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[Mmongolilomo]

Tatizo sio kwamba hawazioni picha ila hawajui unazungumzia nini. Eneo kweli lipo katika hali ya kusafishwa tayari kwa kuanza ujenzi. Anachosema Mwanakjj ni kuvunjwa kwa sheria ya ardhi no.4 ya mwaka 1999 inayosema 'eneo la mita mia moja kutoka maji yanapotua kwenda nchi kavu litabaki kuwa eneo la watu wote yaani 😛ublic land:. Sasa linapokuja kugawiwa km hivyo manake siku sio nyingi wataigawa hata IKULU

 

[Fidel80]

Kuwalaumu wahindi ni upuuzi. Lini tumekuwa na Rais au waziri mkuu mhindi? Mhindi gani aliwai kuwa waziri wa ardhi? Au mkurugenzi wa mipango miji ( au whatever)? Au huko NEMC kuna wahindi wangapi? .

Kweli FM
Umewahi sikia wapi hapa Tanzania muhindi ni Polisi? umewahi ona wapi Muhindi ni askari wa JKT au JWTZ? umewahi ona wapi muhindi ni mgambo? umewahi ona wapi muhindi ni mlinzi? Ni sisi wenyewe miafrika tunajiharibia tena ni wachache sana wenye roho za tamaa

 

[Kimweri]

Land grabbing in Tanzania is in one way or another caused by "wakubwa's" fear that EAC will lead to LAND shortages..,and what better place will he CORRUPTED Kenyan official's hide/dump their ill gotten money than the prime locations of the mighty Dar?talking,masaki, oysterbay,kunduchi etc.

No wonder the land/property price keeps shooting over the roof,it is not only Tanzanians in the equation but Kenyan's,Somali's etc.

KIKWETE please revoke this thing..,hiyo golden Tulip yenyewe inaitwa mouse trap Travel advisor,the word is Tourists are warning each other-do not stay @ golden Tulip.

That place should be Public beaches and gardens of we care about our people,wakazi wa buguruni,kimara,ubungo etc wanahaki ya kupulizwa na upepo wa bahari at least once a week.

why so greedy??

 

[Kimweri]

Every time i see pictures of my beautiful land i ask myself,what am i doing here in this damn winter???then i remember oh..,few greedy A$$holes.

 

[Jobjob2]

Picha zinaonekana bana. Tanzania ni zaidi ya uijuavyo!!

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

7.-(I) For the purposes of this Act,
hazardous land is land the development
of which is likely to pose a danger to e
or to lead to the degradation of or
environmental destruction on that or
contiguous land and includes but is not
Declaration of
hazardous land
limited to-
(a) mangrove swamps and
coral reefs;
(b) wetlands and offshore
islands;
(C) land designated or used for
the dumping of hazardous
waste;
(d) land within sixty metres of
a river bank, shoreline of an
-inland lake, beach or coast;
(e) land on slopes with a
gradient exceeding any
angle which the Minister
shall, after taking account
of proper scientific advice,
specify;
52
No. 4 Land 1999
(f) land specified by the
appropriate authority as
land which should not be
developed on account of its
fragile nature or of its
environmental significance.

 

[Bumela]

Kuna umuhimu wa kuijua vema nchi yetu kiutawala, kisiasa, kiuchumi na kijamii ili tuweze kuijadilii kwa upeooo...

Kwa hili ningelalama na nitalalama tuu pamoja na mabadilko yotee ya kisheria yaliyofanya kuhalalisha matumizii hayooo..

Ila Mzee Mwinyi mbona mapungufu ya utawala wake yalishapitaa kwani hulka yake hairuhusuu tumlaumu sana sisi wa kupenda mambo mepesii mepesiii!! Afterall yeye ni wasaidizi wake ndo wenye makosa lakini BM Ule ujeuri na ujasiri wake yeye ndo tutajitahidii KUMLAUMUUU...

Hapo naona unajambo ambalo limejificha mkuu lawama kwa mmoja hata makosa ya mwingine?Nchi hii ina sheria mzee mmoja akisaini mwingine anaendeleza.

