DECI Tanzania: Ilivyoanza, ilipo na hatma yake

[Mwanaukweli]

Naona tuangalie sheria zinazoongoza mambo haya:

Sheria inayoongoza makampuni yanayopokea fedha za watu na kuzalisha ni

Capital Markets And Securities Act [PRINCIPAL LEGISLATION]Acts Nos.5 of 1994
PART XI COLLECTIVE INVESTMENT SCHEMES (ss 115-129)​

115. Authorisation and regulation of schemes
1. The Authority may authorise collective investment schemes for the purposes of this Part.
2. Any such authorisation may be granted subject to such terms and conditions as the Authority considers to be necessary or desirable for the protection of investors.
3. The Minister may make regulations for or with respect to–

a) the criteria for and conditions of any authorisation for the purposes of this Part;
b) the establishment and operation of a collective investment scheme;
c) the promotion, marketing and distribution of shares, units or other securities representing the rights or interests of participants in a collective investment scheme;
d) the administration of collective investment schemes;
e) the provisions by any body corporate or individual of trustee, custodial and related services, or any other services, for or in connection with collective investment schemes,​

4. Without limiting the generality of subsection (3), regulations made for the purposes of that subsection with respect to any aspect of or matter concerning a collective investment scheme may be made to differ according to whether the scheme is operated by a unit trust or by an open-ended investment company or another kind of investment company.
5. A person who enters into or offers to enter into any agreement for or with a view to acquiring, disposing of or subscribing for any shares units or other securities representing an interest in a collective investment scheme that is not authorised under this Part, shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding one million shillings or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years or to both.

116. Restriction of promotion
A person who–

a) issue or causes to be issued any advertisement or invitation inviting persons to become or offer to become participants in a collective investment scheme that is not authorised under this Part or containing information calculated to lead directly or indirectly to persons becoming or offering to become participants in such a scheme; or
b) advises or procures any person to become or offer to become a participant in such a scheme; shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding one million shillings or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years or both.​

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117. Authorised collective investment scheme No person shall set up or manage any collective investment scheme in Tanzania unless–

a) the scheme is authorised by the Authority; and
b) the manager and trustee/custodian of the scheme are–

i. authorised by the Authority, upon application made in writing to act as manager or trustee/custodian, regard being had to their financial standing, their knowledge and experience of investment business and their honesty and integrity;
ii. corporate bodies designated as such in the scheme; and
iii. independent of each other.​

118. Application to operate a collective investment scheme
1. Every person who proposes to set up or operate a collective investment scheme in Tanzania shall make an application to the Authority.
2. No application shall be made by any person unless he is the Manager or trustee or custodian or the proposed manager or trustee or custodian of the scheme.
3. Every application shall be made in such form and contain such information as the Authority may determine or as may be prescribed.
4. Authority may–

a) call for such additional information as it may require for any purpose under this Part; and
b) direct that any information supplied shall be verified in such manner as it may require​

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128. Submission of reports
(1) The Manager shall submit an annual report of a collective investment scheme to the Authority within three months of the closing of accounts in every year and such other periodic information, returns and reports as may be prescribed.
(2) The Annual Report shall contain the following–

(a) the manager's investment report;
(b) a statement of assets and liabilities;
(c) a statement of income and distribution;
(d) a copy of the auditor's report on the accounts of the scheme; and
(e) such other particulars as the Minister may prescribe.​

(3) Without prejudice to subsection (1), the Manager and Custodian of a collective investment scheme shall furnish to the Authority such periodic reports, returns and information on the activities and operations of the scheme as may be prescribed.

129. Offences Subject to sections 115 and 116 any person who contravenes any provisions of this Part or any regulation made under it shall commit an offence and shall, on conviction be liable to a fine not exceeding five hundred thousand shillings and to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or both the fine and imprisonment.

Angalia vema sehemu zenye rangi tofauti.

Kama nchi yetu ni ya utawala wa sheria, tukubali ituongoze. Lakini tuelimike juu ya hatari za PONZI scheme kama zilivyofafanuliwa vizuri katika thread hii.

Mwaka 1997 Zilitolewa regulations za Collective Investment Schemes.
Naweka attachment yake hapa ya pdf.

