Manchester United (Red Devils) | Special Thread

Forgotten · Jul 3, 2022

Msimu tunamaliza nafasi ya pili EPL timu nyingi zilicheza chini ya kiwango, msimu uliopita Chelsea walianza vizuri sana ilikuwa lazima wamalize ndani ya top 4, Spurs baada ya ujio wa Conte wakaanza kufanya vizuri sana kipindi hicho sisi tunadondosha points kipuuzi.

Halafu leo hii mtu anasema Ronaldo ndiyo sababu hatujamaliza top 4 na mtu huyohuyo msimu mzima alikuwa anaimba taarabu za Maguire asicheze, McFred siyo combo nzuri, tutafute DM, tununue CB, RB Dalot na AWB hawafai ila leo hii anakuambia RONALDO ndiyo sababu.

Kama mlikubali kuna mapungufu karibia kikosi kizima kwanini hamtaki kuamini ndiyo chanzo cha matokeo mabaya na siyo sababu ya ujio wa Ronaldo.

Ninatamani Ronaldo abaki, y'all need a humbling.

ruralofficer · Jul 3, 2022

Forgotten said:
Msimu tunamaliza nafasi ya pili EPL timu nyingi zilicheza chini ya kiwango, msimu uliopita Chelsea walianza vizuri sana ilikuwa lazima wamalize ndani ya top 4, Spurs baada ya ujio wa Conte wakaanza kufanya vizuri sana kipindi hicho sisi tunadondosha points kipuuzi.

Halafu leo hii mtu anasema Ronaldo ndiyo sababu hatujamaliza top 4 na mtu huyohuyo msimu mzima alikuwa anaimba taarabu za Maguire asicheze, McFred siyo combo nzuri, tutafute DM, tununue CB, RB Dalot na AWB hawafai ila leo hii anakuambia RONALDO ndiyo sababu.

Kama mlikubali kuna mapungufu karibia kikosi kizima kwanini hamtaki kuamini ndiyo chanzo cha matokeo mabaya na siyo sababu ya ujio wa Ronaldo.

Ninatamani Ronaldo abaki, y'all need a humbling.

Its shame kwa club,Kitendo cha kutaka kuondoka inaonesha Cr7 yupo ambitious kuliko man utd.
Nafikiri hata akiondoka hakuna wa kumlaumu amejitoa sana last season.

Forgotten · Jul 3, 2022

ruralofficer said:
Its shame kwa club,Kitendo cha kutaka kuondoka inaonesha Cr7 yupo ambitious kuliko man utd.
Nafikiri hata akiondoka hakuna wa kumlaumu amejitoa sana last season.

Hakuna wa kumlaumu aisee, kuna muda kuna wachezaji nawaonea huruma ukitoa pesa watakazopata hakuna kitu watatoka watasema nilishinda kitu fulani nikiwa United.

Haya masuala ya DNA ni upuuzi wachezaji wanataka mafanikio ya uwanjani pesa zipo kila mahali. Wengi wanamtukana Pogba na wengine pia washaanza kumgeukia Ronaldo ila hii timu haipo serious hata kidogo. Hakuna kitu cha kueleweka kinachoendelea.

Nemesis · Jul 3, 2022

Hakuna mchezaji aliyenunuliwa mpaka sasa. Wakati msimu unaisha ilidhaniwa MUFC itakuwa the busiest team sokoni. Wachezaji waliopo ukiondoa CR7 na De Gea hakuna mwenye confidence tena. De Gea mwenyewe atachoka kujituma kwa team inayompa 0 Goal Difference ktk mechi 38 za EPL. Kuna tatizo kubwa mahali la kujadili siyo kumaliza MB kumjadili CR7.

Belo · Jul 3, 2022

I think yanayotokea now yanaendelea ku-expose matatizo ambayo management yetu iliyafanya huko nyuma (Woodward era).Tulikosea sana kufanya decision(technical decision) kwenye mambo mengi hatukuwa na contingent plan na pia tulikuwa tunachelewa sana kufanya decision kwenye mambo ya msingi.Kabla hujamsajili kocha/mchezaji lazima ujue weakness/strength zake na jinsi ya kuzi-utilize na nini cha kufanya ikiwa mchezaji/kocha atafeli.Recently tumeona jinsi Man City,Liverpool,Bayern Munich,Real Madrid jinsi wanavyohandle jinsi ya ku-replace wachezaji

I hope the new management wanajifunza haya makosa hayatajirudia

Darmian · Jul 3, 2022

Volatility said:
Ubora upi alileta Ronaldo au ustriker upi?

