Jamani mi naomba nitoe mchango wangu: Mi sidhani kama waandishi makini kama Raia Mwema na Nipashe (mwandishi ndo huyo huyo wa This Day) wanaweza kuandika kitu wasichokuwa na uhakika nacho. Mi nadhani kwamba kuonyesha passport kuwa alirudi kutoka Dubai okt 1 haina maana kuwa waandishi hawajakosea tarehe. Inawezekana kuwa alifika Geneva tarehe 5 hiyohiyo. Sasa Okt 1 ina maana gani? Pili, je kama walikosea na badala ya oktoba ilikuwa Septemba 5/
Mi nadhani Masha angetakiwa afanye full disclosure kusema hajaenda kabisaa Geneva basi tutakubali. Huyo aliyemfanyia interview TBC alikuwa pale kumpa leading questions hii si thibitisho. The question is: "Did you go to Geneva to attend the conference?" "Did you meet the aforementioned gentleman from Sangem?" Akianza kusema oh, tarehe... unamwambia, "The date doesn't matter, did you or did you not meet the Sangem representative and visit the company?" Akiendelea kukana, unamwuliza, "Are you ready to say this under oath?' Ahhh! Yaani wengine tungepata chance tungefanya "Hardtalk" wanasiasa wote wangeacha usanii wao!
Hivi kipi bora,kumpatia ajira na mtaji mgeni au kuanza kuangalia kwako kwanza kabla ya kujua unaweza au huwezi?Thread hijack??
The margin couldn't be justified unless Ndg. Chibogoyo shade light about his institution proposal. Lazima tujue proposal yake ilikuwa inatoa solution ipi, I mean, final output yake inafanana na hizi zinazogharimu Tshs. 222 bil.?
Kuna umuhimu naye aitwe kwenye Kamati (maana ameshaonesha woga kuhesabiwa) ili kama solution yake ni justifiable and secure basi waangalie namna ya kurekebisha zoezi zima kwa maslahi ya nchi.
Heheheheee....mimi hapa nipo na Mwanakijiji! Msipoangalia ishu nzima inaweza kugeuka na kuwa ishu ya nini maana ya neno "kukutana"....Lol
Ila mara nyingi ukiona mtu anaanza kubishania maana ya neno fulani na matumizi yake, basi ujue huyo mtu amekuwa "cornered" na hana ujanja tena zaidi ya kuleta za nini maana ya maneno....Lol
Nyani, hiyo ni kweli kabisa na zaidi ya hiyo utaona mheshimiwa anaanza kubishana kuhusu tarehe na mahali na madudu yote anayojua. Alomuradi asijibu swali. Wanasiasa wote ni wasanii lakini wale wa Bongo ni ze komedi orijino
Leo Masha amejaribu kujitetea wakati anahojiwa na TBC1. Hata hivyo amenishangaza pale aliposema kuwa ile barua kwa PM ilikuwa kwa ajili ya kumweleza maendeleo ya uchambuzi wa tenda (Just a note to give him a sort of progress report)???? Je kwa wale walioiona hiyo barua inafanana na progress report? Pia amekanusha kukutana na Segem huko Uswiss na akasema tarehe zilizotajwa hakuwa Geneva bali aliondoka Dar 5 Oktoba 2008. Nani anasema ukweli hapa?? Yapo mengi aliyojaribu kusema lakini jingine la kushangaza ni kuwa Segem imetolewa kwa sababu ilitoa malalamiko kuhusu tenda bila kufuata utaratibu.
Kwa hiyo LM anasema hana kashfa yoyote na hawezi kujiuzulu. Hata hivyo amesema kama kuna ushahidi wa kuonesha kuwa alivunja sheria yuko tayari kuanchia mchuma.
- Unajua kuna mjumbe mmoja wa kamati ya ulinzi aliniambia hivi, iwapo Masha atamaliza wiki hiii akiwa bado waziri, basi ni kweli atakuja kuwa rais, toka aliponiambia sasa ni wiki nne zimepita, Masha bado ni waziri.