 

[Zak Malang]

Mimi kwa mtazamo wangu, naona serikali inasita ku-move against this gang kwa sababu tu imejikita kwenye dini. La sivyo nadhani tayari wangesha tiwa mbaroni, na it will be interesting kuona how it is going to do that.

Katika miaka ya 90, jamaa mmoja aitwae Stephen Kakete alikuwa anaendesha mchezo wa aina hiyo (nimesahao jina la taasisi yake) na alitiwa mbaroni ne kushitakiwa. Nimesahau kesi yake iliisha vipi. Sheria hazijabadilika.

 

[Mwanaukweli]

Mimi kwa mtazamo wangu, naona serikali inasita ku-move against this gang kwa sababu tu imejikita kwenye dini. La sivyo nadhani tayari wangesha tiwa mbaroni, na it will be interesting kuona how it is going to do that.

Katika miaka ya 90, jamaa mmoja aitwae Stephen Kakete alikuwa anaendesha mchezo wa aina hiyo (nimesahao jina la taasisi yake) na alitiwa mbaroni ne kushitakiwa. Nimesahau kesi yake iliisha vipi. Sheria hazijabadilika.

Dollarjet? au mwingine?

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Mimi kwa mtazamo wangu, naona serikali inasita ku-move against this gang kwa sababu tu imejikita kwenye dini. La sivyo nadhani tayari wangesha tiwa mbaroni, na it will be interesting kuona how it is going to do that.

Katika miaka ya 90, jamaa mmoja aitwae Stephen Kakete alikuwa anaendesha mchezo wa aina hiyo (nimesahao jina la taasisi yake) na alitiwa mbaroni ne kushitakiwa. Nimesahau kesi yake iliisha vipi. Sheria hazijabadilika.

Zak Malang.. sidhani ni suala la dini.. bali ni suala la timing. Kama serikali haijipendi iamue kuwakamata kwa pupa na kuwatia mbaroni.. itasababisha catastrophic collapse of the scheme. Unachofanya in this case is what is known as controlled demolition.. ili jengo linapoanguka basi lisilete madhara makubwa kwa majengo yaliyojirani.

Basically what should happen is implosion of some sort not an explosion.

 

[Game Theory]

naona kila mtu kanuanua DAR LEO jioni hii

assumption yangu ni kuwa wafanyakazi wengi wa DAR LEO lazima walikuwa ni members wa DECI kwa sababu insight yao inatisha kwenye hili gazeti

 

[Kaduguda]

naona kila mtu kanuanua DAR LEO jioni hii

assumption yangu ni kuwa wafanyakazi wengi wa DAR LEO lazima walikuwa ni members wa DECI kwa sababu insight yao inatisha kwenye hili gazeti

Hebu tuhabarisheni wakuu maana wengine huku DAR LEO ni ndoto kulipata kwa sababu za kijiografia.

Na kama kuna mwenye taarifa kamili au walao dondoo za kikao cha maaskofu wa PCT tafadhali na atujuvye nini kimeamuliwa huko kuhusu DECI!

 

[Shaycas]

I'm not commenting on Deci B'se after some had plant and harvest is the time now for Deci to harvest.How deci is going to harvest without cry for those who had plant is never That's why they started to show and threating their members via BOT in order for them to be at safe side while the Gvt is under fire for the same saga.

I am saying so B'se it is un becoming for Deci to operate for more than three years without being closed or Else

 

[Kang]

Hebu tuhabarisheni wakuu maana wengine huku DAR LEO ni ndoto kulipata kwa sababu za kijiografia.

Na kama kuna mwenye taarifa kamili au walao dondoo za kikao cha maaskofu wa PCT tafadhali na atujuvye nini kimeamuliwa huko kuhusu DECI!

Asasi ya kidini inayojihusisha na kuweka na kukopa ya Development Enterpreneurs hip Community Initiative -DECI), imeazimia kulifikisha sakata lake mbele ya Rais wa Jamuhuri ya Muungano wa Tanzania Jakaya Mrisho Kikwete.

Maazimio hayo yamefikiwa katika mkuto mkubwa uliofanyika leo katika ukumbi wa PTA, uliopo katika Viwanja vya maonesho ya biashara vya Mwalimu Nyerere Sabasaba Jijini Dar es Salaam na kuhudhuriwa na maelfu ya wanachama wake, viongozi na wajumbe.

