Liverpool FC (The Reds) | Special Thread

Liverpool FC (The Reds) | Special Thread

I see him more of an attcking midfielder than a CM midfielder... Anyway i remember once Coutinho teared Arsenal apart in the central Midfield and i was shocked... Remember the 5-1 match? The kid has brain in his boots if only he can be transformed into an elite CM that'll be a piece to fit the jigsaw... I hate the fact that Liverpool is the only top team without elite and creative Central Midfielders who can tear the other mids apart and cause chaos... We just have the industrialized players who don't realize when to dribble and when to pass... All to mention a few, we need a ball playing and intelligent midfielder... our final third needs support from deep.. Granit Xhaka and Gundogan at the same time... that would be a steal of the summer tranfsfer

Good Point bro..

Xhaka ingekuwa ni bonge ya signing, but Man City and Pep wanamuhitaji pia, Klopp ana pulling power, but sidhan kama tunaweza kushindana na City kifedha hasa kwenye wages, thats why unaweza ukaona tunakuwa Linked na Ignacio Camacho, and recently tumempa mkataba mpya Stewart, yote hii ni katika kucover eneo ya DM, kuhusu Gundogan nadhan demands za Wages zitakuwa kubwa, maana kama tunaenda kwa Zielnski sioni uwezekano wa kuja kwa Gundogan, remember we have Grujic pia..

ninavyoona mimi ni kuwa, next season kutakuwa na Midfield trio ya Camacho/any other DM- Can- Zielinski, uwezekano wa Xhaka na Gundogan siuoni Aisee, lakin kwa Gundogan tuna nafasi kubwa sana ya kumsajili kama tukimuhitaji (Klopp's influence), but kwa jinsi mambo yanavyokwenda, mpaka sasa concrete links zilizopo ni Zielinski (100%), ousmane Dembele, Chilwell na Sasa hii ya Paredes..and local journas wanasema tuna interest na Gotze, (could be our Marquee signing)..

Xhaka, Sane etc zilikuwa ni moja kati ya targets za LFC, but oil money teams wants them pia...kuna ugumu hapo..
 
Man Dung is smoking the weed you explain is it from Mars or Mercury... He's shit at times with his decisions... He has never fancied Moura take that no does he love Thiago Silva anymore... Coutinho had never been his fav player and you might seee him on the bench till the next games at Anfield.. Kaka had a call up since last matches..
Dunga Loves and Rates Firmino.

Kila mtu anajua kuwa Dunga doesnt rate Cou..

kuhusu hilo suala la Lucas na Thiago, i disagree, labda nipate uthibitisho.
 
the Kop legend himself (Mark Lawrenson) speaks his mind out about yesterday's 1-2 win vs Crystal Pallace...

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Liverpool: Is Jurgen Klopp a genius, or did he just get lucky?
By Mark Lawrenson

MOTD2 pundit and former Liverpool player

Some people will see Liverpool's fightback to beat Crystal Palace as further evidence of the 'Jurgen Klopp effect', but on this occasion I think it had as much to do with them getting a bit lucky.

According to their own records, Sunday's 2-1 win at Selhurst Park was the first time in the Reds' 124-year history they have come back from a goal down to win with 10 men.

That is a great achievement, but Klopp's hand was forced because his side were a goal and a man down with half an hour left, and he had to gamble.


It looks good because it came off but, if Palace keeper Alex McCarthy had not slipped to gift them an equaliser, I did not see Liverpool scoring at all.

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Roberto Firmino's goal at Selhurst Park means he has scored or assisted more Premier League goals in 2016 than any other player (7 goals, 4 assists)
Until then, they had been very ordinary. They did not even manage a shot on target until the 65th minute and, after they had been so good against Manchester City on Wednesday, it was a performance that summed up their inconsistent season.

Sometimes in football you just get a break, and that slip was Liverpool's.

At that point, Palace panicked. They made another costly mistake with the stoppage-time penalty that saw Liverpool score their winner but it was their poor game management that contributed to their own downfall as much as Klopp's tactics.

What did Klopp do?
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WITH 11 MEN: Liverpool's 4-2-3-1 formation, with James Milner, Roberto Firmino and Adam Lallana operating behind lone striker Divock Origi, had given them limited success
Klopp had made an attacking substitution on 61 minutes, bringing on Philippe Coutinho for full-back Jon Flanagan, with the intention of switching James Milner to full-back.

Seconds later, Milner was shown a second yellow card.

Klopp switched from a 4-2-3-1 formation to a 3-4-2 shape, with Dejan Lovren being asked to play on the right of their defence, and the whole team pressed Palace high up the pitch.