- We are so emmotiional na huyu kijana kwamba tunasahau hata kuwa reasonable na kwamba hapa tuna-deal na siasa za taifa ambako si wananchi wote wanafikiri na kuona ishus kama sisi wengine. Eti unaweza kumshauri mwananchi kwamba waziri Masha hakuwa na makosa kwenye hii tenda kama ilivyokubaliwa na wasomi wengi baada ya a leak ya ile barua, lakini ana makosa ya kukutana na kampuni moja huko Geneva kuhusu tenda hiyo hiyo ambayo tayari inakubalika kisiasa kuwa hakuwa na makosa?
- Kweli tumeshindwa kumbana kwenye ishu ya tenda sasa tutaweza kumbana kwenye kukutana na kampuni Geneva? Sasa ninaanza kuyaamini maneno ya yule mjumbe wa kamati ya ulinzi, kwa sababu this is a free media kampeni so far inaonekana hakuna a knockout political punch ya kumuondoa Masha, sasa tusipokuwa waangalifu naye tutakuwa tunampa a free media kampnei ya urais kama ninavyoambiwa na wengi wa huko kambi ya mafisadi.
Hii ya kukutana au kutokutana na somebody in Geneva ni an easy one kutoka maana ina depend on who says what, unless kuna video ya mkutano huo kama walivyomfanya Spy chief wa Peru, otherwise hii inakuwa a free media help kwa mafisadi.
thanxs!
Just. Kupenda kujua, ilikuaje je ni kweli? kwamba,
"Lawrence Masha traveled to Geneva to attend a UN meeting on Refugees.
He boarded Swiss Air from Dar es Salaam. Before he left for Genevea, he requested his business associate, Edan Eyakuza, to call the officials from SAGEM and fix a meeting in Geneva.
"Masha met with two officials led by Chairman and CEO, JeanLin Fournereaux from a Spain Based Company, Sagim, which is one of the bidders in the nation IDs Project for three hours, trying to lay down the strategies of how to win the tender."
"Next day (6th) the minister toured the companys branch located at Max-Schmidheiny-Strasse 202 CH 9435 Heerbrugg SWITZERLAND, AS PART OF THE INVITATION OF THE CHAIRMAN.
"The meeting was coordinated by Mashas close business associate, Edan Eyakuze, from Dar es Salaam. He is the focal point for all communications between Sagim and Mr. Masha"
"The meeting took place on October 5, 2008 from 6pm-8pm(GMT) at, Mandarin Oriental Hotel, Suite No 0306."
"After the meeting, the three officials have a dinner together at the same Hotel. Masha returned in the country on October 11 at 6pm and hard a serious briefing to his business associate, Edan Eyakuze, on his way to home. He was briefing him over the phone, and two key witnesses were around, his personal assistance and a driver.":
Akiwa njiani akitokea Geneva, Katika mazungumzo yake Masha alisikika akisema, Wamejicommit 5 percent. Nadhani inatosha, kwa sababu wana orodha ya wengine pia. Lets work hard to ensure kwamba wanashinda kwa maslahi ya nchi yetu na sisi pia. Tukutane nikubrief zaidi. Wakiingia kwenye final stage, wanashinda, labda itokee miujiza."
Na hii hapa: "Their conversations over the phone lasted for about 20 minutes. They then agreed to have a meeting that evening at Regency Park Hotel."
Well said FMES,
Huyu jamaa naona anapewa umaarufu na attention ambayo haistahili. Kikubwa nachokiona hapa ni kwamba huyu jamaa deal lake halikufanikiwa (kama kweli alikuwa anataka kuwasaidia hao SAGEM). Deal limefichuliwa and the deal is off. Tunatakiwa kupambana na wale waliofanikisha deal zao, yaani mafisadi. Tupambane na akina Chenge, Lowassa, Karamagi etc. Huyu bwana mdogo keshajifunza hapa. Hawezi tena kurudia mchezo mchafu. Na wengine wengi wamejifunza kupitia yeye.
Heheheheee....mimi hapa nipo na Mwanakijiji! Msipoangalia ishu nzima inaweza kugeuka na kuwa ishu ya nini maana ya neno "kukutana"....Lol
Na mara nyingi ukiona mtu anaanza kubishania maana ya neno fulani na matumizi yake, basi ujue mtu huyo amekuwa "cornered" na hana ujanja tena zaidi ya kuleta ligi za nini maana ya neno na matumizi yake....Lol
Just. Kupenda kujua, ilikuaje je ni kweli? kwamba,
"Lawrence Masha traveled to Geneva to attend a UN meeting on Refugees.
