SHERRIF ARPAIO
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Arsenal (The Gunners) | Special Thread
Arsenal (The Gunners) | Special Thread
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MwafrikaHalisi
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Just a reminder. All summer I was opposed of the idea Wenger was filling into our heads 'we have a good' squad so yesterday hata sijashangaa. Congratulations Arsenal and Arsene for enabling me to manage expectations.
Katavi
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Tulishazoea haya maumivu....
MwafrikaHalisi
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Watu wachache walinielewa humu, wengi waliona niko negative sana. Tumesahau mapema sana kuwa tungefungwa na Newcastle tusingekuwa kwenye CL qualifiers hilo pekee linaonesha kikosi ni dhaifu na kinahitaji wachezaji world class watatu au zaidi. Lakini tuna kocha ambaye anataka kutuaminisha kuwa kikosi kilichoingia CL qualifiers kwa HATI HATI kitabeba ubingwa msimu huu. Alas! Look where we are. Tunapigwa nyumbani na Aston Villa. Laumu refa, sawa. Lakini refa hakuwa anazuia wachezaji wetu kufunga. Haya ni matokeo ya kuwa na kikosi dhaifu. Una benchi lenye beki mmoja tu alafu useme unataka kubeba kombe?
Baada ya hapa, baada ya kujifanya wachezaji tunaotaka kuwanunua wako overpriced na sisi kung'ang'ania valuation zetu as if market inatungoja sisi, tunajikuta katika wakati ambapo tuko desperate kununua wakati we had all the time in the world. Huu ndo wakati tutapandishiwa bei zaidi kwa kuwa kila mtu anajua how desperate we are. Huu ndio wakati wa kununua magarasa kama yale tuliyofanyia jitihada kubwa kuyaondoa. Hii inaonesha ni jinsi gani Van Persie (and it hurts me to say this) alivyokuwa sawa kutoa statement na kusema anataka kuondoka kwa kuwa wanatofautiana direction na management. Yeye anataka makombe sisi 'just top four will do'. I apologize for thinking he is a c*nt before. **Unajua ni kiasi gani inauma kufungwa na Aston Villa na kisha kumuona Van Persie (aliyetoka kupiga goli mbili za ushindi kwenye ngao ya hisani) akiifungia Man United magoli mawili maridadi?**
On the other hand, this is not the Wenger I fell in love with. He is deluded. And as much as I think he is a great coach, he does not help himself. Wenger keeps saying hakuna "top top quality" players out there. So Higuain hakuwa "top top quality" lakini Sanogo ni "top top quality" si ndio? Madhara ya kukataa kutoa 30m pounds kumnunua Higuain tunayaona.. Leo kuna tetesi za kumtaka Michu. Unadhani atauzwa chini ya 25m? Na kuna tetesi release clause yake ni 30m?
I am really tired of this. And I do not care if this will pan out and we start doing well. Wenger has lost the hunger to win big. He is more concerned about developing his youngsters than helping Arsenal win trophies. I just think you chose your own fate. You make your own luck. We do not have to go through the same rubbish year after year. This is mismanagement of the Arsenal football club and there is no one else to blame than the board and Wenger who have allowed us to be mediocre and a laughing stock.
I feel sorry for the players who try the best to help the team ila uwezo wao unapoishia wanahitaji wachezaji wenye exceptional quality kuweza kuwafikisha level nyingine kama timu. This is why wachezaji wamekuwa wakiondoka year after year. Mwaka huu, kama tutaendelea hivi bila kusign wachezaji wa maana, tukatoka kapa, naomba niseme mapema kuwa nitawasupport wachezaji wote watakaotaka kuihama timu kwa kuwa hatuko ambitious enough. And one of the atakuwa Koscielny ambaye alishaweka wazi, "Sorround me with Champions or I'm off"!
Nataka kusupport timu yangu kwenye ups and downs lakini sio kwa mtindo huu wa kujitengenezea matatizo wenyewe. I used to be very positive about my team and the gaffer but I have had enough and I am not the only one here are others.
