Dr. Kitila ampa tabu Thabo Mbeki

[Kiranga]

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Africa Rolls Back HIV/Aids, Namibia Scores Well

By Alvine Kapitako, 22 November 2012

Windhoek - A United Nations report reveals a more than 50 percent reduction in new HIV infections has been achieved across 25 low- and middle-income countries, including Namibia.


More than half of these countries are in Africa - a region affected the most by HIV/AIDS.
In some of the countries which have the highest HIV prevalence in the world, rates of new HIV infections have been cut dramatically since 2001 - by 68 percent in Namibia, 73 percent in Malawi, 71 percent in Botswana, 58 percent in Zambia, 50 percent in Zimbabwe and 41 percent in South Africa and Swaziland, a press release from the Joint United Nations Programme on HIV/AIDS (UNAIDS) reveals.


"In addition to welcome results in HIV prevention, sub-Saharan Africa has reduced AIDS-related deaths by one third in the last six years and increased the number of people on antiretroviral treatment by 59 percent in the last two years alone. Sub-Saharan Africa is one of the most affected regions in terms of HIV/AIDS prevalence rates."

The report reveals that antiretroviral therapy has emerged as a powerful force for saving lives. In the last 24 months, the number of people accessing treatment increased by 63 percent globally. In sub-Saharan Africa, a record 2.3 million people have access to treatment. China has increased the number of people on HIV treatment by nearly 50 percent in the last year alone.


Furthermore, there were more than half a million fewer deaths in 2011 than in 2005.
The largest drop in AIDS-related deaths is being experienced in countries where HIV has the strongest grip. Neighbouring South Africa saw 100 000 fewer deaths, Zimbabwe nearly 90 000, Kenya 71 000 and Ethiopia 48 000 fewer deaths than in 2005. The report also indicates that impressive gains were made in reducing tuberculosis (TB) related AIDS deaths in people living with HIV.


The UNAIDS Executive Director, Michel Sidibé, in response to the report was quoted as saying the pace of progress is quickening. "What used to take a decade is now being achieved in 24 months," Sidibé said, adding that "we are scaling up faster and smarter than ever before. It is the proof that with political will we can reach our shared goals by 2015."

According to the Namibian National Sentinel Survey report of 2010, HIV prevalence among pregnant women attending antenatal care in Namibia was down to 18.8 percent compared to 22 percent - the highest peak during 2002. In Namibia, about 95 percent of people living with the HIV virus are on antiretroviral treatment.

There is also a reduction in new HIV infections in children. Half of the global reductions in new HIV infections in the last two years have been among newborn children. "It is becoming evident that achieving zero new infections in children is possible," said the UNAIDS executive director.


"I am excited that far fewer babies are being born with HIV. We are moving from despair to hope," Sidibé further said.
Despite the encouraging progress in stopping new HIV infections, the total number of new HIV infections remains high at 2.5 million, the report indicates.


It further outlines that to reduce new HIV infections globally a combination of HIV prevention services needs to be brought to scale. An example is scaling up voluntary medical male circumcision, which has the potential to prevent an estimated one in five new HIV infections in eastern and southern Africa.


Sidibé said UNAIDS would focus on supporting countries to accelerate access to HIV testing and treatment. "Now that we know that a rapid and massive scale-up is possible, we need to do more to reach key populations with crucial HIV services," said Sidibé. The report was launched in Geneva, Switzerland, on Tuesday ahead of the World AIDS Day commemoration.
World AIDS Day is commemorated on December 01, every year.

 

[Companero]

Umesikia jana rates zimeanza kushuka katika nchi zilizokuwa na highest prevalence?

Hata zisingeshuka, with viongozi kama kina Mbeki na Kikwete ambao basically wana encourage watu waende kwa babu wa Loliondo na Sangoma, na populations kama zetu surely you can't say we have been doing everything and practicing ABC?

Wabongo wana practice ABC?

Walianza na ABC kisha wakaambiwa dili ni C hasa baada ya kuja kwa ARVs hence Mbeki's clarion call to tackle the root of the problem - poverty (of the mind, body and soul/spirit), which translates to diseases (of the body, mind and soul/spirit)!

 

[Kiranga]

Hizo ni tautologies tu - abracadabra na somersaults - za conventionalists masquerading as dissidents' dissidents!

Politicization of science has led conventionalist champions of singularity and convergence to shun, nay, vilify dissidents!

