Current four star Generals in Tanzania

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USA (the United States of America) ni nchi yenye muundo wa shirikisho wa nchi 52 (Federal), kila nchi ina gavana na senata wake ambapo jeshi la polisi linawajibika kwao kwa sheria walizojitungia. Jeshi pekee ndio linapokea amri kutoka kwa amiri jeshi mkuu ambaye ni Rais

Laiti kama Afrika nayo ingekuwa USA (the United States of Africa) hapo ndipo ingefaa wawepo hao majenerali wengi, lakini kwa Tanzania ambayo inaundwa na mikoa ambayo karibu kila kitu ni tegemezi kutoka serikali kuu kasoro kwa machache kupitia serikali za mitaa itawezekanaje uwe na majenerali labda kwa kanda nane na utawadhibiti vipi? Rejea kilichotokea Minnesota kwa Minneapolis lutoka kwa rai waliokasirika kuuwa George Floyd ulinganishe na uvamizi wa jeshi kwenye kituo fulani cha kuhesabia na kujumlisjia kura na kupora 'servers' ndio ujue athari za amri ni zipi.

Hoja yako ni ipi hasa?
Kwani hakuna nchi ambazo si shirikisho zenye Active Uniformed 4 Star General zaidi ya mmoja?

 

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Kwa nini?

Mbona kwingine haiko hivyo?

Uongozi wa kijeshi huenda kwa ranks na kwamba mdogo kwa cheo hawezi kumuongoza ( command) mkubwa wake. Iwapo viongozi wa rank moja (Mf. Maj.gen)wanakuwa pamoja inaangaliwa aliyetangulia kwenye cheo ndiye hupewa heshima ya ukuu

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Uongozi wa kijeshi huenda kwa ranks na kwamba mdogo kwa cheo hawezi kumuongoza ( command) mkubwa wake. Iwapo viongozi wa rank moja (Mf. Maj.gen)wanakuwa pamoja inaangaliwa aliyetangulia kwenye cheo ndiye hupewa heshima ya ukuu

Marekani kwenye majenerali 40 na kitu huwa wanaongozanaje?

 

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Siyo Marekani tu yenye majenerali wa nyota nne jeshini…

Hujui unachokiongelea!

Hapa kwa Mzee Kaguta Museven mbona wapo
Active Four Star Generals 9
Liutenant Generals 5
Major General 12
Brigadiers 56

 

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Hoja yako ni ipi hasa?
Kwani hakuna nchi ambazo si shirikisho zenye Active Uniformed 4 Star General zaidi ya mmoja?

Hata huko Marekani idadi ya hao 4 Star General haiamuliwi na uwepo wa Federation bali ukubwa na division za jeshi.

Federation has nothing to do on the number of the 4 Star Generals

 

[Kilele9]

Kuna mtu hapo juu kadai huwezi kuwa na active four star generals kwa wakati mmoja kwa sababu eti italeta tatizo la ukosefu wa nidhamu!!

Huko Marekani jeshi lina ukosefu wa nidhamu kwa sababu majenerali wa nyota nne wapo 45??

Marekani cheo cha juu zaidi ni generali wa nyota tano

 

[Nyani Ngabu]

Hata huko Marekani idadi ya hao 4 Star General haiamuliwi na uwepo wa Federation bali ukubwa na division za jeshi.

Federation has nothing to do on the number of the 4 Star Generals

Exactly!

 

[Kichuguu]

Marekani cheo cha juu zaidi ni generali wa nyota tano

Siyo kweli, 5-star general kilikuwapo zamani kikitolewa wakati wa vita tu; hakipo tena sasa hivi, cheo cha mwisho ni 4-star general ingawa wakati wa vita kinaweza kurudishwa.

 

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Hapa kwa Mzee Kaguta Museven mbona wapo
Active Four Star Generals 9
Liutenant Generals 5
Major General 12
Brigadiers 56

Wako vitani mazingira yanaruhusu

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Marekani cheo cha juu zaidi ni generali wa nyota tano

Huyo anaitwa General of the Army (GA)
Afisa Generali wa Nyota Tano.
Rank ambayo ni sawa na Fleet Admiral na General of the Air Forces
Cheo hiki kilianzishwa mwaka 1886 baada ya American Civil War ili kutofautisha Mkuu wa Majeshi (Commanding General of the US Army) ambaye alikuwa na nyota nne kutoka kwa maafisa wengine ambao pia wana nyota nne.

It's all about seniority.

