Mazishi ya Maalim Seif nilisikia mambo 3 muhimu Ibada, Madeni na Msamaha, Wakristo wanajikita kwenye Wasifu na Mashada

[johnthebaptist]

Nilifuatilia kwa karibu shughuli za mazishi ya maalim Seif kuanzia msikitini pale Upanga hadi mazishi kule Mtambwe Pemba kupitia luninga ya Channel ten.

Kitu kikubwa nilichojifunza waislamu kwenye mazishi wanamjali zaidi marehemu kuliko wao wanaobaki.

Kwa mfano pale msikitini Upanga swala haikuchukua zaidi ya robo saa ( Ibada) kisha mwakilishi wa familia akatangaza kama kuna mtu anamdai maalim Seif basi deni hilo linahamishwa kutoka kwa marehemu kwenda kwa mwanafamilia ambaye alitambulishwa kwa wote (madeni) na mwisho mwakilishi wa familia akamuombea msamaha marehemu kwa wale wote wenye kinyongo naye ( msamaha)

Hii ni tofauti na misiba ya kikristo ambayo kama kule Kenya hutumika kisiasa na hapa nyumbani ratiba ya mazishi hutawaliwa na salamu, wasifu na mashada ya maua.

Kwenye salamu kila mtu hujielezea zaidi yeye binafsi alivyokuwa karibu na marehemu badala ya kutumia muda huo kumtakia heri mwendazake huko aendako.

Katika hili waislamu nimewakubali.

Maendeleo hayana vyama.

 

[MZEE MKUBWA]

Ukifa mambo yameisha hakuna kutakiana heri wala kumuombea msamaha marehemu bwashehe..

Mbona mambo madogo yanakupiga knockouts bwashee au ndio umebakia na akili za kumsifia mjomba tu

 

[britanicca]

Hatari

 

[Kiranga]

Mtu akishafariki habari yake imeisha.

Hata mkimtupa aliwe na ndege yeye hajui. Ingawa hilo litakuwa si utu.

Maziko ni kwa waliobaki.

 

[komrade]

Well said and noted. Naunga mkono hoja

 

[kidunula1]

Wewe unaefanya hivyo inasaidia nini!?

 

[simplemind]

Sijui coincidence ua vipi, Mazishi ya kiislamu yamejadiliwa sana kufatia kifo cha senator Kenya

I have been asked by a few of my Christian brethren about our Muslim burial rites, more so with the demise of our elder Mzee Yusuf Haji.

Firstly we rarely transport a body. You get buried where you passed away. You must be wondering Garissa would have been ideal burial place for him being a public figure. For us your burial is where maut or death will find you.

Our burials timings is mainly dictated by prayers times, remember we pray 5 times a day

Fajr. 5am or so
Dhuhur 1PM
Asr 4PM or so
Maghrib 6.30pm or so
Isha 8pm

Most of the burial prayers would coincide with the 1pm or 4pm prayers for various reasons ranging eg to allow immediate family like children to arrive etc. We try and avoid evening or nighttime burial unless it is case of accident and departed pught to be laid to rest as quickly as possible.

The body is prepared either at home or even at some mosque. Ghusl is the full body ritual purification mandatory before the performance of ritual and janaza prayer. We don't use a coffin, we have a common built contraption that is used for everyone ( returnable)

Our mosque in South C does that very well and a few masjid in Mombasa. It is a new trend across many towns in Kenya since a Muslim passing away in your town it becomes your responsibility as a fellow muslims to give the departed bro or sister a good send off and burial. Growing up in Marsabit we used to lay to rest many muslims who die in road accidents as they head to Moyale and Ethiopia.

Once the body is ready ( The departed is wrapped in a simple plain cloth ( The Kafan) and that's it . It costs less than 500 Bob.

The body is then carried away in a Janaza the common contraption and is placed at the back of the mosque awaiting the normal prayers to happen . Once the normal prayers have happened then announcement is made that we have a body of a departed bro or sister and if we could remain behind to join. It is considered a blessing to take part in such even if you were not known to the departed. We then bring the body to the front of the congregation.

Typically the son elder one will confer with the Imam ( Priest) and announce if there is anyone who owed the departed anything and if the departed owed anyone anything . Then the son or immediate family male member will announce that they will take responsibility.

