Battle: Dar es Salaam vs Nairobi

[Emc2]

You are trying to sound intelligent and yet you can't hide the hideous fallacy in your brain.
An intellect would first acknowledge a problem and also commend a move forward, in that case i don't know if you have no idea about the proceedings at Kibera or better yet, you do know but you choose to ignore that fact,in itself being an utter diabolical act.
Besides, why would you decide to poke your nose anyway into Kibera yet Dar is wanting, having 90% unplanned/disorganised huts looking like makeshift houses...
So failing to do all that I'm afraid we'll have to consider you a dimwit

Tell me. Kitu gani kinakufanya useme Dar es salaam haipo planned?
Give me the master plan of Nairobi and I will give you Master plan of Dar es salaam as far as planning concerned.

 

[Lewis254]

we'll have to consider you a dimwit

a PROPER dimwit!!!
someone who focuses on people living on top of each other and doesn't consider the basic amenities..... huyu anahitaji viboko na maombi

 

[Lewis254]

Tell me. Kitu gani kinakufanya useme Dar es salaam haipo planned?
Give me the master plan of Nairobi and I will give you Master plan of Dar es salaam as far as planning concerned.

take a look at dar is slum's aerial view.... wewe saa hizi ata ukiugua tu kidogo au nyumba ipate moto (example) ambulance ama gari la kuzima moto haiwezi kukufikia maana kila mmoja amejenga his/her own 'terrible dream house zote zimestunya hakuna barabara ya moja kwa moja hadi mlangoni sasa utasaidikaje?

 

[Emc2]

take a look at dar is slum's aerial view.... wewe saa hizi ata ukiugua tu kidogo au nyumba ipate moto (example) ambulance ama gari la kuzima moto haiwezi kukufikia maana kila mmoja amejenga his/her own 'terrible dream house zote zimestunya hakuna barabara ya moja kwa moja hadi mlangoni sasa utasaidikaje?

My friend I need Master plan of Nairobi. Sitaki maelezo meengi. We are talking about planning. Do you know the meaning of planning?
Hebu soma hapa kidogo
Urban planning: is a technical and political process concerned with the development and use of land, planning permission, protection and use of the environment, public welfare, and the design of the urban environment, including air, water, and the infrastructure passing into and out of urban areas, such as transportation, communications, and distribution networks.

Urban planning is also referred to as urban and regional planning, regional planning, town planning, city planning, rural planning, urban development or some combination in various areas worldwide.

 

[Emc2]

take a look at dar is slum's aerial view.... wewe saa hizi ata ukiugua tu kidogo au nyumba ipate moto (example) ambulance ama gari la kuzima moto haiwezi kukufikia maana kila mmoja amejenga his/her own 'terrible dream house zote zimestunya hakuna barabara ya moja kwa moja hadi mlangoni sasa utasaidikaje?

Kutokana na maelezo hapo juu. Can you show me the planning of Nairobi. And I will show you for Dar es salaam.

 

[Emc2]

Enjoy Dar es salaam

 

[Emc2]

Dar es salaam

 

[IamLee]

Go study Baltimore.. Delhi, Shanghai, Tokyo and Bangkok.. Then go back again and study Washington DC... (Capitol Hill and the surroundings..

If you are are upgrading squatters mmefika wapi?! Is kibera less of a squatter now than it was 10years ago?! Squarer has less to do with roads and highrise developments... Its about improving livelihoods... And let them upgrade their housing... .. If housing and better drains electricity plus wiiide nice roads were soln.. The US wudnt be complaining about Projects.. Failed concepts.. Now they are giving you money on loans to just go with failure again...

Good for you. Keep upgrading squatter buy putn roads and electricity for majority of dwellers who have no stable source of income.. Not sure about their tomorrow.. They will still turn it into make shift.. Rest asured

You are trying to sound intelligent and yet you can't hide the hideous fallacy in your brain.
An intellect would first acknowledge a problem and also commend a move forward, in that case i don't know if you have no idea about the proceedings at Kibera or better yet, you do know but you choose to ignore that fact,in itself being an utter diabolical act.
Besides, why would you decide to poke your nose anyway into Kibera yet Dar is wanting, having 90% unplanned/disorganised huts looking like makeshift houses...
So failing to do all that I'm afraid we'll have to consider you a dimwit

Tell me. Kitu gani kinakufanya useme Dar es salaam haipo planned?
Give me the master plan of Nairobi and I will give you Master plan of Dar es salaam as far as planning concerned.

If we are still here trying to brag about how great Dar is, yet we have got clear satellite images i can access any time on my cell phone, then you are not ready to deal with the reality, and having said that, then you should proceed giving us "beautiful" images of Dar. You can ignore the true background,which is made up of houses built by mere individuals, just at the heart of the city. You know in the modern world, usually there's some little order to follow. There's a part designated purely for business, and another for industrial sector and other sectors for residential purposes.
Clearly, unless I'm myopic, y'all don't put that into consideration

 

[Lewis254]

Urban Planning comes along with all these basic amenities >>>

Urban planning: is a technical and political process concerned with the development and use of land,
planning permission,
protection and use of the environment,
public welfare,
and the design of the urban environment, including
:air,
:water,
and the infrastructure passing into and out of urban areas, such as transportation, communications, and distribution networks[/B][/COLOR]

sio plan ya kwenye makaratasi

 

[mombasite gabriel]