Msimu wa 2019/20 Man Utd ilifunga magoli 66
msimu wa mwaka 2020/21 ilifunga magoli 73

this was an upward trend na timu ikamaliza ligi ikiwa nafasi ya pili, then akaja striker mleta magoli

msimu wa mwaka 2021/22 ikafunga magoli 57.

Making 2021/22 among the worst in goal scored record post fergie error.

sababu
2018/19 timu ilifunga magoli 65.
2017/18 timu ilifunga magoli 68.

hivyo expectation, false expectation iliyokuwapo kwamba ataleta magoli, na hizi propositions kwamba oohoo ni top goal scorer (as if timu zingine hazina top scorers) na kwamba alipokuwa hachezi timu ilikuwa haifungi, zote ni uzandiki tu.

Ronaldo made the team collectively weak in every aspect.

It's true,Ronaldo made the team collectively weak in every aspect.

Darmian · Jul 3, 2022

Bavaria said:
Kuna replacement plan ya Ronaldo?

Mpaka sasa ku-sign midfield tunasua sua, replacement tutaipata msimu huu?

Ni sawa kuendelea na mshambuliaji mzee ambaye moyo wake ushahama kwenye timu yetu?.

Will Jr · Jul 3, 2022

Bavaria said:
Mbona mnamsemea ETH?

What if ronaldo ni key player wa ETH?

Mnaongelea mchezaji anaekupa magoli 25 ya uhakika, nani wa kureplace? Rashford? Martial?

Mpaka sasa kusajili kunasumbua, sasa kupata striker wa kureplace ronaldo mnaongelea £100M kwenda mbele. Wakati DeJong wa £85M anatutoa jasho mwezi sasa.

United ya sasa haina hela, haina influence, haina Champions League. Hakuna mchezaji serious anaekuja, labda afuate mshahara mkubwa tu.

Kuweni serious guys.

Soma tena labda utanielewa, BTW im not a fan of this football club, im just trying to have opinions.

lembu · Jul 3, 2022

Volatility said:
huyu Ronaldo nilijaribu kumuelezea kutokea kwenye angle ambayo wengi hawakutaka kuitumia lakini nikiaishia kuitwa pro mesi na kutolewa kauli zingine za dhihaka.

huyu alichangia kwa kiasi kikubwa kuharibu trend ya mafanikio ya timu iliyopata msimu wa 2020/21, mchezaji wa aina yake hakuwa kwenye plans za OLE, na kimsingi alikuwa mzigo kwa timu kuliko msaada.

huyu alikwenda pale akiamini atatembelea nyota ya mafanikio ya 2020/21 kupata kick ya kuiwezesha timu kuchukua makombe, akaishia kumvuruga kocha na kila mchezaji.

kama ten hag anajielewa auachilie huu mzigo uondoke with immediate effect

Blaa bla
Mchezaji kafunga goli 24 kwa timu ameharibu nini, kawaambia akina Bruno wasicheze?, kamwaga simu dressing room. Huu umbea ni wa karne kisa tu damu yako haimpendi Ronaldo. Ngoja aondoke awaachie litimu lenu. Mou alisema vizuri kuhusu Manuure kwamba hata akiondoka Man united bado haitakaa vizuri kwa sababu tatizo la msingi halishughulikiwi. Akiondoka Ronaldo bado mtaangamia kwa sababu you don't want to address the real problem within the club

Belo · Jul 3, 2022

Darmian said:
Ni sawa kuendelea na mshambuliaji mzee ambaye moyo wake ushahama kwenye timu yetu?.

Pogba,Lingard wanted to go klabu haikuwauza baadae wakaondoka free,kama mchezaji anataka kuondoka aachwe aondoke klabu lazima iwe na contingent plan.Di Maria,Varane,Ramos ,CR7 walivyotaka kuondoka Perez hakuwazuia na ili-generate kiasi kubwa akafanya replacement na klabu bado iko stable.

Will Jr · Jul 3, 2022

Volatility said:
Ubora upi alileta Ronaldo au ustriker upi?

Msimu wa 2019/20 Man Utd ilifunga magoli 66
msimu wa mwaka 2020/21 ilifunga magoli 73

this was an upward trend na timu ikamaliza ligi ikiwa nafasi ya pili, then akaja striker mleta magoli

msimu wa mwaka 2021/22 ikafunga magoli 57.