Baada ya hapa, baada ya kujifanya wachezaji tunaotaka kuwanunua wako overpriced na sisi kung'ang'ania valuation zetu as if market inatungoja sisi, tunajikuta katika wakati ambapo tuko desperate kununua wakati we had all the time in the world. Huu ndo wakati tutapandishiwa bei zaidi kwa kuwa kila mtu anajua how desperate we are. Huu ndio wakati wa kununua magarasa kama yale tuliyofanyia jitihada kubwa kuyaondoa. Hii inaonesha ni jinsi gani Van Persie (and it hurts me to say this) alivyokuwa sawa kutoa statement na kusema anataka kuondoka kwa kuwa wanatofautiana direction na management. Yeye anataka makombe sisi 'just top four will do'. I apologize for thinking he is a c*nt before. **Unajua ni kiasi gani inauma kufungwa na Aston Villa na kisha kumuona Van Persie (aliyetoka kupiga goli mbili za ushindi kwenye ngao ya hisani) akiifungia Man United magoli mawili maridadi?**
On the other hand, this is not the Wenger I fell in love with. He is deluded. And as much as I think he is a great coach, he does not help himself. Wenger keeps saying hakuna "top top quality" players out there. So Higuain hakuwa "top top quality" lakini Sanogo ni "top top quality" si ndio? Madhara ya kukataa kutoa 30m pounds kumnunua Higuain tunayaona.. Leo kuna tetesi za kumtaka Michu. Unadhani atauzwa chini ya 25m? Na kuna tetesi release clause yake ni 30m?
I am really tired of this. And I do not care if this will pan out and we start doing well. Wenger has lost the hunger to win big. He is more concerned about developing his youngsters than helping Arsenal win trophies. I just think you chose your own fate. You make your own luck. We do not have to go through the same rubbish year after year. This is mismanagement of the Arsenal football club and there is no one else to blame than the board and Wenger who have allowed us to be mediocre and a laughing stock.
I feel sorry for the players who try the best to help the team ila uwezo wao unapoishia wanahitaji wachezaji wenye exceptional quality kuweza kuwafikisha level nyingine kama timu. This is why wachezaji wamekuwa wakiondoka year after year. Mwaka huu, kama tutaendelea hivi bila kusign wachezaji wa maana, tukatoka kapa, naomba niseme mapema kuwa nitawasupport wachezaji wote watakaotaka kuihama timu kwa kuwa hatuko ambitious enough. And one of the atakuwa Koscielny ambaye alishaweka wazi, "Sorround me with Champions or I'm off"!
Nataka kusupport timu yangu kwenye ups and downs lakini sio kwa mtindo huu wa kujitengenezea matatizo wenyewe. I used to be very positive about my team and the gaffer but I have had enough and I am not the only one here are others.
MwafrikaHalisi
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Arsene Wenger tells reporters, "You got what you wanted, you should be happy," after disastrous opening day defeat
Arsene Wenger has rounded on his critics in the press following his side's opening day defeat at home to Aston Villa.
The Arsenal manager felt his team had once again played out their opening fixture in a negative atmosphere because of criticism over the club's lack of moves in the transfer market, having failed to secure the signatures of both Gonzalo Higuain and Luis Suarez.
"You got what you wanted, you should be happy," Wenger said to reporters in his post-match press conference. "Before the start the season that was all you write in the papers so what do you expect?"
Wenger, though, insisted today's 3-1 defeat was not down to a lack of summer investment.
"Could we have won the game with the players we had on the pitch? I say yes," he continued.
"If we don't spend the money, it is because we don't find the players.
"I am not the only one to work on that, we are a team that works on that and we are ready to buy the players if we find the players good enough for us.
"My job is to make the fans happy, but we haven't lost a game because of that (not spending).
"We take our work seriously and we analyse every player in the world and spend 24 hours a day doing that.
"We are ready to spend, but until we buy players we have to win football games and it is not an excuse not to win the game today."
Wenger also criticised referee Anthony Taylor for his part in Arsenal's defeat. The Gunners had led through an early Olivier Giroud goal before Christian Benteke equalised from a penalty rebound.
In what proved to be the defining moment of the match, the visitors were awarded a controversial penalty on the hour when Laurent Koscielny looked to have won the ball in his challenge with Gabriel Agbonlahor, before Benteke netted from the spot.
