Liverpool FC (The Reds) | Special Thread

Liverpool FC (The Reds) | Special Thread

Ladder 49 said:
Mkuu nimekuelewa ila mwezi huu wachezaji wetu wengi watakuwawamerudi na sisi wachezaji wetu wote wakiwa fit hakuna timu yakutufunga hapo epl. Ngoja tuone ili tukose sababu kabisa tuwe tuna mlaumu klopp tu.

Mkuu Kila timu ina matatizo yake hapo ukiondoa city hao wengine hawana uzoefu wowote wakushinda mechi zote raundi ya pili kwa sasa.

Liverpool tunaweza kutofungwa mechi zote raundi ya pili kama man city ,yaani raundi ya pili tukamaliza bila kufungwa.

hao wengine hawawezi ndio maana city anatangazaga ubingwa mapema akiwa na hao lakini kwetu hawezi mpaka game ya mwisho.
Watapiga kelele sasa hivi lakini raundi ya pili hawana jeuri hata Chelsea msimu uliopita kelele zilikuwa nyinyi hivi hivi lakini raundi ya pili chali tukamaliza juu yao.


Ulishawahi kusema hapa sasa hivi ili huwe bingwa lazima points kazaa ufikishe.

Sasa hao Man U na Chelsea me nawahesabia mechi bado mechi 2 raundi ya kwanza hii wakipoteza wanapoteza sifa ya kuwa bingwa .

Bingwa hafungwagi mechi 4 kwenye ligi ya hapo epl.


Unakumbuka vizuri tatizo letu la January ila tumeshalekebisha sasa hivi.


Mkuu nimeona ni mapema sana tusubirie game 5 zijazo ndio zitaonesha kwamba safari hii ni wasindikizaji ? Maana tuna game na hao waliopo kwenye top 5 hao.
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Hakuna timu ya kutufunga?
Ilikuwa msimu uliopita,,Msimu huu kila timu inatupiga tu.

Wachezaji akina Handerson?

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choza choza said:
ni kweli maana , Keita, Ox, Jones ni hamna kitu kwa hyo kuumia kwa Thiago tuu eti ndio anguko letu.

pia kupoteana kwa kina fabinho, vvd, trent, kina Diaz badala ya kufunga wanagongesha miamba


Nunez anapiga mtu kichwa tukiwa nyuma goli moja

klopp na stail yake ya High line, na wapuuzi kina Vvd kuwa wavivu kukaba na kutegea offside, huu mfumo ndo aliviziwa Arteta kuliwa chuma 3 Old toilet pale
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Nunez anapiga mtu kichwa tukiwa nyuma goli moja


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Saint Anne said:
Nunez anapiga mtu kichwa tukiwa nyuma goli moja


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Binafsi namkubali sana Nunez, roho iliniuma baada ya kumkosa na akatua Anfield.
Nunez akitulia akaacha utoto nina imani utawasaidia sana, kila nikimtazama Nunez kwenye jezi ya Liverpool hua namuona yule Fernando Torres (Elnino) wa kipindi cha Rafael Benitez.
Liverpool kwenye upande wa Straikers hamjawahi kufeli.
 
Flano said:
Binafsi namkubali sana Nunez, roho iliniuma baada ya kumkosa na akatua Anfield.
Nunez akitulia akaacha utoto nina imani utawasaidia sana, kila nikimtazama Nunez kwenye jezi ya Liverpool hua namuona yule Fernando Torres (Elnino) wa kipindi cha Rafael Benitez.
Liverpool kwenye upande wa Straikers hamjawahi kufeli.
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Mkuu,Acha kulinganisha Torres na vitu vya ajabu ujue.
Torres alinifanya nianze kuipenda Liver..Nikiwa mdogo sana.
 
Saint Anne said:
Mkuu,Acha kulinganisha Torres na vitu vya ajabu ujue.
Torres alinifanya nianze kuipenda Liver..Nikiwa mdogo sana.
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yule jamaa alikua ni hatari, mimi nilikua namkubali tokea bado yupo Atletico.
Toress ni mchezaji pekee wa EPL ambae alikua akitufunga nabaki nacheka tu kwa furaha.
Chelshit yakaenda kumuharibu akawa kama Kai Harvez tu.
Ila nakuhakikishia Nunez akitulia vizuri anaweza kua zaidi ya Torres labda tu Epl imkatae, ila huyo dogo analijua goli nakwambia.
 
