Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

[much know]

Kweli tungeona utofauti ghorofa Zima halina plaster 🤣🤣🤣🤣

HAya maisha bado yapo Nairobi tu
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Na hapa ni Nairobi CBD

 

[nairobae]

Wewe SI umetoka kujitapa kwamba Nairobi Haina foleni kwa sababu mahitaji yenu yametapakaaa🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Nionyeshe mahali nimeandika hivyo?

 

[NairobiWalker]

Hatupendi maneno

Nairobi Population 2026

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Nairobi's 2025 population is now estimated at 5,766,990. In 1950, the population of Nairobi was 137,456. Nairobi has grown by 225,820 in the last year, which represents a 4.08% annual change.These population estimates and projections come from the latest revision of the UN World Urbanization Prospects. These estimates represent the Urban agglomeration of Nairobi, which typically includes Nairobi's population in addition to adjacent suburban areas.

Dar es Salaam Population 2026

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Dar es Salaam Population 2026

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Dar es Salaam's 2025 population is now estimated at 8,561,520. In 1950, the population of Dar es Salaam was 83,844. Dar es Salaam has grown by 400,290 in the last year, which represents a 4.9% annual change.These population estimates and projections come from the latest revision of the UN World Urbanization Prospects. These estimates represent the Urban agglomeration of Dar es Salaam, which typically includes Dar es Salaam's population in addition to adjacent suburban areas.

Unataka tena nikupe somo kuhusu utofauti wa metropolitan area na city? Sina huo muda. Ni somo nimepeana huku mara nyingi sana walio na akili washaajua. Lakini nitakutolea mfano.
Hapa ni list ya largest cities in Europe.

Hapa napo ni list ya largest urban centers in Europe

Ukiangalia kwa list ya kwanza, jiji la Paris ni number 9. Ukiangalia kwa list ya pili, jiji la Paris ni number 1. Nenda kafanye utafiti utaelewa kwa nini nakwambia Nairobi ni kubwa kuliko Dar.

 

[NairobiWalker]

Na hapa ni Nairobi CBD

Tell me you've not travelled without telling me you've not travelled.

 

[President of China]

Unataka tena nikupe somo kuhusu utofauti wa metropolitan area na city? Sina huo muda. Ni somo nimepeana huku mara nyingi sana walio na akili washaajua. Lakini nitakutolea mfano.
Hapa ni list ya largest cities in Europe.

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Hapa napo ni list ya largest urban centers in Europe

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Ukiangalia kwa list ya kwanza, jiji la Paris ni number 9. Ukiangalia kwa list ya pili, jiji la Paris ni number 1. Nenda kafanye utafiti utaelewa kwa nini nakwambia Nairobi ni kubwa kuliko Dar.

Wikipedia 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

 

[NairobiWalker]

Nilimaanisha jam ya watu.

Hata magari, hiyo toll road ya Wachina na yenyewe ina TRAFFIC JAM



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Mnakuwanga na issues sana na hii Expressway, ikiwa na magari mengi mnasema in Jam, ikiwa na magari kiasi mnasema Wakenya maskini wameshindwa kuilipia. Yani wivu wa kike. 🤣 🤣

 

[NairobiWalker]

NairobiWalker ulisema hapa ni CBD lakini hua hawataki kukubali. 😄

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Wanaonyesha upande wa State House ati hiyo ndio CBD 🤣

 

[Sama boy 255]

Nairobi metro is bigger than Dar metro by at least 1M people.

Leo ngoja nikutolee uvivu maana umeshajifirahisha vya kutosha. 🤣🤣🤣 hakuna ka kijiji chochote cha kukaribiana na ukubwa wa DSM. Mipaka ya Dar city pekeee ni 3 times larger than that of Naipori.

Haya njoo na facts mkundu wa mbwa wewe.

 

[nairobae]

Nilimaanisha jam ya watu.

Hata magari, hiyo toll road ya Wachina na yenyewe ina TRAFFIC JAM



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It's very rare kupata jam Kwa expressway, ukiona jam pengine Kuna accident ambayo imeblock exit ama entrance ramps ama accident Kwa barabara yenyewe. Uliza bongolala wenzako ambao wametumia expressway watakuambia.

 

[Sama boy 255]

Kuna kitu kinaitwa maintenance. Wewe unaongelea 1980, kuna magorofa hapa yamejengwa 1950s na bado yapo sawa.

We mkenya mpumbavu unatoa wapi guts za kuikosoa posta naakati Nairobi CBD ina majengo yamechoka ni takataka kabisa. 🤣🤣🤣👇🏾

 

[babayao255]

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[instanbul]

My honest views about Dar es Salaam that I noted in my 3 day stay.

Positive

1. From the TPA tower, you can get some amazing views of Dar of the sides adjacent to the ocean.
2. Dar has amazing street food.
3. There's positive infrastructural growth in Dar.
4. The BRT is being well implemented.
5. There's a more organized public transportation system than Nairobi. You're less likely to find Daladalas parked anyway or loading and dropping passengers at odd places.