Katika waraka huo, DECI, inaelezea kuwa na hofu ya kuwepo hujuma kubwa inayofanywa na baadhi ya watu wenye fedha kuihujumu asasi hiyo iuliwe isiweze kusajiliwa kisheria.

Tayari asasi hiyo imeandika waraka wake kwenda kwa Rais Kikwete na kusambaza nakala kwa Spika wa Bunge, Gavana wa Benki Kuu ya Tanzania (BOT) na Baraza la Kanisa la Pentekoste Tanzania, ambapo waraka huo umesainiwa na Askofu Bartholomeu Shegga (PCT), Mchungaji Bernard Kungunde na Askofu David Mwaipopo ambaye ni Katibu Mkuu wa PCT Taifa.

From Global Publishers - Tanzania Newspapers kuna picha kadhaa!

 

[Manta]

DECI in pyramid scheme, imepambwa na jina la kidini kuweka matumaini, mwisho wa mchenzo mwanzishaji na wachache waliojiungwa mwanzoni wamafaidika.

Pyramid scheme

Pyramid schemes are one of the commonest types of investment scam.

The basis of a pyramid scheme is that victims:

pay to participate in the scheme and, are promised a reward for recruiting further "investors" into the scheme. As with a Ponzi scheme, this means that early investors often make large profits. However as the scheme needs more and more "investors" to keep joining, it is inevitable that will eventually run out of people willing to join. The result is the that the promoter makes are large profit, people who join early also make profits, and those who join later lose their "investments".

Consider an example to see how it works:

The promoter of a pyramid scheme starts by recruiting a hundred people and charges each of them £100 to join. Each person joining is promised £500 for every 10 people they recruit into the scheme.

All of the first hundred then manage to recruit 10 new members each. At this point the promoter of the scheme has collected £110,000 in fees and paid out £5,000.

The 1,000 investors in the second wave also get 10 recruits each. The promoter has now collected £1,110,000 and paid out £55,000.

The 10,000 investors in the third wave recruit their 10,000, the 100,000 in the fourth wave recruit a million, and the million in the fifth wave recruit 10 million.

With 10 million people trying to recruit new members it becomes very hard to recruit more. The scheme ends here.

At this point the promoter has made £1.1bn and paid out £500m. 1.1m people have made a £400 profit each and 10m will have lost £100 each.

If the 10 million in the sixth wave manage to get some new recruits the promoter will get yet more money, but as few of them are likely to manage to get the 10 required to get the £500, the promoter is likely to pay out little of this extra money.

A lot of money has moved around, but the net result is that the promoter of the scheme gains and most of the "investors" lose. Investing in a pyramid scheme is very similar to gambling, with the promoter playing the part of the bookmaker.

Schemes are likely to be shut down by the authorities long before they get this big. There are cases of pyramid schemes getting big enough to threaten national economies, as in Albania in the 1990s.

Promoters of pyramid schemes are usually very good at disguising their nature. There is a good description of their sales tactics on Quantloos' introduction multi-level marketing scams page. One of the commonest tricks is to claim that a pyramid scheme is a "multi-level marketing" scheme. Another is to use a more complicated scheme than the simple pyramid described above and claim that it is therefore not a pyramid scheme. As a general rule:
If you have to recruit people into the scheme to make a profit, it is definitely a pyramid scheme.

If it is marketing scheme that involves recruiting people to sell goods at above normal market prices, it is almost certainly a pyramid scheme (sound like GNLD marketing system is a Pyramid scheme)

If a substantial part of the income it promises comes from recruiting new people into the scheme, it is probably a pyramid scheme.

If there are any rewards for recruiting people into the scheme, look at it in detail, and check with regulators (the FSA in the UK) if you are unsure.

The last step is always a precaution worth taking with any investment that looks suspicious or offers rewards that look to good to be true - there is nothing to be lost by checking.

 

[Kite Munganga]

I love this

Have a look at this one, DECI might be another version of this one!!!!


If anyone has difficulty understanding the current world financial situation, the following should help....


Once upon a time in a village in Thailand , a man announced to the villagers that he would buy monkeys for $10.

The villagers seeing there were many monkeys around, went out to the forest and started catching them.
The man bought thousands at $10, but, as the supply started to diminish, the villagers stopped their efforts. The man further announced that he would now buy at $20. This renewed the efforts of the villagers and they started catching monkeys again.