We then all stand behind the Janaza and final prayers are led by the imam . Sometimes we have more than one body so they are all laid out in a line .

It takes less than 10 minutes and swiftly the body is picked and young men who most likely are not even known to the deceased jostle to be the ones carrying the departed.

Once at the graveyard immediate family members preferably sons and brothers to the deceased will go inside the grave which is always ready but we make a pillow to lay the head made out of mud.

Once the body has been removed from the Janaza the departed is laid inside the grave lying on their right side facing Kibla ( Mecca we all face Mecca to say our prayers. )

Wooden planks are placed as an enclosures inside and if you can't find wood then concrete slabs is allowed.

Once done the family members step out and soil is the poured into the grave . Again total strangers mainly young men would do it and get soiled yet they may not even be known to the departed.

Once done a quick sermon is given hardly 5 to 10 minutes and we are done

We make no speeches and there are NO protocols at the mosque or at the burial site based on your worldly position. At the mosque and burial site we are all equal.

Women are not allowed at the cemetery and if they go then they can only watch from a distance. Men carry out the entire ritual once done then family members can be left behind to say extra prayers etc.

The whole burial will not last more than 30 Minutes and you are done .

If I may have skipped anything Aalahu A'alam. Allah knows best.

I hope this quick write up helps you to understand our faith.

Mohammed Hersi
Mombasa

 

[Siku za ajabu]

Mtu akisha kufa lake limekwisha hata ufanye nini dili na waliobaki

 

[johnthebaptist]

Ukifa mambo yameisha hakuna kutakiana heri wala kumuombea msamaha marehemu bwashehe..

Mbona mambo madogo yanakupiga knockouts bwashee au ndio umebakia na akili za kumsifia mjomba tu

Msamaha ni muhimu sisi tulioishi Makete tunaelewa vizuri.

Visasi huwa vinahama kizazi hadi kizazi.

 

[Mzalendo Uchwara]

It doesn't matter, once you are dead you are dead.

 

[brazaj]

Wewe ni hayo tu ndiyo uliyoyaona bwashee? Wengine waliona zaidi achilia mbali kuwa kwenye tafakuri stahiki:

 

[Odhiambo cairo]

Waislamu hata harusi zao nazikubali. Hawana gharama za ajabu

 

[johnthebaptist]

Sijui coincidence ua vipi ,Mazishi ya kiislamu yamejadiliwa sana kufatia kifo cha senator Kenya

I have been asked by a few of my Christian brethren about our Muslim burial rites, more so with the demise of our elder Mzee Yusuf Haji.

Firstly we rarely transport a body. You get buried where you passed away. You must be wondering Garissa would have been ideal burial place for him being a public figure. For us your burial is where maut or death will find you.

Our burials timings is mainly dictated by prayers times, remember we pray 5 times a day

Fajr. 5am or so
Dhuhur 1PM
Asr 4PM or so
Maghrib 6.30pm or so
Isha 8pm

Most of the burial prayers would coincide with the 1pm or 4pm prayers for various reasons ranging eg to allow immediate family like children to arrive etc. We try and avoid evening or nighttime burial unless it is case of accident and departed pught to be laid to rest as quickly as possible.

The body is prepared either at home or even at some mosque. Ghusl is the full body ritual purification mandatory before the performance of ritual and janaza prayer. We don't use a coffin, we have a common built contraption that is used for everyone ( returnable)

Our mosque in South C does that very well and a few masjid in Mombasa. It is a new trend across many towns in Kenya since a Muslim passing away in your town it becomes your responsibility as a fellow muslims to give the departed bro or sister a good send off and burial. Growing up in Marsabit we used to lay to rest many muslims who die in road accidents as they head to Moyale and Ethiopia.

Once the body is ready ( The departed is wrapped in a simple plain cloth ( The Kafan) and that's it . It costs less than 500 Bob.

The body is then carried away in a Janaza the common contraption and is placed at the back of the mosque awaiting the normal prayers to happen . Once the normal prayers have happened then announcement is made that we have a body of a departed bro or sister and if we could remain behind to join. It is considered a blessing to take part in such even if you were not known to the departed. We then bring the body to the front of the congregation.

Typically the son elder one will confer with the Imam ( Priest) and announce if there is anyone who owed the departed anything and if the departed owed anyone anything . Then the son or immediate family male member will announce that they will take responsibility.

