JK akosekana maadhimisho ya kimbari - Kigali, Rwanda

[TEKNOLOJIA]

Hilo la kusema ni mitandao ndio inachochea uadui kati ya tanzania na rwanda mwandosya kadanganya kama kweli kasema hivyo!!!

Viongozi wa rwanda na hotuba zao,maneno yao na magazeti yao ndio waliosababisha kuongezeka kwa uadui hasa.Hizo zingine kama mwandosya kasema ni porojo au mazungumzo baada ya habari.

Kwahiyo tumuamini nani kati ya wewe na Mwandosya?

 

[TEKNOLOJIA]

Rwanda is not our business,We got our own mess to deal with in Tanzania,It's CCM grand corruption & graft as well as maladministration,This is our business!!

 

[magwio]

Alilkuwa na sherehe ya kitaifa alikuwa znz .
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[East African Eagle]

Kwahiyo tumuamini nani kati ya wewe na Mwandosya?

Agalia hadi mwisho hotuba kwanza ya kagame halafu ya kikwete ndani kwenye hii video ya youtube ya dakika nne halafu uamue mwenyewe nani aliyesababisha uadui ukue.Uwe mvumilivu sikiliza hadi mwisho utajua

Umubano w'u Rwanda na Tanzaniya wifashe nabi kagame na kikwete - YouTube

 

[Kimbunga2]

mm nauliza?mbona mauji kagame aliyo yafanya congo yahaangaliwi?maana kwamjibu wa vyombo vyahabari,namashirika binafsi zaidi yawatu mil2 waliuawa,namajeshi ya rwanda.propaganda hizi zakulindana zitaisha lini?naunafiki.

 

[Commanche]

Haukuwa uamuzi wa busara kwa Rais Jakaya Kikwete kutokwenda Kigali kwa ajili ya maadhimisho muhimu kwa eneo la maziwa makuu. Aibu kubwa kwa Tanzania. Anyway, Rwanda itaendelea kuimarika, les faits sont tetus.

 

[Doppelganger]

Bora agegede kuliko kwenda kwa kagame(silly thought)

 

[Commanche]

1. Tanzania is not a dictatorship like Rwanda where a president's personal feelings dictate the feeling of the entire nation. We are a democracy, even if kikwete personally dislike kagame that would be his business not the nation's that's why Mkapa was there to represent him.

2. Tanzanians do not have a problem with Rwandans in general, we never had. But Tanzanians including me now do have a problem with kagame. Just like we never had a problem with Ugandans but a problem with Iddi Amin.

jMali ndugu yangu hivi huoni umuhimu wa Rais Kikwete kwenda kuhudhuria maadhimisho nyeti kama yale? Hasa hasa baada ya vita vya maneno kati ya nchi zetu hizi mbili hivi karibuni? Kama kweli yeye ni mstaarabu na anaamini katika kusuluhisha migogoro kwa njia ya amani kwa nini hakuonyesha mfano wa ujirani mwema katika hili? Nikiwa mwana CCM na mtanzania nimesikitishwa na kitendo hiki cha Rais JK kutokwenda Kigali.

 

[East African Eagle]

Haukuwa uamuzi wa busara kwa Rais Jakaya Kikwete kutokwenda Kigali kwa ajili ya maadhimisho muhimu kwa eneo la maziwa makuu. Aibu kubwa kwa Tanzania. Anyway, Rwanda itaendelea kuimarika, les faits sont tetus.

Kilicho kikubwa kwako usidhani ni kwa kila mtu ni kikubwa.

Sherehe hizo zinaibua majonzi na vilio na uibuaji visasi visivyoisha tu kwa waliouliwa ndugu zao au kulazimika kuwa wakimbizi nchi zingine wa pande zote mbili wa kihutu na kitusi.

Sikukuu kama hiyo ingetumika kama reconcilliation day ambapo wahutu na watusi mfano wangealikwa kula pamoja kunywa pamoja kucheza pamoja,kutembeleana n.k ili kuua kumbu kumbu mbaya ya yaliyotokea na si kuamsha kumbu kumbu mbaya na kufanya watu walale wanaweweseka genocide na kulala na hasira usiku kucha .