 

[Kinyambiss]

Ndugu Kinyambiss
Sidhani kama wewe ni mtanzania ungekuwa mtanzania halisi au mzawa usingesema maneno hayo unatetea wahindi kwa vile watatujengea sehemu ya kuenjoy ufukweni nani alikwambia tatizo la watanzania ni kuenjoy ufukweni eti bora wajenge ili uweze kupita mtaani kwako kwa vile eneo hilo lina vibaka wengi nonsense and hopeless thinking

Watu tunajadili matumizi ya aridhi ya nchi yetu wewe unasema ni low objectivity sasa unataka tujadili maeneo ya nchi gani kama wewe una uraia wa nchi mbili mimi bado naipenda nchi yangu na ardhi yangu

Ndani ya CCM si wote wana akili za panzi kuna siku atatokea kiongozi mzalendo kichaa awe CCM sawa atokee Upinzani sawa atatuongoza kudai chetu na hao wahindi wako unaosema wameuziwa watairudisha hiyo ardhi huku wakisaga meno

Nyerere 1967 alipotaifisha majengo ya wahindi alitokea chama hicho hicho tawala nakumbuka wahindi walikimbia na kuyaacha kuna mchangiaji mmoja kasema tuwaache watujengee kwanza

Its sad that I have been misunderstood. I raised questions as to the validity of the claim that the plots have been 'sold' as the topic has maintained. Secondary to that, I was reasoning on the likelihood that the plots will be leased by the City in some kind of investment scheme (at least officially) although the economic merits of such an action are scarce at best. This of course raises the alarm for the Higgs Boson effect whose influence we feel as bad decisions taken by those in authority, aka corruption. But since everyone here flies under the banner of corruption, at times because condemnation is apparently the solution (not that I am defending anyone, infact for the record I despise corrupt practices..) but I wanted to consider the issue from another angle.

After all if it is legal for this to happen, a lease and there are mechanisms to ensure the environment is protected, the revenue is substantial, and the ownership of the property remains with the state with no prospect of transfer and that the tendering processes are kept transparent (sio makampuni yakihindi tu yanapata) then it might not be such a terrible thing. But then again, knowing Tanzania, irregularities are common place and it is obvious that from this comes all the condemnation and disgust that we see here.

I reiterate that my motive was to consider the matter in a slightly different angle than that which is customary on this forum. There is no point of a forum if its members cannot even get themselves to consider complex issues with an ounce of objectivity. The minute I try this I am called a traitor, eti sio "mtanzania". As though being emotional is the solution.lol

Anyway, I understand the feelings and to a great extent feel the same myself. I just wish the legal, procedural, environmental and economic angles could be considered so that the issue and potential subsequent impact may be known, regardless of whether it is positive or negative in aggregate. JF needs to learn to have informed opinions, not just emotional outbursts and subjective views.

This would empower the issues discussed in JF so that it could become an authority, a think tank, rather than the current image that it is a meeting place for raving lunatics, skeptical observers, people with agendas and those surveilling the above class. Perhaps I am wrong about the intentions of the founders of this organ, but logic would dictate that it is high time it somehow evolved to solidify its position as a free market for thought and information, rather than the realm of decaying objective thought.

Oh! and, can someone find out whether the plots have been sold please?

Thank you.

 

[Kinyambiss]

7.-(I) For the purposes of this Act,
hazardous land is land the development
of which is likely to pose a danger to e
or to lead to the degradation of or
environmental destruction on that or
contiguous land and includes but is not
Declaration of
hazardous land
limited to-
(a) mangrove swamps and
coral reefs;
(b) wetlands and offshore
islands;
(C) land designated or used for
the dumping of hazardous
waste;
(d) land within sixty metres of
a river bank, shoreline of an
-inland lake, beach or coast;
(e) land on slopes with a
gradient exceeding any
angle which the Minister
shall, after taking account
of proper scientific advice,
specify;
52
No. 4 Land 1999
(f) land specified by the
appropriate authority as
land which should not be
developed on account of its
fragile nature or of its
environmental significance.