Neutral
1. Dar still has lots of open spaces and is considerably less dense than Nairobi.
2. Most women dress in Dera or dera-like clothing.
3. Tanzanians are short. I'm 6'2". The tallest guy I met in 3 days was my height. In Nairobi, there's no way I can go out and not meet someone taller than me.
4. Tanzanians love lowrise residential buildings.

5. I don't know whether this is negative or positive but Dar metro is not bigger than Nairobi metro. From Bagamoyo, you start seeing serious built up area at about 40-45km from CBD. In Nairobi, from namanga you'll start seeing serious built up area at about 37km from CBD. From Thika, you'll see the continuous built up area at about 40km. Remember the nairobi CBD is in the middle of the city while the Dar CBD is on the edge. Remember Nairobi is also denser than dar. My assertion is, Nairobi is still the bigger metro. My random estimate, Nairobi metro beats Dar by at least 1M people.
6. The SGR terminus is nice but much smaller than the Nairobi one. About half the size of Nairobi terminus.

Negative.
1. When I saw instanbul decry Kenya's parliament road, I almost started feeling like the Dar CBD roads had greatly improved from my last time there. The truth is, other than Sokoine Drive (which is amazing btw), the rest of the roads have not changed a bit. You can't compare Dar CBD to Nairobi CBD, not even a competition. Minus those 3 blue towers, most towers are short and beat up. Ngara could give the rest of the CBD a run for it's money. Infact other than TPA PSPF, MNF and Mzizima Tower, Kariakoo has better buildings than the CBD. Hell I saw an untarmaced road in the CBD.

2. Dar is dusty, I see people here talking about red soil in Nairobi. Yeah, Nairobi has red soil which is very visible but Dar is even dustier. They're lucky their soil is sandy hence tries to hide how dusty the city is but it's super dusty

3. Mikocheni has nothing on Kilimani. Not even close. I don't even want to say more because comparing the two is laughable. Generally, high end neighborhoods in Nairobi are way ahead of those in Dar.
4. Uswazis are real. Tanzanians need to stop the narrative that there are no slums in Dar. Those things you call uswazis are slums. Wake up
5. The daladalas are more beat up than our matatus. They also overload more. You struggle to breath just being in one at rush hours.
6. Other than the main roads, access roads are crap. Nairobi beats Dar hands down in that sector
7. Dar lags behind on both budget and high end accomodation. Interesting for a coastal city.
8. Kilindini harbor is bigger than Port of Dar
9. I see people here share about flooding in Nairobi laughing and one may feel Dar is better. A little drizzle in Dar and there are ponds everywhere. I'm sure heavy rains would bring lots of flooding.
10. Some road construction in Dar is taking forever to complete. Even the locals are complaining lowkey. If that was in Kenya, we would have flooded twitter with photos complaining which would have provided some simpletons here with ammo for bashing us. Tanzanians are too meek.

Photo: Ponding in Dar after some drizzle.
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Nimeishia hapo uliposema Kariakoo has modern building than Posta. Pamoja na kuhamisha ofisi nyingi za serikali Dodoma Bado posta ina hadhi yake. Mkuu ulitembelea posta gan mzee. Nyinyi ndo mnakuja dar na kuishia old dar kama kisutu, kaburi moja nk na kuconclude Dar CBD.



I agree with samora avenue, Ohio street na some roads kuwa too old na BRT road kuchukua long time kuisha. But their finishing is not bad angalia Airport road, am sure hujaiona, kilwa road. south Kawawa road nk. They have proper horizontal infrastructure na Bagamoyo road will also look like that.

Mengine umetia chumvi sana kama vile unatoka Joburg, Capetown nk. Kumbe Nairobi hii inayojichokea

 

[Sama boy 255]

Nimeishia hapo uliposema Kariakoo has modern building than Posta. Pamoja na kuhamisha ofisi nyingi za serikali Dodoma Bado posta ina hadhi yake. Mkuu ulitembelea posta gan mzee. Nyinyi ndo mnakuja dar na kuishia old dar kama kisutu, kaburi moja nk na kuconclude Dar CBD.



I agree with samora avenue, Ohio street na some roads kuwa too old na BRT road kuchukua long time kuisha. But their finishing is not bad angalia Airport road, am sure hujaiona, kilwa road. south Kawawa road nk. They have proper horizontal infrastructure na Bagamoyo road will also look like that.

Mengine umetia chumvi sana kama vile unatoka Joburg, Capetown nk. Kumbe Nairobi hii inayojichokea

Picha linaanza kaja na gari la machungwa 🤣🤣🤣 si unaona anasema kapita bagamoyo.? Huyo katokea nothern regions to DSM.