They were taking a big chance because their three-man defence did not have much cover, but the thinking was 'we might as well get beaten 2-0 by trying to get something out of the match'.

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WITH 10 MEN: Lovren has to cover centre-half and the right flank - other than the back three, Jordan Henderson and Emre Can were Liverpool's only defensive-minded players
Why did it work?
Klopp said afterwards his side helped to force McCarthy's mistake because they were pressing so high up the pitch - but I did not see that.

A keeper probably has to deal with about a dozen back-passes like that in every game and, even under pressure, a slip and a mis-kick is very rare.

The worst thing about it was the way Palace reacted. They suddenly looked very nervous and that just encouraged Liverpool.

Alan Pardew's side also tried to chase the game, which was understandable because of their poor recent form - they have not won in the Premier League since before Christmas and playing at home against 10 men will have seemed like a great chance to end that run.

At that stage, Palace would have been better off protecting the point they still had. They should have done the same thing when they were ahead.

They could have tightened things up by bringing back Yannick Bolasie and Wilfried Zaha and playing with just one up front.

The way the game was decided, Palace will see themselves as unlucky to lose but they were in complete control and managed to throw it away.

Why Liverpool's penalty was the correct call

It was not a soft penalty that Palace conceded in the 94th minute, it was a daft one.

Damien Delaney did not have to tackle Christian Benteke, because he was only going one way and he was running towards the bye-line, not the goal.

All Delaney has to do is hold him up, but instead he goes to make the tackle.

It doesn't matter that he tried to pull out because if a striker feels anyone touch him at all inside the area, then he is going over.

I was watching it in the Match of the Day 2 production office and at first we all shouted that it was never a penalty but the linesman made the call and it turned out he got it right.

There are suggestions video assistance could be brought in to help officials soon and in this case it would have confirmed it was a penalty, because replays from a certain angle helped show there was contact between Delaney's knee and Benteke's foot.

There is a minimum amount of contact and only Benteke knows whether it was enough to bring him down but, once you have got contact, in a situation like this one where the forward is running in the area, then it is a penalty.

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Benteke's late winner was his first goal in 13 games, since he scored against Sunderland on 30 December
I understand why Pardew was upset to lose it like that so late, but it was the correct decision so it does not make any difference that it happened in the last seconds of the game.

Pardew says he does not think Palace would have got a penalty in similar circumstances at the other end, but he definitely would have wanted one.

Liverpool in good shape for United clashes
Seeing Manchester United lose at West Brom under similar circumstances, after going down to 10 men, will be another boost for Liverpool.

The Reds are now only one place and three points behind United, and have got the greater impetus going into two big games against them in the Europa League.

The top four is still a big ask for the Reds while they remain so inconsistent but winning the way they did against Palace, after playing poorly, will be such a good feeling.

Mark Lawrenson was speaking to BBC Sport's Chris Bevan
 
Good Point bro..

Xhaka ingekuwa ni bonge ya signing, but Man City and Pep wanamuhitaji pia, Klopp ana pulling power, but sidhan kama tunaweza kushindana na City kifedha hasa kwenye wages, thats why unaweza ukaona tunakuwa Linked na Ignacio Camacho, and recently tumempa mkataba mpya Stewart, yote hii ni katika kucover eneo ya DM, kuhusu Gundogan nadhan demands za Wages zitakuwa kubwa, maana kama tunaenda kwa Zielnski sioni uwezekano wa kuja kwa Gundogan, remember we have Grujic pia..

ninavyoona mimi ni kuwa, next season kutakuwa na Midfield trio ya Camacho/any other DM- Can- Zielinski, uwezekano wa Xhaka na Gundogan siuoni Aisee, lakin kwa Gundogan tuna nafasi kubwa sana ya kumsajili kama tukimuhitaji (Klopp's influence), but kwa jinsi mambo yanavyokwenda, mpaka sasa concrete links zilizopo ni Zielinski (100%), ousmane Dembele, Chilwell na Sasa hii ya Paredes..and local journas wanasema tuna interest na Gotze, (could be our Marquee signing)..

Xhaka, Sane etc zilikuwa ni moja kati ya targets za LFC, but oil money teams wants them pia...kuna ugumu hapo..

Man we need to pull a trigger for atleast one good world class... As for me, we may not win over Xhaka but getting Gundo can be ideal for Liverpool with him and Can in the Midfield.... Then put Sane down man, Germans are overpricing their players as for recently... Remember the Draxler to Arsenal deal? You can see where he ended at.. Get Dembele before the Euros he just has two years left on his contract then pull a trigger for Gotze... As for me....