Lengo la maadhimisho hayo kama itabadilika kuwa ya kuhimiza watu wasahau mabaya yaliyopita wajenge rwanda mpya nitakuwa wa kwanza Kumwomba Raisi Kikwete afike na awe wa kwanza kuwasili kigali.Ibadilishwe iwe siku ya furaha watu kufurahi mfano rwanda mpya yenye mambo mapya na yenye jamii mpya ya watu wanaopendana wahutu na watusi isiwe siku kama ya msiba ambapo historia inafufuliwa upya watu wanaanza kulia upya n.k

Kikwete kutokwenda yuko sahihi mauddhui ya maadhimisho yamekaa kuibua vilio na visasi vya yaliyopita si ku-reconcile na kujenga rwanda mpya.Mfano badala ya kuonyesha mafuvu ya waliouliwa wangeonyesha mafanikio rwanda iliyofanya tokea kimbari na kuonyesha jinsi wahutu na watusi wanavyoishi vizuri kwa upendo na amani n.k Na hotuba zilenge kwenye rwanda mpya sio kwenye kuibua historia na kuanzakuvurumisha mitusi kwa sijui wafaransa sijui wahutu sijui watusi hiyo siku itumike kama reconcilliation day na siku ya kuonyesha watu new rwanda sio "old genocide era Rwanda"

Viongozi wengi kususa wanasusa maudhui ya hayo maadhimisho hayako vizuri.

 

[NyumbiiBombii]

Hilo la kusema ni mitandao ndio inachochea uadui kati ya tanzania na rwanda mwandosya kadanganya kama kweli kasema hivyo!!!

Viongozi wa rwanda na hotuba zao,maneno yao na magazeti yao ndio waliosababisha kuongezeka kwa uadui hasa.Hizo zingine kama mwandosya kasema ni porojo au mazungumzo baada ya habari.

Duh! Kazi kweli kweli! Mwakilishi wa nchi tena mgeni rasmi amesimama mbele ya ulimwengu na printed speech akiwepo hata mwakilishin wa UN akasisitiza jinsi ujirani na udugu kati ya Rwanda na Tanzania si kitu kigeni...kabla ya wakoloni kutukaga tulikuwa nchi moja...akaenda far na kusema migongano ya hapa na pale ni very unfortunate ila zinafanyiwa kazi na pande mbili ili kudumisha uhusiano mzuri ambao these two countries have always had. He openly blamed the media kwa kukuza hata gap ndogo inayotokea kwa manufaa yao binafsi ambayo sisi hatuyafahamu...akakumbushia negative impact ya magazeti na redio Rwanda kabla ya genocide kwa kupandikiza chuki na hayo ni mazungumzo baada ya habari? Seriously? Ndugu yangu EastAfrican Eagle wewe na wenzako wachache akina JMALI mnaojiita watanzania (My Foot!) mna manufaa gani na TZ kuingia vita na Rwanda? Mtafaidi nini personally wenzetu? Hata kama ugomvi huo ulikuwepo na pande husika zikataka kuuondoa mbona mnang'aka sana?Hampendi amani? Mbona hiyo si hulka ya Kitanzania ninayoifahamu mimi? Ngoja nijaribu kufikiria wewe ulitegemea nini jana and I might be right! Ulitegemea hivi: 1. Ulitegemea Tz isingetuma mwakilishi yeyote Rwanda...pole sana alienda mzee wetu Mkapa..JK alikuwa Zbar for Karume Day na kijana wake alikuwa anasherehekea ushindi Chalinze...hilo linatosha na lin akubalika. Pili sio lazima Rais ahudhurie kila jambo... 2. Ulitegemea maadhimisho hayo hata TZ yangekosa muitikio wa serikali...pole sana Mwandosya alikuwepo and He delivered a SPEECH...ya ukweli iliyoonyesha highest degree of maturity and readiness to build and not destroy the ties between the two countries...pole sana ndugu yangu! Baada ya kusema hayo ngoja tu nisisitize kitu...Kagame is not immune to making mistakes and neither is JK a saint. Wote ni binadamu wenye uwezo wa kusema au kutenda kinyume na walivotakiwa kama mimi na wewe tulivo hatujakamilika. La muhimu ni kutumia makosa kwa manufaa ya better tomorrow...which I believe is brighter. Acheni chuki zisizo na msingi. Acheni kuchochea vita kwani haina macho! Haya God bless you all na msichoke kumuomba Mungu awaondolee hiyo dhambi na mizizi ya chuki. Songa mbele!