Ni rank inayokuja kwa sababu ya nafasi yako jeshini.
Asante kwa kuleta hili.

Kwa mada iliyopo mezani ni wazi kuwa inawezekana kuwa Majenerali wa Nyota nne zaidi ya mmoja katika Jeshi.
Na mifano ipo mingi hata kwa majirani zetu.

 

[Kichuguu]

Hata huko Marekani idadi ya hao 4 Star General haiamuliwi na uwepo wa Federation bali ukubwa na division za jeshi.

Federation has nothing to do on the number of the 4 Star Generals

Siyo kweli, 4-Start General kwa marekani hutolewa kwa merit siyo kwa sababu ya need. Sharti kubwa ni kuwa mtu ukiwa 3-star general, inabidi ufanye vizuri zaidi ndani ya miaka mitatu kumerit 4-stars, ukishindwa, basi unatakiwa ustaafu. Mifano ya walioshindwa kufikia 4-star ni pamoja na Lt General Ricard Sanchez kutokana na skendo za Iraki, Lt General Michael Flynn. Ukiwa 4-Star unaweza usiwe na division bali ukawa mmoja wa mabigwig wa pentagon kusubiri assignement. General David Patreaus alikuwa Pentagon tu hadi alipokabidhiwa command ya Iraqi

 

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Siyo kweli, 4-Start General kwa marekani hutolewa kwa merit siyo kwa sababu ya need. Sharti kubwa ni kuwa mtu ukiwa 3-star general, inabidi ufanye vizuri zaidi ndani ya miaka mitatu kumerit 4-stars, ukishindwa, basi unatakiwa ustaafu. Mifano ya walioshindwa kufikia 4-star ni pamoja na Lt General Ricard Sanchez kutokana na skendo za Iraki, Lt General Michael Flynn. Ukiwa 4-Star unaweza usiwe na division bali ukawa mmoja wa mabigwig wa pentagon kusubiri assignement. General David Patreaus alikuwa Pentagon tu hadi alipokabidhiwa command ya Iraqi

Issue ni utolewaji wa cheo au uwepo wa idadi ya cheo husika?

 

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Issue ni utolewaji wa cheo au uwepo wa idadi ya cheo husika?

Vyeo hutolewa kwa merit, ila kuna mechanism ya kucontrol visitolewe hovyo hovyo.

 

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Siyo kweli, 5-star general kilikuwapo zamani kikitolewa wakati wa vita tu; hakipo tena sasa hivi, cheo cha mwisho ni 4-star general ingawa wakati wa vita kinaweza kurudishwa.

Siyo kweli, cheo bado kipo ila hakijatolewa kwa mtu since 1981.

The rank of "General of the Army" has had two incarnations. The rank was introduced in 1866, the year after the American Civil War. It was reserved for the Commanding General of the United States Army, was a four-star rank, and was held by three different individuals from 1866 to 1888. The rank was revived as the modern five-star rank during World War II, and may be awarded to more than one serving officer at a time. It was held by five different individuals from 1944 to 1981.

 

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Hii imewekwa kudhibiti mapinduzi bado nchi yetu haijakuwa kubwa kisiasa

 

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Majenarali wa nyota 4 wako wangapi Tanzania?

Active service yupo mmoja tuu

 

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Ukistaafu ina maana cheo nacho ndio basI? Wakina Mwamunyange, Waitara, Mboma hawawezi kuitwo in case of emergency?

Unakuwa reserve force huna nguvu ndani ya jeshi. Ni raia wa kawaida

 

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Vyeo hutolewa kwa merit, ila kuna mechanism ya kucontrol visitolewe hovyo hovyo.

Uwongo, vyeo huamuliwa kwa nafasi ya mtu. Kuna nafasi ukichaguliwa lazima uwe na cheo fulani ili uweze kuitumikia hiyo nafasi.

Four-star grades go hand-in-hand with the positions of office they are linked to, so these ranks are temporary. Officers may only achieve four-star grade if they are appointed to positions of office that require and/or allow the officer to hold such a rank. Their rank expires with the expiration of their term of office, which is usually set by statute. Four-star officers are nominated for appointment by the president from any eligible officers holding a one-star grade or above, who also meets the other requirements for the position, under the advice and/or suggestion of their respective executive department secretary, service secretary, and if applicable the joint chiefs. The nominee must be confirmed via majority by the Senate before the appointee can take office and thus assume the rank.

 

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Hii imewekwa kudhibiti mapinduzi bado nchi yetu haijakuwa kubwa kisiasa

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