Sijaelewa mpaka mida hii
; nimekaa na dada mmoja kwenye daladala wakati anateremka akanikanyaga kwa nguvu nikamuuliza vipi? Kanipa bonge ya sonyo na kuniambia nilidhani bubu mbona muda wote hujaomba hata namba ya simu! Bado natafakariìi

 

[Emc2]

You are trying to sound intelligent and yet you can't hide the hideous fallacy in your brain.
An intellect would first acknowledge a problem and also commend a move forward, in that case i don't know if you have no idea about the proceedings at Kibera or better yet, you do know but you choose to ignore that fact,in itself being an utter diabolical act.
Besides, why would you decide to poke your nose anyway into Kibera yet Dar is wanting, having 90% unplanned/disorganised huts looking like makeshift houses...
So failing to do all that I'm afraid we'll have to consider you a dimwit
If we are still here trying to brag about how great Dar is, yet we have got clear satellite images i can access any time on my cell phone, then you are not ready to deal with the reality, and having said that, then you should proceed giving us "beautiful" images of Dar. You can ignore the true background,which is made up of houses built by mere individuals, just at the heart of the city. You know in the modern world, usually there's some little order to follow. There's a part designated purely for business, and another for industrial sector and other sectors for residential purposes.
Clearly, unless I'm myopic, y'all don't put that into consideration

Oaky.
Check this Drone view video. Kisha niwekee ya Nairobi

 

[Emc2]

Urban Planning comes along with all these basic amenities >>>
sio plan ya kwenye makaratasi

Sasa planning inaanza na kujenga, jenga tu ovyo bila mpango?
Ndio maana Nairobi mmeshindwa kujenga BRT kwa sababu plan mbovu. Barabara hazina nafasi.
Planning inaanzia kwenye karatasi, baada ya hapo modeling finally implementation. Nairobi na Dar es salaam bado zipo kwenye process za kujengwa so; Master Plan Design lazima iwepo.
Nionesheni ya Nairobi nami nitawapatia ya Dar es salaam.

 

[Emc2]

You are trying to sound intelligent and yet you can't hide the hideous fallacy in your brain.
An intellect would first acknowledge a problem and also commend a move forward, in that case i don't know if you have no idea about the proceedings at Kibera or better yet, you do know but you choose to ignore that fact,in itself being an utter diabolical act.
Besides, why would you decide to poke your nose anyway into Kibera yet Dar is wanting, having 90% unplanned/disorganised huts looking like makeshift houses...
So failing to do all that I'm afraid we'll have to consider you a dimwit
If we are still here trying to brag about how great Dar is, yet we have got clear satellite images i can access any time on my cell phone, then you are not ready to deal with the reality, and having said that, then you should proceed giving us "beautiful" images of Dar. You can ignore the true background,which is made up of houses built by mere individuals, just at the heart of the city. You know in the modern world, usually there's some little order to follow. There's a part designated purely for business, and another for industrial sector and other sectors for residential purposes.
Clearly, unless I'm myopic, y'all don't put that into consideration

Check tena video hii hapa:

 

[RRONDO]

Hii thread kiboko...!

 

[RRONDO]

Oaky.
Check this Drone view video. Kisha niwekee ya Nairobi

Brilliant!

 

[Lewis254]

Sasa planning inaanza na kujenga, jenga tu ovyo bila mpango?
Ndio maana Nairobi mmeshindwa kujenga BRT kwa sababu plan mbovu. Barabara hazina nafasi.
Planning inaanzia kwenye karatasi, baada ya hapo modeling finally implementation. Nairobi na Dar es salaam bado zipo kwenye process za kujengwa so; Master Plan Design lazima iwepo.
Nionesheni ya Nairobi nami nitawapatia ya Dar es salaam.

we are all developing countries.... unaeza kuwa na pla kwenye karatasi na bado haijatekelezwa.
thats why you see roadside shacks getting earmarked every single day coz that place was meant to be a road reserve!!!
We all know that 90% of dar is slum consists of Unplanned Settlements. 6% of Nairobi has Unplanned Settlements too...

 

[Emc2]

we are all developing countries.... unaeza kuwa na pla kwenye karatasi na bado haijatekelezwa.
thats why you see roadside shacks getting earmarked every single day coz that place was meant to be a road reserve!!!
We all know that 90% of dar is slum consists of Unplanned Settlements. 6% of Nairobi has Unplanned Settlements too...

Naona mnapiga kelele tu ninachotaka mniletee hapa evidences. You all know, with who? Hapa hatutaki blah blah. Show me master plan of Nairobi. Siyo kuniwekea maneno hapa. I will show you of Dar es salaam.

 

[Lewis254]

Naona mnapiga kelele tu ninachotaka mniletee hapa evidences. You all know, with who? Hapa hatutaki blah blah. Show me master plan of Nairobi. Siyo kuniwekea maneno hapa. I will show you of Dar es salaam.

yes show me those artistic designs.
we all know what's actually on the ground. unless you are a developed country

 

[Emc2]

yes show me those artistic designs.
we all know what's actually on the ground. unless you are a developed country

Kabla ya kwenda mbele zaidi soma hapa:

http://africaaustraliaconference.com/wp-content/PDF1/AAIC-13-SMEC.pdf

 

[Emc2]

yes show me those artistic designs.
we all know what's actually on the ground. unless you are a developed country

Then check hapa Modeling development of dar es salaam