He boarded Swiss Air from Dar es Salaam. Before he left for Genevea, he requested his business associate, Edan Eyakuza, to call the officials from SAGEM and fix a meeting in Geneva.
"Masha met with two officials led by Chairman and CEO, JeanLin Fournereaux from a Spain Based Company, Sagim, which is one of the bidders in the nation IDs Project for three hours, trying to lay down the strategies of how to win the tender."
"Next day (6th) the minister toured the company's branch located at Max-Schmidheiny-Strasse 202 CH 9435 Heerbrugg – SWITZERLAND, AS PART OF THE INVITATION OF THE CHAIRMAN.
"The meeting was coordinated by Masha's close business associate, Edan Eyakuze, from Dar es Salaam. He is the focal point for all communications between Sagim and Mr. Masha"
"The meeting took place on October 5, 2008 from 6pm-8pm(GMT) at, Mandarin Oriental Hotel, Suite No 0306."
"After the meeting, the three officials have a dinner together at the same Hotel. Masha returned in the country on October 11 at 6pm and hard a serious briefing to his business associate, Edan Eyakuze, on his way to home. He was briefing him over the phone, and two key witnesses were around, his personal assistance and a driver.":
Akiwa njiani akitokea Geneva, Katika mazungumzo yake Masha alisikika akisema, "Wamejicommit 5 percent. Nadhani inatosha, kwa sababu wana orodha ya wengine pia. Let's work hard to ensure kwamba wanashinda kwa maslahi ya nchi yetu na sisi pia. Tukutane nikubrief zaidi. Wakiingia kwenye final stage, wanashinda, labda itokee miujiza."
Na hii hapa: "Their conversations over the phone lasted for about 20 minutes. They then agreed to have a meeting that evening at Regency Park Hotel."
Cha Msingi ni kuwa hiyo kampuni imepigwa chini, awe ameongea, amepanga dili shauri yake.
Si hii kampuni haimo kwenye wazabuni?
mimi naona hapa wanaangalia zaidi vitu vingi sio bei peke yake
nazani huyu mchapaji wa serikali hana uwezo wa kuweka some features maana ni ishu ya utambulisho wa taifa so it must contain a lot of things in it na wameshaangalia upande huo wakaona solution isiwe bei bora wala bora bei iwe na uwezo thats ALL
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Just. Kupenda kujua, ilikuaje je ni kweli? kwamba,
"Lawrence Masha traveled to Geneva to attend a UN meeting on Refugees.
He boarded Swiss Air from Dar es Salaam. Before he left for Genevea, he requested his business associate, Edan Eyakuza, to call the officials from SAGEM and fix a meeting in Geneva.
"Masha met with two officials led by Chairman and CEO, JeanLin Fournereaux from a Spain Based Company, Sagim, which is one of the bidders in the nation IDs Project for three hours, trying to lay down the strategies of how to win the tender."
"Next day (6th) the minister toured the company's branch located at Max-Schmidheiny-Strasse 202 CH 9435 Heerbrugg – SWITZERLAND, AS PART OF THE INVITATION OF THE CHAIRMAN.
"The meeting was coordinated by Masha's close business associate, Edan Eyakuze, from Dar es Salaam. He is the focal point for all communications between Sagim and Mr. Masha"
"The meeting took place on October 5, 2008 from 6pm-8pm(GMT) at, Mandarin Oriental Hotel, Suite No 0306."
"After the meeting, the three officials have a dinner together at the same Hotel. Masha returned in the country on October 11 at 6pm and hard a serious briefing to his business associate, Edan Eyakuze, on his way to home. He was briefing him over the phone, and two key witnesses were around, his personal assistance and a driver.":
Akiwa njiani akitokea Geneva, Katika mazungumzo yake Masha alisikika akisema, "Wamejicommit 5 percent. Nadhani inatosha, kwa sababu wana orodha ya wengine pia. Let's work hard to ensure kwamba wanashinda kwa maslahi ya nchi yetu na sisi pia. Tukutane nikubrief zaidi. Wakiingia kwenye final stage, wanashinda, labda itokee miujiza."
Na hii hapa: "Their conversations over the phone lasted for about 20 minutes. They then agreed to have a meeting that evening at Regency Park Hotel."