 

[Idimi]

Angalizo imetokea nn hata JK akose kutuwakilisha? pia tunajua ni kiongozi mpenda kusafiri kila uchao

Profesa Mwandosya aliwakilisha nchi, badala ya JK. Umeridhika?

 

[TEKNOLOJIA]

Duh! Kazi kweli kweli! Mwakilishi wa nchi tena mgeni rasmi amesimama mbele ya ulimwengu na printed speech akiwepo hata mwakilishin wa UN akasisitiza jinsi ujirani na udugu kati ya Rwanda na Tanzania si kitu kigeni...kabla ya wakoloni kutukaga tulikuwa nchi moja...akaenda far na kusema migongano ya hapa na pale ni very unfortunate ila zinafanyiwa kazi na pande mbili ili kudumisha uhusiano mzuri ambao these two countries have always had. He openly blamed the media kwa kukuza hata gap ndogo inayotokea kwa manufaa yao binafsi ambayo sisi hatuyafahamu...akakumbushia negative impact ya magazeti na redio Rwanda kabla ya genocide kwa kupandikiza chuki na hayo ni mazungumzo baada ya habari? Seriously? Ndugu yangu EastAfrican Eagle wewe na wenzako wachache akina JMALI mnaojiita watanzania (My Foot!) mna manufaa gani na TZ kuingia vita na Rwanda? Mtafaidi nini personally wenzetu? Hata kama ugomvi huo ulikuwepo na pande husika zikataka kuuondoa mbona mnang'aka sana?Hampendi amani? Mbona hiyo si hulka ya Kitanzania ninayoifahamu mimi? Ngoja nijaribu kufikiria wewe ulitegemea nini jana and I might be right! Ulitegemea hivi: 1. Ulitegemea Tz isingetuma mwakilishi yeyote Rwanda...pole sana alienda mzee wetu Mkapa..JK alikuwa Zbar for Karume Day na kijana wake alikuwa anasherehekea ushindi Chalinze...hilo linatosha na lin akubalika. Pili sio lazima Rais ahudhurie kila jambo... 2. Ulitegemea maadhimisho hayo hata TZ yangekosa muitikio wa serikali...pole sana Mwandosya alikuwepo and He delivered a SPEECH...ya ukweli iliyoonyesha highest degree of maturity and readiness to build and not destroy the ties between the two countries...pole sana ndugu yangu! Baada ya kusema hayo ngoja tu nisisitize kitu...Kagame is not immune to making mistakes and neither is JK a saint. Wote ni binadamu wenye uwezo wa kusema au kutenda kinyume na walivotakiwa kama mimi na wewe tulivo hatujakamilika. La muhimu ni kutumia makosa kwa manufaa ya better tomorrow...which I believe is brighter. Acheni chuki zisizo na msingi. Acheni kuchochea vita kwani haina macho! Haya God bless you all na msichoke kumuomba Mungu awaondolee hiyo dhambi na mizizi ya chuki. Songa mbele!

Umewamaliza kabisa hao wahutu wanaojiita Watanzania.Watanzania hatuna asili ya kupenda vita lakini hawa ndugu zangu East African na JMALI mentality zao za chuki dhidi ya Wanyarwanda wenzao mpaka zinanitisha,Maana Watanzania hatuko hivi kabisa!!

 

[NyumbiiBombii]

"MTANZANIA" Jmali hujambo? Naona siku hizi umepunguza makali safi sana maana post za nyuma kuwezi kuongea bila kutaja kuwa watusi ni wabaya na hawastahili kuishi as if you had a hand in creating them...huku ukisahau kuwa ulizaliwa ukawakuta na utawaacha...anyway that was by the way si nia yangu kukukumbusha ya nyuma. Sasa naona umefocus kwa Kagame...all the best! Anyway recent official statement ya TZ kuhusu Kagame kwa sasa ni ile ya Mwandosya jana Mlimani City...nilikuwepo. Ikimsifia kama kiongozi aliyeweza kusimama na kuitoa nchi from ashes to success...ikionyesha nia na jitihada za dhati ya nchi hizi mbili kusana palipovuja ili kudumisha udugu wa nchi hizi mbili ambao umedumu toka Enzi za mababu. Sasa sijui una maoni gani kwa hili...ni jambo jema wakae waelewane au Kagame hafai full stop kwa hiyo TUMPIGE!? LOL!