Soon the supply diminished even further and people started going back to their farms. The offer rate increased to $25 and the supply of monkeys became so little that it was an effort to even see a monkey, let alone catch it!

The man now announced that he would buy monkeys at $50! However, since he had to go to the city on some business, his assistant would now act as buyer, on his behalf.

In the absence of the man, the assistant told the villagers: 'Look at all these monkeys in the big cage that the man has collected. I will sell them to you at $35 and when he returns from the city, you can sell them back to him for $50.'

The villagers squeezed together their savings and bought all the monkeys.

Then they never saw the man or his assistant again, only monkeys everywhere! Welcome to WALL STREET.

PS:You're allowed to circulate this one

 

[Mtanganyika]

Muda fulani mwaka jana nilimpigia simu mama yangu, katika maongozi aliniambia kuhusu hii DECI, kwamba unaweza kupanda kiasi fulani na kuvuna kiasi fulani ndani ya muda fulani. Nikamuomba aenda akachukue information kamili kisha aje aniambie ni nini hasa hii DECI, kutokana na elimu niliyonayo (Finance) pindi nilipoongea nae tena haikunichukua hata one minute nikajua kwamba DECI=Ponzi scheme.

Nilimuonya asiweke pesa kwenye huo mchezo, lakini kwa bahati mbaya wakati ananiambia alikuwa ashaweka kiasi kikubwa tuu cha fedha... Tulikubaliana kwamba akivuna iwe mwisho. Nilimwambia kwamba kabla hujawekeza pesa zako kwenye chombo chochote kile ambacho sio bank, nilizima ufahamu kwamba na wao wanawekeza wapi. alipokwenda kuwauliza walimdanganya kwamba wanaikopesha Bank Kuu, nilimweza ya kwamba BoT wanakopa kutoka kwa wanchi kwa kutumia mfumo wa treasure bond ambao unatoa interest relative na zile za mabank, so kusema wanaikopesha BoT ni uongo.

Kwa kutazama hakuna faida ya 300% ambayo inaweza kulast kwa muda mrefu, kinachotokea ni kwamba ili wao wafinance huo mchezo wao wataitaji watu waongezeke, lakini mwisho mfumo mzima utacollapse. Kwa wale wakufunzi wa Finance tutakubaliana ya kwamba kwenye market yoyote hakuna abnormal profit, na sababu huu mfumo unaendeshwa na demand and supply then all theory proves kwamba at the end of the day inge collapse. Haya mambo yametokea sana China.


Baada ya hapo nilianza kuhoji uwepo wa hii organization, nikaambiwa kwamba ipo tangu mwanzoni mwa mwaka 2000. Swali langu ni kwa usalama wa Taifa, jee usalama wapo wapi? Jee kitu kama hiki hakitishii Micro economic? Na kama kinatishia uchumi wa wananchi, jee kuna njia gani mbadala walitumia......?
Kwa nini Bank kuu ndio wawe waamuzi?

 

[Manitoba]

ya jamaa wa uslama iko poa na namjua mtu last week alipata 3million baada ya kuingiza 6 million

na yenyewe huingii hivi hivi lakini mpaka hohe hahe kama mimi nishaletewa basi sidhani kama itakuwa na tatizo...unajua hizi Ponzi schemes huwa ziningia nyani pale wateja walionazo wanapoanza kupungua

DECI walichemsha kuambia watu waandike basua za sababu ya kutaka kutoa pesa zao

Kuna ponzi scheme ya aina hiyo iliyo poa? Nakubaliana na wewe kwamba "Ponzi schemes huwa ziningia nyani pale wateja walionazo wanapoanza kupungua". Tatizo ni kwamba (na ndio ambacho Mwanakijiji ameweza kuonyesha) wateja lazima wapungue. Kwa hiyo, kwa kutumia statement yako counter positively, lazima zitaingia nyani kwa sababu wateja lazima wapungue.

Sikiliza mjomba mji huu kila mmoja ana EPA yake,sema wengine zao ni kubwa kubwa ndio tofauti...the same applies to these Ponzi schemes aka UPATU.