Making 2021/22 among the worst in goal scored record post fergie error.

sababu
2018/19 timu ilifunga magoli 65.
2017/18 timu ilifunga magoli 68.

hivyo expectation, false expectation iliyokuwapo kwamba ataleta magoli, na hizi propositions kwamba oohoo ni top goal scorer (as if timu zingine hazina top scorers) na kwamba alipokuwa hachezi timu ilikuwa haifungi, zote ni uzandiki tu.

Ronaldo made the team collectively weak in every aspect.

Kwa hiyo kupungua kwa idadi ya magoli imesababishwa na Ronaldo, how?

computerarsenal · Jul 3, 2022

Volatility said:
Ubora upi alileta Ronaldo au ustriker upi?

Msimu wa 2019/20 Man Utd ilifunga magoli 66
msimu wa mwaka 2020/21 ilifunga magoli 73

this was an upward trend na timu ikamaliza ligi ikiwa nafasi ya pili, then akaja striker mleta magoli

msimu wa mwaka 2021/22 ikafunga magoli 57.

Making 2021/22 among the worst in goal scored record post fergie error.

sababu
2018/19 timu ilifunga magoli 65.
2017/18 timu ilifunga magoli 68.

hivyo expectation, false expectation iliyokuwapo kwamba ataleta magoli, na hizi propositions kwamba oohoo ni top goal scorer (as if timu zingine hazina top scorers) na kwamba alipokuwa hachezi timu ilikuwa haifungi, zote ni uzandiki tu.

Ronaldo made the team collectively weak in every aspect.

Tupe na data za defence kwa kipindi hicho achana na magoli ya kufunga

Will Jr · Jul 3, 2022

Bavaria said:
Kuna replacement plan ya Ronaldo?

Mpaka sasa ku-sign midfield tunasua sua, replacement tutaipata msimu huu?

Post yangu uliyoquote nilimaanisha hiki kitu, nashangaa hukunielewa.

Uwepo wa Ronaldo upfront unamruhusu kocha kuimprove squad kwenye other positions. Kuondoka kwa Ronaldo either united waspend big money kubuy CF wa Kumreplace Ronaldo kitu kitachozuia kuimprove other positions (financially wise) OR waimprove other positions huku wakitafuta cheap CF kitu kinachowarudisha nyuma quality wise.

Ten hag hili suala analiangalia kiufundi zaidi wakati management wanaliangalia kiufundi & kiuchumi.

computerarsenal · Jul 3, 2022

Volatility said:
Ubora upi alileta Ronaldo au ustriker upi?

Msimu wa 2019/20 Man Utd ilifunga magoli 66
msimu wa mwaka 2020/21 ilifunga magoli 73

this was an upward trend na timu ikamaliza ligi ikiwa nafasi ya pili, then akaja striker mleta magoli

msimu wa mwaka 2021/22 ikafunga magoli 57.

Making 2021/22 among the worst in goal scored record post fergie error.

sababu
2018/19 timu ilifunga magoli 65.
2017/18 timu ilifunga magoli 68.

hivyo expectation, false expectation iliyokuwapo kwamba ataleta magoli, na hizi propositions kwamba oohoo ni top goal scorer (as if timu zingine hazina top scorers) na kwamba alipokuwa hachezi timu ilikuwa haifungi, zote ni uzandiki tu.

Ronaldo made the team collectively weak in every aspect.

FACT

Xmonster · Jul 3, 2022

Will Jr said:
Post yangu uliyoquote nilimaanisha hiki kitu, nashangaa hukunielewa.

Uwepo wa Ronaldo upfront unamruhusu kocha kuimprove squad kwenye other positions. Kuondoka kwa Ronaldo either united waspend big money kubuy CF wa Kumreplace Ronaldo kitu kitachozuia kuimprove other positions (financially wise) OR waimprove other positions huku wakitafuta cheap CF kitu kinachowarudisha nyuma quality wise.

Ten hag hili suala analiangalia kiufundi zaidi wakati management wanaliangalia kiufundi & kiuchumi.

So kweli

Xmonster · Jul 3, 2022

computerarsenal said:
Tupe na data za defence kwa kipindi hicho achana na magoli ya kufunga

Elewa sentence ya mwishon kabisa aliyoandika

lembu · Jul 3, 2022

Jose Mourinho felt three Man United players were 'too soft'.
According to The Times, Mourinho believed that three Man United players he inherited were "too soft" - Marcus Rashford, Luke Shaw and Anthony Martial. The Portuguese manager gave the trio "the tough love treatment."

Mourinho is said to have wanted to work with players who were "powerful, strong, arrogant and preferably experienced." He publically criticised Shaw, while Rashford said he found it "tough" to play under the former United manager. Mourinho also reportedly wanted to sell Martial.