 

[East African Eagle]

Anyway recent official statement ya TZ kuhusu Kagame kwa sasa ni ile ya Mwandosya jana Mlimani City...nilikuwepo. Ikimsifia kama kiongozi aliyeweza kusimama na kuitoa nchi from ashes to success...ikionyesha nia na jitihada za dhati ya nchi hizi mbili kusana palipovuja ili kudumisha udugu wa nchi hizi mbili ambao umedumu toka Enzi za mababu. Sasa sijui una maoni gani kwa hili...ni jambo jema wakae waelewane au Kagame hafai full stop kwa hiyo TUMPIGE!? LOL!

Hakuna anayebisha kuwa Kagame hajafanya kitu.Na Tanzania imefanya makubwa kwa Rwanda sana tu.Wanyarwanda wengi wamekulia hapa wamesomea kodi zetu na kula sehemu kubwa ya raslimali zetu kabla ya kurudi kwao kujenga nchi yao pamoja na kuwa wao hawajatoa hotuba ya kuisifia Tanzania!!

Anyway hongera Mwandosya kwa kuwasifia wakwe zake wa Rwanda maana kaoa mnyarwanda sijui mganda!!Sasa tuonyeshe official hotuba au statement ya viongozi wa Rwanda waliyotoa kumsifia Kikwete au Tanzania basi.

 

[Jospina]

jMali ndugu yangu hivi huoni umuhimu wa Rais Kikwete kwenda kuhudhuria maadhimisho nyeti kama yale? Hasa hasa baada ya vita vya maneno kati ya nchi zetu hizi mbili hivi karibuni? Kama kweli yeye ni mstaarabu na anaamini katika kusuluhisha migogoro kwa njia ya amani kwa nini hakuonyesha mfano wa ujirani mwema katika hili? Nikiwa mwana CCM na mtanzania nimesikitishwa na kitendo hiki cha Rais JK kutokwenda Kigali.

we had our own important issues to remember, waache wafu wazike wafu wao! bravo jk

 

[Commanche]

Kilicho kikubwa kwako usidhani ni kwa kila mtu ni kikubwa.

Sherehe hizo zinaibua majonzi na vilio na uibuaji visasi visivyoisha tu kwa waliouliwa ndugu zao au kulazimika kuwa wakimbizi nchi zingine wa pande zote mbili wa kihutu na kitusi.

Sikukuu kama hiyo ingetumika kama reconcilliation day ambapo wahutu na watusi mfano wangealikwa kula pamoja kunywa pamoja kucheza pamoja,kutembeleana n.k ili kuua kumbu kumbu mbaya ya yaliyotokea na si kuamsha kumbu kumbu mbaya na kufanya watu walale wanaweweseka genocide na kulala na hasira usiku kucha .

Lengo la maadhimisho hayo kama itabadilika kuwa ya kuhimiza watu wasahau mabaya yaliyopita wajenge rwanda mpya nitakuwa wa kwanza Kumwomba Raisi Kikwete afike na awe wa kwanza kuwasili kigali.Ibadilishwe iwe siku ya furaha watu kufurahi mfano rwanda mpya yenye mambo mapya na yenye jamii mpya ya watu wanaopendana wahutu na watusi isiwe siku kama ya msiba ambapo historia inafufuliwa upya watu wanaanza kulia upya n.k

Kikwete kutokwenda yuko sahihi mauddhui ya maadhimisho yamekaa kuibua vilio na visasi vya yaliyopita si ku-reconcile na kujenga rwanda mpya.Mfano badala ya kuonyesha mafuvu ya waliouliwa wangeonyesha mafanikio rwanda iliyofanya tokea kimbari na kuonyesha jinsi wahutu na watusi wanavyoishi vizuri kwa upendo na amani n.k Na hotuba zilenge kwenye rwanda mpya sio kwenye kuibua historia na kuanzakuvurumisha mitusi kwa sijui wafaransa sijui wahutu sijui watusi hiyo siku itumike kama reconcilliation day na siku ya kuonyesha watu new rwanda sio "old genocide era Rwanda"

Viongozi wengi kususa wanasusa maudhui ya hayo maadhimisho hayako vizuri.