Remember Galileo!

Abracadabra? the proof is in the pudding.

tell this to Mbeki.

"What used to take a decade is now being achieved in 24 months," Sidibé said, adding that "we are scaling up faster and smarter than ever before. It is the proof that with political will we can reach our shared goals by 2015."

Now Mbeki is looking like the buffoon and Zuma the intellectual!

The largest drop in AIDS-related deaths is being experienced in countries where HIV has the strongest grip. Neighbouring South Africa saw 100 000 fewer deaths, Zimbabwe nearly 90 000, Kenya 71 000 and Ethiopia 48 000 fewer deaths than in 2005. The report also indicates that impressive gains were made in reducing tuberculosis (TB) related AIDS deaths in people living with HIV.

 

[Companero]

Now Mbeki is looking like the buffoon and Zuma the intellectual!

The Zuma who took a shower to wash away HIV?

 

[Kiranga]

The Zuma who took a shower to wash away HIV?

The same one, Mbeki's buffoonery is risking elevating this unschooled buffoon of buffoons (Zuma).

When people will look at the larger context, Zuma's shower will look forgivable in light of his willingness to work against HIV, and Mbeki's astute intellectuallism will be the true buffoonery in what I consider the pinnacle of irony.

 

[Companero]

The same one, Mbeki's buffoonery is risking elevating this buffoon of buffons.

When people will look at the larger context, Zuma's shower will look forgivable in light of his willingness to work against HIV, and Mbeki's astute intellectuallism will be the true buffoonery in what I consider the pinnacle of irony.

Of course given that the conventionalists ensured that his dissidence does not go as far as tackling the root of the problem hence maintaining the status quo!

"When I[Gevisser] asked him[Mbeki] in 2007 how he felt about having to withdraw from the Aids debate, he told me it was 'very unfortunate' that his initiative had been 'drowned'" - Mbeki admits he is still Aids dissident six years on | World news | The Guardian

 

[DSM]

waambie hawa jamaa wanakuwa wabishi utafikiri nini sijui

Lets call a spade aspade and not a spade a spoon. ni kweli Mzee Mbeki alifiwa na mtoto wake aliyefariki kwa Ugonjwa wa Ukimwi ambao kwa mtazamo ma Mzee Mbeki kwamba ugonjwa huo unasababishwa na umasikini na sio virusi vya ukimwa. Sasa mbona mtoto wake ambaye alikuwa tajiri alikufa kwa ukimwi.
Pia acheni mawazo mgando mtu akiugua na kufariki na ugonjwa wa ukimwi hamna haja ya kuficha kitu, mbona mzee mandela yeye alitangazia umma kwamba mtoto wake aliyefariki alifariki kwa ukimwi. Hakuna cha mambo ya huku kwetu utasikia eti kafa kwa mkanda wa jeshi, mara presha sijui kisukari.Wakati mtaani watu tunajua mtu kaondoka na ngoma.
Kitilya was very right with such a question, inaonekana mtazamo wa mbeki kuhusisha ukimwi na umasikini haukuwa dhahiri alikuwa anatudanganya ni kweli ukimwi unasababishwa na virusi vya ukimwi na sio umasikini kama alivyokuwa anatutangazia mbeki. Hapo kitilya mkumbo alimtoa knock out mzee mzima mbeki. hakuna ubishi

 

[Kiranga]

Of course given that the conventionalists ensured that his dissidence does not go as far as tackling the root of the problem hence maintaining the status quo!

"When I[Gevisser] asked him[Mbeki] in 2007 how he felt about having to withdraw from the Aids debate, he told me it was 'very unfortunate' that his initiative had been 'drowned'" - Mbeki admits he is still Aids dissident six years on | World news | The Guardian

Mbeki personifies the epitomy of "the worst of both worlds". Lack of courage coupled with pride.

He cannot stand up for what he believe, yet at the same time he doesn't want to concede his juvenile vacuous loftiness that over-hypothesized at the expense of millions of South Africans.

I would understand if Mbeki was a University professor on the edge of research, but when you are president, you have to work with what's proven (HIV causes AIDS) and leave the controversial hyperbole to academicians and researchers.

South Africa had the chance to lead on this, and register these numbers we are seeing now since the Mbeki administration. Mbeki threw that opportunity away.

This is why he cannot answer this question.Hyperbole can go only so far.