New Goalie

Clyne Lovren Matip Moreno

Can Gundogan

Gotze Firmino Coutinho

Sturridge..

Subs... Lallana, Dembele (he'll need time), Henderson, Ings, Origi... Sakho, Skrtel

Looks like a decent team before i pull the strings from that mega Pounds.... Get a new fox striker,,, hungry one. And Liverpool is unstoppable
 
Man we need to pull a trigger for atleast one good world class... As for me, we may not win over Xhaka but getting Gundo can be ideal for Liverpool with him and Can in the Midfield.... Then put Sane down man, Germans are overpricing their players as for recently... Remember the Draxler to Arsenal deal? You can see where he ended at.. Get Dembele before the Euros he just has two years left on his contract then pull a trigger for Gotze... As for me....


New Goalie

Clyne Lovren Matip Moreno

Can Gundogan

Gotze Firmino Coutinho

Sturridge..

Subs... Lallana, Dembele (he'll need time), Henderson, Ings, Origi... Sakho, Skrtel

Looks like a decent team before i pull the strings from that mega Pounds.... Get a new fox striker,,, hungry one. And Liverpool is unstoppable
Sturridge lol, i would prefer flanno to moreno, moreno has pace
 
The funny thing is, Moreno has created more chances than any of our players mpaka sasa kwenye premier league
Moreno anafaa kucheza winga sio beki,ni mzuri ku-create chance lakini ni mbovu sana kwenye ku-defend
 
Man we need to pull a trigger for atleast one good world class... As for me, we may not win over Xhaka but getting Gundo can be ideal for Liverpool with him and Can in the Midfield.... Then put Sane down man, Germans are overpricing their players as for recently... Remember the Draxler to Arsenal deal? You can see where he ended at.. Get Dembele before the Euros he just has two years left on his contract then pull a trigger for Gotze... As for me....


New Goalie

Clyne Lovren Matip Moreno

Can Gundogan

Gotze Firmino Coutinho

Sturridge..

Subs... Lallana, Dembele (he'll need time), Henderson, Ings, Origi... Sakho, Skrtel

Looks like a decent team before i pull the strings from that mega Pounds.... Get a new fox striker,,, hungry one. And Liverpool is unstoppable

Lets wait and see summer hii itakuwaje, ila cant see us signing Gundogan labda tufanye kwa kushtukiza kama ile deal ya Teixeira, but nina uhakika 100% kama Klopp akimuhitaji atakuja LFC

Yap, kwa Sane nahisi ndiyo maana tumeupiga chini mpango wa kumsajili, (expensive sana), we had Dembele na Mbappe kwenye radar zetu, but nmeona sehemu kuwa Mbappe kasign mkataba mpya..so nadhani kilichobaki ni kusell our project mapema iwezekanavyo kwa Dembele..reliable reds wanasema we're trying hard mpaka muda huu..

Lallana ni mmoja kati ya wachezaji ambao wanatakiwa waondoke LFC.

And Yes tunatikiwa kuongeza ST mwingine, feel for Benteke, but nahis akiendelea kubaki LFC career yake itaisha mapema mno..anatakiwa kuondoka..so Sturridge, Origi, Ings, and ANOTHER decent ST, tutakuwa tumekamilika mbele..

but kikubwa tunachotakiwa kufanya ni kukitengeneza kiungo kwanza..itabidi tuanzie hapo.
 
Emre Can ni future LFC captain..he's only 22

ape tu hata hii summer dogo huwa ana passion nzuri uwanjani mara nyingi ndo mtu pekee anaye-join first the goal celebration party (refer hata ile kesi ya ballo na hendo uefa alivyoi-treat as a team na kumtaka hendo aache personal issue)
 
Lets wait and see summer hii itakuwaje, ila cant see us signing Gundogan labda tufanye kwa kushtukiza kama ile deal ya Teixeira, but nina uhakika 100% kama Klopp akimuhitaji atakuja LFC

Yap, kwa Sane nahisi ndiyo maana tumeupiga chini mpango wa kumsajili, (expensive sana), we had Dembele na Mbappe kwenye radar zetu, but nmeona sehemu kuwa Mbappe kasign mkataba mpya..so nadhani kilichobaki ni kusell our project mapema iwezekanavyo kwa Dembele..reliable reds wanasema we're trying hard mpaka muda huu..

Lallana ni mmoja kati ya wachezaji ambao wanatakiwa waondoke LFC.