Mkuu East African Eagle maadhimisho hayo ni kuhusu reconciliation unayoiongelea. Kama ulimsikiliza Rais Kagame au kuisoma speech yake utaona kuwa imesheheni reconciliatory rhetoric backed by concrete facts on the steps made in the last 20 years. Ameongea vizuri sana mkuu. Na hili la kuwasema wafaransa na wabeligiji halina mjadala. Amekiri kuwa hawabebeshi zigo lote la lawama lakini ukweli utabaki pale pale ya kuwa suala la u-hutu, u-tutsi, u-twa is a self-serving, superficial,colonial imposition on a people previously living in harmony. Hili liko wazi kwa wote wapendao ukweli isipokuwa genocidaire wenye uchu wa damu. Kama ungeielewa kwibuka20 vizuri ungejua kuwa mantiki nzima ni kuwaleta wanyarwanda wote pamoja bila kujali "kabila". Sisi tuliokuwapo Mlimani City kuadhimisha siku hii tulifurahishwa na maneno ya hekima na busara kubwa na Mheshimiwa Mwandosya akiwa ni mgeni rasmi. Rais JK ilistahili aende Kigali kuadhimisha kama jirani mwema. Kutokwenda kwake kunatufanya wapenda amani tuone kuwa anakumbatia anti-Kagame sentiments.

 

[Commanche]

we had our own important issues to remember, waache wafu wazike wafu wao! bravo jk

Kiongozi what important issues may I ask? Are you referring to that communist Zanzibari dictator that lived and died by the gun? How can you equate the demise of one commie to over a million people slaughtered senselessly in their own country? Tafadhali mkuu, this is indefensible.

 

[Sangarara]

We kondoo kweli aisee.
Kasome historia kwanza ya mauaji ya kimbari-Rwanda.
Kagame is the smartest president in East and Central Africa.
Unajua kwa diplosia kati ya Rwanda na Ufaransa iko tete?

Hivi aende kufanya nn? kwenda huko ni kufurahia mauaji aliyofanya Kagame mwenyewe dhidi ya watu wake.:flypig::flypig::flypig:

 

[MWANAKA]

Ndugu yangu habembelezwi mtu! hebu angalia hizo speech zilizo tolewa siku ya kuazimisha kumbukumbu ya mauaji ya kimbali ya watutsi.

Kagame, Museveni Slam West's Role in Rwanda Genocide

President Paul Kagame has vowed Rwanda will remain steadfast in the pursuit of truth about the genocide even if it means angering powerful western countries, a veiled attack on France which he recently accused of supporting and arming the genocidal regime that perpetrated the 1994 horror.
“Historical clarity is a duty of memory that we cannot escape. Behind the words “Never again”, there is a story whose truth must be told in full no matter how uncomfortable,”’ said Kagame on Monday during a function at Amahoro Stadium to commemorate 20 years after genocide. Attended by nine African Presidents including Yoweri Museveni, Salva Kiir, Uhuru Kenyatta among other high profile officials such UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon, the function was also aimed at honouring the country’s resilience after the 1994 slaughter in which one million people mainly Tutsi were butchered. Genocide survivors in the stadium broke down in tears as they remembered how their dear ones were killed in the cruelest manner. Kagame said the people who planned and carried out the genocide were Rwandans, but the history and root causes go beyond the beautiful country.