This is what I am talking about. Inabidi kwakweli media iexpose this thing. Waliofanya maamuzi haya wawajibishwe (kwasababu wamevujna multiple legislation) na haya maamuzi ya kuuza ama kukodisha yafutwe kwasababu ni kinyume na sheria. Simplez! Political Pressure.. Wananchi hilo tunaweza.


Kinyambiss for President 2020. We can fix all this..

 

[Bumela]

This is really disheartening. So sad. No decency at all? Most of Dar-es Salaam is already an eyesore. Now even the little remaining paradise is being raped!

I wonder if the late Mwalimu had any inkling of the pervasiveness of the dogs within when, in 1995, he joined the CCM campaign trail prompted by the fear of letting the country go to the dogs.

Hapa mzee sio " country to the Dogs" but " country to dogs"

 

[Interested Observer]

Its sad that I have been misunderstood. I raised questions as to the validity of the claim that the plots have been 'sold' as the topic has maintained. Secondary to that, I was reasoning on the likelihood that the plots will be leased by the City in some kind of investment scheme (at least officially) although the economic merits of such an action are scarce at best. This of course raises the alarm for the Higgs Boson effect whose influence we feel as bad decisions taken by those in authority, aka corruption. But since everyone here flies under the banner of corruption, at times because condemnation is apparently the solution (not that I am defending anyone, infact for the record I despise corrupt practices..) but I wanted to consider the issue from another angle.

After all if it is legal for this to happen, a lease and there are mechanisms to ensure the environment is protected, the revenue is substantial, and the ownership of the property remains with the state with no prospect of transfer and that the tendering processes are kept transparent (sio makampuni yakihindi tu yanapata) then it might not be such a terrible thing. But then again, knowing Tanzania, irregularities are common place and it is obvious that from this comes all the condemnation and disgust that we see here.

I reiterate that my motive was to consider the matter in a slightly different angle than that which is customary on this forum. There is no point of a forum if its members cannot even get themselves to consider complex issues with an ounce of objectivity. The minute I try this I am called a traitor, eti sio "mtanzania". As though being emotional is the solution.lol

Anyway, I understand the feelings and to a great extent feel the same myself. I just wish the legal, procedural, environmental and economic angles could be considered so that the issue and potential subsequent impact may be known, regardless of whether it is positive or negative in aggregate. JF needs to learn to have informed opinions, not just emotional outbursts and subjective views.

This would empower the issues discussed in JF so that it could become an authority, a think tank, rather than the current image that it is a meeting place for raving lunatics, skeptical observers, people with agendas and those surveilling the above class. Perhaps I am wrong about the intentions of the founders of this organ, but logic would dictate that it is high time it somehow evolved to solidify its position as a free market for thought and information, rather than the realm of decaying objective thought.

Oh! and, can someone find out whether the plots have been sold please?

Thank you.

And then read this, written by yourself:

Ubaya wa hizi internet new forms of media kama JF ni kwamba hakuna uwajibikaji wa kiasi kinachotakiwa kwajili ya uandishi wa habari ulio ethical and objectivity is non-existent. Ulianzisha thread umekuwa kama Michael Moore, mwishoe no one will take you seriously. Hizi plot ziko chini ya Manispaa na wao wametoa lease kwa watu watakao wekeza kwenye non-permanent forms za businesses on the front, after EIA zikifanyika ili kujua jinsi yakucontrol pollution of the area. Watajenga non-permanent features za kimakuti makuti... sio on a sea cliff level tho. The aim is to provide entertainment ya drive in cinema na food areas na vitu kama hivyo kwaajili ya watu kuenjoy ufukwe. Sijui kama utekelezaji utakuwa kama ilivyosemwa, perhaps not, lakini naomba tuwe objective. This is very low objectivity, kama tupo Venezuela bwana au Saddam's Iraq.lol

Najua of course this area wahindi wamemezea mate muda mrefu, ni hawa wahindi wa cinemax wamepewa amongst a few others as far as I know. Najua lazima rushwa imetembea lakini kuna employment itatokana na haya. The only major thing is that, mazingira yasiharibiwe thats all. That area kunavibaka, ni mtaa yetu wengine tunapajua vizuri. Bora watu wapate ajira bwana. Kwani kitu gani.