The France defender, booked for his challenge, was then soon shown a second yellow by Taylor for clattering into Andreas Weimann
New signing Antonio Luna added a late third for the visitors - before unhappy chants of "spend some money" rang out from the home support at full-time.
Wenger, though, was left perplexed by the whole series of events in a match which was also notable for featuring the first use of the Premier League's new goal decision system (GDS) when a 52nd-minute effort from Villa midfielder Fabian Delph struck the inside of the right-hand post and rolled across the line.
"I didn't like his performance, but more than his performance I didn't like his spirit of how he refereed the game," Wenger said of Taylor.
"I didn't like the fact the way the game was refereed and this is a deeper question that just one decision.
"I don't like to lie, I didn't like what he did.
"The linesman said he to me he did not give the penalty and he was at the level of the tackle, so why does the referee who did not give the penalty straight away suddenly give the penalty? That is what is amazing to me.
"I would understand if the linesman said it was a penalty, but you have to live with that and just because you get these decisions given against you that doesn't mean you should go on to lose the game."
The Arsenal manager added: "Not only did we lose the game, we had many kicks, many injuries. We have some problems for some people to recover for Wednesday night."
The quote is blue is why I am convinced Wenger has lost it. I'm done!
Arsene Wenger has rounded on his critics in the press following his side's opening day defeat at home to Aston Villa.
The Arsenal manager felt his team had once again played out their opening fixture in a negative atmosphere because of criticism over the club's lack of moves in the transfer market, having failed to secure the signatures of both Gonzalo Higuain and Luis Suarez.
"You got what you wanted, you should be happy," Wenger said to reporters in his post-match press conference. "Before the start the season that was all you write in the papers so what do you expect?"
Wenger, though, insisted today's 3-1 defeat was not down to a lack of summer investment.
"Could we have won the game with the players we had on the pitch? I say yes," he continued.
"If we don't spend the money, it is because we don't find the players.
"I am not the only one to work on that, we are a team that works on that and we are ready to buy the players if we find the players good enough for us.
"My job is to make the fans happy, but we haven't lost a game because of that (not spending).
"We take our work seriously and we analyse every player in the world and spend 24 hours a day doing that.
"We are ready to spend, but until we buy players we have to win football games and it is not an excuse not to win the game today."
Wenger also criticised referee Anthony Taylor for his part in Arsenal's defeat. The Gunners had led through an early Olivier Giroud goal before Christian Benteke equalised from a penalty rebound.
In what proved to be the defining moment of the match, the visitors were awarded a controversial penalty on the hour when Laurent Koscielny looked to have won the ball in his challenge with Gabriel Agbonlahor, before Benteke netted from the spot.
The France defender, booked for his challenge, was then soon shown a second yellow by Taylor for clattering into Andreas Weimann
New signing Antonio Luna added a late third for the visitors - before unhappy chants of "spend some money" rang out from the home support at full-time.
Wenger, though, was left perplexed by the whole series of events in a match which was also notable for featuring the first use of the Premier League's new goal decision system (GDS) when a 52nd-minute effort from Villa midfielder Fabian Delph struck the inside of the right-hand post and rolled across the line.
"I didn't like his performance, but more than his performance I didn't like his spirit of how he refereed the game," Wenger said of Taylor.
"I didn't like the fact the way the game was refereed and this is a deeper question that just one decision.
"I don't like to lie, I didn't like what he did.
"The linesman said he to me he did not give the penalty and he was at the level of the tackle, so why does the referee who did not give the penalty straight away suddenly give the penalty? That is what is amazing to me.
"I would understand if the linesman said it was a penalty, but you have to live with that and just because you get these decisions given against you that doesn't mean you should go on to lose the game."
The Arsenal manager added: "Not only did we lose the game, we had many kicks, many injuries. We have some problems for some people to recover for Wednesday night."
The quote is blue is why I am convinced Wenger has lost it. I'm done!
TCleverly
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ni kawaida kushindwa kugombea mchezaji na REAL MADRID,BARCELONA,BAYERN MUNICH.....lakini ukiona timu yako inakuwa OUTBID na WOLFSBURG,NAPOLI.....UR IN DEEP SHIT....
