Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

Venus Star said:

Kaka Sabotage ipo ni kubwa mno, tukianza kwa wale wenye malori ya kusafirisha mizigo. Kutokea ndani ya nchi mpaka nje ya nchi. Watu wanapata faida kubwa mno kwenye Transportation. Kutoka kwa wenye vituo vya mafuta, wenye malori na viwanda vya magari.

Inatakiwa roho ya chuma kuvuka mtihani huu. Usidhani kelele zote hizi kumchafua Samia ni one direction. Wengine hao hao akina kikwete wanachochea moto wakiwa wamekaa kwa mbali.

Mimi naomba tumpatie support japo kidogo aweze kuuvunja huu ukuta. Ukishalielewa hilo basi utakuwa umefunguka macho.

Sometimes waliochoma vituo vya Mwendo Kasi ni hawa hawa wamiliki wa Daladala.
Kuna mkusanyikoa wa vitu vingi. Wapo kweli wenyelengo la kufanya maandamano ya ikweli, but ndani yake kuna hujuma kubwa mno. We need to handle this with care.

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Hizi sabotage zipo wazi, wanaomiliki malori na vituo vya mafuta tunawajuwa.

Ni wazi reli inarubuniwa, ndiyo maana hata kipande kuungia bandarini, bado kina sua sua, ili biashara za watu ziendelee. Mambo ya hovyo sana.

Uharibifu wa BRT, ni hao hao wamiliki wa boda boda na dala dala, lakini pia kunaweza kuwa na kundi lililotaka kuharibu maandamano ya amani, kuyafanya yaonekane ya vurugu kama walivyofanya kwenye Occupy Wallstreet, miaka michache iliyopita.

Pia uwezekano wa baadhi ya WaKenya kuhusika upo, ila siyo kwa kiwango cha juu kama hawa watu wetu, wenye uchu wa mali.

Chamoto said:

Hizi sabotage zipo wazi, wanaomiliki malori na vituo vya mafuta tunawajuwa.

Ni wazi reli inarubuniwa, ndiyo maana hata kipande kuungia bandarini, bado kina sua sua, ili biashara za watu ziendelee. Mambo ya hovyo sana.

Uharibifu wa BRT, ni hao hao wamiliki wa boda boda na dala dala, lakini pia kunaweza kuwa na kundi lililotaka kuharibu maandamano ya amani, kuyafanya yaonekane ya vurugu kama walivyofanya kwenye Occupy Wallstreet, miaka michache iliyopita.

Pia uwezekano wa baadhi ya WaKenya kuhusika upo, ila siyo kwa kiwango cha juu kama hawa watu wetu, wenye uchu wa mali.

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Kindly explain, how would Kenyans be involved in Tanzanian demonstrations?

Chamoto said:

Hizi sabotage zipo wazi, wanaomiliki malori na vituo vya mafuta tunawajuwa.

Ni wazi reli inarubuniwa, ndiyo maana hata kipande kuungia bandarini, bado kina sua sua, ili biashara za watu ziendelee. Mambo ya hovyo sana.

Uharibifu wa BRT, ni hao hao wamiliki wa boda boda na dala dala, lakini pia kunaweza kuwa na kundi lililotaka kuharibu maandamano ya amani, kuyafanya yaonekane ya vurugu kama walivyofanya kwenye Occupy Wallstreet, miaka michache iliyopita.

Pia uwezekano wa baadhi ya WaKenya kuhusika upo, ila siyo kwa kiwango cha juu kama hawa watu wetu, wenye uchu wa mali.

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Wanatakiwa wakae pamoja tukubaliane mwelekeo wa Taifa. Kama biashara zao hizo wabadli namna ya uendeshaji. Dunia haitusubili. Wahafidhina (conservatives) hawataki kukubali mabadiliko makubwa haya yanayoikumba dunia. Watu wengi sasa ni Liberals. Bahati mbaya sana watumishi wakubwa na viongozi kwenye serikali wameshilikiwa na haya makampuni. Anatakiwa pure person mwenye roho ngumu na watu wake wamlinde kwelikweli. Tutatoboa.

Mpango asingeweza kumsaidia Samia he is too mpole, hana roho ngumu. Ninaimani na Emmanuel Nchimbi anaujua mchezo atacheza nao vizuri sana.

Kwa kutumia mpango wa akina Gwajima, Polepole, Heche, Tundu Lisu, Mnyinga hatutaweza kusogea. Hawana Strategy yoyote. Yaani wanakuja kwenye mitandao ya kijamii kuwasema watu badala ya kukaa vikao na kupanga mbinu za maana. HIcho ndicho ninachokisema ni utoto.

Gwajima alipata nafasi nyeti sana yakuwa kwenye NEC ya CCM, Huku katibu wake wa kanisa lake ni kiongozi mkubwa sana ndani ya CDM. Ngwajima alishindwa nini kutumia ushawishi ndani ya NEC ya CCM ku influence kwa akili?