 

[Tusker Bariiiidi]

NANI KAUZIWA?du kwa hali hiii no comment

"The Kinondoni Municipality has dished out the1.8 kilomitres beach to;
1. SEA BREEZE AND DRIVE IN CINEMA LTD.
2. COMMODITY TRADERS LTD.
3. WELLWORTH HOTEL AND LODGES.
4. PROFFESIONAL CLEANERS.
5. RED&BLACK ENTERPRISES.
6. CENTRALLY CINEMAX
and their aim is to create what are called ''RECREATIONAL FACILITIES" its five years temporary structures "Ha ha ha haaa temporary... did you notice used tires on one of Mwanakijiji post Ha ha ha KIGUMU CHAMA CHA MAPINDUZI.... "

 

[Bumela]

Its sad that I have been misunderstood. I raised questions as to the validity of the claim that the plots have been 'sold' as the topic has maintained. Secondary to that, I was reasoning on the likelihood that the plots will be leased by the City in some kind of investment scheme (at least officially) although the economic merits of such an action are scarce at best. This of course raises the alarm for the Higgs Boson effect whose influence we feel as bad decisions taken by those in authority, aka corruption. But since everyone here flies under the banner of corruption, at times because condemnation is apparently the solution (not that I am defending anyone, infact for the record I despise corrupt practices..) but I wanted to consider the issue from another angle.

After all if it is legal for this to happen, a lease and there are mechanisms to ensure the environment is protected, the revenue is substantial, and the ownership of the property remains with the state with no prospect of transfer and that the tendering processes are kept transparent (sio makampuni yakihindi tu yanapata) then it might not be such a terrible thing. But then again, knowing Tanzania, irregularities are common place and it is obvious that from this comes all the condemnation and disgust that we see here.

I reiterate that my motive was to consider the matter in a slightly different angle than that which is customary on this forum. There is no point of a forum if its members cannot even get themselves to consider complex issues with an ounce of objectivity. The minute I try this I am called a traitor, eti sio "mtanzania". As though being emotional is the solution.lol

Anyway, I understand the feelings and to a great extent feel the same myself. I just wish the legal, procedural, environmental and economic angles could be considered so that the issue and potential subsequent impact may be known, regardless of whether it is positive or negative in aggregate. JF needs to learn to have informed opinions, not just emotional outbursts and subjective views.

This would empower the issues discussed in JF so that it could become an authority, a think tank, rather than the current image that it is a meeting place for raving lunatics, skeptical observers, people with agendas and those surveilling the above class. Perhaps I am wrong about the intentions of the founders of this organ, but logic would dictate that it is high time it somehow evolved to solidify its position as a free market for thought and information, rather than the realm of decaying objective thought.

Oh! and, can someone find out whether the plots have been sold please?

Thank you.

As you have said, thats why it is a forum, also do not think that whatever you write on whatever basis people will agree with you, there must be a challenge.So do not make your thought heavenly, when you put forward your thought expect negative and positive atitudes on it.Therefore to -ve atitudes make sure that you look for other more convincing words to make them understand thats all about with this game.If you are challenged and you tend to lose control then you are not fit for the forum better look for religious forum where we talk fixed things because they are written and no one will chenge them.

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Do we know who are the owners of these companies?

1. SEA BREEZE AND DRIVE IN CINEMA LTD.
2. COMMODITY TRADERS LTD.
3. WELLWORTH HOTEL AND LODGES.
4. PROFFESIONAL CLEANERS.
5. RED&BLACK ENTERPRISES.
6. CENTRALLY CINEMAX

 

[Joste]

Mimi nimeziona! they are shocking!