MwafrikaHalisi
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I agree but this is isn't even a question of being outbid. Its a question of the manager's willingness to spend a certain amount of money on a certain player. We have enough money to outbid anyone right now but as Ivan Gazidis once said "What excites Arsene is not necessarily what excites you.." [Nawaibia mfano, Wenger is excited by the prospect of Yaya Sanogo, what about us fans? Bleh]
Peasant
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Only fools keep on doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. The guy is obviously a fool, but some deluded fans thing he is a professor. Yes, more of a nutty professor.
TCleverly
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ok....when u see a player chooses WOLFSBURG/NAPOLI over ECL regulars like ARSENAL then there is a serious problem....what i see here is ARSENE WENGER didnt really put any effort to get these players[gustavo,higuain] and that is a huge problem for a team he claims to be title contenders!!!!or maybe ARSENAL doesnt NEED GUSTAVO or HIGUAIN but if u ask me,they so badly need them....
BelindaJacob
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ha ha..New season, same old story!! Pole jirani na bora umejizoelea!!
xir jyerphy
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Camon....when u know that u are led by a fool and u follow then u are the worst of ol fools
Rejao
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Tuachieni Arsenal yetu.....watu mna timu zenu..why kila dakika mpo kwenye hii thread mkimfundisha babu kazi?
Majority ya fans wa Arsenal Tz wameanza kuishabikia Arsenal baada ya Wenger kutua..why now mnamuona hafai? Naamini hamna anayelazimishwa kuishabikia timu yoyote...kuna timu kibao uingereza, ni muda wako wa kutuacha na Arsenal yetu!
Bila Wenger sijui Arsenal itakuwa ya namna gani! Bado namwamini Arsene!
Majority ya fans wa Arsenal Tz wameanza kuishabikia Arsenal baada ya Wenger kutua..why now mnamuona hafai? Naamini hamna anayelazimishwa kuishabikia timu yoyote...kuna timu kibao uingereza, ni muda wako wa kutuacha na Arsenal yetu!
Bila Wenger sijui Arsenal itakuwa ya namna gani! Bado namwamini Arsene!
Peasant
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Rejao
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Tuachieni Arsenal yetu.....watu mna timu zenu..why kila dakika mpo kwenye hii thread mkimfundisha babu kazi?
Majority ya fans wa Arsenal Tz wameanza kuishabikia Arsenal baada ya Wenger kutua..why now mnamuona hafai? Naamini hamna anayelazimishwa kuishabikia timu yoyote...kuna timu kibao uingereza, ni muda wako wa kutuacha na Arsenal yetu!
Bila Wenger sijui Arsenal itakuwa ya namna gani! Bado namwamini Arsene!
Majority ya fans wa Arsenal Tz wameanza kuishabikia Arsenal baada ya Wenger kutua..why now mnamuona hafai? Naamini hamna anayelazimishwa kuishabikia timu yoyote...kuna timu kibao uingereza, ni muda wako wa kutuacha na Arsenal yetu!
Bila Wenger sijui Arsenal itakuwa ya namna gani! Bado namwamini Arsene!
Papizo
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Na English mnaongea leo,
Mkuu wangu BAK pole sana kaka ndio game hizi....ila nakukaribisha kwa mikono miwili chama kubwa kule, Sasa ukiangalia kikosi ambacho kimewafunga ni kile kile nadhani mchezaji mpya wa AV ni mmoja tu...je tunaweza ku complain kwa anything kwenye game ya jana??
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Mkuu wangu BAK pole sana kaka ndio game hizi....ila nakukaribisha kwa mikono miwili chama kubwa kule, Sasa ukiangalia kikosi ambacho kimewafunga ni kile kile nadhani mchezaji mpya wa AV ni mmoja tu...je tunaweza ku complain kwa anything kwenye game ya jana??
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Manda
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Well said bro, aint Gunners fan but as an ardent EPl fan i feel tumbling of Arsenal means tumbling of EPL as well....kuna mtu pale kati inabid awajibishwe tu alongside the road..
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