And Yes tunatikiwa kuongeza ST mwingine, feel for Benteke, but nahis akiendelea kubaki LFC career yake itaisha mapema mno..anatakiwa kuondoka..so Sturridge, Origi, Ings, and ANOTHER decent ST, tutakuwa tumekamilika mbele..

but kikubwa tunachotakiwa kufanya ni kukitengeneza kiungo kwanza..itabidi tuanzie hapo.
Mkuu @MosDes umenitoa mafichoni leo nina mda mrefu sana sijachangia

Can ni rahis kuimprove akiwa na someone with a cool head pale in midfield..can ana all atributes.mueke with gundogen n he will look great..tatizo he is playing na watu kama hendo ambao wanaogopa mipira so can unamkuta anakaa na mpira mda mrefu akijarib kuexplore options za passing so anapotez mipira ovyo..but he is full package
 
Msimu ujao nikimuona henderson na milner kwenye pitch i will never watch a game.
Henderson at the age 25 hapo kafika prime age ya midfielder..hapa ndo weng wanakua teyar wanafika true level na their top Development stage hua age ya 21-24
Mtu asipodevelop hapo then basi tena unless he is late bloomer kama Zidane

So captain gan dunian ambae anahitaj msaada wa watu wengine ili ndo ashine...captain shud inspire players around him..he shud lead by example..
When the going gets tough captain ndo abebe team..ila hendo mambo yakiwa magum ndo wakwanza kujificha...yeye na milner wanacheza hide and seek uwanjan
 
My opinion Finishing the season with a coherent playing style and obvious steps towards consolidating that the following season. Anything else is a bonus for me etc uropa plus epl big 4 ni bonus tu kwngu
 
milner huwa anaichanganya timu
Firminho and Coutinho are the only players worth keeping...Henderson is like shit, NOTHING, big NOTHING! Ibe, really?! WORTHLESS! moreno should be benched for a few games, Can as well!! we have only Firminho Coutinho (every 3 games) that play, middle doesn't exist, def not to talk about. Mignolet like hahahahha...
If we cant buy good players at least we can give a chance to some young ones, because with henderson, mignolet, milner sakho etc we cant do shit! I always supported Liverpool with all my heart and I always will, but this is just starting to be very frustrating!!!
 
Mkuu @MosDes umenitoa mafichoni leo nina mda mrefu sana sijachangia

Can ni rahis kuimprove akiwa na someone with a cool head pale in midfield..can ana all atributes.mueke with gundogen n he will look great..tatizo he is playing na watu kama hendo ambao wanaogopa mipira so can unamkuta anakaa na mpira mda mrefu akijarib kuexplore options za passing so anapotez mipira ovyo..but he is full package

Emre Can anafanya kazi mbili uwanjani, ya kwake na ya Henderson mzee wa sideways na back-passes, sawa tunajua anacheza na maumivu lakin jamaa ni average sana, anachojua ni kuwapigia marefa makelele tu, (sijui vilitumika vigezo gani kumpa ucaptain jamaa yetu), he's just a good squad player..

Me nitapoteza imani yangu KUBWA niliyonayo kwa Klopp kama Henderson ataendelea kuwa regular starter next season..
 
Henderson at the age 25 hapo kafika prime age ya midfielder..hapa ndo weng wanakua teyar wanafika true level na their top Development stage hua age ya 21-24
Mtu asipodevelop hapo then basi tena unless he is late bloomer kama Zidane

So captain gan dunian ambae anahitaj msaada wa watu wengine ili ndo ashine...captain shud inspire players around him..he shud lead by example..
When the going gets tough captain ndo abebe team..ila hendo mambo yakiwa magum ndo wakwanza kujificha...yeye na milner wanacheza hide and seek uwanjan

Henderson team ikizidiwa anajificha.

hana leadership quality yoyote ile, moments ambazo unategemea captain astep up kwa ajili ya team ndo kwanza anakuwa anajificha, sideways pass kibao..ndo maana kina Firmino, Sturridge, Coutinho mara kwa mara huwa wanadrop deep kutafuta mipira, manake Captain wetu anakuwa haelewi afanye nini akiwa na mpira.
 
Henderson team ikizidiwa anajificha.

hana leadership quality yoyote ile, moments ambazo unategemea captain astep up kwa ajili ya team ndo kwanza anakuwa anajificha, sideways pass kibao..ndo maana kina Firmino, Sturridge, Coutinho mara kwa mara huwa wanadrop deep kutafuta mipira, manake Captain wetu anakuwa haelewi afanye nini akiwa na mpira.

Haha hah nimecheka sana yule mzee wa back pass
 

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