Mimi huo mchongo wa DECI nililetewa sometimes mwaka jana lakini kila nilipodadisi naona nilikuwa napewa majibu vague vague tuuu mfano wanadai wao walijiandikisha kama micro-credit/finance lakini cha ajabu hakuna mtu hata mmoja ninaye mkua including yule jamaa liyelenitea hilo dili

Pili element ya kutoa pesa zangu mwenyewe naambiwa niandike barua ya kujieleza na kama nikishazitoa basi siwezi kurudi tena nikaona ahyaaaaa hivi nililala wapi wakati hawa jamaa all the way from Kenya wameingia?

Sadakta! Wanasema wajinga ndio waliwao ... bahati mbaya huku tunao wengi. Very sad fact ...

On a flipside ya jamaa wa usalama imetulia lakini nayo ni hatari kwa sababu kama TISS wana recruit watu wa ajabu ajabu dizaini ile ni kazi kweli kweli kwa sababu inamaana leo wanaanza na ponzi schemes ndogo kama zilde kesho wakija waNyaRwanda kutaka info za kiusalama basi sidhani kama kutakuwa na tatizo maana shida ni pesa ...

Sijui ni kimekushawishi uone kwamba hiyo ya jamaa wa usalama wa taifa imetulia. Scheme za aina hii lazima zianguke. Haijalishi ni nani anaendesha, awe ni askofu, baba wa taifa au mkuu wa usalama wa taifa mwenyewe. As long as fedha zinazungushwa kati ya members tu, na watu wanapewa faida, lazima inanguke.

Ila UPATU ninaojua mimi, ambao watu wanapeana pesa kwa mzunguko, unaweza usianguke. Na sababu pekee ya kuanguka kwake ni kukosa uaminifu kati washiriki (mfano mshiriki akaingia mtini na fedha). Mtu hatimaye anapata fedha kiasi kile kile alichokieka.

Hizo scheme nyingine tatizo lake ni lingine kabisa. Ni kwamba hata kama kila mshriki ni mwaminifu, na kila mshiriki ana nia njema kabisa ya kuondoa umasikini wake na wawengine, lazima zianguke.

Na in this case kitu ninachokiona ni kwamba inawezekana kabisa wanaoendesha mchezo huu wana nia njema kabisa, na nia safi kabisa. Na kwa jinsi wanavyoona wao inafanya kazi vizuri tu kabisa: watu wanaondokana na umasikini, wanatoa ajira, etc. Sema tu pengine uwezo wao wa kuona hizo faida wanazotengeneza zinatoka wapi ni mdogo. Usishangae unapowauna wanawashangaa nyie wengine wote, na kwa ukweli kabisa hawaelewi kwa nini serikali inaingilia kati. Kwa wanaona wanaonewa tu.

Kama una population yenye watu wanaoweza kuamini mkono wa albino utakupa utajiri bila hata kupewa na uthibitisho, unategeme wasiwepo wanaoamni kwamba ukiweka fedha yako DECI umasikini basi, na huku wanaona majirani zao wakivuna pia?

 

[Fidel80]

Acheni watu wale wanacho panda na wavune walicho panda.

 

[Manitoba]

Mimi kuna ndugu yangu alikuwa ananishawishi sana niingie DECI early last year. Na nilitumia sessions kibao tu kujaribu kumuelewesha nini kinaendelea. Nilitaka sana aelewe kinachoendelea ili afanye akiwa anajua matokeo yake kwake yeye na wengine. Lakini ni kama ilikuwa inaingia kwenye sikio moja inatokea kwenye sikio la pili.

Baadaye akasema kama mimi sitaki nimuazime yeye fedha aongeze "mbegu" yake. Nikamuazima huku nikijaribu kumsisitizia kitakachotekea ili asije akanilaumi nitakapomng'ang'ania koo arudishe fedha yangu.

Sasa naona mda tuliopangiana wa kurudisha umeshapita kama mwezi hivi, na sijamwambia kitu bado. Na hisi kilichotokea ni kwamba baada ya kuvuna-vuna, badala ya kuniletea fedha yangu yeye aendelee kuvuna, tamaa ikamuingia akazirudishia kuongeza "mbegu".

Sasa naona wakati mzuri wakuomba fedha yangu irudishwe unakaribia. Naona I have a moral obligation kuhakikisha kwamba anairudisha hata kama itabidi auze makochi, la sivyo ntakuwa sijamsaidia kujifunza. 🙂

Sasa ni mda wa kuvaa roho ya paka ...