Flano said:
yule jamaa alikua ni hatari, mimi nilikua namkubali tokea bado yupo Atletico.
Toress ni mchezaji pekee wa EPL ambae alikua akitufunga nabaki nacheka tu kwa furaha.
Chelshit yakaenda kumuharibu akawa kama Kai Harvez tu.
Ila nakuhakikishia Nunez akitulia vizuri anaweza kua zaidi ya Torres labda tu Epl imkatae, ila huyo dogo analijua goli nakwambia.
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Kwa kiburi alichonacho hawezi kuwa na maajabu yoyote.

Hata akiacha kiburi,bado hatakuwa naa maajabu mpaka katikati pamebadilishwa watu.
Acheze mbele huku akiwategemea mababu akina Milner na Hendo pale katikati..Kuna maajabu gani hapo yatatokeka?🤣
 

Robertson and Alexander-Arnold are the biggest victims of Liverpool's early-season struggles​

Neil Jones
Neil Jones|05 Sept 2022 11:06+03:0043

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As Jurgen Klopp looks for the right balance at Anfield, his brilliant, flying full-backs are searching for their best form

We should probably start by stating the obvious. Playing as they are, Liverpool can forget about winning the Premier League title this season.
Six games into the new campaign, Jurgen Klopp’s side already face an uphill battle, a challenge to reassert their authority. Having dropped nine points from a possible 18, the question at the moment is whether their slow start is just that, a temporary blip, or if it is something altogether more alarming.
Depending on your viewpoint, the Reds are either an evolving team packed with talent and potential, or one which is tired and has lost its sparkle. Are they a work in progress or a declining force? You decide.
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Against Everton on Saturday there were signs of both. Merseyside derbies are not always the best games from which to make definitive judgements, but at Goodison Park you could understand why Klopp has confidence that better times are around the corner, but also why so many supporters are concerned about the direction his team is heading in.
Flickering into life and bristling with intent one minute, lethargic and terrifyingly easy to counter-attack the next, the game was in many ways a distillation of Liverpool’s season so far. Context is important, specifically the injuries which have so disrupted their plans and team selections, but there is no doubt that Klopp and his players are still searching for something, be it rhythm, form, fitness, confidence, belief or a combination of them all.
Their struggles, perhaps, can be best summed up by the problems facing their flying full-backs, Trent Alexander-Arnold and Andy Robertson, who have for so long been integral to Liverpool’s style, but who are yet to exert anything like the same kind of attacking influence so far this term.
Robertson, in fact, was left out of the starting XI against Everton, with Kostas Tsimikas preferred, while Alexander-Arnold was substituted after 58 minutes, having been replaced after 71 in the midweek win over Newcastle. Both wore faces of thunder as they made their way through the Goodison mixed zone afterwards.
Klopp’s reasoning is that while the rest of his team - particularly his midfield - is feeling the effects of injury, there is a need to ensure that those who are available, particularly key players such as Alexander-Arnold and Robertson, are not overburdened early in the campaign.
“It has nothing to do with performance, even when I know that Trent can play better than today, definitely,” Klopp said when asked to explain Alexander-Arnold’s withdrawal at Everton. “It’s just that we have to get through this period.
“Trent is playing all the time, Robbo is playing all the time. We have alternatives there so that’s why we have to use them, to bring fresh energy on the pitch, pretty much.”
Klopp might deny this, but there is no question that there has been something different about Liverpool this season. Bar the win over Bournemouth, a ruthless thrashing of willing opposition, they have lacked the kind of cohesion, organisation and balance which have been their hallmarks for years.
Understandable, perhaps, with the likes of Luis Diaz, Fabio Carvalho and Darwin Nunez still being fully integrated into the squad, and with Harvey Elliott bringing a new - and exciting - dynamic to their midfield play. If it looks a little disjointed at present, that might be because players are still working each other’s game out.
That is certainly the case with Robertson and Diaz, who have combined well on occasion but who at this moment in time have nothing like the understanding that Robertson built up with Sadio Mane.
With Mane, the movements became almost second nature. Both knew exactly where the other would be at any given time, and would adjust their position accordingly. It was planned, structured, automatic and often devastating in its effectiveness.
Diaz is a different kind of wideman, one who prefers to drop deep to receive possession and attack defenders, and who is as comfortable carrying the ball infield as he is combining with an overlapping full-back. The Colombian is a fine player, and has already proven a good signing for Liverpool, but there is room for improvement in terms of his ability to connect with his team-mates, for sure.
It is another South American signing that may hold the key to Alexander-Arnold’s form. Nunez’s arrival marks arguably the single biggest shift in Liverpool’s strategy since the arrivals of Virgil van Dijk, Fabinho and Alisson Becker in 2018, when Klopp decided that the spine of his side had to be populated with elite, physically-dominant players.
At 23, Nunez is far from the finished article - witness his promising-but-raw display at Everton for evidence in that regard - but his strength, aerial presence and ability to generate shooting opportunities inside the penalty box will change the way Liverpool play, and Alexander-Arnold should, with time and training-ground work, provide a rich supply line for the Uruguayan. We have already seen an evolution in the England international’s game, with him drifting infield from right-back and looking to create from central areas, a la Joao Cancelo, Philipp Lahm or Joshua Kimmich.
Alexander-Arnold too is having to adjust to new personnel this season, with Liverpool having used three different right-sided centre-backs so far, and with Elliott beginning to establish himself on the right of the midfield three.
For so long, the likes of Jordan Henderson and James Milner (or perhaps Gini Wijnaldum) were trusted to plug the gaps while Alexander-Arnold and Mohamed Salah wreaked havoc, but Liverpool have, by design or by circumstance, begun to edge towards a more technical midfield, with Elliott, Thiago Alcantara, Curtis Jones and Carvalho all happier with the ball than without it. The same can be said of Arthur Melo, the deadline-day loan signing from Juventus, who will provide cover in the ongoing absence of Naby Keita and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.
Alexander-Arnold, of course, remains one of Liverpool’s key men, and should be trusted to work through these early-season struggles and rediscover top form. Robertson, too, should be backed. For all Tsimikas’ qualities and personality, he is simply not in the Scot’s class, either defensively or in the attacking third.
This week sees the Reds begin their Champions League campaign with a tricky-looking trip to Napoli, and it will be interesting to see if the lights and glamour of Europe’s premier competition helps snap a few players out of their slumber.
Liverpool, after all, have reached three of the last five finals, and if they are to add to their rich continental heritage then they will need all of their stars to shine.
And in particular, their fantastic full-back duo
 