Wanatumia njia za kutishia Rais I don't know ni nani aliwadanganya. Majeshi yote ya ulinzi na usalama yanaapa Kulinda katiba na Rais wa Jumhuri ya Muungano tu.

Akina Mzee Butiku na Warioba wanamdanganya Polepole huku wao ni watiifu 100% wa Ikulu. wale wazee somo la deception wanalijua vizuri sana. Wanaongea na Polepole hivi halafu wanapeleka taarifa Ikulu. Hiyo ni kazi yao mpaka wanakufa.

Nadhani kuna maelezo fulani umenielewa.

NairobiWalker said:

Kindly explain, how would Kenyans be involved in Tanzanian demonstrations?

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Brother tunajua mambo mengi sana, wakati mwingine tunakaa kimya tu kuwastili majirani zetu.
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Wakati SGR inaanza wengi waliokamatwa wakiiba nyaya za umeme ni wakenya why? Nani aliyewatuma?
Issue ya maandamano ya juzi, utulivu utakaporejea kwa watu ndipo ukweli utatolewa. Vijana walioshitakiwa ni chambo tu. Lakini wapo wengine nyuma. Hawawqezi kwa sasa kuwataja maana wataleta taharuki kwenye nchi jirani. Just subiri mambo yote utayajua tu, usiwe na haraka.

Mombasa.

Teargass said:

Mombasa.
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NairobiWalker said:

Kindly explain, how would Kenyans be involved in Tanzanian demonstrations?

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Through NGOs, which fund groups of people to initiate demonstrations, the type of a color revolution.

In my opinion, the significance of kenyan's involvement, if any, was very minimal. I suspect over 98% of these demonstrations/vandalism were done by Tanzanians who are fed up with this Kikwete shadow presidency.

Chamoto said:

Hizi sabotage zipo wazi, wanaomiliki malori na vituo vya mafuta tunawajuwa.

Ni wazi reli inarubuniwa, ndiyo maana hata kipande kuungia bandarini, bado kina sua sua, ili biashara za watu ziendelee. Mambo ya hovyo sana.

Uharibifu wa BRT, ni hao hao wamiliki wa boda boda na dala dala, lakini pia kunaweza kuwa na kundi lililotaka kuharibu maandamano ya amani, kuyafanya yaonekane ya vurugu kama walivyofanya kwenye Occupy Wallstreet, miaka michache iliyopita.

Pia uwezekano wa baadhi ya WaKenya kuhusika upo, ila siyo kwa kiwango cha juu kama hawa watu wetu, wenye uchu wa mali.

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Eeeh hivo ndivo iko.
Pumzika sasa usifanye tukuje tuchome hivyo vituo na mabasi yalibaki 😂 😂 😂

Chamoto said:

Through NGOs, which fund groups of people to initiate demonstrations, the type of a color revolution.

In my opinion, the significance of kenyan's involvement, if any, was very minimal. I suspect over 98% of these demonstrations/vandalism were done by Tanzanians who are fed up with this Kikwete shadow presidency.

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Na wanajifanya kuchoma vituo vya Lake Oil ili kumchanganya adui. Tangu lini Maria Sarungi na Mange Kimambi wakamgeuka JK? Sisi watu wenye akili tunausoma tu mchezo.

Unadhani Kikwete Kumwita Rais Samuya ilikuwa ni mistake? Hiyo ilikuwa calculated kwa lengo la kumchafua. Sikia baada ya kumwita hivyo vijana wangapi walifanya challange ya kuongea hivyo?

Kwa kuwa umeanza kuelewa ndio maana mimi namtetea Samia. Amezungukwa na mafisi, ndio maana 90% wanaomsaidia ni watu wa jiwe.

Chamoto said:

Through NGOs, which fund groups of people to initiate demonstrations, the type of a color revolution.

In my opinion, the significance of kenyan's involvement, if any, was very minimal. I suspect over 98% of these demonstrations/vandalism were done by Tanzanians who are fed up with this Kikwete shadow presidency.

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You are a r*tarded m*ron.
No amount of protest or vandalism allows the police, the upholders of the rule of law, to go shooting people in their homes.
Protests are dealt with tear gas and water cannons and sprays and finally rubber bullets. Those guilty of vandalism are taken through the judicial system for misdemeanors (not treason), unless you don't have a country.

Bongolala hamna akili kabisa.
Kenyans rose up for a single hawker who was fatally shot by a rubber bullet, na hapa you're being slaughtered like goats, and your anger is directed to those who dared challenge the dictatorship.

Only Gen Z and below will save your brain dead ujamaa heads.