We then all stand behind the Janaza and final prayers are led by the imam . Sometimes we have more than one body so they are all laid out in a line .

It takes less than 10 minutes and swiftly the body is picked and young men who most likely are not even known to the deceased jostle to be the ones carrying the departed.

Once at the graveyard immediate family members preferably sons and brothers to the deceased will go inside the grave which is always ready but we make a pillow to lay the head made out of mud.

Once the body has been removed from the Janaza the departed is laid inside the grave lying on their right side facing Kibla ( Mecca we all face Mecca to say our prayers. )

Wooden planks are placed as an enclosures inside and if you can't find wood then concrete slabs is allowed.

Once done the family members step out and soil is the poured into the grave . Again total strangers mainly young men would do it and get soiled yet they may not even be known to the departed.

Once done a quick sermon is given hardly 5 to 10 minutes and we are done

We make no speeches and there are NO protocols at the mosque or at the burial site based on your worldly position. At the mosque and burial site we are all equal.

Women are not allowed at the cemetery and if they go then they can only watch from a distance. Men carry out the entire ritual once done then family members can be left behind to say extra prayers etc.

The whole burial will not last more than 30 Minutes and you are done .

If I may have skipped anything Aalahu A'alam. Allah knows best.

I hope this quick write up helps you to understand our faith.

Mohammed Hersi
Mombasa

Nimekuelewa sana.

Niliwahi kumuona mwanamke wa kiiskamu ambaye ni waziri akiweka mchanga kwenye kaburi wakati wa mazishi (marehemu alikuwa mkristo)
Je hii kidini inaruhusiwa?

 

[johnthebaptist]

Wewe unaefanya hivyo inasaidia nini!?

Nimejifunza!

 

[je parle]

Kuna watu wanadai ukifa na lako limeisha?? Kuna haja ya kutoa elimu KWA wenzetu hawa. Huenda tunawalaumu bure na kuwasimanga chini KWA chini ila kiukweli kuna vitu vingi mno hawavijui

 

[chokodari]

Mi nilijua umeongea kitu cha maana kumbe hilo tu??! Bila shaka wewe ni kilaza deni lijadiliwe ili iweje?? Mnashindwa kudaiana wakati wazima???! Hueleweki wewe

 

[chokodari]

Waislamu hata harusi zao nazikubali. Hawana gharama za ajabu

Wewe sema maisha yamekuchapa, kwani lazima kufunga harusi kubwa mbona wengi tu wanaenda kanisani mtu na mtuwe wanamaliza kingine, nikusaidie tu hii amsha amsha ya harusi inafanya watu tufanye kazi na kusaka pesa sana na ndivyo inavyotakiwa ili pale unapoona aibu mbona mwenzangu kafanya kubwa na wewe inakupa mori ya kusaka zaidi, jaribu kuchunguza waislam wengi ni masikini coz wamejizoesha wenyewe kutokutaka vikubwa na imepelekea hata kimaendeleo wapo nyuma sana kama hujui nakupa hilo

 

[Ibambasi]

Mtu akishafariki habari yake imeisha.

Hata mkimtupa aliwe na ndege yeye hajui. Ingawa hilo litakuwa si utu.

Maziko ni kwa waliobaki.

Hiyo assertion yako kuwa Marehemu anakuwa hajui haina uthibitisho, inabakia kuwa dhahania

 

[Kiranga]

Hiyo assertion yako kuwa Marehemu anakuwa hajui haina uthibitisho, inabakia kuwa dhahania

Uthibitisho ni nini na unapatikanaje?

Wewe una uthibitisho marehemu anajua?

 

[auferet dominus]

Hakuna la heri yoyote inayoweza kumwombea mtu aliyekufa kwa mujibu wa kitabu kitakatifu Biblia. Heri inatengenezwa na mtu kabla hajafa akimshirikisha Mungu. Hayo mambo ya ibada ya kumwombea marehemu ni umizimu au upagani. Soma mhubiri 9:5 inayosema kwa kuwa wafu hawajuwi neno lolote wala hawana ijara yoyote kwa kuwa kumbukumbu lao lote limetoweka. Kwa hiyo hao wakristo wanaenenda kwa mujibu wa maandiko.