mkombengwa said:
Huwez kuwa Liverpool mkereketwa ukasema MANE katuachia laana,
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Laana kubwa sana,walahh hata tuchinje Mbuzi Katoliki hiyo laana haiwezi kutuacha salama.

Ukweli mchungu vile vifaa vya Man ni balaa kubwa.
 
Ladder 49 said:
Mkuu kwanini Robertson awe dropped? Ndio tucheze 4231.

Ila naona siku hizi pia Robertson anakaba sana kwa macho watu kupiga klosi upande wake ni kawaida tu . Kama vile mechi na Villarreal mtu yuko nae karibu lakini anamuacha mpaka anapiga klosi mpaka mnashangaa tukawa tunasema anacheza mechi nyingi anachoka apumzike.

Lakini ni vile vile tu msimu huu.
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@Ladder 49

Our Left Back, Robertson ni world class player (Thanks to Klopp), but ni ONE DIMENSIONAL PLAYER, his main strength is PACE, so he needs a lot of space/big voids/running channels to explode/move the ball forward.

Robertson, anaweza ku-shine in a 4231, kama pivot ikiwa na MFs ambao ni very mobile na good runners (Prime Henderson/Wijnaldum), hence ali-shine sana wakati tuna MF-3 ya Fab-Gini-Henderson, because it was so easy for Gini/Hendo ku-cover his tracks/running spaces from the back to the front, na ndiyo maana utaona Robertson alikuwa anapanda na kushuka at ease na ku-create a lot of good chances/good crosses, pia he had good understanding na Mane, because Mane siyo ball to feet winger, ni runner & ball accerelator, so ilikuwa rahisi sana yeye na Mane ku-switch kweye touch-line mpaka kwenye box, Robertson aki-overlap, Mane ana-move kutoka kwenye touch-line na kuingia ndani kidogo/pembeni kidogo ya box la adui ili ku-draw out opponents RB/RCB/DM na kutengeneza passing/crossing channels za Robertson, sasa now ana-struggle because Diaz ni BALL TO FEET WINGER, he needs mpira ili ku-make impact, he's not a typical runner/ball accerelator, so anapata kazi kuzisoma overlapping traps za Robertson, Diaz anahitaji mpira ili ku-draw out defenders/kutengeneza passing/attacking voids.