Venus Star said:

Brother tunajua mambo mengi sana, wakati mwingine tunakaa kimya tu kuwastili majirani zetu.
Nikuulize:-
Wakati SGR inaanza wengi waliokamatwa wakiiba nyaya za umeme ni wakenya why? Nani aliyewatuma?
Issue ya maandamano ya juzi, utulivu utakaporejea kwa watu ndipo ukweli utatolewa. Vijana walioshitakiwa ni chambo tu. Lakini wapo wengine nyuma. Hawawqezi kwa sasa kuwataja maana wataleta taharuki kwenye nchi jirani. Just subiri mambo yote utayajua tu, usiwe na haraka.

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I didn't ask you bro, I want an answer from someone with a brain.

NairobiWalker said:

I didn't ask you bro, I want an answer from someone with a brain.

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😂😂😂

Chamoto said:

Through NGOs, which fund groups of people to initiate demonstrations, the type of a color revolution.

In my opinion, the significance of kenyan's involvement, if any, was very minimal. I suspect over 98% of these demonstrations/vandalism were done by Tanzanians who are fed up with this Kikwete shadow presidency.

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1. So are those NGOs that you speak of Kenyan? If they are, kindly name one.
2. Is it truly so difficult to comprehend that citizens might take to the streets to protest an election that, by every objective measure, appears fraudulent without resorting to blaming a neighboring country for the unrest?

Venus Star said:

Na wanajifanya kuchoma vituo vya Lake Oil ili kumchanganya adui. Tangu lini Maria Sarungi na Mange Kimambi wakamgeuka JK? Sisi watu wenye akili tunausoma tu mchezo.

Unadhani Kikwete Kumwita Rais Samuya ilikuwa ni mistake? Hiyo ilikuwa calculated kwa lengo la kumchafua. Sikia baada ya kumwita hivyo vijana wangapi walifanya challange ya kuongea hivyo?

Kwa kuwa umeanza kuelewa ndio maana mimi namtetea Samia. Amezungukwa na mafisi, ndio maana 90% wanaomsaidia ni watu wa jiwe.

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Hao watu wa jiwe ni akina nani?

Hi

NairobiWalker said:

I didn't ask you bro, I want an answer from someone with a brain.

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Huu mjadala upo public any person can answer whatever you ask. Kama unataka kuuliza mtu specific send him privaty message.

NairobiWalker said:

1. So are those NGOs that you speak of Kenyan? If they are, kindly name one.

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Nimeshakuambia, if any, nikimaanisha uwezekano ni mdogo. Sisemi ilihusika, ila Amnesty ni moja ya NGOs zinazo support mandamano.

NairobiWalker said:

2. Is it truly so difficult to comprehend that citizens might take to the streets to protest an election that, by every objective measure, appears fraudulent without resorting to blaming a neighboring country for the unrest?

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Georgia (a country) waliweka sheria ya kulazimisha NGO zinazopokea pesa zaidi ya 20% ziwe registered as a foregn organization, cha ajabu EU wakalalamika sana.

kwa nini walalamike wakati wao wanasheria kama hizo kwao?

Sababu ni kuwa hizi NGOs zinatumika kama cover ya ku fund agenda mbalimbali zisizo husiana na kazi rasmi. Serikali ya Sandu, kule Moldova imekuwa funded na hizi hizi NGOs.

Chamoto said:

Hao watu wa jiwe ni akina nani?

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Pitia Makatibu wa wizara, pitia wakurungenzi mbalimbali utanielewa vizuri.

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Chamoto said:

Nimeshakuambia, if any, nikimaanisha uwezekano ni mdogo. Sisemi ilihusika, ila Amnesty ni moja ya NGOs zinazo support mandamano.

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Amnesty International is not a Kenyan NGO. It is a global NGO headquartered in London. I don't see how Amnesty supporting Tanzanian activists is Kenya's problem. Furthermore, the core issue here is the sham election and human rights violations. Blaming the activists is missing the point. Global NGOs will fund dissidents in any country that violates human rights and rigs elections. Africa in particular is undergoing a revolution and we are going to see more of these unrests in countries that have tradionally not been known to have political unrests - even the docile Cameroonians this time were up in arms. Are you going to blame Kenya for that too?

Uganda will likely face similar turmoil in its next election—the signs are already there. This isn’t foreign interference; it’s a natural response to injustice. People can only endure oppression for so long before resistance becomes inevitable. Tanzanians must begin to take responsibility for their internal failures instead of externalizing blame onto neighboring countries.

Chamoto said:

Georgia (a country) waliweka sheria ya kulazimisha NGO zinazopokea pesa zaidi ya 20% ziwe registered as a foregn organization, cha ajabu EU wakalalamika sana.

kwa nini walalamike wakati wao wanasheria kama hizo kwao?

Sababu ni kuwa hizi NGOs zinatumika kama cover ya ku fund agenda mbalimbali zisizo husiana na kazi rasmi. Serikali ya Sandu, kule Moldova imekuwa funded na hizi hizi NGOs.

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I don't see how this answers my question/