Mushi,
I have urged these people to refrain from using those derogative terms but to no avail. It is really sad that this forum has sunk this low, people are obsessed with Udini and discussing trivial issues (spelling, grammar and tenses). It seems we are endowed with abundance of English teachers in this forum.
Nakubaliana kuwa as long as our self perception/proclamations that we are indeed great thinkers is concerned, we should then be held accountable accordingly,tatizo tu isiwe neat picking ama cherry picking ama sometimes even typos. Kama ni makosa ambayo kutokana na elimu watu walitakiwa wawe wameyafuta,then naona ni fair tu ku critisize.noma ni kauli chafu chafu kama Mzee Tenga na wengineo.It is sad that the forum is degenerating into a stinking den, I know tempers must fly sometimes and there is no way to herd cats, but some self restrain is in order.If not, a small dose of right censorship will be justified.
On the matter of English, I have to differ. JF should be a place of high standards, especially when it comes to people who should know.Like MPs who voluntarily choose to write in English, and their reputed policy wonks. If you present yourself as a wonk, to draw parallel and precedent from Nyerere and the history of Biafra, in English, the very least we expect from you should be the correct usage of that language.
Of course if my dear old friend Brazameni is coming to post some pictures of honies from his weekly clubbing rounds (where my son @) one would look absurd to even expect my man, who doesn't want anything to do with intellectuals and their pursuit, whose dreams are only the sands of Copa Cabana and Ipanema, the almighty greenback and its blue book, to be grammatically correct.
Kutumia lugha fasihi na sarufi inayotakiwa ni muhimu, ni sehemu ya usomi. Hatutaki kutetea ungumbaru hapa.
Sikufichi nimei report hiyo post yako,definetly post kama hizi zinafanya wengine iwe vigumu kuchangia. Huu ni upuuzi wa hali ya juu ambao hautakiwi kuvumuliwa kwenye forums za watu wenye akili timamu na wenye kujali issue zinazolikabili taifa lao....Kama ni mara ya kwanza kwa baadhi ya watembeleaji wa forum hii, halafu wakakutana na huu upupu unadhani first impression yao itakuwa vipi?
Acheni ujinga msituharibie forum bana.
It is sad that the forum is degenerating into a stinking den, I know tempers must fly sometimes and there is no way to herd cats, but some self restrain is in order.If not, a small dose of right censorship will be justified.
On the matter of English, I have to differ. JF should be a place of high standards, especially when it comes to people who should know.Like MPs who voluntaliry choose to write in English, and their reputed policy wonks. If you present yourself as a wonk, to draw parallel and precedent from Nyerere and the history of Biafra, in English, the very least we expect from you should be the correct usage of that language.
Of course if my dear old friend Brazameni is coming to post some pictures of honies from his weekly clubbing rounds (where my son @) one would look absurd to even expect my man, who doesn't want anything to do with intellectuals and their pursuit, whose dreams are only the sands of Copa Cabana and Ipanema, the almighty greenback and its blue book, to be grammatically correct.
Kutumia lugha fasihi na sarufi inayotakiwa ni muhimu, ni sehemu ya usomi. Hatutaki kutetea ungumbaru hapa.
Hawa hawa wabunge ndio wale wale kesho watasema "Nilikuwa nasoma "Wall Street Journal"....." napata mashaka sasa kama wakisoma wanaelewa hata kuelewa.
C'mon son, "Why did Nyerere supported ?", for real ?
Nakubaliana kuwa as long as our self perception/proclamations that we are indeed great thinkers is concerned, we should then be held accountable accordingly,tatizo tu isiwe neat picking ama cherry picking ama sometimes even typos. Kama ni makosa ambayo kutokana na elimu watu walitakiwa wawe wameyafuta,then naona ni fair tu ku critisize.noma ni kauli chafu chafu kama Mzee Tenga na wengineo.
Kiranga,
Kama unataka kumrekebisha mtu basi tufanye hivyo bila kumvunjia heshima. Kuanza kutukana chuo alichosoma ni kukosa ustaarabu, zaidi ya hapo unaweza kumtumia private message.
Mzee Tenga has been banned for 3 days for abusive language. Seeing at it is his first time we have gone lenient with him. Solomon David has been banned for 2 weeks for continuously using strong language in different threads. Members please refrain from the use of abusive and offensive language. It has become an issue of late and moderators will no longer tolerate it. Thank you....
