model continue, and how long can the likes of Ward, Fallows, Hunter and Klopp be expected to turn water into wine? Ward's legacy at Anfield is assured - he transformed the club's loan policy, and his fingerprints are all over some of the most significant transfers (Alisson, Fabinho, Thiago Alcantara, Ibrahima Konate, Luis Diaz, Darwin Nunez), as well as key contract renewals (Salah, Alisson, Trent Alexander-Arnold, Virgil van Dijk, Diogo Jota, Harvey Elliott). Liverpool insist it will be 'business as usual' between now and his departure, and that no decision has been made yet regarding a possible replacement, but one thing is clear; times are changing at Anfield, and it will be interesting to see whether that's for better or worse.

WHAT NEXT FOR LIVERPOOL? The Reds are not in action until they face Manchester City in the Carabao Cup fourth round on December 22. Their non-World Cup players will head to Dubai for a training camp early next month
 
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