Then, kama nilivyoeleza huko juu, now kwenye MF yetu, hatuna runners, Fabinho, Thiago, Arthur, Elliot, Jones, Keita etc hawa siyo runners wala mobile MFs, ni MFs wanaotegemea zaidi technical side of football, so once uki-deploy a 4231, you'll have a double pivot of Thiago-Fabinho, ambayo ni slow/not mobile but wana good skill-set na reliable nature ya ku-read the whole game, maana AKILI ya ku-anticipate danger ndiyo wanayoitegemea zaidi kwenye kulinda zones zao, because siyo wakimbiaji (runners), sasa as a modern LB ambaye upo tasked na kuzuia na kushambulia/kutengeneza nafasi za magoli, unatakiwa uwe able/uwezo wa kukaa na mpira, na kikubwa zaidi ku-switch mpira from left to right (This is Trent bread & butter), ukiangalia mpira unaweza ukahisi suala la ku-switch mipira ni la kawaida sana, but lina maana kubwa sana kwenye defending na attacking sense, kwenye ku-defend, pale LB/RB wanavyo switch uwanja anakuwa ana-ease defensive burden kwa MFs na kuwaruhusu kurudi katika shape ya awali, ready to defend/create/reverting to build-up patterns from the back-middle-front, sasa ukiwa na immobile MFs, ku-switch uwanja kunawasaidia sana, kuliko kuna make runs/attack thr flanks na kufanya overlaps, maanake LB anapoteza mpira akiwa kwenye overlaps, inakuwa ngumu kwa immobile MFs ku-time counters, especially kama nao walikuwa wamepanda kushambulia, so suala la tracking back linakuwa ngumu sana, as MFs haina pace afu tunakuwa hatuna extra body kwenye kiungo tofauti na 433, maana hata kama hatuna runners, tunakuwa na bodies za kutosha kwenye MF na kwenye backline.

Again, Personnel ya kucheza 4231 tunayo, but Klopp wont risk, ku-drop baadhi ya wachezaji.
 
The Boss said:
Unasemaje kuhusu Man city season hii wamesajili for cheap wachezaji Kama Akanji lakini wanaonekana watakuwa better kuliko wa man United.....what's your opinion?
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Man City under Pep and their owners, will always be better than United.

You see, Man City tayari wana a world class Squad, so anachokifanya Guardiola ni ku-cover nyufa na kuongeza dam mpya kila msimu.

CBs wao ni Dias, Laporte, Ake, Stones, Stones na Laporte hawana good injury record, so kwa wenzentu hii tayari inakuwa ni kengele ya hatari, so Akanji ni good signing kwasababu anakuwa na uwezo wa kuziba gaps za kina Laporte/Stones au CBs wao wengine pale wanapoumia.

This is how unatengeneza kikosi imara na endelevu, hausubirii mpaka uwe na injury crisis ili ku-react, na kama zikitokea injuries, tayari kunakuwepo na a ready made/CL proven CB na ku-come in.

Then Again, buying Akanji from Dortmund, kunaweza kuwa ni suala kutengeneza uhusiano mzuri wa kibiashara, for future business, City are interested in Jude pia, na msimu ujao kama Barcelona wakiwa na funds za kumununua Bernardo, then he will 100% move, na watahitaji a replacement, so you never know.

Ndiyo maana, nasema kila siku, kama ikifika january, na hakuna pre-agreement deal kati yetu na Dortmund kuhusu Jude, but tusahahau kumpata, itakuwa ni bidding war kati ya City na Madrid.
 
Proffesor said:
Namlaumu sana klopp kwa kumuacha mane aondoke.... gap la mane n kubwa mnooo
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FSG, our tight owner, wasingekubali kutoa bumper deals kwa 30 year-attackers wote wawili, so Klopp na wao(FSG) had to choose, na ikaonekana Salah ana make a lot of sense, kiuchumi na kimpira.

And i think Mane alikuwa ashajua his fate, na ndiyo maana alianza mapema sana ku-negotiate gate-away deal na Bayern.

I wanted him to get a new deal at LFC, but at the end of they we have tight owners, so wao kuamua kum-bakisha Salah ni good outcome, maana kuna kipindi nilikuwa nadhani Salah na Mane wote wangeondoka this summer.