Mitaa alizopost bertin alisema eti ni may be 3 metters or less. 🤣🤣 yani hajafika kabisa posta mpya to Ferry, and I am pretty sure hata ocean drive hajakanyaga. Kwasababu niliona ameandika eti barabara nzuri bongo ni sokoine drive ..

Niliona pia aliandika alikua alipanda daladala while she is in Dar. Seems alifikizia uswahilini kwasababu ndio destinations za daladala nyingi mjini.

 

[instanbul]

Here is a photo I took of Dar CBD. Look at those useless buildings I talked about. Look at those buildings in the CBD

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It's even worse on ground.
Here is an unpaved street in your CBD 🤣 🤣
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Here is another street in your CBD🤣🤣
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Minus Sokoine street (Which I mentioned is awesome) and the towers I mentioned, your CBD is comparable to Ngara in Nairobi.
Interestingly, you literally asked me to come to Dar and see for myself. Now I've come to Dar and seen for myself and now speaking of what I saw, you're complaining. You're an interestung fellow.

Is that Dar CBD? Posta? Mimi naona kata ya kisutu iliyojaa wahindi na majumba yao.
Nilisema nyinyi ndo mnakuja dar na kuishia Old Dar na kuconclude Dar CBD.

Comeback and explore posta. This is posta I know

 

[President of China]

Hii inawauma sana wakenya. Wanatamani wao wawe sisi


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[instanbul]

Here is a photo I took of Dar CBD. Look at those useless buildings I talked about. Look at those buildings in the CBD

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It's even worse on ground.
Here is an unpaved street in your CBD 🤣 🤣
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Here is another street in your CBD🤣🤣
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Minus Sokoine street (Which I mentioned is awesome) and the towers I mentioned, your CBD is comparable to Ngara in Nairobi.
Interestingly, you literally asked me to come to Dar and see for myself. Now I've come to Dar and seen for myself and now speaking of what I saw, you're complaining. You're an interestung fellow.

Is that Dar CBD? Posta? Mimi naona kata ya kisutu iliyojaa wahindi na majumba yao.
Nilisema nyinyi ndo mnakuja dar na kuishia Old Dar na kuconclude Dar CBD.

Comeback and explore posta. This is posta I


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[Sama boy 255]

Is that Dar CBD? Posta? Mimi naona kata ya kisutu iliyojaa wahindi na majumba yao.
Nilisema nyinyi ndo mnakuja dar na kuishia Old Dar na kuconclude Dar CBD.

Comeback and explore posta. This is posta I know


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Nilivyopost hii picha juzi, kuna fala mmoja wa kunyarenda alisema eti ni goverment square. 🤣🤣🤣 uzuri wote wa posta tunaojidai nao uko huku.

 

[instanbul]

Here is a photo I took of Dar CBD. Look at those useless buildings I talked about. Look at those buildings in the CBD

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It's even worse on ground.
Here is an unpaved street in your CBD 🤣 🤣
View attachment 3324660

Here is another street in your CBD🤣🤣
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Minus Sokoine street (Which I mentioned is awesome) and the towers I mentioned, your CBD is comparable to Ngara in Nairobi.
Interestingly, you literally asked me to come to Dar and see for myself. Now I've come to Dar and seen for myself and now speaking of what I saw, you're complaining. You're an interestung fellow.

Is that Dar CBD? Posta? Mimi naona kata ya kisutu iliyojaa wahindi na majumba yao.
Nilisema nyinyi ndo mnakuja dar na kuishia Old Dar na kuconclude Dar CBD.

Comeback and explore posta. This is posta I


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[Marcelly]

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[NairobiWalker]

Nimeishia hapo uliposema Kariakoo has modern building than Posta. Pamoja na kuhamisha ofisi nyingi za serikali Dodoma Bado posta ina hadhi yake. Mkuu ulitembelea posta gan mzee. Nyinyi ndo mnakuja dar na kuishia old dar kama kisutu, kaburi moja nk na kuconclude Dar CBD.



I agree with samora avenue, Ohio street na some roads kuwa too old na BRT road kuchukua long time kuisha. But their finishing is not bad angalia Airport road, am sure hujaiona, kilwa road. south Kawawa road nk. They have proper horizontal infrastructure na Bagamoyo road will also look like that.

Mengine umetia chumvi sana kama vile unatoka Joburg, Capetown nk. Kumbe Nairobi hii inayojichokea

I actually did mention the nice parts of your CBD that you speak of - but those places constitute just 20% of the CBD. The Kisutu area you are denouncing occupies 80% of your CBD and it is beaten up. So you want the small 20% that is nice to be representative of your CBD while the remaining 80% shouldn't? Interestingly, when you want to chow us how big your CBD is you will include the 80% fully and even extend beyond it? Ndio maana nikasema CBD ya Dar haigusi ya Nairobi hata kidogo maanake I'm comparing the whole CBDs in full, sichagui visehemu visehemu.

Kama kuna chumvi nimetia iseme. Usiseme tu mengine nimetia chumvi yaseme.