“This is why Rwandans continue to seek the most complete explanation possible for what happened,” he added amidst a thunderous applause from thousands of Rwandans in stadium. “We do so with humility as a nation that nearly destroyed itself. But we are nevertheless determined to recover our dignity as a people.” The President’s statements come against the backdrop of a heated diplomatic row between France and Rwanda. Paris this week announced it would not attend the commemoration events in Kigali after Kagame accused the 1994 French government of complicity in the genocide. Kigali responded by withdrawing its accreditation to the French ambassador to Rwanda for the Kwibuka event at Amahoro Stadium today. Role of France Officials say the local genocidaires were not alone. For example protected by the French-led Operation Turquoise, genocidaires continued the "work" in the Gikongoro area for longer than in other parts of Rwanda. Dubbed a humanitarian intervention, Operation Turquoise created a safe haven for the genocidaires. French troops built a volleyball court on top of mass graves and, as the genocide continued, regularly gathered there to play. The Rwanda Patriotic Army liberated the area at the end of August 1994. Kagame spits fire Kagame said Rwanda is determined to recover her dignity as a people.

“20 years is short or long depending on where you stand but there is no justification for false moral equivalence. The passage of time should not obscure facts, lessen responsibility or turn victims into villains,” said Kagame. “People cannot be bribed into changing their history. And no country is powerful enough, even when they think that they are, to change the facts. Therefore when we speak out about responsibilities of external actors and institutions, it is because genocide prevention demands historical clarity of all of us, not because we wish to shift blame onto others,” added the President who led the RPF that stopped the genocide. He said the most devastating legacy of European control of Rwanda was the transformation of social distinctions into so-called races. ”We were classified and dissected, and whatever differences existed were magnified according to a framework invented elsewhere. The purpose was neither scientific nor benign; but ideological; to justify colonial claims to rule over and civilize supposedly lesser peoples. We are not.” Kagame said the ideology was already in place in the 19[SUP]th[/SUP] century and was then entrenched by the French missionaries who settle here and Rwanda’s two thousand years of history were reduced to a series of caricatures based on bible passages and on myths told to explorers. Kagame said Rwanda was supposed to be a failed state.
“Watching the news today, it is not hard to imagine how we could have ended up. We could have become a permanent UN protectorate with little hope of recovering or nationhood or engulfed in a never-ending civil war with endless streams of refugees and our children sick and uneducated,” he observed.

The President said Rwandans chose to be accountable and stay together. He highlighted some of Rwanda’s achievements such as creating the vision 2020 to meet development goals; attracting investors; fighting corruption and investing in broadband that reaches 30 districts. He expressed hope that half of Rwandans are under 20 years of age and that nearly three quarters are under 30. “Seeing these young people carry the flame of remembrance, to all corners of the country over the last three months, gives us enormous hope.” Museveni Earlier, Museveni blamed the African traditional chiefs for not mobilising enough to defeat the colonialists. Museveni further accused western imperialists for dividing Africa along ethnic lines that later bred violence and genocide. The President used the platform to lash at countries that continue to harbour genocidaires, insisting they will not be tolerated. He said former Rwandan dictator who killed Tutsi was trained and supported by Europeans. Museveni also pointed out that "those hobnobbing with genocidaires will be fought and defeated.

" Museveni, who supported the RPF to defeat what he described as "traitors," congratulated the government of Rwanda for turning around lives of many through economic transformation and empowerment. He also noted that should genocidaires attempt to return to "kill people" they can "always count on the people of Uganda." African Union Commission Chairperson Dlamini Zuma emphasised that Africa's diversity is her strength. She describes the 1994 genocide as a scar on "our collective conscience," adding," no group should ever be allowed to commit genocide."

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon called for efforts to prevent genocide and also appreciated Rwanda’s journey to economic prosperity. He said UN should have done more to stop the genocide.

- See more at: Chimpreports.com-Uganda News - Kagame, Museveni Slam West's Role in Rwanda Genocide

tunasubiri siku atakapotolewa kwenye hicho kiti cha urais ndo atatambua yeye ni nani hapa duniani!!! Madaraka yanampa kiburi cha hali ya juu sana huyu m.s.s
h.e.n.z.i

 

[TEKNOLOJIA]

tunasubiri siku atakapotolewa kwenye hicho kiti cha urais ndo atatambua yeye ni nani hapa duniani!!! Madaraka yanampa kiburi cha hali ya juu sana huyu m.s.s
h.e.n.z.i

Harakisheni kabla JK hajatoka madarakani kwasababu akitoka tu ndo basi tena urafiki wetu na Rwanda utarudi pale pale tena utakuwa imara kuliko ilivyowahi kutokea.Cry me a river teh teh teh