Sasa, Mane ameshaondoka, wish zetu zote hazikukubaliwa, maana sisi siyo owners, na tumeshaongea kila kitu kuhusu hawa owners wetu, so hakukuwa na jinsi, BUT kuondoka kwa Mane kunafungua chapter mpya na new attackers (Diaz, Nunez, Carvalho) its time to back them.

Yes, unaweza ukasema tunam-miss Mane, na ukawa RIGHT, but team yetu kwasasa ina matatizo mengi sana, na kubwa zaidi ni eneo la kiungo, tunafail ku-control mchezo, na kufail huko kunafanya tunashindwa hata ku-sustain attacks za opponents/counters, but kwenye attacking line kuna a lot of positives, even with Salah kucheza wide kabisa, bado tunatengeneza nafasi nzuri/nyingi, na hii ni bila ya kuwa na functioning MF, na suala nzima la ku-twerk kabisa shape nzima ya our attacking patterns.

I've witnessed WC stars leave LFC throughout the years, tena tukiwa katika our lows, so sikuumia Mane kuondoka, niliona tu ni kitu kinachoonesha kuwa hatuna serious owners, but suala la wachezaji ku-switch clubs ni la kawaida sana, na especially ukiwa kama LFC fan ambaye ushashuhudia world beaters wakiondoka wakati unawahitaji zaidi.

Kama Klopp/FSG wangekuwa wameimarisha eneo la kiungo, hizi issues za kuwa we are missing Mane, zisingekuwepo, last season points zote tulizo-drop, Mane alikuwepo uwanjani, BUT Thiago hakuwepo.

Inaumiza, lakini ukweli ni kuwa Thiago ni GLUE ya hii team kwasasa, ndiyo maana hopes zote zipo kwake, not Salah, not Fabinho, not VVD, not Trent, not Alisson.
 
King Ngwaba said:
Kuna hizi Timu zimetueka kwenye hatari ya kutukosesha Top 4.

1) Man City
2) Chelsea
3) Man United
4) Arsenal

Liverpool & Spurs tunaweza jikuta tunagombania nafasi ya 5&6.

Najua Washabiki wa Liverpool ni Kama Kenge hawaamini mpaka waone Damu zinawataka masikioni lakini hatari ipo mbele yetu.

Zile kauli za kuwa "Man United na Arsenal ndiyo kawaida yao" basi msimu huu tusizotegemee sana.
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Chelsea, maybe kama Tuchel will get his team firing & quck.

But, Utd & Arsenal wont finish above us.

I'm more worried about Conte kuliko hizo two teams.

Klopp can be so annoying at times, but tusimu-underrate kama tunavyofanya sasa, he's still a world class coach pamoja na his flaws, anajua amefanya mistake kwenye transfer window, na he will do everything to get it right, on the pitch.

Mwanzo wa msimu umekuwa m-baya, na yanayotokea sasa, wewe pia ulikuwa unayapigia sana makelele huko nyuma (despite na abuses kutoka kwa proper reds), but we are only 5 points behind Man city, bado msimu ni mrefu, tuna WC players ambao bado hawajarudi kwenye form kabisa, Thiago amerudi (tunamuhitaji hata kwa games 15 tu), Jota amerudi, Matip amerudi, Konate anakaribia kurudi, we've added Arthur (a very talented MF who will need to prove a point)

Muda ambao tunatakiwa tuanza kuwa na wasiwasi, ni pale Thiago atakaporudi, na bado matokeo yakawa mabaya, maana itamaanisha kuwa tatizo ni kubwa beyond the dressing room.

But, kwasasa we need to HOPE.

we have a world class but a coward manager, and we have tight and stupid owners, but for the part 7 years, our World Class-coward Manager ndiyo ANATUBEBA, he's just an ignorant-GENIUS.
 
King Ngwaba said:
Since day one sijawahi kuukubali usajili ya wa huyu mwehu (Najua ana uwezo Mkubwa sana ila sikubaliani na nidhamu yake ya Kisela uwanjani).

Hapa tumepoteza pesa bure tu! Tulikuwa na uwezo wa kumnunua Halaand na Change ya Mshahara wake wa Miaka miwili inabakia lakini Klopp akaamua kwenda kuchukua huyu Mvuta Bange ambaye nahisi alikuwa Mkabaji kabla ya kuwa Mchezaji mpira.
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Haaland, tusingeweza kulipa his wages.

Nunez, will suprise you ALL.

PROPER NUMBER 9.

He will suprise you ALL.

And, when that day comes, nitakuwepo hapa kuwakumbusha.
 
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