 

[Companero]

Mbeki personifies the epitomy of "the worst of both worlds". Lack of courage coupled with pride.

He cannot stand up for what he believe, yet at the same time he doesn't want to concede his juvenile vacuous loftiness that over-hypothesized at the expense of millions of South Africans.

I would understand if Mbeki was a University professor on the edge of research, but when you are president, you have to work with what's proven (HIV causes AIDS) and leave the controversial hyperbole to academicians and researchers.

South Africa had the chance to lead on this, and register these numbers we are seeing now since the Mbeki administration. Mbeki threw that opportunity away.

This is why he cannot answer this question.Hyperbole can go only so far.

With the aid of counterfactuals, you may see the bigger picture - an opportunity lost once again for silencing yet another African Galileo!

"You see, the presentation of the matter, which is actually quite wrong, is that the major killer disease on the African continent is HIV/Aids, this is really going to decimate the African population! So your biggest threat is not unemployment or racism or globalisation, your biggest threat which will really destroy South Africa is this one!" - Mbeki admits he is still Aids dissident six years on | World news | The Guardian

 

[Kiranga]

With the aid of counterfactuals, you may see the bigger picture - an opportunity lost once again for silencing yet another African Galileo!

"You see, the presentation of the matter, which is actually quite wrong, is that the major killer disease on the African continent is HIV/Aids, this is really going to decimate the African population! So your biggest threat is not unemployment or racism or globalisation, your biggest threat which will really destroy South Africa is this one!" - Mbeki admits he is still Aids dissident six years on | World news | The Guardian

The question is not whether HIV/ AIDS is a major killer or not.

The question is, whether or not HIV/AIDS is a killer or not.

If you are dying of AIDS because at some point Mbeki could have stopped the unchecked spread of HIV by antiviral drugs, it matters very little whether AIDS is the number one killer or the number 4080 killer.

Death is death. Mbeki had a chance to rise to this call, and he did not rise, he cowered, he convoluted, he obfuscated, he hypothesized, he lectured, he posed dissidence while actually supporting the ignorance of a Sangoma culture status quo, he annointed himself the African Renaissance man while truly he was nothing more than a privileged ombudsman charlatan.

Kama HIV halikuwa tatizo namba moja Afrika ya Kusini, na kulikuwa na mengine makubwa hayo aliyoyataja, nini kilimzuia Mbeki kushughulikia yote, kuanzia hayo ya unemployment, racism, globalization na HIV/AIDS? Alikuwa na serikali ya mguu mmoja? A government that could not chew gum and walk at the same time?

Hizo habari za unemployment ni obfuscation. What has unemployment to do with admitting that HIV causes AIDS?

Hata huyo Kikwete wetu ambaye kasoma Manzese anajua tuna high unemployment lakini hawezi kutaka ku obfuscate kwamba the direct cause of AIDS is HIV.

Yaani Mbeki kajishusha kichizi. Alikuwa na nafasi ya kuwa one of the giants wa Afrika lakini kajireduce kuwa ni kamtu ka kujitetea tetea kila siku na kadiri miaka inavyoenda na HIV research inavyoendelea ndo anaonekana even more of a laughingstock.

Ndo maana anaona uvivu hata kujibu maswali sasa.

 

[Companero]

Death is death. Mbeki had a chance to rise to this call, and he did not rise, he cowered, he convoluted, he obfuscated, he hypothesized, he lectured, he posed dissidence while actually supporting the ignorance of a Sangoma culture status quo, he annointed himself the African Renaissance man while truly he was nothing more than a privileged ombudsman charlatan.

Kama HIV halikuwa tatizo namba moja Afrika ya Kusini, na kulikuwa na mengine makubwa hayo aliyoyataja. Nini kilimzuia Mbeki kushughulikia yote, kuanzia hayo ya unemployment, racism, globalization na HIV/AIDS? Alikuwa na serikali ya mguu mmoja? A government that could not chew gum and walk at the same time?

You are only seeing what transpired because you cannot see what would have transpired had we supported him to uproot the root cause!

"George Bernard Shaw, who was an atheist, said, `You cannot say Christianity has failed because it has never been tried.' It is the same with socialism: you cannot say it has failed because it has never been tried" - Ubepari Dissident

 

[Eric Cartman]

It depends I meet him on what setting.

Mbeki was at a breakfast roundtable that discussed the role of African leadership in determining the future of the continent.