 

[John Mnyika]

"The Kinondoni Municipality has dished out the1.8 kilomitres beach to;
1. SEA BREEZE AND DRIVE IN CINEMA LTD.
2. COMMODITY TRADERS LTD.
3. WELLWORTH HOTEL AND LODGES.
4. PROFFESIONAL CLEANERS.
5. RED&BLACK ENTERPRISES.
6. CENTRALLY CINEMAX
and their aim is to create what are called ''RECREATIONAL FACILITIES" its five years temporary structures "Ha ha ha haaa temporary... did you notice used tires on one of Mwanakijiji post Ha ha ha KIGUMU CHAMA CHA MAPINDUZI.... "

Wakuu, nani mmiliki wa haya makampuni? Manispaa ya Kinondoni ilitoa lini kwa mchakato upi? Kuna mwenye kujua tarehe ya kikao cha full council ambacho kilijadili suala hili?

Kama nilivyotoa kauli yangu juzi na kwa sehemu imenukuliwa leo na Tanzania Daima kwenye habari hapa: http://www.freemedia.co.tz/daima/habari.php?id=12797 haya ndio mambo ambayo binafsi nilitaraji rais ayatolee kauli kwenye ziara yake ya Mkoa.

Hususani ile Ripoti ya kamati ya Siasa ya CCM wilaya kuhusu mpasuko wa madiwani, ubadhirifu wa mali ya umma, uuzaji wa viwanja, tuhuma za ufisadi dhidi ya Londa nk. Mule kuna tuhuma ya kuhongwa kuhusiana na ufukwe. Makamba ameipiga sana danadana hii ripoti, wakati umefika sasa itoke kwenye mikono ya CCM irudi kwa wenye mali ambao ni umma wa watanzania

JJ

 

[Eliphaz the Temanite]

Waacheni watujengee, gharama za ujenzi siku hizi ni kubwa mno. Wakishamaliza kujenga na sisi wananchi tukajiridhisha kuwa jenzi zote zimekamilika ndipo unafika wakati wa kutwaa kilicho chetu. Muda wa kuendelea kuwa wavumilivu unaelekea ukingoni, NI MUDA TU NDO UTAELEZA.

Hiyo haipo! There are two things involved you either die or rot in jail!

 

[Kafara]

kisha kuna watu wanaamini "wazee wa busara" wa ccm wamependekeza
kufukuzwa kina chenge katika chama?! thubutu!!

 

[Saint Ivuga]

CHAMA cha Demokrasia na Maendeleo (CHADEMA), kimemtaka Rais Jakaya Kikwete kueleza utekelezaji wa ahadi zake kwa wananchi wa Kinondoni. Akizungumza na Tanzania Daima Dar es Salaam, juzi, Kaimu Katibu Mkuu wa CHADEMA, John Mnyika, alisema ziara ya Rais Kikwete, itasaidia kutoa ufafanuzi wa ahadi alizozitoa mwaka 2005 wakati wa kampeni na mwaka 2006 alipozungumza na Halmashauri ya Kinondoni.
Kaimu katibu huyo alisema moja ya ahadi zilizotolewa ni utatuzi wa kero ya maji kwa wakazi wa Ubungo na Kinondoni, lakini hadi sasa kata mbalimbali za majimbo ya wilaya hiyo hazijapata huduma ya maji.
"Rais Kikwete alisema atamaliza tatizo la maji kwa wakazi wa majimbo ya Ubungo na Kinondoni lakini hadi sasa zipo baadhi ya kata kama Goba, Mburahati, Kimara, Mbezi Luisi na nyinginezo hazina huduma ya maji.
"Kama vile haitoshi rais aliahidi kumaliza tatizo la migogoro ya ardhi ikiwemo kurudisha viwanja vya wazi vilivyouzwa kinyemela lakini hali ile badi iko vilevile!" alishangaa Mnyika na kuongeza kwamba migogoro ya ardhi imeongezeka huku akitolea mfano uuzwaji wa eneo la ufukwe wa Coco
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http://www.freemedia.co.tz/daima/habari.php?id=12797

 

[Joel]

Mungu Ibariki AFRIKA MUNGU IBARIKI TANZANIA, MUNGU WAANGAMIZE HAWA VIONGOZI WASIOJALI WANANCHI WA TANZANIA. Wote tuseme Ameeeeeeeeenn.