Nashauri hata kama mchangiaji ame"Qoute" maneno hayo yasio mazuri basi yaondolewe point nzima...tukiacha "qoute" yenye matusi maana yake wachangiaji wanaochelewa wataona hayo matusi itakuwa haijasaidia kitu...Mzee Tenga has been banned for 3 days for abusive language. Seeing at it is his first time we have gone lenient with him. Solomon David has been banned for 2 weeks for continuously using strong language in different threads. Members please refrain from the use of abusive and offensive language. It has become an issue of late and moderators will no longer tolerate it. Thank you....
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La sivyo watumie Kiswahili tu lugha ya taifa, kwani ukiandika Kiswahili unapunguza pointi ? Au ndiyo yale ya kuabudu Kiingereza, kwamba ukiandika Kiingereza ndio unajulikana msomi, ukiandika Kiswahili mtu wa kawaida ?
Kiranga practice make perfect. Sasa mtu akikosea mwambie umekosea hapa then tunakwneda kwenye hoja. Sidahni kama kakosea sana kiasi theme ya ujumbe wake haieleweki.
Usifanye watu tusiojua kingereza kizuri kama chako au cha yule na wao waogope kuandika just beacuse ya syntax errors.
Usishangae Mchumi au engineer kushindwa kuongea au kuandika kigereza fasaha. kama Alichukua Degree ya lingustic au phonetic naweza kukubaliana na wewe.
Kiranga practice make perfect. Sasa mtu akikosea mwambie umekosea hapa then tunakwneda kwenye hoja. Sidahni kama kakosea sana kiasi theme ya ujumbe wake haieleweki..
Usifanye watu tusiojua kingereza kizuri kama chako au cha yule na wao waogope kuandika just beacuse ya syntax errors..
Usishangae Mchumi au engineer kushindwa kuongea au kuandika kigereza fasaha. kama Alichukua Degree ya lingustic au phonetic naweza kukubaliana na wewe.
Duh! Watu wana maneno kweli,wameshaanza kumwita "Mhe. did supported"
Sasa kama lugha hawaiwezi vizuri kwa nini wasiandike kwa lugha wanayoimudu? Lugha ni lugha tu. Hakuna lugha iliyo juu au iliyo bora juu ya nyenzake ili mradi lugha hiyo inatimiza wajibu wa mawasiliano ya kundi au jamii fulani. Unapolazimisha kutumia lugha ambayo hauimudu vizuri huku ukijidai wewe msomi watu tutakuona wewe mlugaluga tu.
Sasa Zitto alivyo "butcher" hizo tenses kweli utamtetea wewe? Sorry dude....that's untenable.
Sio kama namtetea but its b cs I also know hata mm my english competency is below avarage even in tanzania "standards".
Mfano mimi namudu vizuri kiswahili lakini nahitahi kumudu vizuri zaidi kingereza na siko shule wa chuo. The more nitavyoandika nakuongea na kukosolewa ndiyo nitajifunza . Na Jf ni kijiwe cha kujifunza na kufundishana.
Sasa linapokuja sula la kukosoana kwenye lugha "walimu" wasiwe kama wa enzi zile za kanumba.
Siwezi kujifunza kingereza wa kunyamaza eti kwa kuwa sijui. Msiwakatishe tamaa watu. People should feel free to use any of the two lanaguage hata kama hawaimudu vizuri.
Duh! Watu wana maneno kweli,wameshaanza kumwita "Mhe. did supported"
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Hebu kamuulizeni mtapata jibu sahihi hapo. Kwa hivyo endapo kumeonekana kahitilafu fulani kimawasiliano chonde msijumuishe UDSM kwa ujumla wake. Jamaa alifanya KUHAMIA TUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!
why did nyerere supported.....Why did nyerere opposed
Hizi lugha za watu jamani hizi, zinaumbua sana.
Ndiyo mambo ya UDSM tuliyokuwa tunasema hapa. Huyu ni Zitto Kabwe au mshashi tu kajibandika jina? Maana kama Kabwe hatari. Naona nataka kuwa kama yule mchizi aliyekuwa anadai Regia atoe namba yake ya kadi CHADEMA ndiyo aamini kwamba anayeandika madudu yale ni Regia.
Zitto anaharibu mpaka nakuwa siamini kama ni Zitto wa kweli au wa kuchonga.
Lakini kwa products za UDSM siwezi kushangaa.
Hebu acheni kunyanyapaa UDSM, hayo ni mambo yanafundishwa toka shule ya msingi mpaka sekondari. UDSM inaingiaje hapa?????????