Kitila's question was pertinent in every way.

You say the aim was to discuss the future of the continent, and you ask about his past comments (i don't dispute his remarks were absurd, nevertheless it wasn't a priority point considering the facts of the matter).

This is where your choices lie, here is the man who once lead a nation with the strongest african economy, with many similar resources to your country only you with the advantage of not having inside vouchers in terms of makaburu. Here is a man who led a corrupt regime, i can go and on in terms of similar problems.

You have that chance of getting first hand response in many of our shared problems in his perspective and you choose the outdated question, I could understand if the question was about how we deal with the HIV problem, but surely not a provoking question.

Wengine wanalipwa malaki just to appear na kabisa wana-demand what sort of question ought not to be asked, but people are happy to pay those sums just to hear about their expertise opinions through their niche experiences, you get that chance with one of those few people and you choose to annoy him.

he should have known better on this one.

 

[Eric Cartman]

Goes to prove my "strongman" theory.

Sasa huyu Mbeki aliyeshindwa kuongoza nchi ya chama chenye nguvu kama ANC unamuona ana mafanikio gani?

Mbeki ni failure, na swali hili linathibitisha. Kashindwa hata kujibu.

The mere fact he managed to outwit many within the party for his nomination shows he was respected and trusted by many sasa sijui wewe umehitimisha vipi ujinga wake?

 

[Kiranga]

You are only seeing what transpired because you cannot see what would have transpired had we supported him to uproot the root cause!

"George Bernard Shaw, who was an atheist, said, `You cannot say Christianity has failed because it has never been tried.' It is the same with socialism: you cannot say it has failed because it has never been tried" - Ubepari Dissident

You my friend are an ideologue, devoid of and allergic to facts that do not fit your bespoken and presupposed lofty fictions.

You cannot analogize that butchered Shaw quote to this Mbeki charade simply because the advent of scientific research has relegated Mbeki to the garbage bin of history. Had science turned out evidence that "ugali wa muhogo wenye funza" causes HIV, I would have been among the first people to uphold Mbeki as a true African visionary.

Instead Mbeki turned out to be a gambler of lives.On whom when future generations will perfect the science of attributing responsibilities, will shoulder the responsibility for the death of millions of Africans.

He had the wherewithal and influence to stop the unchecked spead of HIV/AIDS.Instead he told his people to go to Sangomas and drink some locally brewed concoctions.

Mbeki cannot escape that legacy to his grave.the intelligent thing for him to do now would be to own up to his gigantic, epic, failure to lead.

And to see young Africans excuse him on some ideologues tip is adding insult to injury.

 

[Kiranga]

The mere fact he managed to outwit many within the party for his nomination shows he was respected and trusted by many sasa sijui wewe umehitimisha vipi ujinga wake?

This is the guy who could not finish his term in office because that buffoon Zuma ousted him.

That same buffoon Zuma who was trying to sanitize himself against HIV by showering after unprotected sex.

That right there tells you so much about Mbeki's intelligence.

Thabo Mbeki amebebwa na umaarufu wa Govan Mbeki tu.

Watoto wa intellectuals wanaojidai na wao ni intellectuals just because baba zao walikuwa intellelctuals - kama rafiki yangu mmoja hapa- always wanakuwa na complex ya kutaka kuji prove wako super intellectual.

In the process wana expose utupu wao.

 

[Eric Cartman]

This is the guy who could not finish his term in office because that buffoon Zuma ousted him.

That same buffoon Zuma who was trying to sanitize himself against HIV by showering after unprotected sex.

That right there tells you so much about Mbeki's intelligence.

Thabo Mbeki amebebwa na umaarufu wa Govan Mbeki tu.

Watoto wa intellectuals wanaojidai na wao ni intellectuals just because baba zao walikuwa intellelctuals - kama rafiki yangu mmoja hapa- always wanakuwa na complex ya kutaka kuji prove wako super intellectual.

In the process wana expose utupu wao.

As it over occurred to you ya kwamba kuna wakati watu wanachukua maamuzi magumu kwa faida ya wengine kuliko personal interest zao kwa makosa madogo tu, hilihali kutovunja morale ya wengine au kurudisha nyuma movement za wengi?

