Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

[El Matador]

Ngong hills hotel

Kivi milimani hotel,ngong area

 

[game over]

Dar es Salaam Tanzania has one of the third largest slum growth rates in the whole of Africa.
Slums that develop in Tanzania's cities to travel to are over 6% in a year’s time. The population of the people in those slums is also rated as the sixth in the whole Africa region.
It is also fascinating to learn that Tanzania has over six million of its people living in the slums and 67% of this 6 million people live in the urban centres like Dar es Salaam. Reports, especially, from the UN estimates that, 92% of the people living in Tanzania’s urban centres are actually slum dwellers.
These sums up to more than 11 million people, which now brings in the aspect of Tanzania being the third largest slum population in the whole of Africa. This is normally caused by frequent government evictions that end up leaving tens of thousands of people homeless and in unimaginable poverty. You will learn this and many more from slum tours in Dar es Salaam Tanzania.

Can you Specify one Slum please?

 

[El Matador]

Na kwa nini Capetown hamuezi zungumzia hizo slums zao

Tanzanians usually celebrate when something terrible happens to Kenya. ...just go to BBC Swahili and see how they praise al shabaab.hao watu hutuchukia na si siri but Rwandese,Ugandans, Congolese, Nigerians love Kenyans. You can see hata vile wamejaa Nairobi. .........Tanzania has never wanted to be part of EAC coz ya wivu na Kenya.

 

[El Matador]

Some establishments in parklands Nairobi

 

[mwathadan]

Can you Specify one Slum please?

70% of dar is slum ata haina jina

 

[IamLee]

Can you Specify one Slum please?

You keep pretending and trolling kenyans about kibera yet 92% of tanzanian urban population are slum dwellers. Come back here with less than 10% urban slum population and start talking but don't make fools out of yourselves trying to raise a point which you yourselves are not any better... In fact worse.

 

[ichoboy01]

forest..green space, residential

hahaha sasa wanajala anaongea nini😀😀😀😀😀

 

[ichoboy01]

You keep pretending and trolling kenyans about kibera yet 92% of tanzanian urban population are slum dwellers. Come back here with less than 10% urban slum population and start talking but don't make fools out of yourselves trying to raise a point which you yourselves are not any better... In fact worse.

jipe moyo hvohvo hahahahahah 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

 

[El Matador]

zile vitu kadoda hupost hapa ati ndio posh areas in Daresalaam. ....hiyo city inahitaji maombi.There's no way a tiny CBD can be covered in 80-90% shack houses.We are disgracing The Great Nairobi by comparing it to cities like Dar

 

[ichoboy01]

Capetown has the biggest slum in Africa but dar has the highest population living in slums

subutu yako kibera is a biggest slum in the world.....yani unatufunga kamba kweupe😀😀😀😀😀😀

Kibera
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


A view of Kibera


Dwellings in Kibera, Nairobi Kenya (ca. 2008)
Kibera (Nubian: Forest or Jungle[1]) is a division of Nairobi Area, Kenya, and neighbourhood of the city of Nairobi, 6.6 kilometres (4.1 mi) from the city centre.[2] Kibera is the largest slum in Nairobi, and the largest urban slum in Africa.[3][4][5

 

[ichoboy01]

zile vitu kadoda hupost hapa ati ndio posh areas in Daresalaam. ....hiyo city inahitaji maombi.There's no way a tiny CBD can be covered in 80-90% shack houses.We are disgracing The Great Nairobi by comparing it to cities like Dar

😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀 kweli asie na hili ana lile......

 

[ichoboy01]

Ofcz yes!!
nafaham largest slum ziko south Africa kwahyo unataka kusema mko nao league moja Au

tuusan huyo asikufunge kamba kweupe asome hapo

Kibera Facts & Information
There are approximatly 2.5 million slum dwellers in about 200 settlements in Nairobi representing 60% of the Nairobi population and occupying just 6% of the land. Kibera houses about 250,000 of these people. Kibera is the biggest slum in Africa and one of the biggest in the world.

Land Ownership
The Government owns all the land. 10% of people are shack owners and many of these people own many other shacks and let them out to tenants. The remaining 90% of residents are tenants with no rights.

Housing
The average size of shack in this area is 12ft x 12ft built with mud walls, a corrugated tin roof with a dirt or concrete floor. The cost is about KES 700 per Month (£6). These shacks often house up to 8 or more with many sleeping on the floor.

The population
The original settlers were the Nubian people from the Kenyan/Sudanese border – they now occupy about 15% of Kibera, are mostly Muslim and are also mostly shack owners. The other shack owners are mostly Kikuyu (the majority tribe in Nairobi) – although in most cases they do not live there but are absentee landlords. The majority of the tenants are Luo, Luhya and some Kamba – these people are from the west of Kenya. There are many tensions in Kibera, particularly tribal tensions between the Luo & Kikuyu, but also between landlord and tenant and those with and without jobs.

Electricity
Only about 20% of Kibera has electricity. UN-Habitat is in the process of providing it to some parts of Kibera – this will include street lighting, security lighting and connection to shacks (this costs KES 900 per shack, which in most cases is not affordable).

Water
Until recently Kibera had no water and it had to be collected from the Nairobi dam. The dam water is not clean and causes typhoid and cholera. Now there are two mains water pipes into Kibera, one from the municipal council and one from the World Bank. Residents collect water at KES 3 per 20 litres.

Sewage
In most of Kibera there are no toilet facilities. One latrine (hole in the ground) is shared by up to 50 shacks. Once full, young boys are employed to empty the latrine and they take the contents to the river. UN-Habitat and a few other agencies are trying to help and improve this situation but it is painfully slow.