However, in 2018, the former Real Madrid manager read reports that Man United were "determined to renew Martial’s contract." This reportedly prompted Mourinho to act and attempt to move the forward on.

"Mourinho was not a fan of the Frenchman," it reads in The Times.

"So he started spreading the word on United’s 2018 pre-season tour to America that he would not object to his departure, provided he went to 'the right club', which presumably meant one outside of the Premier League."

Jose Mourinho Man United players

Mourinho v Martial.
Yet, Mourinho's efforts to sell Martial were thwarted by Ed Woodward, the club's executive vice-chairman, in an episode that sums up the dysfunctional nature of Man United over the last decade.

"Woodward dug his heels in," it reads. "Martial, reportedly one of Joel Glazer’s favourite players, would stay.

"There was a fear among the United hierarchy that if Martial left, he could go on to embarrass them by becoming one of the best players in Europe."

Mourinho's doubts about Martial have arguably been proven correct.

The French forward netted 23 goals in 48 games under Ole Gunnar Solskjaer during the 2019/20 season, but his form then sharply declined.

Martial fell out of favour and was allowed to join Sevilla on loan in January.

The 26-year-old only scored once in 12 games for the La Liga side and is due to return to Man United ahead of next season. He has two years left on his contract with the club.

DullyJr · Jul 3, 2022

lembu said:
Jose Mourinho felt three Man United players were 'too soft'.
According to The Times, Mourinho believed that three Man United players he inherited were "too soft" - Marcus Rashford, Luke Shaw and Anthony Martial. The Portuguese manager gave the trio "the tough love treatment."

Mourinho is said to have wanted to work with players who were "powerful, strong, arrogant and preferably experienced." He publically criticised Shaw, while Rashford said he found it "tough" to play under the former United manager. Mourinho also reportedly wanted to sell Martial.

However, in 2018, the former Real Madrid manager read reports that Man United were "determined to renew Martial’s contract." This reportedly prompted Mourinho to act and attempt to move the forward on.

"Mourinho was not a fan of the Frenchman," it reads in The Times.

"So he started spreading the word on United’s 2018 pre-season tour to America that he would not object to his departure, provided he went to 'the right club', which presumably meant one outside of the Premier League."

Jose Mourinho Man United players

Mourinho v Martial.
Yet, Mourinho's efforts to sell Martial were thwarted by Ed Woodward, the club's executive vice-chairman, in an episode that sums up the dysfunctional nature of Man United over the last decade.

"Woodward dug his heels in," it reads. "Martial, reportedly one of Joel Glazer’s favourite players, would stay.

"There was a fear among the United hierarchy that if Martial left, he could go on to embarrass them by becoming one of the best players in Europe."

Mourinho's doubts about Martial have arguably been proven correct.

The French forward netted 23 goals in 48 games under Ole Gunnar Solskjaer during the 2019/20 season, but his form then sharply declined.

Martial fell out of favour and was allowed to join Sevilla on loan in January.

The 26-year-old only scored once in 12 games for the La Liga side and is due to return to Man United ahead of next season. He has two years left on his contract with the club.

Simba wana tatizo la mshambuliaji,fanyeni swap na kagere maana ana sifa zote ambazo mou kazitaja

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allypipi · Jul 3, 2022

Japo na mpenda sana ronaldo ila naona kwangu akiondoka ni vyema kuliko hakibaki.

Manchester united kwasasa ni timu inayo jijenga kwaiyo tunaitaji vijana waweze kujiamini zaidi unapokuwa na strike kama ronaldo mbele ni strike ambaye anapenda yeye peke ake ndo awe anaonekana anafunga tu.

Kwangu naona ronaldo aende tu tupo kujenga timu yenye ushindani Kwasasa na Cr7 yeye anawaza rekodi tu ndo jambo la muhimu kwake.

Naona aende timu zenye zitamfanya kuweka rekodi zake kwa sasa.

Bavaria · Jul 3, 2022

Darmian said:
Ni sawa kuendelea na mshambuliaji mzee ambaye moyo wake ushahama kwenye timu yetu?.

Ni kwasababu timu haina ambition zozote sokoni hiyo ndo sababu. Ronaldo ana ambition kali kuliko timu nzima na management yake.

Hata mashabiki nao wameshaanza kupoteza matumaini na timu yao hasa wanachofanya sokoni.

The best way, ni kumuuza kwa bei nzuri, tukaongeze hela ya kumleta hata DeJong.

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