 

[taffu69]

Kwa issue ya DECI naona wengi wamelogwa na hakuna mganga wa kutoa tiba. Wengi wameshanasa kwenye huu mtego na namna ya kujinasua naona haipo. Namkumbuka yule mchungaji mmoja alisema DECI imefanya ndoa nyingi kuimarika lakini kwa mtizamo wa haraka naona sasa inafikia mahali DECI itaparaganyisha ndoa pamoja na familia nyingi.

Inasikitisha sana kila aliyenaswa ukimshauri anakuwa mkali kama chui na waliopandikizwa huo uongo wanakuwa kama mbwa aliyemuona chatu kwani badala ya kukimbia unamkuta mbwa huyo kalegea huku akijipeleka mwenyewe kwenye kinywa cha chatu. Watakapong'amua itakuwa ni kilio na kusaga meno.

 

[Nungunungu]

Mwanakijiji,

Tunaweza kufanya nini hii makala ya DECI kwenye cheche iwafikie watanzania wengi?

Huwezi kuwasiliana / kuituma kwa baadhi ya magazeti hapa nchini waichapishe? Naamini kwa njia hiyo itawaelimisha wengi zaidi.

 

[Kidzogolae]

Tumekuwa tukijadili sana humu ndani, mtaani ndo imejaa hii kitu inaitwa deci. nimesikiliza sana Radio za kikristo hasa za kilokole kama vile Praise power radio na wapo radio. hizi ni radio za kilokole za lwakatale na gamanywa. Nimenote kitu kimoja ambacho hakina ubushi, Deci ina connection kubwa sana na dini, hivyo selikali iwe macho, isikurupuke tu kuifuta. ni kweli wale jamaa walichemsha, lakini wananchi wengi walioweka hela kule hawaelewi concept za uchumi, hivyo ukiwaambia ni mbaya hawakuelewei.

Mimi nilishawahi kuweka hala pale, rafiki yangu alinitonya. kuna marafiki zangu kama saba hivi, wao ni walokole, aisee, wanavuna karibia laki saba kila mwezi. ndio maana nilienda. sasa, nilipoingia, ndo niligundua kuwa, kumbe ilikuwa designed haswa kwa walokole, na si watu wote, walipoona watu wengine wanalalamika wakikataliwa, ndo wakaanza kuchukua watu wa dini zingine. asilimia 99% pale ni wakristo, waislam ni wachache sana, ndo maana ukienda pale mazungumzo mengi utakuta haleluya, wapendwa katika bwana, ameni ameni nakadhalika. nilijulishwa kuwa, hii ilianzishwa na mchungaji wa kilokole.

the point is, hii issue inawagusa wakristo wooote Tanzania, hasa wasio na elimu, in a very sensitive way, kiasi kwamba watu wako tayari kwa lolote kama ulishawahi kuhudhuria mkutano wao wowote. huwezi amini. watu wana gadhabu sana, kwasababu wengi walitia miguu yote pale na kuifuta ni kugusa mioyo ya wengi. wengi wamejenga nyumba nimeshuhudia, wengi waliweka viinua mgongo, wengi wameweka mishahara hasa waalimu, wanajeshi, maaskari nk kwasababu hapo ndo palikuwa panalipa.

ushauri wangu kwa selikali ni, hawa jamaa walikosea na wanaendesha ile shughuli isivyo halali, lakini selikali ikithubutu kwenda harakaharaka, italeta chuki, mtikisiko wa kiimani nk. hivyo selikali ifanya utaratibu wa polepole au kwa uangalifu mkubwa sana ikijua kuwa, deci ina wateja takribani laki saba 700,000, ambao wana wategemezi kibao. mtu mmoja anasomesha watoto kama watano, hivyo watakao athirika ni kama watu si chini ya million tatu na zaidi. HAPO PATAKUWA PATAMU HASA IKIZINGATIA MWAKANI NI UCHAGUZI, CcM itakosa kura nyingi na kupiga kampeni kutakuwa kuzuri sana kwetu sisi wapinzani.