Medical facilities and HIV/AIDS Clinics
In Kibera there are no government clinics or hospitals. The providers are the charitable organisations: AMREF, MSF, churches plus some others. They do a great job. All people are encouraged to have a free HIV test and if positive to take free generic ARV medicine.

Changaa
This is cheap alcoholic brew. It is widely available, very strong (over 50% alcohol) and made incorrectly, so is usually very high in Methanol. The cost is only KES 10 per glass and after a couple of glasses people become very drunk. With over 50% unemployment in Kibera many start drinking early in the morning leading to problems of violence, crime, rapes etc. Several charities are trying to help by showing the Changaa makers how to make the drink less dangerous.

Drugs
Cheap drugs and glue sniffing are an increasing problem. Initially taken to alleviate boredom but then people find themselves hooked. A big challenge to the charities!

Abortion
Due to many men still not using condoms and the availability of Changaa, many girls become pregnant, at any one time about 50% of 16 to 25 yr old girls are pregnant. Most of these pregnancies are unwanted, resulting in many cases of abortion. This can be very dangerous, particularly in such a poor area as Kibera. Many charities are working on this problem.

Unemployment
Kibera is near the industrial area of Nairobi where up to 50% of the available workforce are employed (usually in fairly unskilled jobs). However, there is still an unemployment rate of 50%. This is why the training and teaching of skills is very important.

Sport
Most young people in Kibera have nothing to do, obviously it is better for them to have the opportunity to take part in sport and several organisations are working on this.

Nairobi Slum Survey
The African Population and Health Research Center (APHRC) produced a report which provides many different statistics relating to the slums of Nairobi, including facts about Kibera. You can download the 212 page here:
* ‘Report of the Nairobi Cross-sectional Slums Survey‘

SUMMARY FINDINGS
Kibera needs land/tenancy rights, housing, water, electricity, health clinics, education, employment, security plus much more. All these issues are being addressed to a lesser or greater extent by many organizations including the Churches, UN-Habitat, MSF and AMREF etc. Money is finding its way through from many international organizations including Gates Foundation, Bill Clinton Foundation, all the well known charities and of course the churches both in Africa and internationally. However, money cannot help without people to direct it – all the organizations require assistance. They all need intelligent, keen, willing, and compassionate people to help.

In the western world it has become common for many students to take a Gap Year out before or after university. More mature people are also now taking a year out, away from their everyday life. Many could work in Kibera where they would achieve a real sense of doing some good. Kibera is crying out for people to help.

Citation
* African Population and Health Research Center (APHRC). 2014. Population and Health Dynamics in Nairobi’s Informal Settlements: Report of the Nairobi Cross-sectional Slums Survey. (NCSS) 2012. Nairobi: APHRC.

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[ichoboy01]

70% of dar is slum ata haina jina

kumbuka Mungu anakuona😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

 

[ichoboy01]

Tanzanians usually celebrate when something terrible happens to Kenya. ...just go to BBC Swahili and see how they praise al shabaab.hao watu hutuchukia na si siri but Rwandese,Ugandans, Congolese, Nigerians love Kenyans. You can see hata vile wamejaa Nairobi. .........Tanzania has never wanted to be part of EAC coz ya wivu na Kenya.

tanzania haina wivu na nchi yoyote ndio maana ukabila hakuna
alshabab mulijitakia wenyewe so its out of our bzness
the following are Nairobi slums

• Baba Ndogo
• Dandora
• Fuata Nyayo
• Huruma
• Kawangware
• Kangemi
• Kiambiu
• Kibera (including Gatwekera, Kambi Muru, Kangemi, Kianda, Kichinjio, Kisumu Ndogo, Laini Saba, Lindi, Makina, Makongeni, Mashimoni, Mugumoini, Raila, Sarang'ombe, Shilanga, Siranga, Soweto East and Soweto West)
• Korogocho
• Majengo, Nairobi
• Matopeni
• Mathare
• Mathare Valley
• Mukuru kwa Njenga
• Mukuru slums
• Nyalenda
• Pumwani
• Ziwa la Ng'ombe
• Kenyatta University Slums

 

[ichoboy01]

Na kwa nini Capetown hamuezi zungumzia hizo slums zao

tutazungumzia za nairobi as follows

• Baba Ndogo
• Dandora
• Fuata Nyayo
• Huruma
• Kawangware
• Kangemi
• Kiambiu
• Kibera (including Gatwekera, Kambi Muru, Kangemi, Kianda, Kichinjio, Kisumu Ndogo, Laini Saba, Lindi, Makina, Makongeni, Mashimoni, Mugumoini, Raila, Sarang'ombe, Shilanga, Siranga, Soweto East and Soweto West)
• Korogocho
• Majengo, Nairobi
• Matopeni
• Mathare
• Mathare Valley
• Mukuru kwa Njenga
• Mukuru slums
• Nyalenda
• Pumwani
• Ziwa la Ng'ombe
• Kenyatta University Slums

 

[ichoboy01]

Sasa kariakoo yote ni dormitory na mnazitumaga day in day out

kariakoo sio size yako😀😀😀😀😀😀

 

[ichoboy01]

Nairobi
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alafu mr wanjala kuhusu data center hii kijitonyama data center sio ya kwanza nimefanya research tunazo more than 5 data centers na ziko in service up to date, alafu hii kijitonyama is one of the modern data centers ambayo inatumia advanced facilities

 

[El Matador]

More of the great Nairobi

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Nyerere mwenyewe alitii

 

[Edward Wanjala]

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This Photo!! With the galaxy!! The one who took the shot is just another kind of a photographer

 

[El Matador]

Daresalaam resembles kibera. ..atleast hapo tunaweza pima