 

[Kiranga]

As it over occurred to you ya kwamba kuna wakati watu wanachukua maamuzi magumu kwa faida ya wengine kuliko personal interest zao kwa makosa madogo tu, hilihali kutovunja morale ya wengine au kurudisha nyuma movement za wengi?

Hapa kwa suala la HIV/AIDS kuchukua maamuzi magumu kwa faida ya wengine kungekuwa kukubali kwamba HIV inasababisha AIDS, kuwapa wahanga antiviral zinazohusika affordably, kupunguza HIV/AIDS prevalence na maambukizo, na kuondokana na quackery ya kusema HIV haisababishi AIDS (na at the same time Mbeki alijaribu kuitibu kwa mitishamba by the way)

Nakubaliana na wewe kwamba kuna wakati watu wanachukua maamuzi magumu sio tu kwa faida ya wengine waliopo, bali hata kwa vizazi vijavyo. Mbeki hakufanya hivyo.

Ukiangalia maambukizi from ground zero, kwa jicho la kuangalia "Brownian motion" ya maambukizi, utajua kwamba maabukizi yanavyodhibitiwa mapema zaidi, ndivyo udhibiti wa maambukizi zaidi kwa mbele zaidi unavyokuwa rahisi. This is basic viral/ bacterial propagation couternance.Ndo maana madaktari wanataka mgonjwa asicheleweshwe kupewa dawa, kwa sababu unavyozidi kuchelewa kutoa dawa kwa mgonjwa ndo virusi/ bacteria wanavyozidi kuzaliana. This is not limited to one patient. If you think of the entire planet as a biosphere, the leap of transferring this concept to a whole society is not that impressive. Early treatment causes less infections in the future. even if you don't want to spend the money on saving the lives of the existing patients, spend the money to cut infections. Mbeki did not see it that way.

Part of the tragedy is that Mbeki had so much clout, Africa was behind him, the Pharmaceuticals were somewhat prepared to compromise, but he chose to be the smuggest ideologue in the face of all prudence!

Maambukizi yanaweza kuangaliwa kama geometric progression zaidi - not exactly, emphasis on zaidi- zaidi ya arithmetic progression (geometric progression ya 2,4,16,256,65536 na arithmetic progression 2,4,6,8,10) ukiidhibiti geometrical progression mapema.

Mbeki alikuwa na nafasi ya kuicheck growth at the early stages of a geometric progression, he lallygagged, he oblomoved, he schmoozed, he labalabaed, he did everything but led in the right direction.

 

[Companero]

Watoto wa intellectuals wanaojidai na wao ni intellectuals just because baba zao walikuwa intellelctuals - kama rafiki yangu mmoja hapa- always wanakuwa na complex ya kutaka kuji prove wako super intellectual.

In the process wana expose utupu wao.

You my friend are an ideologue, devoid of and allergic to facts that do not fit your bespoken and presupposed lofty fictions.

You cannot analogize that butchered Shaw quote to this Mbeki charade simply because the advent of scientific research has relegated Mbeki to the garbage bin of history. Had science turned out evidence that "ugali wa muhogo wenye funza" causes HIV, I would have been among the first people to uphold Mbeki as a true African visionary.

Instead Mbeki turned out to be a gambler of lives.On whom when future generations will perfect the science of attributing responsibilities, will shoulder the responsibility for the death of millions of Africans.

He had the wherewithal and influence to stop the unchecked spead of HIV/AIDS.Instead he told his people to go to Sangomas and drink some locally brewed concoctions.

Mbeki cannot escape that legacy to his grave.the intelligent thing for him to do now would be to own up to his gigantic, epic, failure to lead.

And to see young Africans excuse him on some ideologues tip is adding insult to injury.

invoking ad hominem is more often than not a sign that the invoker is doing exactly what s/he is accusing the other of doing -in this particular case, 'ideologue-izing'

"to generalize is to be an idiot" - a generalizer

 

[Viper]

HIV leads to Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome ... That's the bottom line fact... But sio kila HIV patient must have AIDS kama akifata.masharti ya dawa na lishe sahihi .. Sioni why one would argue about this while there dozens of medical journal publications . Nenda PubMed.com or newengland journal of medicine www.nejm.com

 

[Kiranga]

invoking ad hominem is more often than not a sign that the invoker is doing exactly what s/he is accusing the other of doing -in this particular case, 'ideologue-izing'

"to generalize is to be an idiot" - a generalizer

Except that one cannot be an ideologue without an ideology!