NAIOMBA SELIKALI, ISIFANYE HILI JAMBO KWA PUPA. IKIJUA KUWA WALE WATU WANAOPANDA PALE SIO WASOMI, WENGI NI WALALA HOI, NA HAWAELEWI WALA HAWAAMINI. wengine wanaamini kuwa Idi Simba wa Pride ndo mbaya wao, wengine wanaamini kuwa Kikwete muislam hawasapoti wakristo, wengine wanaamini kuwa kuna bank ya kiislam ilitaka kuanzishwa wakashindwa ndo maana wanawaonea wivu wakristo, kila mtu anaamini chake pale. na kama hauamini, leo nimepita pale mabibo, watu wamejaa sana wanapanda mbegu, watu hawaogopi selikali, watu hawaogopi tamko la BOT.

KWENYE ISSUE YOYOTE INAYOGUSA DINI, kama DECI, hasa kwa hapa tz ambako kuna tension kubwa sana kati ya wakristo na waislam(hata mkibisha), ni bora kufanya mambo haya kwa uangalifu sana sana. la sivyo kunakuwa ni kupanda chuki na mioyo ya ajabu kwa watu. ANGALIENI MAASKOFU WALIVYOLIA KWENYE REDIO, WACHUNGAJI WANALIA MACHOZI nk, na ndo wanaowahubiria waumini kanisani kila siku. na ndo haohao walisema Kikwete ni chaguo la Mungu, hivyo CCM be careful, selikali pia uwe makini ili hii issue isiishe kwa madhara, ila iishe kwa usalama. pia, tuwe waangalifu, miaka mitatu wamekuwa hapa ndo tunashtuka leo, selikali iko wapi?ilikuwa imelala?wameshachelewa wao wana wanachama laki saba hadi wanashindwa kuwa kontrol. naona hapatoshi.

 

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Wewe ndugu yangu naona unaelekea kuwa desperate kweli na hiyo DECI yako. Badala ya kuchukua hatua za makusudi kuelimishana huko ili wengine wasije kuumizwa na kusaga meno na huo utapeli wa DECI, umeona ni bora muanze kuchonganisha dini na machafuko sababu ya hiyo DECI.

Aliyekwambia "kuna tension kubwa sana kati ya waislamu na wakristo" nani?...yani hiyo DECI imekupofua mpaka unaona visivyokuwepo. Sisi wengine tunaishi hapahapa Dar na kwa siku tunazunguka maeneo mengi na kukutana na watu wa dini tofauti wakishirikiana kibiashara, kikazi, kijamii bila hiyo "tension kubwa sana". Sijui mwenzetu una nguvu za kitume, kuona yasiyokuwepo.

Cha msingi ni kufuata sheria na kanuni za nchi, wawe kina sheikh Ponda au wawe walokole. Dini isiwe kichaka cha kuvunja sheria na kanuni za nchi. Maana baadae tutasema kuua mazeruzeru kwa utajiri ni imani ya kabila flani kubwa, kwa hiyo serikali isichukue hatua juu ya mazeruzeru sababu itakosa kura za hilo kabila au kuleta machafuko ya kikabila!...

What are you talking about... Soma thread mama ya DECI utakuta post inayoonyesha jinsi DECI ilivyoumiza watu masikini Kenya na wale maaskofu wa kilokole walioenda kwenye maTv kuipigia kampeni DECI walivyoomba radhi baada ya maelfu ya masikini kuumia.

Hii cheap shot ya DINI wont work, jaribuni kingine,... Msituletee ya kibwetere kwa tamaa ya hela usizofanyia kazi...

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Mwanakijiji,

Tunaweza kufanya nini hii makala ya DECI kwenye cheche iwafikie watanzania wengi?

Huwezi kuwasiliana / kuituma kwa baadhi ya magazeti hapa nchini waichapishe? Naamini kwa njia hiyo itawaelimisha wengi zaidi.

Nadhani itatoka kesho..kama wakiamua kuitoa mapema. Nimeiita "kama umevuna kimbia, hujavuna lia!"

 

[Mzee Mwanakijiji]

Mwizi hana dini! Na hawa wenye kutumia dini ndiyo wakati mwingine ni wezi wakubwa kabisa. Binafsi naamini wachungaji hawa ni wale ambao Ezekieli alisema ni "ole kwa wachungaji" kwani "wanakula vilivyonona" huku kondoo wao wakifa njaa.

Ni wachungaji wa matumbo yao. Hawa wanatakiwa kutiwa pingu ili waende kuhubiri katika selo za magereza ambako huko kuna kulia na kusaga meno!